Rangers Banter Archive June 22 2011

 

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22 Jun 2011 23:31:54
According to the bbc website, David Goodwillie is about to appear in court over a crime and could face a jail sentence.......could this effect the Rangers bid?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-13883757

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I don't think it would be proper to sign a man accused/charged of rape

{Ed021's Note - It's a charge for a serious assault that happened in Glasgow City Centre last November.

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The point still stands does it not? {Ed021's Note - yes, your opinion does still stand about accusations / charges pertaining to the serious crime of rape.

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22 Jun 2011 23:28:49
Arsenal preparing a £12 million pound offer for Big Allan McGregor. I think that would be too good to turn down, Alexander would be a decent replacement and it would free some cash up for Ally to strengthen other areas.

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22 Jun 2011 23:24:45
Maybe Goodwillie wont sign after all

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-13883757

the new big dunc ?

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Absolutley no comparison with Dunc either in playing style or type of charges.

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22 Jun 2011 23:12:52
Goodwillie to be charged with serious assualt in Glasgow dating back to November...no looking good to sign him...

Budge {Ed021's Note - confirmed on BBC tonight.

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22 Jun 2011 22:56:05
We should try and sign David goodwillie, Murray davidson and Chris humphreys three good young players with bright futures

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22 Jun 2011 22:04:15
I think that if we buy lee wallace we could maybe play him as a left mid. My reason for this is that papac has been very consistent and is probably better defensively than wallace. Also he has a great delivery and is great going forward and it would give wylde and sasa competition. Saying that, i believe that when sasa leaves next season we would have a ready made replacement.

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22 Jun 2011 22:34:38
now that it appears that we will sign wallace, do you fellow bears think papac will now be played at cb.
this would leave next years back four looking something like this

wallace - cuellar/papac - bougherra - whittaker

i would say this looks pretty promising and could be further improved with the loan signing of either bartley or wilson.

what do you guys think, best defensive back four for the last couple of years?

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22 Jun 2011 22:31:46
why sign wallace hes not any better than papac or broadfoot really starting too worry about this new rangers regime

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22 Jun 2011 22:31:23
this is lies, Gibson is a Celtic fan. he refused to play for northern ireland even though he is from the north, this is because his whole family are republic and celtic fans. he give his allegiance to the republic of ireland even though he probably wont ever get a game for them. i am from Londonderry and i know this is a fact
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SORRY NOT A FACT AT ALL

Gibson did choose to play for the rep or ireland but what does that go for , He is also an irish nationalist - The fact is gibson him self has never said he supports rangers or he supports celtic or anyone else for that matter. He choose to play for rep ireland because he felt he would acheive more in international football

So just because you are from londonderry does mean anything is fact except you are from londonderry - that is the only fact

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I understand your logic but I'm getting the impression you are being awkward for the sake of it. Gibson is most certainly NOT a Rangers man and this is a widely noted fact.

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For f*cks sake, who gives a f*ck where he was born or who he supports? Move on people this isn't 1690 it's 2011! Even the fact that we still discuss this sh*t annoys me! it's part of our history, lets leave it there. Slavery is part of our history too, maybe Edu should be drivin miss Daisy eh....ignorant fools stop our club progressing to where it should be. Need I remind you of Hugh O'Neil, John Spencer, Maurice Johnston and Lorenzo Amoruso to name but a few. Or should we all go back to the sentiments of David Miller in 89' and remain bogged down in history. Onwards and upwards! Follow with pride

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22 Jun 2011 22:30:34
Not a rumour just a thought , we are trying to get Goodwillie and prob another forward , I think once we get Goodwillie we should wait and see how Beattie is pre season and also sign Healy , even on 6 month contract , to see how the both are after a full pre season , which neither got last year , it's worth a punt rather than buying in some player we have never heard of who might not settle.Any thoughts , as both are proven in the EPL ??? {Ed021's Note - get a good pre season under Beattie and you never know. Healy is a different story though.

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Not suggesting Beattie and Healey are loyal hard working players, but for same kind of money i think we could get Nugent and i know which i would rather have

{Ed021's Note - been posts about Nugent tonight and his name seems to be gathering pace.

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Nugent again ? , Eagles has also been mentioned on here too, please let's not go back to rubbish who have kncked us back and should be offered nothing but sympathy for making a stupid mistake by knocking us back, so GTF both of them.

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22 Jun 2011 22:30:03
rangers to sign goodwillie from dundee united for 1.5 million and give dundee utd fleck on loan for a season

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That would be a good deal for us cause flecks not lived up to expectation.maybe a year on loan to get first team action would benefit us for next season

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22 Jun 2011 22:28:25
starting to worry about the new rangers regime players being linked with us on this site are a joke if we cant compete with cardiff real mallorca and celtic what chance have we got to get some of the guys were being linked with on here .

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22 Jun 2011 22:27:54
22 Jun 2011 18:08:00
Hamed was never going to be a first team player!!! Conway was never offered a deal!!! Goodwillie will sign but Whyte is obviously going to try and get him at1m if possible! Dont panic guys!!!

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Nonsense Conway was 100% offered a deal and Rangers quibbled over £1000 a week

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Conway was not offered a deal, check the bbc website if you want it confirmed

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22 Jun 2011 22:20:21
I met John Fleck in Frasers in Glasgow and he's been to see McCoist before Ally went on holiday and has been told this is his year to prove all doubters wrong. Fleck has been working hard in pre season on his own and looks to have lost weight. Watch the wee man go, gonna be a star for club and country!

{Ed021's Note - Big season for him.

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Anyone else actually think we should be sending him out on loan?

GovanFR

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Hope so, because if we are honest from being what looked like an absolute stick out he has become ordinary AT BEST.

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I agree. Fleck has disappointed since his hyped arrival. He did nothing to impress me in any of his appearances last season, and I feel that in terms of genuine quality and a future Scotland International regular, he has fallen behind Ness, Wylde and Hutton.

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I think a loan could be beneficial to him providing it's to a decent club who plays football on the ground. His development has stalled when you think back to what we seen of him at 16/17 he looked like he would end up one of the best in Britain! Still only 19 and won't have lost the ability. Needs regular football and confidence to build, then he will become a star. In a weird way, it could all work in his favour as people have now lowered expectations.

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Too much pressure to early. I think a wee loan season would do him the world of good. Are we not trying to use him as a makeweight in the Goodwillie deal or did I imagine that?

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22 Jun 2011 22:18:32
Jaime Navarro having trials at Kilmarnock and Leyton Orient? doesnt sound good enough for Rangers if you ask me

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22 Jun 2011 22:17:13
gers fan trying to remain calm with the fact players want to sign for diddy teams like cardif and mallorka before rangers but if celtic sign neill danns il be ripping with the new chairman. if goodwillie is to expensive fair enough but hemed, conway and danns are all bosmans and well worth a punt. agree/disagree?.

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What makes you think Danns is the real thing, had you ever heard of him a month ago.,

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Yes! danns would bring energy to the midfield and hes strong with a good touch and can pick out a pass to be honest id prefer a flair player to help davies push forward but danns wont cost anything so is well worth a punt in my oppinion.

