Rangers Banter Archive December 21 2011

 

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21 Dec 2011 22:53:58
I think anybody is getting well ahead of them selfs thinking anything other than the old enclosures will be changed. U stay in the club deck bro

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21 Dec 2011 22:48:32
can anyone cheer me up with news that a team is stupid enough to be interested in Twhittaker coz the guy is a joke. forget kris boyd rangers need midfielders/wingers that can create chances not a lazy player like boyd. we need new midfield or a new mangement team to get the midfield playing better. SCARED OF PLAYING AT IBROX what a joke

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Debate about Boyd if you wish, but he WILL be back January, Ally will be willing to take a punt since his wages will be minimal.

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21 Dec 2011 21:16:56
With standing areas due to return to the scottish game, which probably the majority of people welcome, were would you bears like to see them introduced at ibrox, for me i would like a good sized one going ffrom the govan front all the way round to the copland front, i would definetly move my season ticket to a standing area no problem!

MainStandBear!

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I think at best mate for the moment, east or west enclosure is about the limit.

Oranjeboom

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Ive heard that being said, i just want the crowds and atmospheres to be at there best again! something to look forward to

MainStandBear!

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21 Dec 2011 17:31:16
stop bumming up jelavic,he,s the same standard as hooper and they aint, no larsson...jelas worth a pund o jelly babies and a single fash......

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Jela is worth three times as much as fatty hooper,, it would be better if jela stayed until summer at least then have a great euro '12 with croatia and we will get even more,, how will hooper get on in the euros,, oh aye the fat man not going,,, WATP
andygers74

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Great euros my a..e he doesn't even get a starting place for Croatia

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Hooper vs jelavic

Hooper cost 2.4m jelavic 4m

Appearance/ goals: 44/31  41/28

Awards: Scottish cup Scottish cup/league cup

Gary hooper best strike rate in Britan & 4th in Europe. 

Jelavic..... Erm he's a '12m player' 

Hooper cost less than jelavic, jelavic has 2 medals hooper has one. Hooper is up there with ronaldo,messi & di Natalie last season for the best strike rate in Europe jelavic is not.

Check the facts all true.

Lenny :)

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If your stats are true then you must be getting worried about him leaving? Money talks after all? CheltBlue

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Yeah money talks more so from down south. My main point is jelavic is a good player I do rate him highly & think he will go far if he can produce the goals in England but I'm just showing facts & letting rangers fans know that hooper is better than him ? Also hooper wants a new deal ! He's more than happy at Celtic like izzy & kayal by signing new deals. Don't see jelavic wanting to pen a deal... Well not with rangers anyway

Lenny

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TBH Id like Hooper in my team. Goal against us was superb. Still prefer Jela though. Hes been too isolated last few games. The two together would be very good. IMO CheltBlue

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Up there with ronaldo and messi !!!!! cant stop smilling, i no you talking about the stats but come on lenny if thats the case larson was pish compared to boyd and we all no thats not true. hooper's name in the same sentence as those football god's is quality, maybe thats why celtic got that 20 plus million for him offer for him :o) badboybob

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That is the worse post I've seen fae you Lenny. Why bring those stats up? Pooperman has played 3 games mare than Jelavic. If you look it up Jelavic has mate assists 37 to poopermans 8. So Jelavic is the better all round player as for pooperman he is just poor mans Boyd. What did you post pooperman is up their with Messi and Ronaldo lmao haha. Nice one.
Ps

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Lenny, if stats are all that matter, gers are the most succesful club in the world, up and above barca, real, united etc. Use common sense, just because he scores more doesn't mean he is better ? Or is Boyd better than Larsson ?

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The Larrson/Boyd comparison is rubbish...Jelavic's not in Larrson's league & Hooper's a lot better than Boyd !

What if Croatia bomb in the Euro's ?

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Gary Hooper is a small Kris Boyd FACT

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I'm no way saying jelly & hooper are the same class ad them lol. Aye that's right rangers are the most successful club league wise but I said before give anyone from the top 6 in the EPL/Spanish/German league etc 57 years in the spl & they would beat it lol. But all the same if I was a gers fan I would still be proud.

