Rangers Banter Archive May 20 2013

20 May 2013 22:00:25
All these posts about Ally getting his targets and building a squad for the future are complete nonsense he will sign whoever will come and pay them want they want to keep his job, unless he learns some tactics over the summer it won't matter who he signs, he was playing 1 up front at home in division 3 ffs, it will be interesting to see how many STs are sold since a growing number of gers are unhappy and will not renew with McCoist in charge, if he was really a Rangers man he would of walked long before supporters stopped going because of him, if he was anyone else he would have booed out of Ibrox 18 months ago when it became obvious that he is out of his depth, and yet 2 dreadful seasons later we are still talking about giving him another season to prove himself! He has proved himself he is crap let's get rid of him before he wastes anymore money.

Yeah yeah not a ger, etc etc. the truth is I have been a supporter for nearly 40 years and a ST holder for 20 years, 4 of us travel up from near London and will NOT renew while he is at Rangers.

21 May 2013 02:27:20
Cannot believe the number of non Rangers supporters and kid on Rangers supporters on this board whinging about our comments on the Hearts situation. It is only the start as a number of other clubs will follow who already are on the brink. These are the same supporters who under the guise of sporting integrity chose to vote Rangers out of the SPL and hit with every other punishment they could think of. Well you had the chance to think about the consequences of your actions before you orchestrated a campaign to destroy Rangers. You reap what you sow, you got what you wished for and are now left with a broken competition which will see other clubs follow Hearts next season into administration.

Ozzie Al

Another depressing post, you have been a fan for forty years but a supporter for 20years meaning you took a season ticket during the glory years so I am sure you and your 4 mates won't be missed next season as real rangers supporters stick by our team in good and bad times and people like you only want to know good times so good riddance you won't be missed. BT

@1: you and your like were tellling us all last summer that loads of clubs would be in administration by Christmas. So far it's been one with Hearts to follow. If it makes you feel better thinking there are loads to follow then keep dreaming. In addition, it might make more sense to worry about the situation at your own club instead of Hearts and the rest; or for that matter, accusing posters on here of not being genuine Rangers fans - that's the realm of the paranoid.

@1/ How you can comment on any poster on here is amazing. You were singing the praises of Green when it was clear he was a chancer. Rangers fans who question everything will be the ones who save the club. People like you will be the ones who kill it.

Ozzie Al, glad to see you finally admit your club was destroyed.
As usual your post contains no facts and just your narrow opinion.
Could you explain how Rangers not being in the SPL is responsible for a Russian bank filing for insolvency?
I do have to congratulate you on the mantra count in your post though.
1) ". other clubs will follow. "
2) ". the guise of sporting integrity. "
3)". vote Rangers out of the SPL. "
4)". hit with every punishment they could think of. "
5)". consequence of your actions. "
6)". reap what you sow. "
7)". got what you wished for. "
8)". broken competition. "
Jeez, that's nearly the whole post, however, you missed out two to get you to an even ten.
"Kick us when we are down"
and
"Illgal punishment"
Your report card. "Could do better. "
Al

@2. I am doing what I feel is best for Rangers, if someone like you takes my ST so be it, but hopefully the majority of REAL Rangers supporters and not the Super Ally fan club will prevail. We are a football club whose football is dire and a company in complete disarray, I will not fund this mixture of corruption and incompetence any more. Rangers deserve better!

Thanks Al for re emphasising the points in my post and for filling in the bits I missed. Good to also see you have finally outed yourself instead of pretending to be a Gers man. Lol

How exactly have hearts problems got anything to do with rangers going bankrupt? The foreign banking company that owned them has gone under. They also may find a buyer before liquidation, thereby avoiding having to start again as a new club. Let's try sticking to the facts. This forum is full of people sick of lies.