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22 Jun 2011 21:54:49
People need to stop jumping on the "Craig Whyte has no money" bandwagon! He is doing what any good business man would do, he is bargaining to get the best deal possible. That's what's got him into the position of being Scotland's youngest self made BILLIONAIRE! Give the guy a chance.

PS David Goodwillie WILL sign and will wear the number 9 jersey at Rangers next season and for many years to come!

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Whyte and billionare should not be named in the same sentence hes worth an estimated 200 million.

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22 Jun 2011 21:51:47
Who dyou think is better at left back, lee Wallace or sasa papac

Wallace/ believable. Papac/ unbelievable

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I think Papac will be first choice LB, Wallace is still relatively young and in all likeliness will be second choice but first choice the season after.

GovabFR

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Really do not want to knock Papac, think he has been a great buy and has done a great job for us, rate him so highly, but things move on and as far as SPL concerned think Wallace [if fit] really looks the part.Annoyed i said that as Papac has been a true professional doing great job with no external issues unlike many.

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Erm? papac is a centre half maby he should get a game in centre defence and we should buy a left back

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22 Jun 2011 21:42:44
By rangers signing wallace , , , i think ally will be looking to play papac in at cb with possibly cuellar if boughy leaves

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22 Jun 2011 21:39:39
to theguy who said this-22 Jun 2011 12:21:26
this is lies, Gibson is a Celtic fan. he refused to play for northern ireland even though he is from the north, this is because his whole family are republic and celtic fans. he give his allegiance to the republic of ireland even though he probably wont ever get a game for them. i am from Londonderry and i know this is a fact. Now mate im a gers man but gibson is a very good player and he will play many games for r ireland you are blinded by bigotry...*ksd*

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I agree, half the folk spouting Catholic this and Protestant that have no idea what they're talking about. I want decent players regardless of where they're born, what religion they are etc. It's easy to sit here in scotland talkin that sh*t but not so easy when you live in east belfast with the threat of being caught up in the troubles.

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22 Jun 2011 21:30:43
Culluar is in talks over a 2 and a half million switch to gers my source is that i know john fleck and the goodwillie deal is a certainty as john is going to dundee on season long loan {Ed021's Note - You mean Dundee Utd. Could be a possibility though. Is David Goodwillie not still in Ayia Napa and due back on Tayside on Monday 27th?

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Your source spelt Cuellar wrong too. {Ed021's Note - come on. Easy mistake.

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DU resumed training earlier this week {Ed021's Note - agreed but Goodwillie is not due back till Monday.

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I very much doubt Fleck will be loaned out.

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Goodie was on tv today sky sports news training with the squad my friends !

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22 Jun 2011 21:27:19
Bid launched for Wallace

Great piece a business if we get him papac is steady at the back but doesnt offer much attacking threat wallace can defend and go forward and is at a decent age as well !!!


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22 Jun 2011 21:18:43
craig whyte spotted at govan post office rumoured to be signin for his bru money

{Ed021's Note - Last post re Craig Whyte please. Refer to my previous post. Cheers.

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Give whyte a chance the guy has promised money will be spent. I like the fact he won't be held to ransom and pay way over the odds. Unlike last board that had the club on it's knees. {Ed021's Note - Good post. Early days.

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Thanks ed for posting my previous post about giving whyte a chance. What do u think the chances of getting the cuellar deal over the line. Would b great to have him back {Ed021's Note - you are more than welcome. I am positive about Carlos's return but depends on Big Eck.

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I agree. Whyte seems to be a bit like, dare I say it, Fergus McCann. He will not be drawn into paying excessive money for mediocrity. Danns was unheard of prior to a few weeks ago, I hear rumours that Kris Boyd is a target too. Dear God! Think about this rationally, fellow rangers fans; Jelavic showed in half a season, and not even fully fit, just how much better all round than Kris Boyd ever was. We need more players of the quality of Jelavic than that of Kris Boyd. We got a bargain with Jelavic, and rangers WILL be looking at others of the ilk. Be patient, give the management team and new owners a chance. Thanks.

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22 Jun 2011 21:16:50
craig whyte , penny pinching property developer??

{Ed021's Note - Chaps, no more posts about Craig Whyte please. Early days. The transfer window has only been open for a short period of time remember, so there is plenty of time to improve our squad. Things will be going on that some of us are not privy to. Cheers.

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22 Jun 2011 18:42:39
alright ed, just say on SSP rangers made an offer for cuellar.. can you tell us of any other players we are intreseted in and/or close to signing? {Ed021's Note - Craig Whyte confirmed this in the interviews that appeared in most newspapers today. We have bidded for Lee Wallace, talks with Neil Danns and a tentative enquiry for David Goodwillie too. Watch this space.

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I hate people who say watch this space after there post's like what they have to say is gospel and the only rumour likely to happen in the world so sshhhh shut your face!!! *ksd*

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Heers ed, also heard lennon might be in for danns, whats your take on this? {Ed021's Note - yeah, someone posted that last night and it was on the Daily Mirror's website. However, I have seen nothing today in the Scottish press to indicate this.

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I hate disrespectful people {Ed021's Note - no abuse please ksd or your info won't get posted.

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22 Jun 2011 21:08:24
22 Jun 2011 20:46:33
A good mate of mine who plays down south for sheffield utd told me Rangers are interested in Snodgrass. {Ed021's Note - Depends how much Leeds value him at. Ed021.

Cant see it happening , they are talking 5 mil for him

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Not a chance wont pay 2 million for goowillie 19 goals lastseason and young player of the year, snodgrass wont leave for less than 4 million!!!!!

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22 Jun 2011 21:01:09
Would luv to see Cuellar back at Rangers..only thing that worries me is that he won't be ready to play until Sept/Oct time! call me mad but i like the idea of having Berra/Bartley central defence with Papac as cover if Wallace signs.. {Ed021's Note - Can't see Berra coming back to Scotland. Papac has been one of the steadiest performers for us and the only remaining buy from the Paul Le Guen era. Does nothing fancy and keeps is simple. Casper will remain the 1st choice left back.

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I would call u crazy because berra is HONKING and playin him with young bartley would be daft not enough experience, whitty weir cuellar papac would be solid.. maybe change weir for a new cb.....

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22 Jun 2011 17:32:31
Although I'm disappointed we didn't get Conway I feel that there will be players as good, and better, if we wait for prem teams to make signings and pick their squads. Take Weiss for example, Man City are constantly being linked with Alexis Sanchez and Jaun Mata so say they sign one of them surely that pushes Weiss down the pecking order! sane with Bartley if Arsenal get the rumoured Cahill and/or Samba. Just 2 examples of the situation which will occur at every club in the EPL. Goodwillie is a must for me, even at £2m he is a bright young Scottish prospect who will score goals and cause any defence problem. Loan deals are however the way we will have to go until the books are not just balanced, but tipped in our favour!

Your opinions ed?

BordersBear!

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22 Jun 2011 13:28:05
One here for you ED. I've copied the story

Gunners boss Arsene Wenger is in the market for an experienced keeper, and sees the Scotland number one as the ideal solution to his problem position.

