Rangers Banter Archive December 20 2011

20 Dec 2011 21:04:46
Ed001 I know that you will be gutted to the out come of this Luis Suarez has been banned for eight matches and fined £40,000 by the Football Association for racially abusing Patrice Evra. But a hypothetical question what do you think would happen if it was a supporter that racially abused Evra?
FF81 {Ed001's Note - tough one, especially as the word used by Suarez is a common term in the Spanish speaking word and is not considered offensive. I doubt anything would be done, after all Evra has admitted foul and abusive language towards Suarez preceding it and yet has yet to receive any charge. I am struggling with this, I just can't imagine the FA caring about it, certainly not enough to stick one of Fergie's mates on the panel to ensure 'justice' is done! I think the Terry verdict will show us what kind of attitude the FA really have towards racism.}

Totally agree with you Ed. What Terry was supposed to have said to A Ferdinand well I can't repeat because I would get the police at my door compared to what Suarez is an absolute joke. Can I ask the question again? What John Terry said to A Ferdinand, what would happen if it was a supporter saying the same thing and the police caught them?
FF81 {Ed001's Note - that would clearly be an arrest and prosecution. I certainly wouldn't expect them to just walk away scott free. Isn't Terry under investigation by the police at the moment? If not, then I have to wonder why Terry's case has yet to be heard. What do you think would happen?}

I would be in the police cell right now waiting to go infront of the judge tomorrow if I allegedly said what Terry had said. Suarez will win his appeal surely?
FF81

What was it he said to evra anyway? {Ed001's Note - he said the word negrito, Spanish for little black man and is the nickname used by Evra's team mates for him. Whereas Evra has admitted using the term sudaca, in a nasty way, which is a racial slur used by Spanish speakers to refer to those of South American origin. I am not so sure I understand the FA's reasoning in this case at all. Suarez was charged and found guilty of misconduct for what he said, while Evra, who has admitted a racial slur, is not even charged. No one at Liverpool would have complained if Evra faced a charge and received a punishment (as he has admitted guilt there is little need to discuss anything other than what punishment he should receive) on a similar level.}

20 Dec 2011 21:23:51
To the people saying ht Mark Guidi and Daryl King were saying on clyde 1 tonight that rangers will strike a deal with hmrc between 10-15 million, they did not say say this, they were saying that this is one of many possible outcomes but did say that the pendulem is most likely towards a rangers victory in the case due to the fact that if rangers go into admin then hmrc dont get a penny. I may only be a 16 year old poster, and have posted quite a few times, but have a vast knowledge for the game and the club i love and dont want to get peoples hopes up or read lies that tarnish the clubs name!


MainStandBear!

Honestly hmrc have more power than anyone. They will tell rangers straight you dodged tax aye it's our mistake but you still owe us X million. Rangers play the admin card then hmrc will demand they sell players to make the bill. Hmrc WILL get something don't believe this crap of they won't get a penny. Don't believe me ask any accountant about hmrc. 

As for a deal to be done. As above hmrc know everything about everyone from your last pay to the last penny in your account. They will see & judge how much & when rangers will pay it up they have access to all their accounts & will see what rangers & whyte have money wise. Then they can demand it all in one or over X payments then you will see the changes & knife in rangers fans gets stuck in. 

Lenny

Dont listen to any more talk of deals!hmrc are pissed at rangers for continuing to spend while they knew this problem was coming.king,guidi et al swallowed murrays story about it all being ok.my mate was forced to sell his house for an o/due vat bill of 40k on a t/over of 150k! its bleak bears

Your mate isnt rangers....i think a deal will be struck at some point, rangers are to big a name in world football to just dissapear of the map! Just to confirm, is the case rescheduled for januray, i know it has been changed but its not been talked about as much and i cant remember when its due lol

MainStandBear!

The facts remain that no one,including the media have a clue how the case will end up,rangers fans where quick enough to claim the media had an agenda against rangers with talk of administration and a points deduction,why are you quick enough to believe the media with this story?even if rangers pay a small settlement to hmrc it still means they are guilty of non payment or avoidance of tax,rangers fans who pay their taxes should be ashamed of what their club has done and is still trying to avoid,they should pay back what is owed,the taxpayer does...why dont rangers?

