Rangers Banter Archive August 20 2014

20 Aug 2014 18:35:38
Am surprised at the poll result, ok it was fairly close, but I would say the subs against Falkirk definitely changed the game, Aird should have started but the substitutions added pace and direction to the team, seems Ally can't get any credit, got to call it as I see it.

Johns - I agree, and the subs also changed the game against hibs, we were under pressure in the 2nd half before temps was brought on, that changed the game in our favour,

JG

@1

Templeton did very well however you can't discount Hibs being reduced to 10 men that had a major bearing on the result

Johns, Try to look at the fact that the wrong team and tactics were wrong at the start.

Yes it wasn't the right team, I said Aird should have started, it just seems to me whenever ALLY comes into it, Ally's use of subs, instead of the subs making a change to the game people have to be negative about Ally all the time, who else but the manager makes the subs? that's what I reckon anyway, it's a case of it can't be right because Ally didit.

Johns

How did you feel about Ally's use of subs when he replaced Black with Hutton during the Hearts game?

@Stewie - Let me get this right, you are giving OUR team no credit for exploiting the fact that Hibs had a player sent off, prefering to say that was the cause? Lunacy. Give credit where it is due, and in this case Ally made the right changes to win the game. Maybe if you admit it you will see the facts instead of following the flock on here

I have to laugh at some of thecrap that comes on here lot of people slagging off mc coist for not playing aird last season they were all saying he shouldn't b in the team just shows them up for being blinkered and just pick up anyting to rubbish mc coist instead of being sooooo negative try being supportive what REAL fans do

With hibs having a player sent off it gave Templeton space which he thrives on.

21 Aug 2014 22:15:07
@6

Can you please read my post please. Look at the 1st 4 words. I think that's giving Templeton credit? If you want to have a go that's fine that's what's this forum is all about but please actually read the post before you have a go.

19 Aug 2014 22:40:10
although we played fairly well v clyde I couldn't help notice EVERY punt upfield from Simonsen and his defenders was won by Clyde players, no matter how tall or small they were!! this tells me 1) we are still not fit and 2) we seem to be scared to jump for it. Also we need to re-learn how to take and utilise corners and free licks. Are only one or two actually capable of place kicks?? seems only Black or McLeod are being used for that.
Once upon a time corners and free kicks were a bonus to us, now they just fizzle out without effect.
Basic skills are still not there and that is down to bad coaching I think

110% correct

Wee bill sorry but this kind of comment really p***s me off. All coaches are qualified to correct level and why criticise lack of set piece takers when everyone knows that just about every team has a specialist. You seem to talk a good game - do you have any coaching qualifications?
Even when the team wins 8-1 people moaning - it's embarrassing. Support the club
Have constructive positive posts disappeared. This site seems to have been taking over by keyboard bully's
Rant over

Got to agree wee bill, we must be one of the most uneffective teams when it comes to scoring from free kicks and corners. they usually miss the target, hit the wall, or never clear the first defender.!!

2) gers09 - sorry you feel that way- we agree on one thing - I am pi**ed off too!! but remember this IS a page about opinions, which, as long as the Ed approves it, we are all entitled to make our feelings known.
By the way, just WHO ARE our specialists?? most on dead ball situations couldn't hit a barn door at 3 feet!!

Maybe wee bill does not have coaching credentials but macoist and his cohorts do unfortunetly their abilty does not match the credentials

Just feel fans are living in the past, two years ago we almost lost everything. The fans support has enabled the manager to pull together a semi decent squad which he has been able to add to each year. He wins both leagues easily fulfilling the remit required yet people moan about every decision he makes.
I personally don't care about cups - I just want back to SPL -a capable board looking to stabilise the club and investment into the squad to challenge Celtic upon our return.
Sick of fans arguing with each other over the manager and whether he is playing the correct formation. Facts remains he IS doing what is required.
If he fails to deliver this season then fair enough but let's support him and the team.

Gers 09

The remit for a Rangers manager should be to improve the team and build a team that will be able to challenge at the top. Ally has done neither and continues to ignore young players in favour of old players. The standard of football hasn't improved at all and it seems that certain players like Black, Law, Moshni and Foster always get picked no matter how bad they play. As for the cups Ally's record is appalling and the club has lost valuable income due to some very short cup runs. Any fan who says they are bothered about the cups is talking nonsense. Good cup runs mean money and in our situation all money is welcome

Gers 09: Good post, this is what I have also said, he has done what was required and this season is the main one, it's all about this season before we make any decisions re the manager.

Gers09 macoist may or may not have adecent squad depending on opinion but it is painfully obvious that when players come under his control they go back the way there comes apoint where u cannot make excuses for him and as far as I see this time has come and gone

Gers09, what a pathetic post.

