Rangers Banter Archive February 21 2015

21 Feb 2015 17:30:09
All the posts about sectarian singing are really interesting. I remember as a 16-year old (in the mid 1960s) following Rangers and getting on the coach from my home city of Dundee to Rangers games (my father was on Rangers books around WWI time before you ask!). The older fans were all singing sectarian bile. I joined in but looking back, didn't have a clue what I was talking about. I have followed Rangers ever since and will always do but I too realise the folly of continuing to sing these songs. I'm pro-British as well as Scottish and I can't stand the pro-Irish/pro-IRA claptrap sung by Celtic followers but I do think the press in the UK (not just Scotland) are anti-Rangers and pro-left wing. God save us from the political left. It seems Celtic can do no wrong as far as the media is concerned. Clearly, the people who write about them have never been close to an Old Firm clash! However, we must grow up and clean up our act and sing the Blue Sea of Ibrox or the Penny Arcade and Follow Follow, without the religious venom.

21 Feb 2015 17:40:24
Worry about what our club an fans are doing not there's an totally disagree with u about anti-Rangers utter bull

Gammet101. Your right to disagree obviously, but I think I'm right. So not utter bull, just 'I don't agree', especially in the context of the conversation. And my mistake, I meant to refer to my grandfather, not father on Rangers books!

21 Feb 2015 18:17:15
Your right doiger but take the follow follow a brilliant song when song properly, but clowns that sing the billy boys will always add the unsavoury bits to it, I think rangers as a club have tried to stop the sectarian singing but since administration and liquidation the songs seemed to have made a unwelcome comeback, take the semi final I gringed when I heard the billy boys being belted out,

21 Feb 2015 18:19:18
Gannet would you say Stan collymore is anti rangers?

Celtic and rangers fans both need to stop thinking there is an agenda against then both clubs are treated the same and if the fans behaved there would be no need for bad publicity. All because of religions and stuff that happened hundreds of years ago. Oh life would be simple if I had just not loved football.

21 Feb 2015 18:33:17
Stan collymore is a no mark wife beater

{Ed001's Note - what does that have to do with it? You can't ignore a good point because you don't like who says it. All that matters is whether he was right, not what kind of scum he is. And make no mistake, he is a vile piece of turd, but that is irrelevant to whether or not he has a point.}

21 Feb 2015 18:34:30
Ceexxx absolut correct paranoid fans we have now not got a brain between them

21 Feb 2015 19:17:23
Stan collymore is anti rangers and anti British his comments prove that, it wasn't that long ago he was telling northern ireland protestants to fxxk off back to britain and disregarding the sacrifice of British soldiers in the Falklands, ed his comments about the billy boys song was correct but it wasn't said in an attempt to wipe out sectarianism it was said to wind up rangers fans,

{Ed001's Note - so? If it was right that is all that matters. Stop whining.}

For the first time since I came on this board I fully agree with a thread.It seems that the majority are against the imbecilic sectarian singing. That and the right result at the EGM almost makes me feel optimistic for the first time in 4yrs

Unfortunetly we have many like them who claim to be rangers supporters but I hasten to add so do our friends in the east end who still fly the the irish flag without any reprimands as the saying goes it takes 2 to tango

21 Feb 2015 22:38:08
Bigwull 2 wrongs don't make a right

21 Feb 2015 22:39:48
Ed001 what's your problem they guy asked if I thought collymore was anti-Rangers an I answered the question with what I thought of him so don't go questioning me for no reason

{Ed001's Note - perhaps you should stop whining like a small child and answer the question he asked then, instead of trying to bring Collymore's antics into the discussion for no reason. You are so full of your own opinion that you think no one can question it? Who do you think you are? Do you think you are so special that no one has a right to question you? Especially when you won't even answer a straight question, just hide away from the issue like a politician. You are so happy to shove your opinion down everyone's throat yet you think it can't be questioned? What is wrong with you? People like you are why forums end up in childish bickering, you just shout over everyone instead of having a discussion and bitch at anyone who doesn't just go along with what you have to say, no matter how irrelevant it is.}

Gannet that is right but what I have posted is fact celtic have offically done nothing to defuse anything they make noises about the green brigade but back down because of falling attendances

Stan is a male katie Hopkins says stuff for a reaction and attention, we know what he is and he is not worthy of a thread on here

22 Feb 2015 04:53:27
Heartening to see so many condemning it, we all get tarred by the Neanderthals. Sometimes I think the vested interests are quite happy with it , the old David and conquer , keep the common man fighting amongst themselves instead of looking upwards at our self serving politicians. I won't be the last guy to think it suits the 'old firm' owners either - they probably see it as an integral part of the rivalry giving it the' X' factor. Maybe we should all be marched around am A&E dept on a game night to dispel any 'romance'
Here's hoping you get rid of your robbing board, and get back up to the premier league the slow way with your youth (you had some good young guys there) HH joe