Rangers will need to pay total tax bill. guidi and king are well known murrray puppets.

I'm a leicester fan and bought up in pompey, both teams went into admin and payed 10p in the pound to taxman, using the excuse to offload high earners whilst keeping thier best young players. People that lost out were the contractors etc they owed money to

20 Dec 2011 20:00:06
team for st mirren
---------------mcgregor----------------
whittaker-----goian----boca-----papac---

aluko-------mculloch--davis-----wallace-

-----------lafferty-----jelavic-----------
subs:alexander
wylde
mckay
bartley
bedoya
4 nil us.
*ksd*

Wheres Edu? I doubt he will be out the team and would be on the bench at least

Why disagree its the best team available at weekend or do you want to stick a cb in the midfielder again, or play 4-4-1-1 with bedoya? dream on jela n laffs wit aluko and wallace getting in behind fact is ally wants to play bartley but end of day goianegra r to solid to b split up he's a cb no use in the midfield play players to their strenght and the team will kick on, at least wallace can cross a ball unlike wylde..*ksd*

What do you mean where's edu? the fans have been screaming including you to get him dropped and now you dont see him your upset? make your mind up

It's not ally's actual line up m8 just what id like to see us go with, and i don't think i'll be far from the right line-up, fo yeh edu will prob be on bench!*ksd*

Team to go with, but I reckon Ally will have Edu for McCulloch with him on the bench and no matter what he will have Broadfoot on the bench also. Blue4ever

20 Dec 2011 19:34:06
Was listening to CLYDE 1 the night and I must say that maybe the mankies are getting harsher treatment from the scottish media....One of there Devout followers came on and said and very passionately "The Daily Record had a picture of ally and naismith on one side and lennon and forrest on the other and underneath it had Naisy and Coisty(pally names apparently) while on the other pic it only stated Lennon and Forrest" what about that ay we really do have the media in our back pocket lololol....

Tam-Sir 1873 Is a Qualified Recovery Driver lololol

20 Dec 2011 19:13:06
Farid El Alagui looks to me like a good shout in January. If he is scoring goals in a young mediocre Falkirk side. He could turn in to be a good buy as he would get the service needed to score goals here. I reckon he would be a good option to have as we pretty lacking in the striking department. He also looks like he gives a 100% for the team.

Rory

That young mediocre side beat us and play some fantastic football average age is 19, ive seen them play a few times and would love a couple of there players at ibrox

20 Dec 2011 17:05:08
Rangers to rediscover form on the 28th,all talk from Celtic,complacency will be their undoing.The Celtic defence not great,and will be got at,big shock in store,Gers will be pumped up for it.Look forward to great game and great result.Always a Ranger.

And can you confirm where the goals are going to come from in this so called pump fest as you lot are struggling for goals. Or is it going to be another game of suspect penalties for you lot.

Ian

Grow up ian short memory werent you lot the one's that got someone sacked last year and also complained about every decision that didnt go your way its football

Wullie

Whitts with a cheeky opener, Edu with a classy second and up pops late sub ness with a third to make it all shiney.

3-0 the teddies

Dream on no name you lot have no chance of scoring 3 against us unless Golum gives you 3 penalties. After all he has been known to give you lot soft penalties.

Ian

20 Dec 2011 16:39:14
Why do people resent Boyd for seeing out his contract then leaving? The guy honoured the contract he was given and tried england like many before him. Do these people resent every player that's ever left rangers? They say he did it for the money but didn't most players who left Rangers?

He had the chance to go to birmingham and get us 4 million but thought he was too good for them thought he was more top 4 class. now hes top 4 all right in the top 4 fattest footballers in britain.

Whos the other 3? Commons is defo one, cmon bears lets have the pie awards ;) CheltBlue

20 Dec 2011 16:01:30
anyone else think mccoist has lost trust in david healy after he missed that sitter that put rangers out of europe?

he has hardly played since or has he been injured?

He hardly played before then awell !

It was ally that put us out if europe, his tactics were shocking.

Rablam

Agree with that,we lost to 2 of the worst teams i've ever saw play at Ibrox.He played the same tactics on saturday again so negative!

Europe is well behind us, just get behind the team, we are not superstars.