Anyway, was just bring a point up about strike rate not overall performance. Google it? If it was overall performance I don't think anyone from the spl would be in the top 1000. Also just pointing out jelavic is a good player but he's not pele, hooper is just as good if not better,cost less scored more goals (3 games played more I know) & up there with messi etc for STRIKE RATE nothing else. Google the facts on it I could be wrong on something

Lenny

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Everyone is talking about jelavic because what he does not just his goals.. jelavic creates goals, some of the stuff he does in a match weve not seen in years! on saturday there it looked like jelavic was the only one that could set up and score ! not just the scoring but the goals he scores, hooper score an overhead kick winner or a few free-kicks.. hoopers gd but to imply hes better than jela man is poor !!
FauldsRFC

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Lenny you havent mentioned assists

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Someone above did. Was just a intresting post in my eyes. Anyway hopper wants a new deal which is good for us. Why has jelavic not asked for one ?

Lenny

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Hooper has 4 old firm goals.. Jelavic only has 1 :-o

Craig

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Whose got most international caps?

Jela? Thought so.

International class striker & a fat, overrated, poacher.

No contest.

Steven.

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The last post is just a fail jelavic wouldnt get near the england team and hooper aint fat and im a fellow bear that hates the nonsense that sum of our fans spout

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He has at least 2 against celtic, eh league cup final :-) and the header at start of season

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As Jelavic plays for a weaker nation of course he'll have more caps. If he was English he wouldn't get selected for squads either.. hypothetical i know but it's a fair point

Craig

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Eh i was talking about jst old firm domestic goals.. nah my mistake lol forgot about that l/cup final goal

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Jelavic has scored umpteen penalties which boosts his goals scored tally

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Let's see...... Larsson leaves Celtic for Barcelona and wins a Spanish league and Champions League medals.This clown Boyd leaves Rangers and can't make it in the championship or Turkey were he played 27 minutes.And to think some people said he was as good as Larsson GIVE ME A BREAK!.This should end the debate of who is a better player once and for all.

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Boyd is still aplayer larson is or is nearly retired! deal with the present not the past,

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Lenny,

You say Hooper has scored 31 in 44 games and Jelavic 28 in 41 games yet Hooper has a better ratio?

Can't you count LMAO? Both ratios are EXACTLY the same.

Jelavic had a better strike rate than Hooper last season. It is only according to YOU that Hooper's strike ratio was the best in Britain and Europe.......it's not FACTS!!!!!!

TonyTheGer

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Airdrie's ryan donnelly has the best strike rate in britain - 22 in 22

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N, Hooper had the best strike rate of any player in Britain, scoring 20 goals in 26 games with a strike rate of 0.77 goals per game. This was also the fourth best strike rate in Europe, behind Cristiano Ronaldo, Lionel Messi and Antonio Di Natale.[72]

As quoted from wikipedia. Also was in the sun.

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En.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Hooper

Go to club career,Celtic last paragraph, was also in the scottish sun about 6 weeks ago.

Lenny

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Is that the main source here Lenny....Wikipedia? A website that EVERYONE can edit to suit their needs LMAO!!

Gary Hooper played far more than 26 games for Celtic last season.

You compared Hooper and Jelavic's goal scoring record claiming Hoopers is better, I prove you wrong by stating the obvious that both are exactly the same and now you go onto ratios LMAO.

Jelavic is a better all round striker than Hooper, Lenny!

Deal with it!

TonyTheGer

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Tony tony tony don't be so bitter, I'm talking about last season. It was in THE SCOTTISH SUN you just can't face the fact that jelavic is a average player at best

Deal with it before whyte does

Lenny

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Guys this is a non argument! hooper is a quality striker as is jelavic too many bitter wee people on here both would and should be rated the same !

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21 Dec 2011 17:02:39
I hope the wee ned who abused and threw stones at Kyle Lafferty gets the book thrown at him,and any neds who are accused of doing the same to Celtic footballers,they aint hard or smart,they are an embarressment to both clubs,so grow up and behave,because prison is not nice for little neds.

