Rangers Banter Archive January 21 2012

21 Jan 2012 23:54:12
To the earlier post who wants Ally out after half a season and they say that its easier to be a good manager when your winning, what does that say about you as a SUPPORTER. Do yourself a favour and speak to an old Rangers supporter who has backed his team through the good and bad then ask him why he supports his team through the bad. His answer will be straight to the point , I am a REAL RANGERS SUPPORTER. I know because I am that SUPPORTER.

John greig era..........say no more

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, people don't have to go by YOUR rule book.

21 Jan 2012 23:28:25
I can't believe the stick jelavic is getting, he can't play in a 4-5-1, he was flicking the ball on and running onto it, the service from midfield is shocking, I can't remember the last time we had such a bad centre midfield partnership, edu is 1 of the worst midfielders to play way rangers and I think its affecting Davis game.

Anybody who is giving jelavic stick should get off his back,if it was not for him we would be more than 4 points behind.remember who has been scoring the goals.

We will see how bad it is without him if he goes cause I don't see who will step up and score the goals.

21 Jan 2012 23:09:36
Whats the point in signing a striker? every game we play at Ibrox is negative boring football,we need a creative midfielder who can put his foot on the ball and actually pass to a blue jersey,once we get that then maybe a striker.

You can have all the creativity in the world but if there is no one there to put the ball in the net then what`s the point.today showed that,we bombarded the aberdeen goal all the second half but could score.

21 Jan 2012 22:38:43
Hi ED. I understand if u choose not to answer this. Do you think rangers will win the tax case? Won't hold your answer against you, would just like your opinion plz? Thanks.

Dtp89 {Ed014's Note - I am no expert on it and there is some amount of rubbish going about but I think that there will be a bill of some sort to pay.

No point in asking any1 about the outcome of the tax case. Its a completley private matter. Even the press cant get any info on it. Only Rangers and HMRC know how strong their cases are.

The press don't want to get info on it. Would spoil their agenda.

To the above poster, the press cant get info on it. HMRC matters are not open to the public or the media. Doesnt matter if its a Football Club or the Burger van that sits outside it. Im a Celtic Fan and its folk like u that give us a bad name. Just enjoy 2days results and stop being a muppet with the usual paranoid guff.

Drew

21 Jan 2012 22:24:26
so we are in the middle of a tax investigation. but fans are talking about protesting against whyte if he doesn't go public about whats going on at the club. well seeing that weir n fleck had to be shipped out before celik came in its pretty obvious to me we have very little/if any money available. why would whyte go public on the clubs finances with hmrc watching our every move? if jelavic goes for between 5-8 million then id expect ally to see a bit of money, maybe 1 or 2 million to replace him. bottom line is whyte stepped up when no one else would n hes now cleaning up murrays mess. backing him is our ONLY choice. lack of support for a guy who chose to take on the tax man on our behalf is disappointing.
j1985

I can understand what you are saying but it`s probably going to be after the end of the transfer window before the tax case is done,so why can`t "whyte" not use his own money to buy striker like david murray would have done.i think he has some fans fouled.

Murray used his own cash?? why you think were in this mess?murray took plenty outa ibrox mate

It's so much like Leeds utd,Murray chased a dream, just like peter ridsdale, and look what happened to Leeds

Like a game of poker, dont show your hand till you need to, hopefully Mr Whyte's a right shark and steers us out of these stormy and troubled waters.... patience is required, lets see how tax problem goes then see what he's prepared to do for club.... LARKYELLIS

21 Jan 2012 22:13:31
You are all going on about this 21 point turn around and how ally is useless. Who got u's that lead in the first place? The manager has had nothing to work with, no money, false promises from whyte, majour injuries and players he thought could do the job, not performing!

Get off his back abd behind the team!

21 Jan 2012 21:50:08
Lost to 2 poor teams in Europe, lost to Lower league team in cup, 21 pt turn around in 8 weeks. Haven't played well most of the season, Celtic at ibrox and Motherwell apart. Crisis what crisis. Jelavic situation and his replacement if any might just finish Ally.

21 Jan 2012 21:05:29
Too many hysterical wee lassies on here,we drew a game,we have no devine right to win every game,ffs,look across the city,i dont remember this hysteria when we were 12 points ahead.The league ends in may,back the team,and stop moaning like spoilt brats.Marvin Andrews said Keep Beleiving.watp

Where Are The Points!!

