Rangers Banter Archive January 21 2018

21 Jan 2018 17:12:00
COLDO. I talk single fish? It was me who posted on this site telling you all that Rangers had not put in a bid for Docherty, when everyone on here claimed we had bid 600k. I have more info than people like you, who dream up nonsense. I don't remember seeing Morelos doing anything in the box in the old firm game, which is his job btw! Sovaway and take your single fish because that probably talks more sense than you do big man.

21 Jan 2018 18:10:48
What have I dreamed up? Not once have I posted anything claiming to be in the know! More single fish from you. Only two posters claimed to that we put in a bid, the majority of posters including myself said that it was only an enquiry so you told us nothing that the majority of us already knew. More single fish from you. Morelos had a great game and any other day he takes them chances. So to say he did nothing is more single fish from you. that's 3 statements where you are clearly talking single fish so yes CHINA you do talk SINGLE FISH! and btw you don't have any reliable info from anyone otherwise you wouldn't be here talking single fish! More single fish from you CHINA. that's 4 single fish statements.

21 Jan 2018 18:22:07
morelos apart from a goal was really good in the old firm game

21 Jan 2018 18:30:47
Do yous two work in a chip shop? 😂😂😂😂
Made me hungry there all the fish 🐟 talk.

21 Jan 2018 18:49:41
Not sure about the single fish, seems more like a menzies flight

21 Jan 2018 19:09:31
Just trying to be polite😂😂

21 Jan 2018 19:14:00
Said it at the time on the other page a thought Morelos had a good solid game in the old firm and they 2 saves fae gordon to stop him we’re top drawer! A think the work the wee man does OFF the ball is excellent and top goal scorer by January no bad either 🙄😆

21 Jan 2018 20:57:57
Top scorer and at 13/2 to finish too scorer, well worth a punt

21 Jan 2018 23:27:32
Im away for a fish supper

21 Jan 2018 23:33:22
Am I on the correct site, a couple of Auld women arguing at the cold meat counter sounds like, arguing over the spam or luncheon meat.

22 Jan 2018 00:48:08
No wonder bankie, I know its all about opinions but jeeso, to come out and say that morelos was nowhere in the old firm game, tell us he has a poor touch, is nowhere near the quality that we make out, question his ability to be top scorer come the end of the season. Just off the top of my head the both goals he scored in america were first time touches, now if that's a poor touch then wow. He nearly won us the game at celtic park, he was very unlucky. Tore brown a new one and tormented their defence. He is top scorer at the mid way point in the league and as I said above those two goals in america showed that he is not drying up goals wise and what he is capable of. Why can't he finish top scorer? He might not but there is no evidence to suggest he can't or isn't capable of finishing top scorer. He's only 20? And will surely only get better. Again its all about opinions but that sort of unjustified, unproven, utter nonsense has to be nipped in the bud.

21 Jan 2018 16:04:40
To anyone who watched the Hearts v Hibs game today, that's why Naismith can't get a game for Norwich and that's why we didn't sign him!

21 Jan 2018 16:20:15
It's up to you if you want to judge someone based on their first game in months. Most countries would not recognise that as a football match! From what I saw no one would get pass marks doesn't necessarily make them bad footballers although some probably are.

21 Jan 2018 17:19:39
BigMarv05. My point is Naismith would of potentially been a six month loan, clearly he's not up to match fitness having been out since August. We haven't got time to wait. Maybe that's why we went for Cummings instead. Younger, hungrier and fitter.

21 Jan 2018 17:28:23
I'm happier with Cummings too mate. Just saying you couldn't really judge anyone in a match like that! I've said much further down the page that if as most are predicting he is injured and/ or pish for Hearts then we've dodged a bullet. However if he proves otherwise the debate may rage on.

21 Jan 2018 17:52:17
He wasant to bad saying has he has not played for a long time so to get thrown into that kind of game won't be easy but from what I saw him did ok

21 Jan 2018 21:17:53
Yes, I agree thought he did ok been out for long time Naismith still good player pretty sure he will score goals hope it’s not us

22 Jan 2018 07:19:40
Hi. fellow bears seems ridiculous that we are on a rangers site talking about hearts and hibs who gives a toss ? What I find strange about it is if we sign a player who isn't match fit they train until ready? But other teams through them straight in?