Europe is not behind us, if we got into champions league there would be no 10 million black hole no talk about jelavic getting sold.

Rablam

20 Dec 2011 15:34:25
I see a Government committee are investigating HMRC for doing "deals" with big businesses. Sorry bears looks like any hope you had of doing a deal with HMRC over your tax problems just disappeared.
hail hail CFC 1967

Rangers aren't exactly goldman sax so 'big businesses' doesn't include rangers in this context but i agree the extra attention does mean there is less chance of a deal being struck

RFCJ

Absolutely nothing to concern Rangers our case will be decided in due course.By the way i see your alias has changed yet again keep it up and you will certainly succeed in being number 1 ... add name you know he she is.Shaun H

20 Dec 2011 12:01:59
Lets start the build up now lads, Old Firm game next week going to be a tough one. I think Celtic fans are a bit over confident on this one but if we dont improve we could lose by a few. I'm sure Ally will have the lads fired up. I'm going for a 1 each draw.

BB1

I am never confident when Celtic face Rangers you just dont know what way the game will go. On current form you would say Celtic but for me it is who comes out with the hunger to win on the day.

Ian

I would take a draw. Should be a good game

Rangers v St Mirren. That's the most important game. We will deal with the Celtic game when it comes.

Agree that the St Mirren game is more important. Secure the points against the Saints, and we make sure we are top going into the new year. I'll take any result ( win, or draw ) other than watching us stand and let the rabble roll us over like wee dugs ! AndyPandy63

20 Dec 2011 10:18:14
I would have Boyd bk in a heartbeat!! Always guarantees u 25-30 a season at Rangers. We would have to pay 3-4m to get any1 close to that. Jelavic who is alot better than kris can ever dream about but being cant even guarantee 25. So bring Boydy home!! We should start a campaign!!

Boyd was alright in good teams this rangers team huff and puff all day dont know if he,s the right type in this poor side,could see the fans getting on his back as he stand,s with his hands on his hips waiting for someone else to lay a goal on for him

The problem we have just now is getting the ball into the areas where Boyd is most effective, so he would be rendered useless until we start to deliver quality balls into the box. At the minute, big Jela is forced to do too much work outside the box and there is no-one feeding off any knock downs, or passes from him. We need to play with two up front Ally !! AndyPandy63

20 Dec 2011 09:36:37
A wee light hearted topic bears...

1# Best Goal of 2011
Jelavic against Aberdeen at Pitoddrie

2# Best player of 2011
Naisy, particuarly this season

3# Best Young Player
James Forrest, cracking wee player

4# Biggest shock of 2011
Jim Jeffries sacking

5# Biggest fail of 2011
Samaras penalty miss at Ibrox

6# Game of 2011
Rangers 2 Celtic 2 (Scottish Cup game at Ibrox)

7# Biggest laugh of 2011
Romanov's valuation of Hearts....50 million!!!

8# Highlight of 2011
Has to be final game of the season against Killie. 3 nil up in no time and romping to 3IAR, fitting end to the great Walter Smith's time with us..

J1985

1# Best Goal of 2011
Hoopers on the 28th December

2# Best player of 2011
Anthony Stokes

3# Best Young Player
James Forrest

4# Biggest shock of 2011
Davie Weir still leeching off rangers

5# Biggest fail of 2011
McCoists negative tactics in every game

6# Games of 2011
Rangers european run

7# Biggest laugh of 2011
lafferty

8# Highlight of 2011
kris boyd failing all around england and europe.

Your lack of humour is a little offensive......i'll be on the phone to QC Paul McBride first thing tomorrow. infact, anyone fancy staging a protest in relation to this nuggets post?? wait a minute lets bring this site to a near standstill cause i think all the ed's are part of an establishment against us!! "we are all ne.....". wait got carried away there.

20 Dec 2011 00:51:53
Has ally finally seen the light by hooking edu at half time on sat? I was shocked when 1 of my mates told me edu has only missed 1 game in over 40 games, what has he done to deserve that kind of run in the team? Mckay, fleck, healy have 1 bad game and their out the team again.

Rablam

I think you will find that Fleck has had all bad games hence he is not getting played as he is junk.

As for the others they have not been given a chance, McKay and Healy, but I think Healy is on to plumbs.

GB