21 point turn around in 2 months, hard to keep believing....get real,Ally hasn't a clue....it's easy to be a good manager when you are winning....after our first loss though, it has been meltdown.....thats the truth of the matter....add to that, the european disaster....maribor and malmo, we never won any of those four games, and both teams finished ''bottom'' of their Europa league groups without a single win between them....we are pure p***....

Aye thanks for your support,another part time glory hunter,the same ones who came out the woodwork when Souness rolled up.Get a grip,you know the dhims will slip up,its in their nature.watp

It takes more to be a supporter than just blindly following your team

21 Jan 2012 20:51:08
How can most people on here call yourself true rangers fans all i'm reading is sack ally sell this player sell that player and wanting answers from craig whyte and on his back for not spending big money well give him till after the tax case is over and if we get off with it and he still does'nt spend the money then get the daggers out for him, just remember what we rangers supporters sing every week follow follow.

jb

The blue mist descends again......follow follow is great, but sometimes prevents you from looking at things realistically. we are in a dire state, and getting worse.

Yes,we all love our club and will follow them to the ends of the earth, but we must remember what this game is about "winning".ever when we were in serious debt under david murray he still managed to find the money for players when we needed it.we are not asking the "CHAIRMAN" to spend big money,all we are asking is that we keep this promises and spend something on a striker,after all this is the man that promised to spend £25 million over 5 years.so far he has only spent money that he has got from selling players. ger4life

To above poster no he never we were losing players almost every transfer window what whyte has brought has been a bit of stability in a terrible period atleast now the bank doesn't control us and we get the money for players that suits us not the bank.

Dixie

21 Jan 2012 20:11:00
We must ask questions. What's happening at ibrox whyte must come up with the answers now. As loyal supporters we must all stick together and ask this man. He's got rangers on there knees we must protest if he doesn't explain. At the game today and rangers were shocking Bocca goin are far to slow. Bartley never a back. Papac is well of the pace and can't make a ten yard pass Davis is shocking for a rangers captain edu played really well for a change jellyfish is not kicked a ball for weeks if we get offered five mill for him bite there hand off heally is a waste of a wage

Good to hear that someone else who thinks "craig whyte" should give us some answers.he said he would do "everthing in his power " to keep rangers at the top but since he came to rangers we have went backwords and celtic are spending money to go forward.the honeymoon is over "put your hand in your pocket".

21 Jan 2012 19:58:15
Celtic loose to Hearts, away from home, Rangers beat Hibernian at home, ONE POINT in it.

Rangers 1 - 0 Celtic. Rangers two points clear.

At least we bloody drew.
Remember that bad spell Celtic had at the start of the season, who did they have injured? Izzaguire.
Who is injured now? Kayal.

Celtic were mince today, but got lucky, hasn't really happened to Rangers this season but just wait until the tables are turned and Celtic start to "feel we deserved more out of the game as we created enough chances".

I totally agree with most in saying this has been quite a shambles away lately, but wait until after the Hibernian game next weekend and Celtic's game at Hearts. If Rangers fail to beat Hibernian I feel that Mcoist should consider his job.

Only one man for it Walter Smith.

"You are our Walter our Walter Smith you make us happy when skies are grey, so F@

Rangers played well today and dropped 2 points at home,whats your point?

Celtic were mince? Did you actually watch the game son? We outplayed St Mirren for the entire first half. The wind played a huge part in the second half, but we still dug in and scored two. And we won without Kayal, Izzy and Matthews!

DazzaBhoy

You need to get a coupon on mate.we beat hibs,they lose at hearts were still behind! thats the point.

They didn't play well enough, hence 2points dropped unless you think dropping points is playing well

Izaguirre, K.Wilson,Commons, Brown,Loovens,Kayal were all injured during our bad spell so get ur facts right!

Ha Ha, you dithering idiot, i think a 19 pt turnover in 7 weeks is enough, sack sally, billy davies is your man...do we even have to tell you who to appoint. Mind the gap.......
Bhrydo Bhoy

Who gives a flying for that mob ? We are playing Dundee Utd in the cup next week btw, not Hibs !!!!!!! Concentrate on Rangers man, that shower of bottlers will do what they do best and come SECOND............. Nothing won til May

This post is as funny as Raul coming on loan

delusions of grandeur come to mind

We play Hibs at Ibrox Sat 28th.

Correct, it is Hibs, but who gives a F**k we are still the RANGERS !!!!!!!

St mirren were the better team by far!

Yeah think u mite be forgetting the penalty Celtic shud have had for the blatant handball and The Rogne goal that was clearly onside.