21 Jan 2018 15:11:13
Thoughts with family of Hamiltons community coach who passed away at age of 24 after long illness. God bless.

22 Jan 2018 00:16:26
Whoever pressed disagree above should name and shame yourself! wishing death on anybody is a terrible thing, just think that could be one of your family members after all.

{Ed033's Note - you can't assume you know why someone clicked disagree. Someone has said before why they clicked disagree to a similar post and in their mind without thinking about it, a thumbs down = being sad for someone that died.

22 Jan 2018 10:43:01
I knew Matt, he was a great guy. Good player as well, if it wasn't for injury he would definitely have made it with Hamilton.

Always remember we were playing a school game, he was in P5 and had scored 5 goals by half time. Our coach had to take him off because it was unfair to play him. Rip mate x

22 Jan 2018 16:36:13
Ed i hear what you are saying about maybe someone pressed disagree by mistake for example, but If this was the case then why not say sorry that Was a mistake i didn't mean to press the disagree button or whatever? that would be at least the descent thing to do, or explain why they pressed disagree if it was for some other reason? i still think think they pressed it trying to be a smart ass, imo, anyway we will move on and enjoy your day ed.

21 Jan 2018 11:23:48
I would say that if Alves leaves we need to keep Cardoso until the end of season. Only selling him once replacement is found. should be easy.

Herrera and Hudson will also have to be kept until replacements are found.

Niko and Alves both can leave now.

Offer Miller a coaching role with option to take the now.

New deals to Wilson and Bates (loaning Bates out once signed)

Loan out Dodoo and Rossiter both on 6 months loans with option to recall.

Would anyone offer Hardie and Thompson new contracts?

21 Jan 2018 11:42:10
Would give hardie two years. In Scotland under 21s. Behind mcburnie and Burke so must have something. If we let him go I think we may be making a mistake.

21 Jan 2018 12:16:16
Would only offer Hardie 1 1/ 2 years contract with option of extra year in Rangers Favour. So next season make or break for him.

Thompson would be the same offer

Hopefully we get Arfield signed on pre contract but out of Haliday Thompson McClean who would you like as squad player

21 Jan 2018 12:08:26
He'll develop whilst on loan hopefully, rather than sitting on our bench. Not ready for 1st team.

21 Jan 2018 13:09:00
Cold
He has to make the step up to first team next season as he will 21 then.
Plus Tyler Roberts is a year younger will he be given 2/ 3 years to break into first team? . I think not

21 Jan 2018 14:59:19
Players all develop at different stages johngreig, just because he is 21 does not mean he is ready. If he has to go on loan to develop so he is ready for 1st team then so be it. If tyler roberts is ready then yes if he is not the no. Simple as that. Rooney broke through when he was 16, does that mean all 16 year olds should make the step up to the 1st team? Naw of course it doesn't! If they are ready they will play. Hardie atakayi are not ready!

21 Jan 2018 15:50:04
I agree caldo but what I am saying at 21 years old he should be at least a squad player and right now he's not ready. I said I would give him a 1 1/ 2 years contract with option of extra year. So 2 1/ 2 years should be long enough to break into first team squad.

Saying that there should always be a place for him in our squad before Herrera

21 Jan 2018 16:02:07
jboy i don't get your comment that be must have something because he was behind mcburnie an burke? just being named in the same squads as them doesn't put him in the same bracket. my concern is that he has failed to break through with four managers now, one not fancying him fair enough but he continually isn't well rated by the guys who see him day in day out. if he can't break through when our squad was at its weakest up front with herrera and an older miller being the only options outside el buffalo then will he realistically have a chance as we continue to strengthen the squad?