@3. It's this season we will see more clubs go to the wall. Last season was cushioned by the previous years revenue. I'm sorry but Scottish football is in a dangerous position. SPL chairmens minds said get Rangers out but in their hearts they knew the reallity of that decision. I'm a Rangers fan but it was the correct decision as the rules had to be adhered to. There really was no other way or we would be in an even worse position today. My only hope is that Rangers can climb the league quickly, rid ourselves of the board parasites and run at break even.

@7, I have never pretended to be a gers man and if you think any of my posts give that impression then more fool you.
You must have missed the one a while back when I said that I don't care what happened to your club or the others I signed off as Al (ly must stay).
Al

20 May 2013 19:28:08
So that's another day finished. How long does it take to complete a medical?
Last week a guy called Nicky was signing that evening.
All bolloc*s.
The mainstream media in Scotland appears to conspire with the board to dupe, mislead and manipulate fans.

Wee bit more difficult since Jim Traynor joined the Ibrox franchise. succulent lamb anyone??

20 May 2013 16:33:04
Hearts sister company listed as insolvent on Lithuanian government website on Thursday, but buffoons at SPL can find no evidence of this. What? Then I though didn't I see Lennon on tv over the weekend expressing concern if they were demoted and suddenly it all fits. what celtic want celtic gets. The SPL have to have some sort of competition even if its not for first spot.

Blueice

OP: not paranoid much, are you? lol

Hearts operating company pass the tests and have not experienced an insolvency event.
Talk about wishing others ill will. Also paranoid and dragging Celtic into it and Lennon is childish.

@no 1. the phrase sporting integrity was used in football when celtic refused to extend the season because they were flying out to tour japan the next day, and we all know that didn't happen, so no, not paranoid. it seems to be celtic and a couple of others are calling the shots. i'm disgusted by the decision of the spl. they couldn't afford to lose the edinburgh derby. sporting integrity, but only when it suits them. dave & hugh

1)another coincidence then?

Blueice

Hearts will start in the SPL without doubt. As time goes on and the evidence is clear they will be deducted points. As no football rule was broken in season 12/13 then they could not be penalised. Scottish football authorities were cacing it todsy.

20 May 2013 20:14:16
@3: why are you disgusted? Hearts haven't gone into administration yet so why should there be a points deduction?

I totally disagree with the OP and #3 point. Hearts parent company has serious problems there is no doubt but have they actually entered administration. yes or no? I firmly believe that they will enter an insolvency event in the coming weeks and todays decision will have to be reviewed however as administration will be in mid-season different league rules apply to a year past in Feb when gers were docked 10 points. Its ridiculous to claim Celtic are behind today's decision paranoid running wild. wait till the rumours surrounding the finances at Ibrox are confirmed will that be Celtics fault as well?

Tynecastle calling. for God 's sake stop whingeing about others and get real
Green, Ally, Walter, Sandy J all bleating constantly . the majority of your support accepted that you needed to take your punishment so get on with it and gie us aw peace Mr. Green has taken you all for a ride on the Ghost Train, Whitey still running the waltzers around boardroom and Ally in control of the helter-skelter thru the 3rd Division, James Traynor looking after the dodge-ems, Walter in the Hall of Mirrors.
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH, regain the respect of other Clubs and their supporters get on with re-building quietly. stop looking to blame others constantly, look to the future and let your team's football do the talking.
Scottish Football needs everyone to work together to move forward, loads of financial issues across the game need sorted. best let the other Clubs sort their businesses and
waken up to the issues on your own backyard and behave like good neighbors rather than try to make
out others should suffer.
In every aspect of life trust and respect have to be earned, accept your medicine stop spitting out your dummies and climb back to a level that offers genuine fans a platform to showboat, reflecting your aspirations in a sportsmanlike fashion.

Guess we should just accept Green and Whyte linked, hand back the SFA license and walk away then. Same mentality of OP to Hearts.

N8 the spl were meant to look at the hearts sittuation on the 13th of may if they had done so they would have seen the hearts bachers ie bankers from lithiania were insolvent thus hearts would have been put in addminestration but for reasons known only to the spl the date was put back to 20th WHY TMWNN

@8 great post mate! Shame the shame are going to give it a dam good ignoring though!