The Frenchmans repeated failure to buy an assured stopper has partly contributed to the clubs six-year trophy drought, with Manuel Almunia and Wojciech Szczesny less than convincing between the sticks.

Wenger is now prepared to test Rangers owner Craig Whytes resolve with a 12million bid for the 29-year-old.

New Aston Villa manager Alex McLeish is also said to be interested in McGregor, and could offer his old club Carlos Cuellar as part of a deal.

But Whyte told the Daily Record: "I've said that McGregor is not for sale. We haven't been approached by anyone about him so far.

"As far as Cuellar is concerned we have made a formal offer. We are actively discussing it."

Whyte confirmed his intention to bolster the squad, adding: "We would like to get some signings in as soon as possible but don't want to bring in the wrong players. {Ed021's Note - Tricky one for Arsenal as they haven't really replaced David Seaman. Yes, there have been class goalkeepers come in but it is difficult for continuity - something Arsenal had for years previously with their goalie and defence. I don't know about Big Eck and Aston Villa to be honest. I personally think he will move for Ben Foster from his old club. Cheers

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22 Jun 2011 10:16:40
Ed, whit the !!!! is going on? we can't get Hemed, or Conway, but someone is making mischief by suggesting Royston Drenthe, banter is banter but ffs KEEP IT REAL------ ish ! C'Mon Ally 4narrow sign som knut {Ed021's Note - Good times will continue my friend. Please do not fret.

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22 Jun 2011 19:18:08
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22 Jun 2011 18:28:29
Herer is the £12 million Allan mcgregor to arsenal story:

www.fanatix.com/arsenal-ready-12m-bid-for-proven-stopper/

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This could be true. Arsenal were reported to be interested in January this year.

Nothing on Arsenal's website though..

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22 Jun 2011 19:15:29
Rangers in for Wallace. An offer of about £300,000

bbc web site {Ed021's Note - Chaps, I will end this thread re Lee Wallace. Rangers have bidded for him and this has been confirmed. Ball is now in Hearts court. Cheers.

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22 Jun 2011 20:43:39
Wallace from hearts wages around 5-6k again , papac is good enough in there! Cuellar interesting sunderland/stoke/Wba so we can forget that with the wages down there.......
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Papac is not good enough? The most consistent LB in the country his timing of challenges are 2nd to none.

I would just wait till next season to get wallace. Free transfer and enough time to see if his injury doesnt come back

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Izzy is the most consistent left back in Scotland! In fact I'll go further than that he's 1 of the best left backs in Britain! Easy :-)

{Ed021's Note - steady boys!! Both consistent football players.

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22 Jun 2011 20:40:11
rangers have bid 300k for hearts lee wallace and although it will be rejected around 500k should seal the deal. also expect goodwillie deal to go through as well as cuellar and bartley. still feel we need a central midfielder and a winger if we are to seal title number 55. any suggestions as to who that may be?

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22 Jun 2011 20:38:05
rangers 2nite have put 2 bids in for carlos cuellar (dont no how much) and lee wallace for around £300,000.i think if gers can get both these players it would be a great deals. But what i dont understand in whyte came out and said he would give gers 10m-12m to spend on players this season and is saying 2million for goodwillie is "to steep" and rejecting tht amount of money to spend. i dont see how that makes any sence as goodwillie is the brightest young talent in scotland and for a price of 2million and a chance to get years out of him or even selling him on for alot more lets hope we get the quality in we need

Rhysrfc {Ed021's Note - Both bids confirmed. Ed021.

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22 Jun 2011 20:32:31
Team for next season

GK- A. McGregor (possibly) if not C.Bell
RB- S. Whittaker
CB- S. Papac
CB- C. Cuellar
LB- L. Wallace
RM- S.Naismith
CM- S. Davis
CM- L. McCulloch
LM- (New, not yet known, signing)
ST-D. Goodwillie
ST-N. Jelavic

GK- N. Alexander
CB- D.Wilson (Loan CB )
RB- K. Broadfoot
LM- G. Wylde
CM- J.Ness
ST- K. Lafferty
ST- (Loan ST)

Ins

GK:possibly C.Bell if Rangers are offered ridiculous sum for McGregor

CB: Loan (D.Wilson possibly K. Bartley) IMO Bartley is better

LB: L. Wallace

LM: Unknown, C. Conway looked certain, wasn't to be, names will be tossed around for a few weeks although I am certain Ally has somebody in Mind.

ST: D.Goodwillie

St: Loan (maybe A.Smith)

Outs

CM: Maurice Edu, didn't have much to do when surrounded by good players (Mendes, Ferguson, Davis and McCulloch) has had a disgusting season. For me dead wood.

ST: James Beattie, Ally will judge him from his pre- season work ethic although honestly cant see him playong for us next season.

Edinburgh Bear

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If Papac was is good enough why was he not playing at centre back last season when we had injurys their? Walter and Ally put Whittaker at CB.
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Only thing wrong with this is lafferty he proven he good up front with jelavic so i suspect ally will give them a chance but that only my opinion big rab by the way

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22 Jun 2011 20:26:56
Could papac be a centre back next season if we get Wallace. After all he was signed as one.

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{Ed021's Note - Yes, played centre back when he first arrived and apparently done so with his previous club. Ed 021.

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Papac suffered a major head injury in car crash years ago and is at left back as any head knock can mean take longer to recover so i dont see him as pemanent CB correct me if iam wrong ed

{Ed021's Note - I don't this is the case as if it was, he wouldn't be playing - regardless of position. I get your point though.

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Papac is usless in the air much better lb davie weir will still do the job...

{Ed021's Note - chaps, apologies. My last post looked like i disputed the fact that casper had a serious car crash. Not the case I am totally aware of this.

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22 Jun 2011 20:26:45
to the guy who said papac is good enough at left back your correct but what is happening with davie weir maybe SUPER ALLY will put papac at left centre back his preferred position.

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22 Jun 2011 20:25:56
If Arsenal or anyone did offer £12 million for McGregor I hope it would be accepted. He is a great keeper, but with that sort of money we could sign three or four top quality outfield players.

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22 Jun 2011 20:00:30
with wallace a pottential left bk signing... i take it wer planning to use papac as a cb! this is a gd move as he is great defencivly! but offers nowt in attack lol anyone else have thoughts on this?

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He offers a lot in attack and as a defender.In fact could play as a left sided C.B.But right now he is a left back.And I would have him any day, over the Honduran at Ceptic park.He is only 22, and is going to get better and better.He reminds me of a young David Robertson.High praise cos he was some player at full back.

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22 Jun 2011 19:52:11
22 Jun 2011 18:21:02
Rangers have made a bid for lee wallace from hearts.

news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/13875645.stm?

When will the manky mob make their move ????

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22 Jun 2011 20:48:12
My realistic Gers XI for next season:

Alexander
Whitty Bartley Cuellar Papac
Naismith Davis Lansbury Weiss
Jelavic Goodwille

Bartley & Lansbury in as part of McGregor to Arsenal deal, would look for £9m cash aswell

Weiss in on a permanent deal, possibly £3.5m with add-ons

Goodwillie for £1.5 - £2m

Another couple signed up for bench and I feel that it would be enough to win SPL.