No rangers supporters are living in the past, we are all too aware of what has happened. I am a football fan in the true sense of the phrase, you obviously have some other sort of agenda if you are happy just to see us winning two leagues which were no better than Sunday league standard playing the sort of dire stuff we have witnessed. I want to see better quality football end of, if clubs with a fraction of the resources we have can do it so should we, winning is important but entertainment is equally as important or else we end up with 11,000 punters turning up to watch matches. The management team are paid way beyond what this level of football merits but you feel this is acceptable and we cannot criticise or complain, do me a favour.

20 Aug 2014 20:44:40
Well said Gers 09, it's the usual people on here posting the same crap about mcCoist, oh 8-1, mon we'll moan about the big punts up the park from the goalkeeper hahaha honestly man, geez piece lads, don't get me wrong, it's a laugh, so thanks for that! McCoist isn't a great manager, but don't dare come on here and slate the guy for winning 8-1, u must realise how silly u look and sound, c'mon lads, say your piece, that's great, that's what it's all about, but don't make a fool of urselfs in the process!

@10, couldn't agree more.

Gers09, you stated that we almost lost everything but you are happy that we are paying a manager £800,000 per year salary to come up with the worst displays I have had the misfortune to witness in 46 years as a Rangers supporter. £800,000 per annum to win two of the worst two league titles, possibly in World football. Yeah, hats off to ally 'cause that's an incredible achievement. If he was paid 10% of his salary he would still be overpaid.

Quick question guys your all for this winning but winning beautifully football philosophy but what you don't realize is that we don't have the same caliber of player now so unfortunately we have to play to our strength which is punt up the park. It maybe a little bit different this season hopefully but I will always take winning ugly to losing beautifully. let's just get behind the team no matter what because this is when they need us most. WATP

@13, can't agree with you. We had the perfect opportunity to, dare I say, coach some youth through the system so that, by now, we would have had a team made up with youth and a bit of experience playing together for a couple of seasons so that by now they would be playing football rather than the long ball dross currently on display. Along with attractive football we may have had some assets who could be sold for some much needed cash. But, alas, no, let's just buy some has beens with no sell on value and we all have our opinions about the dross on display.

@13

That's true we don't have the same type of player we had before however we weren't facing the same quality of players as we did before. To suggest that a punt up the park is our strength is ludicrous

Blue velvet
In an ideal world that would be the perfect platform to introduce the kids, however the team needed to guarantee promotion hence the hurry to sign up average SPL players who were all free transfers with the exception of Templeton. Do you think that we would have sold 37000 season tickets with the youth team playing? What would have happened to these numbers if rangers had been stuck in either division 2/3.
Only reason numbers have fallen this year is because of the board and lack of trust not in the manager.
Final point on this one - can't believe previous post re worst performances in 46 years - I have witnessed some terrible teams with better players than ally's has at his disposal- as I said previously let's see if he can do the job and get us back to the SPL and whilst on that journey we must support him and stop winging through rose tinted spectacles

@BlueVelvet - Try answering the question that is being asked - Would you prefer to see wonderful Barcelona-esque football and see us losing games or winning ugly? You know as well as I do that there would be screaming on here about not winning games within seconds of a final whistle being blown.

The manager's remit is to pick a team to win enough games to win the league. Nothing more. Ally is doing that. End of. Try getting off his back and offering the support that his role merits. That is, of course, if you really are Rangers supporters!

21 Aug 2014 13:36:48
People on hear saying managers remit is to improve the team that's a givin but please can someone tell me how that is possible when all he's been allowed to sign is the best of the worst i.e players that no one else wants, think the last player a fee was paid for is templeton.
p.s I exclude bell from best of the worst .
r.f

@16 Gers 09, can't see anywhere that I, or anyone else for that matter, suggested playing the youth team but any coaches with ability to do just that should have been able to introduce some of the youths into the team to have a blend of youth and experience. We were in the bottom two tiers of Scottish football remember, hardly La Liga.
Secondly, whether you believe that this is the worst football I have seen in 46 years as a Rangers supporter or not is of no concern to me whatsoever.

A business colleague of mine is a long time Hearts supporter and he was at the Hearts game and said he was "Shocked" when he saw Rangers play. lethargic, unfit, poor quality football, worst he has seen Rangers play, etc. Perhaps we're both wrong!

N13 snowbaw when we had a higher calibre of player our opposition were of higher quality so now our players are not as good as 9iar team but we have just won two leagues of part time players the money we pay our players should gareentee us high scoring victories every week but this has not been the case remember the leagues we won use guys that work 9to5 jobs because they ain't good enough to be profesional players