Drew

21 Jan 2012 19:40:42
Win together lose together this is when the team needs us most, I've said for months this team ain't good enough the summer signings apart from Boca havnt been good enough, ally spent 750,000 on mckay and ortiz and kenny miller was going for 400,000, Mr tight isn't the man many thought he was, it could take a few years of pain but we will be back.

21 Jan 2012 19:22:51
all the fans who say stick with ally stop and think for a sec out of europe 4points behind THEM!!! the club needs a change and ally getting the boot is that change i say it the way i see it.

Who the hell would want the job?
wt a job prospect. fans tht dont give u a chance n no money to spend. n fancing administration.
get a grip

Celtic threw away the league last year in Lenny's first season. It's only McCoist's first year and Whyte has made it awfully difficult for him!

DazzaBhoy

I was at the game today and we created a lot of chances, but Davis and Bartley - Words escape me. Bartley is never a right back, He was p1ss poor there last week and wasn't much better today. Davis was a passenger, for some reason the Armband seems to heavy for him, he has been poor since he got it and Ally is using it as a reason not to drop him, (see his comments on the Fleck situation for proof of this) Ortiz, Bedoya and Mckay, 3 players slated week in week out on this Forum, yes they haven't set the heather on fire but have they had a chance too? not in my opinion,
Ally see's them in training and is best placed to call it, but I think he is determined to play players regardless of there best position and in Bartley's case it must be down to Arsenal putting pressure on Rangers to play him anywhere as long as he is playing, that's not right and its going to cost us, for the love of God Ally drop Davis on the Bench give the armband to Bocanegra give McKay or bedoya a chance

Pete

I say the change we need will come when we longer have the HMRC saga hanging over us. The club will be able to rebuild and get back on a financial level footing with Celtic, we have dominated domestically for three season with no money, inevitably it will catch up to us

21 Jan 2012 19:06:34
Oh No! I was coming on here to praise Celtic but we have lost league now as Mr Whyte has just announced Messi, Iniesta and Fabregas will sign on monday, and we all know that everything whyte says is 100% Gospel! LOL Timalloy

What was that comment you made earlier to someone else, something about Hand of friendship, you my friend talk the biggest load of crap

21 Jan 2012 18:56:24
when are we as rangers supports going to start letting craig whyte know that he can't buy this great club then make promises about spending money then do nothing.we need a least 1 good goalscorer if not 2.if we lose the league then there is only one man to blame "CRAIG WHYTE"

And what exactly will you say to the OWNER, "you can't do this". Once we are on admin and possibly the 3rd division, you can say it to him again.

21 Jan 2012 18:36:27
The guys on Clyde are right, the biggest failing has been signings, Ortiz, Bedoya and McKay have been shocking signings. Personally I believe Wallace was a bad one because he cost a lot and isn't that good. There is no point in bringing in guys who are no better than what we have coming through, is Bedoya any better than Wylde? No. McKay better than Fleck? No.

GovanFR

All ally singnings

Ye Ally was wrong to sign them when we could have had the likes of Miller, Novo etc.

GovanFR

21 Jan 2012 18:17:05
GET MCCOIST OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!sorry but he has to go and take bedoya.ortiz,mckay,broadfoot,bartley,mcculloch,edu,healy,with u cant wait to see sky sports news with top headline.BREAKING NEWS ALLY MCCOIST SACKED AS RANGERS MANAGER!!!!!!!! i cant bloody wait,

Yeah and who would take his job, no money to buy players, and the future of Rangers not clear the now

He has got to take some responsibility for the results how many points have we now dropped Healy should hang his head in shame I am 70 followed Rangers for most of my life and with chances he has had in front of goal even I could have hit the target Shame taking a salary for that let him go for starters

21 Jan 2012 18:00:39
Who would people rather see than Mcoist as manager? realistically? Also what players would you get rid of?

Billy davies

Big Terry butcher

Don't want ally sacked to much jumping on band wagon look at Celtic they were they same but lennons turned it down due to our poor performances but they stuck by him. Ally's had no money what do u expect miracles. I have faith in ally still . But if youse are wanting a manger who is good wi youth n tight budget and I think would jump at chance look no further than hollaway

Slaven bilic would be my choice.,
we need an experienced manager who has some tactical knowledge,
ally is a rangers legend but a 19 point swing would surely have any manager sacked,i'm not surprised craig whyte isnt trusting him with any cash

Butcher's a good shout actually, he's done well with a skint Inverness and I'm sure he could get our current squad playing with the passion we expect. truthfully though, I'd give Ally till the end of the season before making judging him, think he has what it takes to lead the Gers forward.