By the way - Lansbury is a brilliant player and perfect partner for Davis. Wenger just doesn't seem to fancy him in the arsenal team!

Any agree or otherwise. Leave comment.

BordersBear

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Need a right midfielder as naisy cannot play that position , he needs to play in the middle as he has shown this year compared to the times he played wide right and wide left

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22 Jun 2011 19:07:13
sky sports reporting that C.Whyte says greegs is NOT for sale, good man !

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Its only a messege to pottential suiters that its gonna take a huge bid! whytes a smart man! el habsi joined wigan for 4 mill.. now he cudnt lace mcgregers boots! so wudmt expect mcgreger to leave for under 12 mill.. such as the inflated market!

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22 Jun 2011 18:55:09
12m is alot money for rangers to put towards other players and wages so would not be to bad if mcgregor left potentially get more than 12m, hope mcgregor dosent go but if offered 15m would say yes.

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22 Jun 2011 18:55:07
Comon Mr Whyte pull ur finger out ur ass and give Ally the cash he needs! Don't care about Conway and Hamed or Danns... But Goodwillie is a must 2 million well spent i say

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22 Jun 2011 18:53:37
feel that even though wyhte said that mcgregor wasnt for sale but if he was to be offered around 16m or at least bartley and maybe other potential loan targets feel that alot of rangers fans would approve of the move.

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22 Jun 2011 18:49:06
I personally think we should cash on on boughy and invest the money back into younger players like bartley, weiss on perm transfers not loans, we need to build a young team and not waste the money on aging players who will be good for a season or 2 them need replaced, young talented players along with our Murray park youngsters is the way forward!

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Good point< and you can add Goodwillie to that. Also will Fleck be moved on though? maybe as a tempter for the Wallace deal ?

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22 Jun 2011 18:46:28
Alan Smith to Rangers?! Thought he was going back to Leeds! I appreciate you have Champions League football potentially but I obviously hope it's rubbish!

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22 Jun 2011 18:36:25
Wallace (left) is back in pre-season training with Hearts
Hearts have confirmed that they have received a bid from Rangers for Scotland full-back Lee Wallace.
The 23-year-old has been at Tynecastle since 2004, has made 140 appearances for the club and was vice-captain to Marius Zaliukas last season.
Wallace, who has been capped five times for Scotland, has 12 months left on his deal at Tynecastle.
An Ibrox source also confirmed that Wallace is a player in which they are interested.
More to follow...

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22 Jun 2011 18:34:08
Looks like Gibson has joined Sunderland according to most recent twitter updates

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22 Jun 2011 18:31:24
rangers bid for lee wallace go and get goodwillie 2 and we will be on our way to 4 in a row

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22 Jun 2011 18:29:27
BBC Sport - Rangers bid for Hearts full-back Lee Wallace
news.bbc.co.uk
Rangers table an offer for Scotland left-back Lee Wallace, according to current club Hearts.

better than papac in my opinion

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22 Jun 2011 18:28:52
jst been on stv news that rangers have made a bid for lee wallace of hearts ryte at the end of the sport any1 else hear this and what do u think of wallace

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22 Jun 2011 18:21:02
Rangers have made a bid for lee wallace from hearts.

news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/13875645.stm?

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22 Jun 2011 18:19:57
Rangers confirm bid for Cuellar. Any ideas on what the fee could be? WATP
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I think probably around 2.5 milion but 3 at the most
My team for next year would be
Mcgregor
Whittaker Cuellar Papac
Bartley
Davis Danns
Naismith Weiss
Goodwillie
Jelavic

Would cost at the most for all of these players

Cuellar 3m
bartley 2m
danns free
weiss 3.5-4m
goodwillie 2m
overall 11m at most

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Carlos cuellar is in the last year of his contract. Rangers won't offer anywhere near £3m for him. Try £1m - £1.5m at the most.
Followfollow81 {Ed021's Note - Good point followfollow. That seems a reasonable price for him especially with a year left on his deal.

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22 Jun 2011 18:05:35
Hearts receive bid from rangers for Lee wallace

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Great news he is the best left back in the country.And can defend better than Izzy.And gets up and supports in the way way.And makes the chances for the strikers.I hope we get him.And do not lose out to a Wigan or Wolves.Who have shown interest in him.And I hope Eck sells us big Carlos.If we get them our defence will be a lot stronger next year.And we could play Papac at C.B were he plays for Bosnia.I would not mind us going after Murray Davidson.To give us a bit of bite in midfield.Wolves have shown interest in him to.If Ally wants him.Its time he made the move to get him.

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Your correct papac can play cb but he has not played a single game for bosnia since he signed for us {Ed021's Note - Dispute with the federation.

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22 Jun 2011 17:59:28
Whyte saying that he will sign 5 or 6 players before window closes

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He wants 5 or 6! not guaranteeing it!

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22 Jun 2011 17:29:23
Rangers confirm bid for Cuellar. Any ideas on what the fee could be? WATP
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think it would probably be in the region of 2-3 million and does anyone else think ally has to wake up and realise we have 12 million to spend instead of saying goodwillie at 2m is too expensive
My team for next year would be
Mcgregor
Whittaker Cuellar Papac

Bartley

Davis Danns

Naismith Weiss

Goodwillie
Jelavic

would cost overall
Cuellar 3m
bartley 2m
danns free
weiss 3.5-4m
goodwillie 2m
This is the most i think the players would cost at an overall of 10.5-11m and we have 12 so we could afford that what do us think of that team

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22 Jun 2011 17:16:18
On the Goodwillie situation ; I think, for that individual player, £2m is too steep, Whyte told Rangers official website.
Is anybody else starting to think that Mr Whyte doesn't have the funds he is claiming and the Rangers Board was right all along .. I mean, Goodwillie is an amazing player and would be a great signing for us - yet, Mr Whyte seems to not be prepared to gamble this .. and the wage rumours? 5-6k a week .. is this meant to be some sort of joke this guy is playing - we would need to INCREASE those original figures by 5-6k to get players wanting to play for us.. I mean, CL Football is every players dream - but going to a middle/bottom table club in the EPL - not getting CL Football .. but getting PROBABLY up to the likes of 40k perweek, I think any of us would rather go there, hence why we lost out on Hemed AND Conway, Both FREE Agents, which clearly shows we werent willing to hand out the sufficent wage packages. 4 Offical names have came out so far, Hemed - Conway - Goodwillie & Cuellar .. we lost the 2 FREE AGENTS, we should have tied them up no problem .. now we are left with the 2 players who could cost us up to potentially 5million AND wage packages and from the way things are going, Mr Whyte aint gonna pay.
We need this sorted before the transfer opens or - with all honesty, we aint gonna be saying 5IAR next season.

LewyWATP.

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Yes 2 million is to steep for a player who could be sent to jail in the near future. Do you want Whyte to throw our transfer kitty away, if Goodwillie gets the charges dropped then he will be worth the 2 million

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22 Jun 2011 16:49:00
22 Jun 2011 13:47:08
...................Julien Faubert from West Ham but wages may scupper that one.