@10 maybe for the same reason your transfer ban wasn't put in place immediately and allowed to start after the transfer window shutting! Your argument for unfair treatment by the footballing authorities is flawed with every little thing you want to bicker about!
So best shut it and move on!

21 May 2013 00:51:23
#8. I don't recall Rangers football club saying a word? can't you differentiate between a major employee and a guy on a fans forum? don't you understand? tell us where Rangers FC said a word? go On? silly person, Tommyblue

Romanov has appealed the decision and as such the SPL had no option but to come to the decision that they reached.

@8 If you had exercised the same judgement & advice yourself when voting the rangers out of the SPL and placing upon them every other possible punishment in the book and outwith the book. We would not be discussing the Hearts and other teams financial issues at the moment. The SPL clubs and there supporters are only now beginning to realize the damage there hate campaign against Rangers has done to there own teams. So take your own advice and move on before you end up looking more stupid than you already appear to be.

@12 if I remember correctly there was no rule in the sfa rule book which allowed a transfer ban for our particular misdemeanour. Fact is the meeting was postponed to keep hearts up. Anyone who believes otherwise is living in a non-corrupt bubble

@16: Fact is this from an earlier post:

"Hearts made it to the end of the season by thier supporters raising £1.5m to fund the club, Heart of Midothian PLC are meeting their liabilities and although the "parent company" have applied for administration this has not yet been granted. The courts in Lithuania could decide that Romanov is chancing it and turn the application down, unlikey as this may sound. The SPL made the correct decision under these circunstances. "

Feel free to find some proper evidence to refute this.

I was led to believe last summer by supporters of one team, which no longer exists, that the 'club' and the 'company' were two different entities. Does this not still hold?

20 May 2013 15:04:47
This dirty board war will be resolved by the majority shareholders soon.
I expect MM to go. I expect WS and JT to go and other NEDs.
I expect the curiously silent McCoist, since his I want this club cleansed speach a few weeks ago, to walk the plank.
You can't sail with the pirates if you want to cleanse the dirty rascals.
I expect Stuart McCall to replace McCoist rally the support and sell loads of tickets for next season.

McColl may be a legend but he is not stupid.
If the rangers people walk he will say no.

McColl would snatch Ally's package in a heartbeat. Who wouldn't? A million a year no problem.
Ally should realise he divides the support not unite it. He should step down due to this to let the fans unite 100% behind a new guy. The club needs the fans 100% behind a new manager.

Can we please leave 'Ally's package' out of this. Some things should just be kept private.

The most important thing is to know who your enemy is.
And it isn't McCoist.
We need McCoist, Smith and Murray as a bulwark against the rest of them.

Op did you see much the same published in the daily record today in the hotline tmwnn

20 May 2013 10:36:10
To the sick individual who
had a go at Scott brown
about his SIS dying with
cancer. you are one SICK
PERSON and how dare you
associate yourself with the
GLASGOW RANGERS you are
nothing a low life. to Scott
apologies from all decent
Rangers fans. to fiona R. I. P
billy h

100 per cent agree not associated with all decent rangers supporters piss off

Whole heartedly agree - it is only that think that way.
The loss of a sibling at ANY age is too painful to imagine and Scott Brown deserves credit for being able to continue in a very public role in life.

wee Bill

I wasn't aware of this before reading it on here, but if it did happen it's disgusting and whoever said it should be named and shamed. P. O. B.

