Rangers Banter Archive May 21 2014

 

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21 May 2014 20:47:37
There is only one word to describe the whole scenario surrounding everything our club and that is FARCE. Our manager is a joke, the 'supposed' fan's representatives live on another planet, King has been a let down and the board are toothless. Probably my biggest irritation, at present, is why do people think if you buy a ticket for a game it entitles you to control what the owners do with the venue. I am sick of muppets trying to control our once great club. I will always be nostalgic about my club but the way things are going I am totally hissed off. I have tried to justify some of the recent events but, to be quite honest, I cannot even justify to myself. Enough is enough so, it is time to accept that at the end of the day it is only a game of football.

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Billy b that may be right but unless we do something ourselves it won't just be a game of football there will be no gameof football for rangers we all thought the spl could not survive without rangers they have and are probably doing better than ever because the prize money etc is going further down the league celtic champions league for the some time to come and if we don't get up off our arse we will end up like third lanark

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BILLYb. are we still meeting up for pint,,

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Yes Billyboy, hopefully I'm not going to disappear and the pint is still on as far as I'm concerned. True lbj d, but to be honest with you, I really have much more important things in my life and the 'rebels' deserve the legacy. My grandson plays with one of Ranger's youth teams, so, if I still want to see our team play, I'll go and watch him.

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Op I think you meant puppets trying to run our club

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21 May 2014 23:47:37
Gordon Durie - manager
Neil McCann - u20's coach
thoughts?

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Billyb I fear there will be no rangers youth teams or first teams

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Leeboy there's no point in putting our thoughts on here for anything about the backroom staff as the board will do f@kk all about the ones wee have, someone said on here that durranty was leaving for australia soon but I agree mcann would be a good addition but instead of mcdowall, as there's no system to our play as ally, s long ball game is pash, and he doesn't seem to tell ally its pash.

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No tmwnn, I intended to use the term ''muppets trying to control the club''. The board and ultimately the shareholders run the club and they have paid hard cash for that privilege. We might not like what they do, but as lbj d and others continually post the alternatives are to buy their controlling share or force the doors to close. In my opinion, if the doors close that will be the final nail. Rant over.

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22 May 2014 13:08:43
NEIL LENNON RESIGNS
HEGARTY RELEASED
all the best to the young ones in Hong Kong, but why the **** is Simmo over there?

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Billyb you say hard cash at a penny a share that's not hard cash these shareholders should have put in a lot more maybe if they had done so they wouldn't have the club in such a feckin mess money wise but if you chose to do as these greedy feckers want you to do they will all be buying stables in the south of france rant over

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@ billyb and tmwnn I agree with you both. We are arguing amongst ourselves but all we have done is keep the club alive. Unfortunately whilst doing that we have bought Green's mansion in France and that sticks in my craw.
But now we must buy the feckers out once and for all.
Lets get the club back. The King UOF route is wrong- buy them out it's the only way.
And bears they are the enemy - not us

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Yes 11] your probably correct, but I have to point out that £35.5m is no paltry sum. [ IPO--£22.2m @ 70pence per share and £13.3m pre IPO. ] Not as many 1p shares as you would think.
Outwith Green's gang, there must be a hell of a lot of dis-enchanted investors out there.
Attempting to co-ordinate this group would enable us to have a strong base from which to build, and hopefully influence control of our club.
Much better than taking the club to the brink.

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Billyb - I think you see the big picture a bit clearer now

Things are turning slowly, The next AGM is 6 months away but I won't be surprised if there is an EGM before that, as you say there must be lots of disenchanted shareholders out there

If ST numbers don't add up then the board may have no option but to turn to those disenchanted shareholders for more capital


JG

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Thanks for the endorsement, that I certainly don't need, but I see what Paulineblue means. You may be civil, as you say, but very, very smug. It is obvious why you rub a lot of posters the wrong way.
Just out of interest, could you tell me the logic of King buying Auchenhowie?
Seems DJ and you are as one on this idea.

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Billy aye yer right, I should just come on and copy and paste everything that's in the papers and rubbish all other posters

JG

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And I never said king should by auchenhowie

JG

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JG, @15] that is exactly what you do. You post in a manner that makes you act superior.
@16] principle is the same, Ibrox is just another asset.
Logic please for, us, mere mortals.

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Billy what are you havering about, I never said king should buy achenhowie or ibrox!! So I have no logic for it

Maybe he should buy a few million shares though

Jg

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JG, '' like Chelsea, why not buy buy the pitch'' ring any bells?
Your comment re King buying shares is more to the point, but he has made it clear that is not his intention.
In all honesty, review all your comments and if you are happy with them, fine. It is only opinions after all.