Another brilliant post. You couldn't make it up.......but you did. He is an absolute haddie. We did well when he KBd us years ago.

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22 Jun 2011 16:45:27
The the poster of these 2 gems.

"former celtic captain stephen mcmanus another linked with rangers"

&

"barry robson has been linked with a move to rangers"

Don't be so bloody stupid. These two weren't even Celtic class players never mind Rangers class. Even in the Championship they were way above their abilities. By posting his tripe you are only wasting everyones time, including your own.

Dear Ed, I'm all for free speech and all that, but surely you have a big 'delete' button available for posts like this.

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22 Jun 2011 16:30:32
we fans have been getting made mugs of for years its a disgrace.
Champions league and European money from the last 3 years including UEFA cup final - where is it, it certainly wasnt used to reduce debt levels. - around £35m
Money from Carlos Cuellar sale - £9m - where is it?
Surely a smart business would either reduce or indefinetly stop dividend payments? eg BP oil crisis.
A true rangers fans yearly salary - around £630,000 (Martin Bain for the numpties)
Is it not time the club gave something back to the people - the way the people have given religiously - new signings can be financed.

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Do you really believe the pish you type

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Also the 9 Million for Alan Hutton.

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AND THE 8 MILLION FOR BOUMSONG A FEW YEARS AGO

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22 Jun 2011 16:06:29
Just a quick note regarding our public stating of interest regarding players. Why we make it common knowledge I will never know as when we miss out on these players it causes lots of frustration. E.g. Kris commons last season, as everyone knows he was most definitely brought up a rangers fan and wanted to join us but that mob gave him the deal he wanted. Now it looks like Neil Danns will end up being a similiar case(not that he supported rangers) but that we'll lose another very gifted footballer. He is a very good midfielder and will b tremendous in the spl. It's that old put up or shut up and Mr whyte is already scrimping with the cash and the seasons not even started. Sorry if I sound very pessimistic, but I really am already worried.

Big Stell

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Problem with commons was we didn't give him an offer and that was commons himself that said that

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22 Jun 2011 15:41:23
On the drenthe rumors he's fast that's it not got much in the way of real football ability was only signed by Madrid on the back of one u-21 tournament

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22 Jun 2011 15:35:50
22 Jun 2011 12:13:45
i would prefer if the gers staff would keep quiet on who are our transfer targets as we were first to look at kris commons and celtic come and steal him and now neil danns.


Its not always the staff's fault that these stories come out , most of these leaked stories come from agents , remember the more they get for the player the more they get . Agents are the worst thing to happen to football , they are leeches that take away money that could be spent on players, stadium, cheaper tickets, the worst thing ever was FIFA giving them licenses , makes them think they have a use.

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22 Jun 2011 15:31:08
And you know Gibson is a Gers fan how? Considering he chose the Rep of Ireland over Northern Ireland due to a loophole to where he was born (Londonderry not Derry) HE CHOSE Rep of Ire. So do you not think it would cause a lot of agro if he joined? Rant over
Its Derry not Londonderry, and the guy chose a superior team to play for.

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Its LONDONDERRY check any atlas

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22 Jun 2011 14:48:43
Could anyone tell me the fee involved with cuellar? Ive seen 2 million being said, but surely that wouldnt be enough consdiering we sold him for 7.8 million 3 years ago, but i may be wrong.

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Cuellar is in his last year of his contract so 2million is fair its his wages that is a concern would love him back but we will have to wait and see big rab by the way

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I see. Cheers for the info. Aye him n Bougie it the back would be european quality in my opinion, but it looks like hes going.

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22 Jun 2011 14:16:29
To my fellow bears who r living in planet doom could you's all stop and think for a minute.Last season we won the league I seen every game and to be frank we were s**te in the vast majority. I watched games where we were outplayed at IBROX by the so called diddiy teams in the league but we still won most and our away form was outstanding. Now my point is in these games we were s**te it was more or less the same players all the time as we know SIR WALTER, SUPER ALLY, AND KENNY MAC couldn't read each others writing so we hardly ever used subs, now the last 7 or 8 games we played outstanding football with these same players whose attitude changed it was like watching 2 different teams so lets take the last game of season as example TEAM: 1:SHAGGER 2:WHITTS 3:WEIR 4:BOUGY 5:PAPAC 6:NAISMITH 7:DAVIS 8:EDU 9:WYLDE 10:LAFFERTY 11:JELLYFISH, how many of these players would u drop if they were all playing at 100% not many so if we r going to bring in players lets make sure they can enhance this first team and not just be sitting on bench which there was more than a big chance hemed and conway would have done we can't go back to days when we had players not in squad picking up fortunes so if we don't get a few players who r going to be squad players who gives a f*** I would put out team above playing at 100% against any1 even in champions league when we played valencia at IBROX this wasn't far away from the team we had out and we should have f***ed them about 6-1 with the chances we had that night so stop the doom and gloom do u think for 1 minute CRAIG WHYTE wants to be known as the the chairman of RANGERS who f***ed the whole thing up as he says he is new to transfer dealings thats why he has brought in GORDON SMITH to have some1 who knows that side of buisness now he has got rid of that rat bain. THE FUTURE IS BRIGHT THE FUTURE IS CRAIG WHYTE. WATP.

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22 Jun 2011 13:48:55
Bougherra should go he clearly want's away I would rather pocket £1.5m for him and add a £1m to secure King Carlos. I can't understand why anybody wouldn't be absolutely thrilled if he came back - In the only season he played he won 4 player of the month awards, the writers and footballers player of the year in addition to breaking Rangers own record for games in 1 season (65) and 5 goals. We were the Anti-football kings that season with clean sheets V Lyon, Barcelona, Fiorentina (twice), Sporting Lisbon (twice) and Werder Bremen and he was a major part of that. That kind of steel at the back in addition to the strike force we already have, can't see Celtic still being in the hunt come Christmas and the return of Martin O Neill a possibility.
Well done Mr Whyte for not permitting us to pay above the odds for players, Conway worth 5k per week tops, Hemed (who are you?) and Goodwillie should be signed for £1m provincially with another 500k if charges dropped and again another 500k when we secure 4th Title in a row.
No rush Ally Mccoist MBE there will be plenty of good players available when Premiership teams choose their squad as they will consider ANY offers for players who don't make the squads rather than letting them rot in the reserves, plenty of Bartleys and Weisses out there!

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Agree with this post as whyte said yesterday when a player his agent or the club hes at no rangers or celtic are interested they inflate his price and player wants his wages double he said hes not for that and im in agreement if there is clubs who want to bankrupt themselfs thats there business anyhow he thinks we need 6 players so he nos whats required roll on the 1st of july for the transfer window to open big rab by the way

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22 Jun 2011 13:47:44
Everyone needs to chill out. Ally will make roughly 6 signings this transfer window. As for Goodwillie though, I believe he is worth the 2 million asking price and craig whyte should fork out that money IF they cant go any lower. Having said that, You lot need to have faith in ally and whyte and just remember... We are the champions !!! WATP !!