22 Feb 2015 09:15:31
Bigwull, not entirely true. In 2013 after the fir park incident they suspended over 100 people and disbanded the section of the green brigade. Not exactly doing nothing, and I remember it because when it was in the papers the green brigade went mental and I thought for the very first time "well done the celtic board for standing up to trouble fans"

Aye but then they backed down our friends from the east end may make statements about this or that but at the end of the day they stick together like claggy toffee

Stan collymore has been always been conceited and big headed but he is not worthy of even a mention in any contextlet him an bt sort out there own problems we have enough of our own to bother about him

Bigwull, spot on about collybore, he's the type of guy who probably kisses the mirror goodnight, loves the sound of his own voice, Rangers fans don't need to be worrying about the likes of him, he will find something/someone else to pick on next week.

22 Feb 2015 15:41:19
My last post was not allowed on ed? Wonder why I ain't whining like a little child to be perfectly honest I couldn't care less what collymore says or does I only care about Rangers an rangers alone people gona hate

21 Feb 2015 14:06:46
A wee rant, before the pub.

I am totally against sectarianism.

I am totally against bigotry.

I am totally against racism.

Our football needs to be cleaned up from top to bottom. It does not need points being scored against each other. The definitions about those three I listed have to be clear and open.

There was sectarian singing last night, however there was also sectarian singing at Parkhead the night before.

If you are drunk you should not be allowed into the football ground. If you shout sectarian insults or the like you should be removed - end of.

It seems to me that Rangers are a club that everyone is taking a pop at. Daily Record columnist, Des McKeown has a page about Rangers and clearly shows a photo of the fans with a Union Jack being flown by a fan - What is wrong with a Union Jack? It is this sort of left of centre that I do not like. Celtic fly a tri-colour, their fans sing about the IRA and whatever, they do not have silence for our soldiers - should I go on?

What I am saying is that it happens all over the bloody place - at all clubs === Hibs, Hearts, Dundee (both) and oh Aberdeen whose fans sing some of the most heineous songs you will ever hear, but it seems that we are all only interested in what happens with Rangers.

I do hope that the new regime sets out it's stall and has a pop at thjose who seem disingenerous in the extreme to us.

Imagine for a moment if Rangers fans had put up a banner about Celtic it would have been lambasted by all and sundry and would have sectarian in the extreme, but they do it and it is a laff. Putting an advert in the Herald is a laff?? That was sectarian in all in forms and guises. I was so shocked to see that advert. I felt so hurt that Rangers had fallen so far, that Celtic where allowed to trample all over them without a semblance of outrage from the media. The Herald should hang it's head in shame.

Ed - please post this. It is my feelings at the moment.

I am now away for a few pints - hic!

God Bless all fans The Good Rangers fans and The Good Celtic Fans. To hell with those that bring shame to bothe clubs!

I am going to Ibrox tomorrow to see the youth play in the cup.

Hope to see a good turnout!

21 Feb 2015 12:09:41
Some of the posts on here the day are a bit depressing and I agree that certain songs are a bit backward but this element of hate between Rangers and celtic Protestant and catholic is fueled by media because the old firm is the biggest rivalry in the world it wouldn't be without the hate no one would watch it for the football who would care? It's all about the ugliness of it all and without it, it's just another Derby.

21 Feb 2015 13:11:05
Tut tut, the atmosphere can still be incredible without the bile being spouted!!

Spot on LS and if it does lose some of it's edge without the brain dead on either side then so be it. Life for the emergency services and women and children cowering at home will be better. And that is a lot more important than a football result for the biggots on both sides. Just ask the wee 10 year old who received a bottle in the face for supporting his team.

The songs are totally wrong but nowadays there really not so much animosity away from football between the religions and if its resticted to some songs from both sides of the divide its a whole lot better than it was 25/35 years ago when the arrests after old firm games could go into the hundreds

21 Feb 2015 08:33:43
Just seen we have been reported for the singing last night by the match delegate now in this day an age is there any real need to be singing these song an bring more shame on our club thes me fans need to take a hard good look in the mirror they are knuckle staggers that we don't need we have enough problems to deal with rant over!

21 Feb 2015 09:00:10
Only way to stop this is giving these idiots a life ban from scottish football grounds. No one wants them in their grounds. Use the cameras, identify them and ban them.

The so called Rangers fans who whio these vile songs are not fans of the club, they are self serving idiots who can only express themselves with drink and in a large group.
The police can pick them out and Rangers can give them a life ban, the problem is however how do the away clubs administer life bans for opposing teams - it is a problem?

On the plus side well done to the youth - give them ALL a chance to shine - it cannot get any worse.

In defence of Big Jig - we all know he is past his best, he knows it as well, after all he is 37! But the question is who will lead the team?