21 Jan 2018 16:38:12
For me unless they are absolutely outstanding at Livi then it's curtains for the pair of them I'm afraid. Tend to agree with Snell on this one they've been there long enough and Murty was their coach in the u20s so knows them as well as anyone. Also for all Pedro's failings and there was many he wasn't shy in giving youth a chance if they merited it, and even he didn't give them a sniff despite our senior players not performing.

21 Jan 2018 16:58:28
@johngreig, aye mate hardie plays before hererra 100% agree.

21 Jan 2018 11:02:50
Lots of fans not wanting ex players back at the club. Naismith, hutton and mcgregor but here is a senario.

If Southampton get relegated this season they will want to get rid of some players off the wage bill. Steven Davis has already said he would like to return to Rangers.

Would you take him back?

21 Jan 2018 11:21:44
In a heartbeat

21 Jan 2018 11:35:09
OMFG😂😂 Would you take your misses back if she cheated on you lol

21 Jan 2018 11:43:09
Davis cheated on no one

21 Jan 2018 11:50:53
I would but he would to be playing better than Dirt and at the time as it would have to be one or the other as we need to plan for the future not just this season and next

21 Jan 2018 12:17:53
Dorrans not Dirt. lol

21 Jan 2018 10:47:38
Strange how a week changes things last week all we heard was that we were heading for admin 2 and that we didn't have any money to buy players now it seems most are saying that we've done the right thing loaning players for 6 months try before you buy so if it doesn't work out then we just pap them back to their parent clubs and we're not stuck with all these players we don't want or need but then if it does work out the deals are setup to be pushed through at pre agreed prices I always thought this was a better way to do business due to the amount of unwanted players we've had to pay off or try and get rid of cheaply over the last few years and then there's still the uncertainty of weather Murty will actually be given the gig on a longer contract but for me I hope he does well and get a 2 or 3 year contract but it it doesn't work out then at least a new manager isn't left with a big bunch of players he doesn't want when he wants to build his own team.

21 Jan 2018 12:07:48
What happens if they play really well and say wolves or villa get promoted and offer them treble wages as to what rangers can offer. They are only on loan because the money is not there. Loans are not the way forward for any club with ambitions

21 Jan 2018 12:57:58
Unfoftunately with our financial situation we don't really have much choice but to operate in the loan market or lower league market

21 Jan 2018 13:35:37
All loans have different stipulations Not A Rumour like first refusals, obligatory set fees, buy backs etc. It is imperative that a club in our position uses the loan market wisely and to its advantage. To dismiss using them as lack of ambition would be naive to say the least.

21 Jan 2018 14:50:18
Big Marc your kidding yourself on if you think Murphy deal on loan was planned. Now everyone saying loan deals is the best way forward. Should the young lad from Hamilton not be tried on loan first to see if he can handle playing for rangers.

Loan deals big Marc like Goss are good loans as we know we are not getting him as q p r are keeping him. But Cummins and Murphy are because wee have no money not because wee want to see if they can handle playing for rangers.

21 Jan 2018 15:06:40
Didn't say anything about try before you buy mate. Having the benefit of their skills in the meantime (Murphy, Cummings) then paying for them when we have the season ticket money is sustainable. We have first refusal and agreed prices for both so no danger of losing them if they're successful. As for Goss that's one player and if he makes the difference between coming 2nd rather than 3rd then he is totally worthwhile. Celtic are in a far stronger position financially yet they still use the loan market wisely because whether you like it or not Scotland is a football backwater.

21 Jan 2018 15:30:28
Well you have seen the posts on here and too many people seem to think this is a new thing the board have come up with instead of facing reality that there is no money left.

Celtic have got players on loan who they can't afford to buy and pay there wages so don't let Celtic fans or board kid you on either.

