Rangers Banter Archive February 22 2015

 

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22 Feb 2015 18:59:31
Anybody now the score with the young team today at Ibrox

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{Ed039's Note - Finished 0-0, Rangers won 3-2 on penalties)

22 Feb 2015 15:37:04
It really frustrates me to see collymore singling out Rangers and putting them in the same bracket as Chelsea when a clip of a racist Chelsea fan is shown. And it's good that he was sacked due to this. But for rangers fans to then go and sing sectarian songs on Friday was embarrassing.

Obviously the divide between Celtic and rangers is a religious divide between Catholic and protestant. But I wonder how many of these fans who sing these sectarian songs actually understand what they are singing about and are 'religious'.

Personally I am not religious in any way and don't sing those type of songs.

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Went to a non catholic school in Drum chapel, and at Least 10 out of class of 30 were Celtic fans. not a religious thing then, but Celtic in particular have become far more politicised over last 15 years than they were in 70/80 's If anything, I think they have become more entrenched in the Irish thing than they ever were.

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CB it's time we binned these songs. We all grew up singing them . We all grew up watching 70s racist TV. It does not have a place in our society any more .Let's all agree that the vast majority of the Bears don't want them.We need to weed out the head cases that are and will continue to damage our club.

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{Ed039's Note - agreed)

22 Feb 2015 19:26:54
Lain I doesn't matter about that other club it only matters about us ocrsc 100% correct

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22 Feb 2015 19:45:30
we have to accept we have a bad element among our away fans, as do celtic, Rangers don't seem to get away with anything so it is something we must accept, the people on friday are braindead, as are the GB, we should ask the police to take more action against fans singing these songs, I myself did on occasion when younger, and my wife is catholic, as are my best pals, some of our fans seem to think we have a connection to Chelsea? rubbish, were was chelseas help when Rangers were going under? ask yourself? do you honestly think Chelsea fans could give a damn about a scottish club? NO

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22 Feb 2015 19:53:42
just one other thing that may be nonsense,
someone mentioned earler that these songs seem to have made a "comeback" since Rangers were demoted, to the lower leagues, during this period we have played at small outposts, some of which are stuck in a timewarp, its only a theory but I suspect a lot of our "fans" at these games are Gers fans who are local to that area, or roundabouts, and sing these songs every weekend when pissed? or even in their local Gers clubs or pubs with no objection from anyone, sort of like they don't realise we have moved on, my thoughts on this stem from the fact we get very little sectarian songs at Ibrox,? I maybe spouting a lot of sxxxe but I think there is some substance to it?

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{Ed039's Note - I personally do think you are spouting a bit of sxxxe as you put it there tommy, the element has nothing to do with Geographical location or fans from the deepest farthest corners of the country, it is a consistent element that needs to be eradicated sooner rather than later)

Tommy51
I agree with you about the Rangers/Chelsea thing, I personally couldn't care less about Chelsea or any other team other than Glasgow Rangers, I've attended games all over Europe watching other teams but only as a neutral and for the experience of visiting different stadiums etc, but I would never wear a scarf of any other team (other than my country).I can never really understand people who support two teams.

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22 Feb 2015 20:35:33
actually I feel Chelsea are the most arrogant and undisciplined club in Britain, and as for their manager? well,,, I do like watching arsenal but i'm the same as you rangers forever, sorry Ed, was just a thought

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{Ed039's Note - I know it was mate, its just not a thought I can agree with, I am sure if someone was do a bit more research it might be found out that it is the same lot over and again .......... I am not saying some people float in and out of it, but there is an element that seem happy to be in on it and continue to do so and I do not like that one bit)

22 Feb 2015 20:48:48
Whatever collymore says the fans walked into it on Friday night by singing the sort of songs he was on about!the man is a fud but at the end of the day all the fans done was back up his arguement only have themselves to blame for being reported!

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There's no harm in liking watching other teams, I love watching all games, i'd just never support another team. .ps I also like watching Arsenal(great footballing team).

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23 Feb 2015 01:16:20
I personally don't sing these songs but don't believe that they acutally hurt anyone and are not aimmed to do so. I personally feel they are no more than a bit of banter and that the UK has gone "PC" daft. Can anyone honestly say that they have been hurt (emotionally) by someone singing a stupid song? Because its been deemed illegal by a bunch of upstanding msp's I would never encourage anyone to do sing said songs, I'm just playing devils advocate here lol

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Simple ban every fan caught singing those songs or shouting sectarian abuse and this should come from the sfa and it should be the same at every club. But if rangers get bulled like they should get for this a certain other club can't be far behind in a few sanctions.

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23 Feb 2015 09:41:17
I also don't condone these sort of songs but as far as I can see the use of the word fenian is not illegal in this country and is used in titles of songs & books to glorify the men who fought in Irish battles its also used in in describing some Irish political parties .
r.f

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{Ed001's Note - it does depend on how it is used, like calling someone black is not derogatory in itself, but if you follow it with a profanity then it would be an issue. Same with the word fenian, it is how it is used that is the problem.}

23 Feb 2015 10:47:24
My point is that when u take it at face value they sing songs glorifying the bold fenian men and some like to portray themselves as this and its taken as political but when used at a Rangers match to describe defeating the same men it becomes offensive and sectarian . Seems one rule for some and surely the word blood can't be described as a profanity. I also repeat these song should not be sung but it seems our club is the one that seems to get pulled more than "others"
r.f

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{Ed001's Note - I think you are missing the point, to glorify in the slaughter of others is hardly ok is it? You are just looking for excuses, which is why the problem persists, the likes of you are more of an issue than anyone. Stop making excuses and just stamp it out.}

22 Feb 2015 13:40:31
cant help cringing a bit over this sectarian business. Do any bigots out there not realise that back in the 80's/90's time there were a few old firm games where Rangers fielded more catholic players than Celtic, but the singing didn't stop??
C'mon, its a game, a sport, and ALL sport should have no time for racial or religious bigotry.
If any factions start up the party songs during a game, the people in charge of the music upstairs should BLAST very loud music or noises to drown it out. Sad for the decent fans, but what other choices are there?