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22 Jun 2011 13:24:14
I seen the Danns one on a BBC sports Column. But by the looks of things on here hes off to celtic! Another player who would do well in the spl has slipped through the net.

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What makes you think this is a big deal, do you see any EPL or Championship clubs chasing him, sure there are other jorneymen players like him around.We should not be trying to outbid on wages for players of this calibre.

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22 Jun 2011 13:22:15
we should test Dundee Utd with a 1m bid for Goodwillie - see how they cope with a 7 figure sum in front of them. We need to be as aggressive as possible. I think we could get hiom for betwen 1m and 1.4m

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Test them ? we have enquired and they have valued the boy at £ 2 mil< simples, so make a realistic offer and use the impending court case as a bargaining tool, imo £ 1.5 and Fleck on loan should be well within the realms of possibilty, Bears ?

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22 Jun 2011 13:15:15
Its time for Whyte to start securing new players - he commited 12m for transfers, the fans have backed the club and we are on track to sell the most season tickets we have done in years. The fans have shown their support, now the board and owner must do the same! Hemed and Conway should have been paid what they wanted, they were free and we could have sold them on for big fees, the free transfers always get a bit more wages. I agree we cant be ripped off but we need to execute these deals NOW - get the fans confidence back.

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22 Jun 2011 12:58:58
J.evans yes but gibson I smell a timmy!!! Keep the faith my fellow bears cause we are the people we will win 4iar no probs and I prefer we take our time getting players and not rush in who have we really missed out on conway lol tomer lol they both went to wee clubs their loss could off been champions WATP

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22 Jun 2011 12:54:32
Dont know why all the panic if Danns does not come and indeed goes to Celtic, until a few weeks back most of us had never heard of him, not saying he is not a fair player but aint no superstar.

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22 Jun 2011 12:49:26
Who tells more lies 2 rangers fans? Lloyds or craig whyte? Agree 4 Lloyds disagree whyte, p.s I go for whyte goin be worst thing thats ever happened 2 gers.

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State 1 thing mr whyte has lied about.
Get a grip.

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If whyte hadnt bought rangers we would have lost at lest 3 players with no replacements second thing is the tax case hasnt gone away that why the debt is secure against the assets murry park ibrox etc so if the tax case is lost we hold on to them if we win he will either do a shares issue or write it off its has come to light bain give himself a huge pay raise when the club was struggling a disgrace i believe whyte will but us on a a firm footing for the future on signings he himself said we need 6 players on conway was never offered a contract hemed went to a club who finished 1 point above the relegation zone they maybe in a good league but the are not a top flight club we offered a fair 8thousand a week for an unproven striker they double his wages but i let you work out why he went t spain imo it wasnt the weather big rab by the way

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22 Jun 2011 12:46:27
Kalinic is available from blackburn, he's croation and a class act could be the dream "croatian" partership up front with jelavic. could maybe get him for 3-4Million. click "believable" if you think this is a good idean and "unbelievable" if you thinks not.

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Why do fans want a top striker when were we are lacking is centre of defence jelavic and lafferty. lafferty is a pure rangers man he plays were hes put with no complaints but he needs to play in the position he was originaly brought in for and always does well in that position as end of season proved big rab by the way

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22 Jun 2011 12:26:51
I want Whyte out! Three targets are now gone just cos he can't up his money! We've just went and lost Danns cos him!

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Get a grip man! there would be no targets if bank were still in control o club.greet if situation still the same on sept 1st

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Where has Danns gone ???????????? I have seen nout on this !

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Danns away to Celtic... {Ed021's Note - Confirm your source please. Cheers.

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Away Back to your own page Timothy.

In all honesty, who heard of Danns before the summer.....Exactly.

I cannae believe some of the so called Rangers Fans reaction to the lack of signings.

1 or 2 Quality signings will be brought in, the rest will be good squad players. (4 or 5)

Now can we get back to the rumours, Ed I assume you agree that there is no need to worry at this stage (especially with the U21's in full swing) but do you rate Dann's, Conway (who we didn't even offer a deal), or even Hemed anything other than Squad players?

Rikkisixx {Ed021's Note - Rikkisixx, there are obviously moves afoot with regards to signings. Danns looks a good player, Conway was never offered a contract and Hemed would have probably struggled for a regular start. Ally stated that he will only bring in players who will improve the squad. Remember, we are reigning champions and I predict quality will come in eventually. It really is the crazy part of the transfer window.

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22 Jun 2011 12:13:45
i would prefer if the gers staff would keep quiet on who are our transfer targets as we were first to look at kris commons and celtic come and steal him and now neil danns.

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22 Jun 2011 11:47:27
I agree with Mr Whyte that we shouldn't pay prices that we believe are unrealistic, but let's face it Goodwillie can't be far away from £2 million. In relation to Danns, if we're really interested in the player let's make a decent offer and stop wasting everyone's time.

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Not the Gers Staff, Its the Agents.....

and the fact that Rangers and Celtic are a proven stepping stone to the EPL, then boths sides get offered every player thats going.

rikkisixx

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22 Jun 2011 11:44:27
Bid Made for Cuellar, BBC Sport Scotland

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22 Jun 2011 11:36:06
Think we need to all calm down, all the talk of who we will sign whips up a hysteria and false expectation, then when we lose out on a supposed target, the media jump on our disappointment and try to stir up a crisis. We will get cash to spend, we will get new players, and we will have a team to compete in the SPL next season. We are in a period of massive change and the club has a chance to consolidate and then grow, but this needs to be done in a manner which guarantees that we never slip so close to the edge of financial oblivion again. Other clubs will find themselves with similar difficult decisions to make in the coming years with those on the other side of the city becoming more and more uncomfortable at their own financial position, do the Maths, 3yrs no CL Football = £30 mil of lost revenue, this coupled with poor transfer dealings and over inflated wage structure as they try to chase what has been a cash strapped and thread bare Rangers team. Oh and all this talk of the Tax man, he will come a knocking on others doors soon enough. So have faith and believe that we truly are the people.

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22 Jun 2011 11:28:18
strong rumours suggesting that rangers might not have as much money as first thought most signings will be free transfers on low wages, whytes penny pinching has caused hemed to reject rangers and will do so for many others of course this will be seen as "astute business" by the scottish media

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I smell a smeltic fans pheoow!!

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22 Jun 2011 10:31:09
I think if Rangers just leave Goodwillie because 2Million is inflated then it's cause for concern, because he should be a big target and if we can't try and buy him it is worrying. No pessism though really, we are the champions.

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Seriously, When you buy a house...do you know how much the seller is after without asking?????????

Rangers queried, Utd answered, rangers will then offer Probably £1.5 m and add-ons, to the value of £2M, possibly over a couple of years.

Whyte is right to structure deals that don't have us forking out large sums up front.