Some folk are just too thick to even think about the impact their words have on people.
Unfortunately our society seems to be full of people who find trolling/bullying a entertaining pastime. About time something was done about it.
I feel the same about those who aim death threats etc at Lennon and his family. No place in society for this kind of disgusting behaviour.
I can only hope these people never have to face a family tragedy themselves

Baybear

Thank you bears

No Gers supporter with any brain or respect would comer out with this s. e
Deepest sympathy to brown and all his family

Cheers bears I too lost my sister 23years ago the pain is still there there are some sick individuals out there mm

True human beings would never make comments like this reguardless who they claim to supporter real supporters of all clubs united when tragedy strikes in the football world these persons should be ignored they don't sully a club or its fans name they only shame themselves
thommyj

All excellent post's, it make's my heart hope all this bigotry from the two side's, is finally beaten. Well done the decent Rangers supporters
Tam

Great to see the real Rangers supporters agree on this this just shows the sickness of some people.
Bobby

Well said Fiona. I can't think of a better example of a sh*tebag coward than someone hiding behind a twitter tag and saying things like that c*nt said about Browns sister.

Its easy to say to yourself that for someone to say something like that they must be damaged in the head, but to be honest some people are just lower than a snakes belly, nasty to the core and there's just no excuse for them.

Thanks for this guys. Shows some of you are decent folk, I dare say the vast majority. I did come on to ask how you all felt about HEARTS staying in SPL. Strange one but makes sense.

We'll see you maybe in a cup sometime soon.

bhoyo

20 May 2013 08:47:42
Read a few comments about potential signings on; plenty of which have irritated me. Regardless of the fact that we won't be signing nearly any of them there are some on here that simply won't accept moving forward. All the talk of players such as Boyd, Novo, Miller even Ferguson are so narrow minded. Even more narrow minded is the stick given to players such as Danny Wilson and our current Ross Perry. Do folk on here even watch football? Wilson was a great prospect for us, so much so that a big club in the EPL paid a decent sum for him. Do you think they did that with no research? Just because it didn't work out for him doesn't mean he's 5h1te. It just means he moved too early and couldn't oust experienced internationals in one of the best leagues in world football. When he played for us he got his chance and held his own, even being a standout in a few games. I'd take him back before any 30+ former players. as for Perry, give the boy a break. He's had to play under extremely difficult circumstances. Cutting his teeth in the first team beside a calamitous Brazilian and a hopeless Greek; neither of which he could communicate with. Had he had a Davie Weir coaching him through the game he might have been able to grow in confidence instead of feeling the pressure of 48,000 bears booing.

Spot on Baybear regarding Wilson and Perry. I would also like an experienced central defender able to dominate and communicate. This together with a seasoned mid-fielder to control the game and, in my opinion, we are half way there.
Then clear the failures and replace with what we can afford and we will be heading in the right direction.
Ally then needs to remove his negative head and play the way he liked to play---- in the opponent's half and on the deck.
billyb

Couldn't agree more Billy.
As many will testify I've been pretty critical of Ally and the coaching team on here. That said, I am under no illusions that Ally will be at the helm next season. With that accepted I can only hope he grows a pair and shows faith in allowing his team to play attacking football. I really feel that despite the obvious constraints we played into the hands of our Div 3 competitors by adopting such a negative and subsequently nervous attitude. Very quickly it became obvious to teams that we were there for the taking and playing within ourselves. That should never happen to Rangers, especially at Ibrox in Div 3. That coupled with the understandable frustrations of fans seems to have all but crippled some of our players at times and given the opposition a boost. It's for these reasons that I don't think we've seen the best out of our young players but the more experienced heads should have been more than capable of guiding them. I initially felt that when the fans boo they were booing the tactics and maybe the more experienced players as they should be capable of better. After reading some comments on here I'm not so sure.

Baybear

Baybear you are consistently the voice of reason and common sense on here. I cannot understand this clamour to bring the badge kissers back on big salaries to play in the lower leagues. If the likes of Miller, Novo, Daly etc are signed then it will be one or a combination of the following reasons:

1) To try and relive past glories rather than looking at the reality
2) To sell season tickets
3) To cover Ally's total lack of ability as a manager
4) The people running the club (haha) have no experience in football

By the time Rangers can return to the SPL Daly will be well into his 30's and the other 2 retired.