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Don't know what the answer is Wee Bill but agree with you totally there is no room in any sport for bigotry or racism it's 2015 now the dark ages have long gone

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22 Feb 2015 15:20:29
well said, everybody who speaks out on this subject should be both congratulated and supported

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Well said Wee Bill and a very valid point. It's a bit like those Chelsea clowns on the Paris Metro, got a feeling Drogba would have been welcomed with open arms.

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22 Feb 2015 09:51:41
Rangers caretaker manager kenny mcdowall has stated this morning that he's totally burnt out and badly needs a break, he also goes on to say that he doesn't know if he'll still be in charge when the play offs come along and has urged all his players to play as if their lives depended on it as the next rangers manager is watching them, I wonder who our new manager is going to be and the change will probably come very soon after our egm, a wee observation I've seen regularly is taking on board mcdowall's statement of the new manager is watching billy davies & stuart mccall are very regular attenders at ibrox for our games, I wonder or am I reading too much into this

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22 Feb 2015 13:33:24
The reason mccall is at so many matches is because he works for bt sports who have covered rangers last 2 matches

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Hooly 78, I've also seen stuart mccall going into the ibrox front doors at non bt sports games, there is a multitude of rumours doing the rounds over the last 2 days that mark warburton & davie weir of brentford are going to be the next rangers management duo with felix magath our new technical director, I would be very pleased with these appointments!

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22 Feb 2015 14:27:00
I just can't see that happening, he is being linked with Qpr and Fulham jobs

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Who do you think has put all this in place because we have to get this EGM out the way first before we can even think about naming a new management team

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OP

I agree that Billy Davies (good Rangers Man from Pollok) would be the best man for the job.

He was interviewed by Sky Sports when he was in charge of Notts Forrest. He was asked if he would take the Celtic job, which he politely refused. When asked about the Rangers job he said that would be the highlight of his career and an honour to do.
I think he would come to Ibrox in a heartbeat, and would be a fantastic appointment.

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{Ed001's Note - you know he has, erm, off field issues which led to his firing by Forest don't you? I am not talking about the swinging either.}

22 Feb 2015 14:58:29
I personally feel that the appointment of a new manager immediately following the EGM would be a folly we might regret soon afterwards.
As far as I am concerned I would rather see the appointment of someone to take us to the end of the season --Walter Smith would be my choice --- someone who knows exactly what is going on and would have a really good shot at taking us back to the SPL.
I am sure that many of you other bears have varying opinions on this but we must surely be very careful on our next decisions.

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Ed

I have not heard anything about Billy Davies apart from the swinging thing, but hey someone joining Rangers with issues? now that would be first - lol.

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{Ed001's Note - not the kind of issues you would want, but they do explain his irrational, erratic behaviour.}

I dread Davies coming and what odds would be against him brining his best buddy Dalziel with him. I cringe at the thought of that pairing

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22 Feb 2015 17:17:16
Any pairing would be better than the mccoist and mcdowall double act

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I have posted for a very long time about b illy davis some posters wonder if d king is a fit and proper person well believe me billy davis is not a fit and proper person to manage rangers ed seems to know about his past and his advice is 100% correct b davis no butcher no

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22 Feb 2015 20:52:40
Billy Davies not for me ever!i can't see the mark warburton thing having any legs but the man has worked wonders down South with brentford would be decent but find it highly unlikely

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Ok big wull, fair enough, so my question to you mate is who do you want as the next rangers manager?

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22 Feb 2015 21:42:33
Jr tennent you seem to hear a lot of rumours in your past posts you have linked mccall, Warburton, cathro, davies, weir and also you said murray and gilligan said they wanted mcinnes! I have no reason to doubt you as I don't know you but where do you get your information from, for the record I'd go for mcinnes and Felix megath as technical director/director of football

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Hooly 78, like a lot of rangers fans I go everywhere to see & support glasgow rangers and I do hear many rumours and all I'm doing is sharing them with all 'gers fans mate, my own choice as I've always said would be billy davies but if he has personal issues as some other posters have stated my choice for our next manager would be ian cathro as manager/head coach with felix magath as technical director, so there you have it my friend

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Hooly

Yes I noticed that I think jr is getting his info by sticking the names up on the wall shutting his eyes and sticking a pin in them lolol

A different manager every few days, maybe he is making sure he can say I TOLD YOU SO

i am george

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Would rather see Danny Lennon than Billy Davies.

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Jr iwould like any of the following d mcinnes s macoll warburton alex neil and to give time to get the right man in I would appoint jimmy calderwood till the end of the season

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BIG WULL, I wouldn't mind at all if jimmy calderwood was appointed our caretaker manager until the end of the season and that would allow us the time to either appoint ian cathro or mark warburton as the new rangers manager at the end of the season, if billy davies has personal issues then I wouldn't appoint him as it would be too risky although he was my original no.1 choice!

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