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21 Dec 2011 16:43:52
hows this for a fat footballer 11

GK Boruc
RB Dean Windass
CD Razor Ruddock
CD steve bruce
LB tom huddlestone

RM John Barnes
CM Jan Molby
CM Charlie Adam
LM tomas brolin

CF Kris Boyd
CF Mark Viduka

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Sponsered by Pukka Pies. CheltBlue

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Fattest footballer I ever saw was Slim Jim Baxter in his second spell at Ibrox . What about Mark " He's Fat , he's round , he's worth a Million Pounds " McGhee

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Manager Mccoist / Ass Manager Mo Johnston

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21 Dec 2011 16:23:43
Congratulations to Kyle Lafferty and partner on the birth of a baby boy, good luck to them.

WATP

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The disagree cant have children. A fantastic time for him and best of luck to them all. It will give him a boost and Im sure he'll be on fire over the coming months. CheltBlue

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21 Dec 2011 16:06:43
The price for jelavic should be up at the 10 million mark if past transfers from spl are anything to go by ie gordon ,hutton and mcgeady even with the financial problems rangers hold all the aces.If the interest by numerous clubs is true then its a bidding war .Shaun H

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Aye and not one of them was worth it. all failures. especially hutton how anybody paid 9 million for him ill never know hes worth about two doubts and a caramel chew.

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He's one of the best full backs this country has produced in years, and at the time we sold him everyone said he was good value, same with boumsong, cueller etc

rikkisixx

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Is that right. he wasnt popular when he played for rangers. and go on the spurs forums or the aston villa forums and see what they think of him he is possibly the most pathetic player ever to go for a major transfer fee, hes up there with franny jeffers.

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21 Dec 2011 15:31:17
Dear ED001, I know not a Rangers topic, but this is a football forum and it could have implications up here in Scotland also so my question is this.
With John Terry being charged with a "racially aggravated public order offence" should he now be dropped from both Chelsea and England games until these charges come to court?
Yes I know "innocent until proven guilty" but I think with Suarez being banned for 8 games putting Liverpool at a big disadvantage for a lesser charge, then if this drags on for months as court cases tend to do, then chelsea and Terry escape punishment at a crucial period in the league. Also if court case does not start until after Euro 2012 then Terry plays for England and makes a mockery of FIFA Fair Play Rules against Racism.
In the spirit of fair play, Terry should not play any football. What do you think? {Ed001's Note - personally I don't believe you can give him any kind of time out prior to the case being heard. If he is found to be innocent, then it would mean he has been punished for nothing.}

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Clicked agree but it was for the response from ed.Shaun H

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Is Anton Ferdinand not going to come out and say exactly what was said ?

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21 Dec 2011 12:18:23
There seems to be lot of chat about Jelavic being overrated and that we should accept 6 million for him.

Well Im sorry but in an era when Carroll is worth 35 million then Id be looking for AT LEAST 12 million for Jelavic.

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Aye that's right at least 12m.

Wait a minute. The spl is mince,has next to no money in it compared to EPL. Rangers are skint, can't pay bills, list goes on.

Cash up front of offers around 6.5m from a mid league EPL team,then he's off.

Lenny

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12 million ha aye right

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Aye your the expert there Lenny eh?

Raab

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Are you daft lenny the fan or are you lenny the daft manager govanstandman

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Aye and celtic are rolling in cash and still can't win the league
amo

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Well there's a more chance of my thoughts happening than a 12m bid ? No expert, just common sense ?

Not winning the league the last 3 years has been a blessing for rangers, if Celtic won it the last 3 years plus our run of 3 in a row rangers would be in a bigger hole there in just now but that's just football. Also Celtic have just about balanced books by not winning the league hardly any money from Europe not bad considering the state you lot are in. 

Ps also bought a new team & gave tony Mowbray a golden hand shake. 

Lenny

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Titles for the fans or balancing books what would you chosse?


tough choice there.

Rikkisixx

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What a great achievement balancing the books for the past 3 years haha.

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Well balanced books is better than being in the hole that rangers & hearts are in ? You must admit that? Celtic had 3 in a row then wee strachen left tony Mowbray messed it up Lennon took charge for 6 months, builds a new team that threw the league away last year. The way some rangers fans go on about 3iar you would think it was 13 Iar.

Anyway titles Fill the cabinets not the bank balance.not saying winning the league is a good thing but Celtic have done brilliant in the current state of affairs out of the whole spl by not winning the league, if Celtic won the season last year then rangers would be alot worse off.