Duccablue

Lennon has the respect of his players,mc coist tells jokes in the dressing room.....it shows on the pitch tbh

Billy Davies,he bolted from forest due to lack of transfer funds,rangers arent exactly rolling in cash.

Biggest mistake in a decade was sacking big eck !

Hollaway could never handle pressure of Glasgow

Ally has to go riight now or 4iar is out of our reach

Butcher and MCcall double act for me

21 Jan 2012 17:45:36
absolutely gutted with today, thats us 19 points worse off that oct/nov time.... and jelavic going makes it really hard to swallow.... just wish we could stop the slump....

also fear the boy fleck will be another adam... dont care who comes on here and says otherwise he had bags of talent ... why did we let a young hungry talent go?

wheres big marv when we need him "keep believing"

Fleck a 'young hungry talent'. Mate he's had 4/5 years to prove himself. I'v watched over the last 4/5 years and a worse player i have never seen. Honesly he's hopeless. Adam was getting a game for us a least on a reg basis. No one was siging his name before he went away so dont see what the deal is now. He is a fat lazy waste of space. Better without!

c-bear85

C-Bear85, 4-5 years to prove himself, Fleck is only 20, do you deem 15 an age to prove yourself. He has never been given a run in the team, he has natural ability his biggest problem is attitude which, hopefully, a loan move will sort out.

GovanFR

21 Jan 2012 17:36:17
mccoist is the manager he is out of his deph he is a joke like the team and dont bother defending him a like him as a legend but thats all he is walter would never have let this happen now we are getting found out big time manager dont have a clue we have better players on the bench an am sure we have a youth striker that can score goals am sick of this rubish keeps getting worse

21 Jan 2012 17:27:17
1-1 against Aberdeen, they had 5 first team players missing. "World beater" jellyfish anonymous.
Never mind you have been promised Raul ha ha
Mind the (increasing) Gap
What A Team Plonkers lol Timalloy

21 Jan 2012 17:22:08
10 corners in last 20 mins, seen schoolboys take better ones, someone has to take the ball off Davis at set-pieces cause his free kicks and corners are rubbish, P.S. edu blew it should've burst the net with that chance.

21 Jan 2012 17:06:00
look rangers are a joke am not happy we put kerker up font wat a joke he doint play there we play a centre back bartly in right back wat a joke an wallace in left mid wat another bad choice he is is a left back an jela has his mind sumwer else ally mccoist is the person two blame like it or not his job is two pick the team two win an he doesnt do it just now he left fleck go out wen we aint got any1 in aswel complete joke

21 Jan 2012 17:03:09
This team will never win the league. We are f***ed

21 Jan 2012 17:02:42
19 pts in 3 months, out of 3 cups by mediocre sides. This simply is not good enough, Im afraid ally your legend status is taking a battering week after week. not a happy bear and honestly cant see how ally can turn this round.........

I'm afraid its going get worse cause the group of players we have are hopeless.

Well, accept the situation we are in.

21 Jan 2012 17:01:24
Oh dear, we need strikers and quickly

Aye we are selling our only decent striker so its going get worse.

He's no kicked his @rse aw season, so NO ! he's no oor only decent striker..... it's much worse, WE DON'T F*****G HAVE ONE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HELP.. Something needs to change soon, this is no better than the garbage I watched in the early eighties, and for all you young Bears, that was absolute torture :( AndyPandy63............ A Bear for life, ' Mon Rangers !

21 Jan 2012 16:59:24
HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HA

TO THE TUNE OF SILLY BOYS

MMI2009

21 Jan 2012 16:59:15
The league is over. Dropping points every week

The only plus side of finishing second is we go into champions league qualifiers at the same stage.although we cant start a european campaign with mccoist in charge he must go now and take his s**t signings with him.

I can't believe some people on here, we have no chance of the champions league

And who is going to come in, give current circumstances? They will hardly be queuing up. We may not have licence for Euro football next year- and perhaps succeeding years- lets just wait and see.

21 Jan 2012 16:58:26
mccoist surely has to be sacked now this team is useless.

21 Jan 2012 16:31:33
Come on edu ! One all - 20 mins left

21 Jan 2012 16:21:46
This game at ibrox is a joke we have half an hour to save our season in my opinion

21 Jan 2012 14:43:41
Do anyone else think that Rangers or Celtic will ever get back to being top clubs in Europe? Or do you think its downhill from now on?