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Billy you read it wrong, I said follow the Chelsea example where the fans own the pitch, I never said anything about king buying ibrox

Jg

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21 May 2014 13:29:30
Does anyone know the latest figures for this years season tickets. The silence is deafening from Ibrox, I see Alastair is looking at an under 21 player freed by West Brom makes you laugh! I suppose he'll be looking at us and well be looking at him at Murray Park our yearly drivel saying, from our leader!

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Do you know how many have put money into the UOF fund or is their silence also deafening? Allen almost came to Ibrox before going to WBA because of the problems we were going through at the time. Did you renew your season ticket Bongo?

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21 May 2014 18:35:11
Does anyone know if Black has a 7 game suspension as of the start of next season because of the betting thing? Ed? plus if we sign Allan we'll release Hutton surely

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{Ed039's Note - He has a suspended suspension if that makes sense, and as far as I can remember, if he breaks the rules again then that suspension is automatic and probably some other sanctions)

Jyf I think you are ally's agent.

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No1 No to both your questions I'll pick my games this season you don't need to give your money to Dave King to make your protest.

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Why? I know people that have not renewed saying they are joining kings misguided scheme but I know NO ONE that has actually put a penny in. I'd say the bears that have renewed out number the schemers who have put hard cash into the bank by a large majority but we don't know because the UOF silence is deafening. Also OP doesn't even know who Allen is stating we are looking at an U21 player and slating Ally for the sake of it.

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21 May 2014 13:09:40
@ reality bites with your comment "mission to spend as much as the eastend lot" you can't be suggesting he has spent as much as them in transfer fees as to my mind we only paid for templeton & the rest have been free tranfers.
r. f

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You really are deluded, you know that's not what I meant.

What has ally done in management that has you so turned on.

Every year that man is in charge it will
Take 2 years to rectify.

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N1 aye and the rest

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21 May 2014 09:51:04
@ reality bites. I just believe given time to get back to the top he will prove himself to be a top manager, he has actually done what he was asked to do I. e win the last 2 titles in quick time although I'll give u not the prettiest football at times, his record has been improving, this season much better than last by going further in 2 cups & undefeated in the league, he has held the club together at times, the playing staff wage bill has actually been reduced and finally the playing staff wages budget is decided by the c. e. o not him
r. f

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You must be joking, he will never make a manager, he is just there for the money.

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To be honest we all hope there usa chance he will come good, BUT in my eyes he won't change. We have the 2nd highest wage bill but yet play like we have the second lowest.
If he had his wish our team would be the team we had right before admin.
And this mission where he has to spend as much as the eastend lot. That is why we folded last time. We haven't learnt a thing, it is so frustrating knowing we are back on the same path that leads to admin and most fans keep saying next year. Changes need to be made now.

Fan owned club
Ally sacked
All players told sign new lower contracts or leave.
Reduce non playing staff
We need this club run with brains not hearts.

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Mccoist is not a manager pure and simple lost us a big lead when we wer in spl coudnt get us threw in europe then couldn't even beat raith rovers in cup this seasean and numerous of other times he has failed he is the one that brough these players to the club so its up to him to make them perform and coach them and so far the players seem to have got worse that he has bought so I won't be getting to excited about any other signings this summer unless new manager and coaches in charge simply not good anuf

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Pity he has needed a wage bill of £6-£7m to achieve his goals! Pity he has been embarrassed in every cup competition his team has entered. Pity the team plays shocking football and hardly any young players are allowed near the team. The man will never make a manager and has become an embarrassment to the club and a joke among rival fans

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Much as we would like to see youngsters play for the first team but maybe they would go backwards playing under ally cause let's face it the current average players we use have gone backward under ally it would maybe set the youngsters backward playing allys negative style

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21 May 2014 21:36:44
@ r. f. "he has held the club together at times". Please specify when exactly? I'm guessing you must mean when he backed Green at the start. Not sure that counts as holding the club together given that Green has turned out to be such a mercenary toe rag that King's bunch now feels the need to aggressively "rebel"against him. Yeah really unifying that was, thanks Ally. That aside, please elaborate on how this manager who divides the fans more than any other I have known can possibly be said to have held us together as a club? Yer talkin utter p!$h man. Stop reading what his pals in the papers say and just think for yerself.

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Paulineblue72 I know you will be taken aback by this post from me but ime in total agreement with your post at n6

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22 May 2014 07:57:43
@7 almost choked on my cornflakes there, but glad to hear there is some unity at least :) Next we'll have JG (now that he's crawled out from the rock he's been hiding under since the 120 day review was published) admitting he was embarassingly wrong to argue that what's going on at ibrox is "normal business procedure". How many on here did he insult with his pretensions to superior business knowledge when they expressed concern about the possibility of admin2? Think he'll come on here with his red face and say sorry folks? Maybe not. Back to the cornflakes.