Lenny

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Is the champagne on ice for your next agm lenny,bet you canny wait till liewell parades the books round parkhead.is that about 12 in a row in book balancing.
hats off to you really wish we were having such a good time.
amo

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21 Dec 2011 11:00:40
mo johnston done the half time raffle at ibrox.

whats happened to him whats he been eating in canada desperate dan pies.

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21 Dec 2011 07:06:56
I see beckford wants out of lcfc. Worth a punt if we can afford him. If they still want jelavic say beckford plus 6 million. I think the guy would score for fun up here
gazza 72

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It would be a straight swap stop kidding yourselves about the value of jelavic.

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Well rangers rejected 6.5 mill bid from lcfc in the summer that is a fact. With the amount of clubs looking at him id say they could get at least 8 mill
beckford aint worth more than 3 doo i think that more than a realistic deal if we can give him a good wage
gazza 72

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That's because there in the championship. Liverpool 'put in' a bid but would have been to late to go through etc. to me his agent will say to him go to a mid table team for a season or 2 then you will get a big move if you can prove yourself down in the EPL. 8m & he's off, but tbh If 6.5m cash up front comes in with a 15% sell on clause then whyte will show him the door.

I see smith is even saying sell jelavic & they lose the league hows that ? Sign Boyd like hooper he's a poacher that scores goals jelavic wages would surely cover Boyd wages & whyte banks the transfer from jelavic ?

Lenny

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The 6.5million figure thrown around Leicester was a verbal enquiry NOT a concrete offer. FACT.

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Beckford is not that good. IMO, CheltBlue

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Beckfords on 20k at leicester...........yes i'm a leicester fan

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Lenny you talk p**h, if mcgready was worth 9 mill or how ever many ginger bottles yous received for him then jelavic is worth 10.. come on and tell us whyte will pocket the cash, sounds like wishful thinking ! away and hope for 4iar in the book balancing championships !! If he leaves it will be for no less than 9 million, whyte mite be tight but hes no daft !!
FauldsRFC

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21 Dec 2011 06:41:27
What Happened With The Two Indian Strikers That We Had On Trials.

D-rfc

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Aluko had to send them home couldnt pay their premier inn room any more his credit card is maxed out.

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These Aluko jokes aren't funny anymore. Think of another one or go away.

Fraser

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Steady on Fraser, anyone would think someone just stole your last can of Kestrel.

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Have to disagree with Fraser,the Sone jokes are and always will be funny. Still in this day and age it is a rarity that a player puts his career ahead of money,so he gets kudos for that at least

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Aluko is the joke. That's the funny thing. Publicly made him,rangers & whyte all look daft. In this day & age he payed his way into rangers that shouldn't happen but it was only a 200,000k which should be nothing to rangers. Rangers are money tight as is yet they didn't pay for him to Come he had to get his family to help out. Rangers are a big club but that didn't do them favours more so with the '12m' super star striker going in jan

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Sone aluko is a joke. a joke that he ever got near rangers.

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Aluko is the joke? how? Rangers and whyte look daft at not paying £200'000 for a lad who hasn't played a competative match this season...how?

Youre a choob? Aye !

If rangers penny pinch every year, and still pump celtic to the league...every year like the last 3, going on 4, then i'd be a happy bear

Rikkisixx

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I think mo jo ate them, washed down with a bottle of buck, served at pocket tempreture of course.

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21 Dec 2011 06:21:44
Team for Saturday

shagger
Broadfoot goian perry papac

Whittiker bartley boca wallace

weir
jelavic

Looks about right dosent it?

Gazza 72

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I think if Ally could get away with it this would be his first team, maybe mculloch in for jela though

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As long as we keep winning he could play Broadfoot centre forward for all i care!!
Shagger
Whittaker Boca Goian Papac

Aluko Davis Bartley Wallace

Jelavic Lafferty

Looks a bit more realistic!!

J1985

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Wots wrong with Jordan Mcmillan (fb) and Mckay in midfield

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21 Dec 2011 01:52:17
My team for sat

Mcshagger
Whittker, goian, Boca, papac
Aluko, davis, bartley, wallace,
Lafferty, jelavic

Rablam

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Bartley is mince in midfield stop playing players out of position, he starts on bench as boca n goian start at cb.

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