Remember we are playing European football, where our money is made, the players we have been linked with, (with exception to Cueller) have not been tested at a high level, so we are right to be cautious when it comes to spending money, and make sure that any newcomer to the team will enhance the current squad (which Conway and Danns wont do)

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22 Jun 2011 08:32:49
just read the Whyte article in the sun re: the price for Goodwille and I am totally dumbfounded here. How can a business man just come in and state that one of the best strikers in Scotland is not worth the £ 2 mil asking price / valuation ? If a English club go for him< we can forget that signing too< this is very, very worrying that he can step on the managers toes and publicly declare that HE does not rate that value the same as his, we may need to rethink this takeover bears, I am getting a feeling of total effen dread. Rangers til' I die watp

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Totally agree, especially when he goes on to say that he's new to this but it's like any other business. I think he may be sadly mistaken......

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22 Jun 2011 09:35:54
There is no wonder celtic can afford high wages. They obviously dont have to pay for any scouts as they just seem to go for any players we are after.

J J

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Sounds like sour grapes to me , get on with it

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So the papers would have you believe. I'm a Celtic fan and our 2 best players, Izzy and Kayal, were both scouted by Celtic. Why would we go after your targets when we can find gems like these on our own?
Kevbhoy

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2/13, must do better......
Rasmusson, Rogne, Juarez, Thompson, Cha, Mizuno, Mulgrew, Crosas, Cervi, etc etc....

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Still looking over their shoulders at what the Champs are doing, Mmmmmmmmmm Septic running scared me thinks, jog on the worlds most succsesful RUNNERS UP Lol

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22 Jun 2011 09:19:45
22 Jun 2011 01:01:19
6 new players coming into Rangers

www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2006589/Rangers-owner-Craig-Whyte-targeting-signings.html

How and when is this going to happen you lot have tried for 2 and both have knocked you back. You enquire about badwillie and say he is to expensive. Whyte has no money and you will get no big signings.

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Getting worried , conway to cardiff come on we are so mutch bigger than them . the lad from isreal , joins middle of the league spanish club. goodwillie everybody knows utd will bit the hand off for 2 million . he will earn us so mutch more .
last season rumours of gomis , conway, smith, i can see a load of loans at the panic last minute. ps i am a ger.
hearts are buying so are killie why cant we. i will still stick with super ally , not so sure of whyte.

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Conway never knocked us back, he never even got offered a deal. It was just his agent fishing.

I would worry about your own lot.

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No need to worry backroo staff sorted first then we will bring in the players. As for you lot sounds to me that you will get a handful of bosmans on little wages.

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22 Jun 2011 08:11:19
Conway.....Hemed......Danns?? looks like we are missing out on all 3 but lets be honest are we that worried?? they would all have been sqaud players at best on free transfers.....Whyte said today club working on 5-6 signings and i would l think possibly a couple of loans on top.

If we can add the following to the existing squad we will be in great nick for 4 in a row.....

Cuellar - CD
Bartley - CD (loan or £1.5m)
Wallace - LB

Bedoya - LM
Weiss - LM / RM (Loan)

Another central midfield player

Goodwillie - St
Peniket - St

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Get a grip man

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22 Jun 2011 07:45:05
Personally i think we dodged a bullet in not signing Conway (IMO), i can see why some Gers fans are getting a bit frustrated in the lack of transfer activity but remember a couple of seasons ago when we signed no-one but still won the league, now i'm certainly not saying we will go onto win the league this coming season with the threadbare squad that we have but i believe we will get the right players in who will enhance the team.

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22 Jun 2011 07:39:26
why can, t craig whyte and super ally keep quiet on transfer targets all we are doing is the spade work for septic.its time for us to do it the proper way and to keep it in house until it happens. airdrie bear

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Perhaps that's exactly what they are doing, until they sign someone we won't really know. They are maybe happy to discuss players that are at best squad players or in the case of Cuellar and Goodwillie players who have committed to sign regardless of money, because they want to play for Rangers.
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Get a grip man . if you no how football works , it is the agent that puts the players name about , he wont just speak to the mighty rangers , if yous started to pary with the money mr white promised then yous might get some were

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22 Jun 2011 07:27:22
Daily Star: Craig Whyte blasts United fee for Goodwillie.
Uh Oh, this could be another one down the pan. Not surprised one bit hahaha

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You are the dark lord...........
Be Just + Kind

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Like selling a car, you ask for more than you think it's worth, in the hope that you've got some scope to drop when the buyer doesn't agree. And from a buyer's point of view you never agree to full price. 'Haggling' it's not uncommon and it happens in every other aspect of life.
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22 Jun 2011 03:18:16
hello to my fellow bears and Ed, i'd like to see ally and the team stick to british talent as much as we can, we have a good core of them already in mcgregor, davis, lafferty, naismith, etc not to mention the young guns like wylde, hutton, ness for the future. in my opinion these kinda guys are who carried us through the last three league championships, guys who know what its all about to play for rangers we need to continue to nurture this never say never attitude. to many overpaid, overrated foreign players end up washed up on ibrox's doorstep who are simply not good enough. think back to the days when ally himself played with guys like mcall, gough, gazza, durrant who would run through a brick wall in the 90+ minutes to get victory for the gers, yes we had laudrups and co back then aswell same as we had jelavic and co last year that bring that bit of european flair but i think if we build on the best we can get around britain we could see much more sucess in the years to come
what do you guys think agree?/disagree?

gman

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22 Jun 2011 02:12:56
Fellow bears we should wait until at least the 1st of september before judging ally and whytes style of business, 2mill for goodwillie is better value for money than most players rated at 2 million, and I think the only reason dundee utd quote that is because its the buy out clause in his contract, would like to see ziari looks promising but maybe over ambitious all depending on wage demands

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22 Jun 2011 00:24:19
22 Jun 2011 00:14:09
Right go to daily mirror sport transfers. Scroll down the left hand side until you get to the time in red at 22.30. It's there

{Ed021's Note - Confirmed my friend and is on the website. Will probably be in the Sun tomorrow as same newsgroup. Keep up the good work}. Cheers. Ed021.

Cheers ED. Do celtic even have scouts? It's shocking. Anyone we want they always try and sweep the carpet from below is. It's a joke.
Sparky72

{Ed010's Note -I disagree with you Sparky, it has nothing to do with scouting. Clubs are made aware of a player's availability, by their agent. Hence the amount of time that Celtic and Rangers are both apparently "chasing" the same player. Recently both Weiss and Commons were targets for both but ultimately, one chose one half of the Old Firm and the other, the other half. It is something that will happen time and time again.

If like me, anyone didn't know to what the original contributor was referring, here is the link : www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2006589/Rangers-owner-Craig-Whyte-targeting-signings.html

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22 Jun 2011 00:56:17
If Celtic get danns I'm going to be very dissapointed. He looked the perfect mix between defence and attack. Would have complimented Davis perfectly.

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If they get danns we all should be more than disapointed we should be feckin angry. so if it happens we cannot even out do them even now we are in the champs league. up until now i was confident but not any more. airdrie bear

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22 Jun 2011 00:52:49
I'm not at all worried at the moment regarding our transfers.
Ed, Why aren't rangers fans angry that Vain was awarded such a huge increase on his salary. It makes me so angry that we were in dire straits yet Vain was feathering his own nest.

I firmly believe that his behaviour proves he was not a genuine fan.
Believe in our best no 9 super ally.