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R. f. I don't know if you are at the wind up (I sincerely hope you are). You cannot in all honesty believe Ally is a manager. his record in cups has not improved it's still 100% failure and his league record could have been achieved by trigger's brush. He had £825,000 reasons to "hold the club together at times" although now he is helping to divide the support by sitting on the fence.

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@8 its yourself and others like you that are causing the disunity amongst the fans, never once have you posted a positive post on here and some of your posts have been down right hostile and personal against our manager you seem to know what you don't like but but not what you do like and how to achieve it, and before you say sack the manager tell us how and who you would get in and have you any ideas as to how we can rid our selves of our real enemies, probably not.

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Pleasant Pauline - I don't think that is going to happen anytime soon.

Thanks for that wee mention and I see you are still your same positive upbeat self,

By the way is that sour milk you take on your cornflakes?

JG

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Pauline I posted much the same on the rumour page yesterday about jg now ime hoping your not copying my post lol lol

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22 May 2014 23:53:44
@11 JG I knew your ego couldn't resist being drawn in to this. Why are you back on here posting again. I mean feel free obviously, but do you honestly think you've got a shred of credibility left after your sudden wee holiday for a month starting the day the 120 day review was published - confirming what most us knew already ie your shrewd business mind is just a fantasy you like to tell to yourself. You got it horribly embarassingly wrong. And you know it. And so do we. Love the sour milk jibe, keep on trying you might crack a joke one day, or maybe even a smile?

@10 jyf if you think its me causing disunity you need to get away from the laptop a bit more. It doesn't all happen on here you know. And besides, plenty people agree with my posts, which are only ever taken as "hostile" to people like you snd jg who come on here hoping to get credit for preaching some empty arse hope

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23 May 2014 00:00:23
@12 didn't see your post about JG but glad you agree - the guy is only fooling himself. Also delighted we've been able to put aside our previous little spat (lets not mention £50m!) and have a wee laugh at ourselves - take note jyf and JG, see some people on here can take a bit of banter as much as dish it out.

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@13 Paulineblue72 infuriatingly for me I cannot disagree with a word you post. Are you my long lost twin sister that I never knew or are you just as mad and deluded as me?
JYF unless I am mistaken you are now in a very large minority causing the misunity you are blaming others for.
You have some like minded people in GDOG 2. 5 or whatever his name, Cooperboy and the rather ludicrous r. f and cass or bonbon but you quite simple are a deluded insignificant minority.
Ally's football is emptying Ibrox and he is as big a threat as the dodgy hedge fund rats and the sleazedales.
The only thing I agree with is King and the deluded unrepresentative UOF are a threat and unless we buy the city rats out we ain't got a future.
But I will only buy more shares if McCoist and his two other underperforming bods leave- without another single penny.
They are almost as responsible as the clowns on the board but King needs to pay his taxes and leave the fans to buy the club and support a new manager and young affordable football team.
As for JYF- the financial expert- you focus on Africa mate you ain't got a clue about Scotland and football business over here.

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23 May 2014 08:15:14
@15 pretty sure I don't have a twin so I guess it must be the mad and deluded option.

OP r. f. we're all still waiting for you to elaborate on the claim you started this thread with - exactly when has McCoist "held the club together at times"? Please give us some examples.

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@16 you can talk! You never answered any of the questions put to you. I can assure you I don't post on here to get "credit. " I would have been gone long ago but refuse to give in and hand this site over to, basically, anti Rangers sentiments.
@15 I'm no financial expert and don't know the answer to Africa's problems but I do know it's not Allys fault!
Pauline, I don't believe you even eat corn flakes for breakfast, more like raw meat.

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24 May 2014 20:15:26
@17 jyf the difference is I'm asking r. f. to explain a specific claim he made - his ludicrous claim that mccoist has "held this club together at times". I've never made any claim to know how to sort our mess out so why should I respond to you suddenly demanding I come up with answers to that? Just because you don't like what I said about something else? And can you please give one single example of anything i've ever posted that could be classed as "anti rangers sentiments". You accuse me of being divisive, then you go and exclude me into a lesser class of fan. that's what you call hypocrisy, think about it.

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@18 I don't believe there is such a thing as "a lesser class of fan" just as there is no such thing as a super fan, if you go along to Ibrox to support Rangers then you are a Rangers fan.
Allys an easy target here and if he were to be sacked who would come in? I just don't believe that if we replaced him with, say, Mcinnes that he would then reduce the wage bill by replacing the seasoned pros with youths then getting us promoted, I think any new manager would want money to bring in his own players especially if it were to be mcleash. Our real enemies lie in the board room but they are a far harder target to hit.

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