Getting nearer to that date - it is all I think about. It is driving me crazeee!

21 Feb 2015 09:55:31
@1 Agree totally, in this day and age it should not be hard to weed them out. It just comes down to if the club want to or not. I think there's traditionally been a fear to act amongst various boards. They've been to scared to alienate the support for fear of loosing cash so they just turn a blind eye. The current board have bigger fish to fry and won't be interested in dealing with the issue as they couldn't care less. let's hope a new board come with a set of balls and create a new club culture to be proud off. These 1d10ts are at best an embarrassment and at worst dangerous.

Given the misrepresentation by the mhedia of the Collymore story I am absolutely disgusted that the knuckle draggers within our support sang sectarian and racist bile in the latter stages of the game and played right into the hands of the press. I would urge anyone within the decent majority of our fans to point these reprebates out to the police or stewards when you witness it. The sooner we rid our support of these vermin the better.

21 Feb 2015 11:31:58
If the police can pick them out then the courts shd be banning them from all games in Scotland not just Rangers 1s they are uneducated people who think they are hard men singing these songs of hate just look at the shame those chelsea fans brought on there club worldwide we don't want this at ibrox or any away ground

It sadens me to think that at time where we need to build bridges and getting ourselves noticed the same people keep turning up and spouting the same of bile. Will they only be happy when the book gets thrown at us. Time to name and shame every week. What happened to the police videoing away fans when there's bother. Surely the old bill and rangers can get together and out these people.

21 Feb 2015 00:56:45
Well after collymore being dumped by BT Sport up step the choir ritee on cue tonight with the billy boys & racist song regarding collymores colour of skin & being a fen##n illegitimate.Do these so called die hard fans engage there brains?It has got to stop! We all know the TV audience tonight would be watching & listening. It Brings more trouble on the club at a critical time & more bad press is all we fuc#ing need.!!Disgusted as it continues with the "There awe against us, kick us when down, revenge mob". Belting out banned songs at the top of there lungs ain't going to help or change bloody nothing.

Agree 100%!!!

Another day, another stick to beat Rangers with, why don't some fans never learn, there's no denying that probably at least 99.9 per cent of Rangers fans have sung the songs at some point on their life's, but I also believe a lot of fans have grown up a bit and don't bother with all that rubbish now, a lot of the younger fans in our support probably don't even know what their singing about. There's not a finer scene when Ibrox is in full voice signing the likes of penny arcade and the blue sea of Ibrox, we don't need the battle songs to be heard.

I can remember walking home from school and one of the guys I was with shouting 'fen##n illegitimates' to the opposite school kids. Thing was I remember thinking wait a minute WE are the Catholic school. My point? We were in primary school, most people with a brain grow out of this stuff, and it's to our external shame as a society that schoolkikds where and still are subjected to the 'what team / do you siupport - wrong answer meaning a doing. This is learned behaviour folks

21 Feb 2015 09:47:04
My hope when we went into liquidation was that this was THE opportunity to return as a new, improved Rangers. A Rangers that left all this bigoted sh#te in the past. A Rangers that allowed me to follow and be proud of every aspect of the club. This nasty, moronic element was always part of my club that made me feel uncomfortable and it saddens me to see young kids being brought up on a diet of this bile. It shames not only the club but our country too. We're supposed to be the best wee country in the world; warm, friendly and everyone loving our charm the world over. Increasingly all I see is a bitter wee cesspool of a country, full of baseless hatred and I'm afraid a large swathe of the Rangers support have to accept responsibility for reinforcing this backward mentality. I've never been happier to accept my decision to accept I no longer have a club. At least I don't have to feel guilty by association. Give me a shout if a new Rangers fit for modern society appear. Until then I'll continue to read posts and take solace from the many decent minded Rangers fans on here.

Very true HH Joe
At the end of the day we all know someone in our lives who support another team than the one we do, who cares, I am very proud to be a Rangers fan, but I also have members of my family and friends who are Celtic fans, and I certainly don't want to be up to my knees in their blood, or anyone elses blood, at the end of the day we are all only supporting a football team, wether it be Rangers, Celtic, Elgin city, or whoever, if I'm standing in a pub and get talking to someone or any walk in life I don't ask them what team they support, or what school they went to, if I ever did do that then I would just give up.The most heart warming story of the week has to be the young lad jay winning goal of the month, that's the kind of stories we need associated with football.

5) Elgin city!, you've taken that too far foreverinbluejeans

I know mate, it was either them or Forfar, but I've got Elgin on my coupon today, so their name was in my head, they better not let me down now.

After all we have been through at the hands of spivs and rip off merchants, its sad that our own so called supporters are letting the club down so badly with their awful songs, how can we possibly win any PR battle with these people continually dragging the club down. We really need to sort this out .

It's embarrassing full stop