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If your boss offered you a 35% pay rise would you turn it down. Even if you knew your company was in financial difficulty and voiced these concerns to your boss, saying you couldn't take more money at such a time, he might have assured you it was ok, that you deserved it and new finance was imminent so the company could afford it. How do we know that wasn't the case with Bain?

People are looking for enemies because they desperately want to think Whyte is right. What if he isn't? What if Bain has been treated badly and illegally in terms of employment law? If the legal action goes all the way and the courts decide in Bain's favour, will you still attack him?

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22 Jun 2011 00:46:24
As much as i hate to say it we wont bring in anyone like obertan or even cuellar - its looking doubtful that goodwillie will even join.

im totally shocked that cuellar and goodwillie have both stated they both want to come to rangers.
- obviously cuellar would have to take a wage cut but that doesnt seem to deter him which is good.
- i cant imagine goodwillies wages being massive. this guys value will double or treble if he continues to progress the way he has been.
- not forgetting the danns situation a player ally singled out for praise and stated he wanted - on a free, waged shoudnt be a problem.

so what is the problem then? craig whyte - wheres the cash that was to be invested. who does he think we'll attract with £5-£6k wages a week - bench warmers from st.mirren and st.johnstone? We're a Champions League team Mr Whyte - youve already made us a laughing stock to that mob. If you wanted a business for profit buy a mcdonalds franchise not a football club

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Read Whytes interview, and maybe you'll learn a thing or two.
A bid has been put in place for Cueller, and rangers have asked for and recieved Dundee utd valuation for Goodwillie. As far as I am concerned SPL clubs have always held Rangers and Celtic to ransom for players

Danns, played for an average Championship side, and will be no more than a squad player IF he signs and thats a big IF, If he goes elsewhere I won't loose any sleep. Conway wasn't offered a deal, (which I am glad of, as I have previously stated that he spends more time on his Arse than his feet).

So give Whyte a chance, I'm sure we'll have 6 signings in (on top of the twins from Man City) and 2 of these will be top class signings, the rest will be of decent quality, but squad players.

Rikkisixx

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22 Jun 2011 00:33:40
Daily express same story as goodwille story

Ibrox supremo Whyte insists that Rangers fans should NOT panic about the lack of success so far in the market and that five or six new players will be recruited.

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22 Jun 2011 00:31:53
Daily express.


CRAIG WHYTE DECLARES £2M IS TOO MUCH FOR DAVID GOODWILLIE

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22 Jun 2011 00:13:52
Let's hope the wage rumours are untrue and that the club actually starts getting serious about signing players. Time for Mr Whyte to show us the money.... We can't allow all our targets to slip past.

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Ibrox supremo Whyte insists that Rangers fans should NOT panic about the lack of success so far in the market and that five or six new players will be recruited.

Daily express. Good paragraph from a crap story saying rangers will not pay 2 mill fir goodwillie

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Whyte has also opened talks with Aston Villa about re-signing Carlos Cuellar and is confident of tying down Allan McGregor, Steven Whittaker and Steven Davis on new contracts.

But no deal will be done for Scotland starlet Goodwillie unless United slash their asking price.

Whyte admitted: I think for that individual player , £2 million is too steep.

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The owner of the club - not a football expert - telling the manager who not to buy as he thinks the player isn't worth it? Surely he should trust his manager and if McCoist wants a player and proves he thinks he can improve the team, then Whyte should do his best to put a deal in place. Not at all costs, of course, but not many people are arguing with United's valuation...

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22 Jun 2011 00:12:43
Goodwillie to Celtic? I doubt it. A friend of mine speaks to his father and he said David would only have eyes for Rangers. I'm sure he has quoted saying Rangers are his boyhood club as well. As for Danns, we'll have to wait and see. Whyte never said he isn't prepared to go above 5-6 grand a week, he said "we will not overpay for players" regarding Hemed. Which is quite reasonable seeing as the lad is quite unknown on the European scene.

Personally i would like to see Goodwillie come to Ibrox. Here is my little wishlist which i understand to be reasonable.

Ins: Prately (Swansea)
Le Fondre (Rotherham)
Goodwillie (D Utd)
Spector (Free Agent)
Cuellar (Villa)
Bartley (Loan - Arsenal)
And a wide man, Conway was who i was thinking, however it appears he is off to Cardiff.

Outs: Bougherra (QPR or Swansea)
Fleck (Loan)
Beattie (Anyone who will take him)
Kerkar (Released)
McMillan (Loan)

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I see your point but money rules nowadays, there's no loyalty in football. for example I know for a fact that Scott Brown was brought up as a Rangers supporter. Born/ brought up as a kid in Hill of Beath looking at the statue of the great Jim Baxter. His old man's a bear ( and a better midfielder). The point is it's a job nowadays. If you get the opportunity to sign for your childhood heros that's a bonus but it doesn't happen often. Fact is, at the time Celtic offered Brown a contract (thankfully for us) and Rangers chose Thomson. Do you think Brown should have turned down the chance to give his family security and have the chance to win trophies just because it was Celtic? I know the situation with Goodwillie is slightly different as he may well be offered a contract by both the Old Firm but if he is money motivated (like most) and we offer him 2 years at 6k p.w and Celtic offer him 3 years at 10k p.w (example) he may well choose them. If that's the case he's not the kind of player we want at the Gers and I applaud Mr Whyte for not being held to ransom. We've done a lot over the past 3 years to have players who are a great TEAM and love the jersey. More of the same please Mr Whyte!

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22 Jun 2011 00:11:02
Now then fellow gers, for a start Conway was never good enough for us is he better than wylde or fleck?

Danns maybe an option
as a squad player but again would
he push out what we have? Don't get sucked into the hype
about whyte and mccoist's apparent failures until the start of the season. Some signings will be made when the Market out of the UK opens on the 1st of July so don't get bogged down in who we've not signed so far. Last season jelavic was worth more than multiple championship diddies celleek managed to sign so keep
the faith chaps

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As much as i agree with this point - i think a lot of us are becoming a wee bit frustrated that x amount was being invested and y was on wages and players. Yet Whyte is qouted in the June 22nd edition of the sun as saying goodwillie isnt worth £2m and he wont pay it. Theres also been a lot on these websites saying about how he is unwilling to go over £5k-£6k. Scotlands is a hard enough market to attract quality players to without detering them anymore with stingey paypackets. - agree/disagree

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6k per week! that'd do for me.
The market for players is all relative and ridiculous at times. We should be paying less tan 2 mil for Goodwillie. He's only ever played in the SPL, he's won nowt and I think he only has one scotland cap as a sub against the mighty Faroe Islands. Let the Championship and EPL pay silly money for potential. If he's a bluenose like everyone says he is then 1.5 mil and 6k per week to win trophies with his boyhood heros should seal the deal. If not, fu*k him, there's plenty of players out there and plenty of time. Remember! 3 in a row spending f*ck all with a solid team unit WATP

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22 Jun 2011 00:09:20
am big rangers fan but u wouldint think rangers werent owned by tsb because nothing changed with the new owner we cant offer big wages and we dont have that much to spend really

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