Untill Scottish football in general changes
it will be very doubtful the clubs are more than big enough with a fantastic fanbase
but we can still not compete with wage
offers elsewhere if we could their is no doubt the Old Firm would be a forse in Europe.

Not as long as sky sh!t on us we wont.cant compete with the crap telly money we get

Not Sky's fault, we had an excellent deal with them before but clubs outside the old firm wanted our own channel then we got Setanta and looked what happened

21 Jan 2012 13:19:19
to all these craig whyte bashers .the guy is trying to sort out a mess not of his making .he cant run the club as he sees fit until the tax issue is resolved, hes took a hard line on any media and papers who bad mouth the club which murray never done .hes already trying to think of ideas of how to improve the brand globally and im sure the guy has plenty of ideas , and all those who say he takes companies and liquidates them yes he does but rangers are not like a normal company they are an instituition with followers all over the world .whyte would be a lunatic to put rangers out of business as he would be hounded were ever he goes and his life wouldnt be the same the guy is not stupid he said it himself .rangers are a business unlike any other hes been involved in its all new to him the football world .so lets give the guy time to turn the club around before judging him .....bigt

Kinda agree with you but we need some transparency n details of his plans.plz dont say he cant cz of tax case thats nonsense he could tell us the plan for either scenario.we wont have any euro money nxt season so how we gonna make that up? we got no credit line so unless whyte puts cash into us our running costs are gonne be a problem

21 Jan 2012 10:37:13
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21 Jan 2012 08:14:46
West ham , Rangers now in talks. Championship team with what I believe to be a mediocre manager. Clear that Rangers will be pushing this just can't see why he would go here with the chance of not making the prem?

GDog
WATP

Wait a minute here, If Sam Allardyce is mediocre what does that make Ally ?? Sam Allardyce has a good CV and took Bolton into Europe on a shoe string budget. Ally on the other hand has yet to win/prove anything. The bottom line is Rangers could have said he is not for sale but they didn't so thats why we are where we are.

Barra 1591

Exactly my friend, west ham will be in the premiership in all likelyhood next season anyhow

james rfc 1980

Read my message, I clearly stated that Rangers are pushing this! Maybe read a little bit slower next time or I could try and make the font a bit bigger for you!

As for Sam, he is mediocre. He was decent for Bolton and has failed ever since. That's is according to every club who has sacked him since. Only a desperate West Ham brought him off the scrap heap.

GET BEHIND YOUR MANAGER.

GDog
WATP

If you have a problem with McCoist who has NO MONEY go and support another club. Your probably the kind of 'fan' on here bashing him!

You boys are living in the past.

21 Jan 2012 06:00:32
not a rumour but who is of the same opinion as me- the real GAZZA should be at Ibrox as a coach !

And his Plastic Parrot?

21 Jan 2012 01:08:28
grant holts contract runs out in july so the fact we are linked with him makes me think that we are on the brink of losing jelavic, holt signed for Norwich in 2009 for 400k, he is prob worth about 8m in epl terms now, but with only 6months left on his contract surley we could get him for around 3-4m and we would still have money left from the sale of jelavic, I would love to see holt n jela in the same team just don't think we can afford to have them both, imo i really like holt he's a leader scores goals big strong and I think he could be every bit as good as jela in the spl if not better! *ksd* {Ed014's Note - Players contracts in England can't end in July.It is June or January,it's in the FA and EPL rules.

Are you serious !? Grant holt worth 8mill your in a dream son even 3-4 mill is nonsense do you think we can afford that type of deal include his wages that's a fortune so waken up

No need to be pedantic over a few weeks difference facts is he signed on the 24th of july 09 on a 3year contract so 3years is up on 24/7/12, otherwise it's a 2year and 11 and a half month contract! the rule states it is the 30th of june the have an offer of a further year wich must be stated 28 days in advance. *ksd* {Ed014's Note - It is stated in the rules when contracts can expire so nobody was being pedantic.Only stating a fact.Holt's contract expires on 30/06/2014 as in accordance with the rules.

So which one of you is right ? Is his contract up 2012 or 2014... whoevers rite doesn't change the fact holts nowhere near worth what your saying! Sorry if I'm been pedantic aswell ya tube ! {Ed001's Note - he signed a new contract recently, 2014 it runs out.}

So when's holts contract up then 2012 or 2014