21 Jan 2018 16:05:20
Our financial position should be fairly clear given the accounts etc. Only the board know exactly how little they have to work with, but no money can't be accurate otherwise they would not have approached McInnes, or started negotiations over Murphy or Docherty. January is notorious for overinflated prices for all clubs and given we sell season books in the summer this will obviously be our leanest period. The recently passed resolutions mean there will be an opportunity for fresh investment through a share issue. Our retail profits should increase every year from now on.
Getting back to loans Walter certainly understood the benefits of them, and as McCulloch stated recently the January deals bear all of his hallmarks. Celtic can definitely afford Roberts, whether he's interested in a permanent transfer is a different story. Due to the money down south there are many quality players that are surplus. Bringing in several players on loan that we have no chance of signing permanently wouldn't make sense but each deal should be judged on its own merits.

21 Jan 2018 09:05:04
I'm not one for blaming others e. g. Referring decisions etc as Rangers men we need to be better than that however I see the media in our country is over run by them this is why I don't read newspapers . Fair play to them for working there way into the media I can't help but notice the posts on here saying the sun said this and the record said that . It all seems to be either unsettling player news or negativity. We know from resent measures taken how they will do what they can to unsettle us i don't speak for anyone else but I don't understand why us as Glasgow Rangers supporters would pick up any of these news papers . Vote with your wallet if it's not on Skysports it's usually propaganda.

On a lighter not great result for our lads at Bayern yesterday particularly after going a goal down .

I also think we are doing the right things not paying over the odds for players at other clubs in our league. I hope the lad Cummings does well and I believe we have the option to buy at the end of the season . I don't know how much Forset are asking for him if anyone can shed some light on that for me if you have an actual idea .

21 Jan 2018 09:31:13
Option to buy for £600000

21 Jan 2018 09:41:15
100% agree about the press Anotherbear
I have not bought a news paper in a long time
As time goes on they are just making fools of themselves with their pish
After what the Sun has done over the years you would have to be off your head to buy it in the first place let alone believe the shi*e they print

21 Jan 2018 12:04:04
Posh Bear what makes you sure it's a £600,000? Seems a bit cheap to me?

I wouldn't give them the money for such a biest view if all the Rangers supporters stopped buying, g there papers they would loss the customer of more than half the country .

Do you think we done the right thing getting Cummings instead of Naismith? Personally I do Cummimgs is at the start of his carrer and proven goal scorer at this level . Aside from how Naismith chose to leave the club with no dignity we supported and stuck by him throughout long term injury he's at the end of his career .

21 Jan 2018 13:28:16
Wholeheartedly agree on your media appraisal AnotherBear! 👏

21 Jan 2018 17:32:47
Anotherbear, Can’t agree with your newspaper thesis. When we were winning 9IAR, the papers must have been full of 'us'. Now they are dominating domestic footballs the papers are full of 'them'.

It’s about who’s top dog - not about the editors of newspaper proactively recruiting journalists with specific allegiances to certain teams.

The state our club has been in is not down to the media.

21 Jan 2018 18:11:29
Your right on a couple of points there bruisedbear. It does have more to do with who's top dog or the 'establishment club' and the state of our club is not down to the media. However through my father who was a newspaper man himself and has worked for every major newspaper in Scotland I happen to know for a fact that the majority of the sports desks and editors happen to be tims now, and was not the case in the past. I despise the media except for my father who is now retired and was a book/ film critic for my lifetime. Sadly the industry has changed massively since his days and is full of slimy creatures (nothing to with allegiances) who are desperately trying to stay in a job through sensationalism. Celtic fans rage that they are trying to hawk all of their players out although it does serve to inflate their prices while diminishing the value of ours. We have been an easy target for a number years now, but we must remember no one likes us and we should not care!

21 Jan 2018 03:46:58
Bye bye alves. u won't get in the Portugal team playn fir benevento.

21 Jan 2018 04:42:33
He won't get into the Portugal squad playing for us either .

21 Jan 2018 10:00:38
he don't even play for us, complete waste of a jersey and money, con man at best

21 Jan 2018 17:25:15
He certainly won’t get in whilst not playing for us when he could be - and I suspect that Alves knows that’s in the post.

21 Jan 2018 17:27:18
He won't get in it full stop. His distbution is very poor
When he has been fit I have not been overly
Impressed. for a big guy he lacked commitment
Give me John Brown over him any day of the week