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22 Mar 2012 21:38:07
Has everyone bought the we dont do walking away song? its 1 quid to buy but you can donate as much as you want to the Rangers Fighting Fund
Never even knew there was a song, so where do you purchase this?
On the Official Rangers site there is a link
22 Mar 2012 21:21:44
Heard from a pal at work today that some Celtic fans have contcted Glasgow city council regarding Rangers Flag donations on Sunday.They reckon it's illegal to ask for donations,unless it's for a charity. - Do you know anything about this Ed? - Stevie-A-Bear {Ed001's Note - I don't sorry.}
There is a copy of the e-mail on the septic pages
How sad can they get? It's becoming a joke how obsessed they are with our predicament. I used to go easy on Celtic fans after OF wins but they have really rubbed our noses in it over the past few months and I won't forget it
J
How low can they go. its making me laugh. well i hope there in a sticky situation at some point :D SW
I'm a Celtic fan but can't see it being illegal so I'm not sure where they are going with that. I would have thought you could sell anything for anything as long as it's up front what its for. A commercial venture basically. That said, being as its not for charity it will be taxable mind!
If this is true then it wouldn't surprise me and really shows how disgusting the celtic fans are
How sad are Celtic fans? They could win the league at ibrox on Sunday and all they are interested in are rangers selling flags, get a grip.
There is an easy way around that, just make it a fixed price.
GovanFR
It is a fixed price of 2 quid but you can donate more
If the cash raised is over 78 grand 20% of it is taxable...i think
Yep , more money to pay the administators. only taking fans for fools
Im a celtic fan it dos,nt bother me one bit,garlar07
To the post a above: Grow up! Nothing in life is for free.
GDog
WATP
22 Mar 2012 19:45:28
If we need to go a good few years without winning the league ten so be it, it's far better than liquidation, f**k that. If we need to play second fiddle to Celtic then that's what wel need to do. Itl make all the more satisfying when we win it again. I'd much rather still have my team, this rangers to support. Are you just a glory hunter, does it not matter who you are supporting as long as your winning, coz if we are liquidated it won't be rangers you are supporting
Lee
Correct mate an if we go under i will not support any1 if rangers die i die as they are only 1 rangers fc
TB
I disagree, the institution can only die if you let it die, rangers will be rangers no matter what, same stadium, same fans, same history. On paper the facts may be different but the events that happen can never changed! Rangers til I die
J
The business may die but the institution cannot die.
GovanFR
To be honest, can't really see how we can survive unless daddy war bucks steps in. Noises from admin appear to be that no one has sufficient funding to take us out of admin. could be a chess game though, but BTC is a major fecking anchor and problem. If only we could get baldrick to build a time machine.
Don't agree if this rangers die a die with it would not support another team it would not be my rangers ... Kenny bluenose
22 Mar 2012 19:42:15
It seem to me that the 10 wee SPL
teams are the ones who are kicking
us when we are down. They need
to think again because it is the Old
Firm( who they rip off when we go
to their grounds) and the tv money
generated by celtic and rangers that
keeps them in business. what do you
think?
Agreed - the old firm are the life blood of this league, I honestly believe its time for a euro league of some sort for the OF teams, sooner they start working in partnership the better.
J
The Old 2 need the other 10 as much as the other way, you cant have a league of 2, the old firm are not wanted in England due to their bile, there is no Atlantic league. When the old firm get togther to discuss things its ok but when the other 10 do it it's not on. A league of the spl 10 plus some 1st division teams may not have the money power of the current SPL but it would have a hell of a lot more than a league of 2
To the above? BOLLOX! they are hardly any fans as it is without the old at their own stadiums! seriously if the old firm played each other every weekend home and way then 50, thousand + 60, thousand + then to me its a no brainer, the two clubs could easily generate more money in a couple if months than the rest of the spl can do in a year! the old firm only use the donkey clubs for warm ups for the old firm games, don't give the smaller clubs satisfaction ffs, they simply need us more than we need them! simples haw haw cannie believe your post btw
The spl would die without the old firm that's why sky pay the big bucks they want 4 old firm games not 4 Dundee utd against Aberdeen. Let's see how the other 10 do when the old firm decide to sell there own games direct to sky and shaft the other 10. Who do u reckon sky would rather play ball with? Old firm and fans keep al the other teams going with there rivalry and away support. Try filling stadium without us.
Sky wont want 38 games of shame
22 Mar 2012 19:05:48
Don't want to alarm you mate re celtictaxcase, but last night he had 233 followers, this evening it's 1533. You need to shout louder!
22 Mar 2012 17:18:21
Alright fellow bears av got to be honest a really don't think Paul Murrays the rite guy to take us forward sure he's a fan but he doesn't have the clout to back up his promises,unless we can get clarity soon regarding tickets and the big tax case I fear potential would be buyers will say sod it am off.we will I feel get through this but I do feel there are many twists and turns to come yet.I generally don't do predictions,but I have a feeling we may get something on Sunday,whoever pulls on the jersey get behind them pack ibrox let's make some noise and back the lads.
Jeez guys nobody will buy us whilst the BTC hangs over us. FFS get a grip of yourselves, what's worse is the new law where your debt moves with you and surprise surprise it will be in b4 the BTC is decided. We will be liquidated b4 the 6th April, absolutely certain of it, if we don't we will be be skint for years and I would not rule out a Celtic 10 in a row.
22 Mar 2012 16:43:34
Apparently the Souness rumours are
not quite right. He is the fourth bidder
with a group of ex-rangers players
looking to invest in the club, including
Gazza, Laudrup, Van Bronkhurst,
Hately, Rino Gattuso and Jonas Thern.
With himself taking the directors role
and the clout they have all coming in
as a new coaching regime.
Wish it was true but would that be the same Gazza who was declared bankrupt not so long ago?
Total rubbish. Gazza as an investor or coach? C'mon man
I think Stale Stensaas, Jocky Bjorkland, Jeremy Clement & Basile Boli are in that consortium too.
Please stop talking rubbish, it's Terry Hurlock an wee Rodney Wallace !
PaulRFC
Aye right!! a heard prodans fronting it with all that dough he took aff us for doing scud all!
deejay
Terry hurlocks just coming in fir the team photo!
deejay
Gazza would be putting forward a carry out and some chicken sandwiches
I heard its getting led by aluko and possibly daniel cousin
riskybear
22 Mar 2012 16:01:26
Rangers Fighting Fund has finally reached £110,000. Congratulation to us. That means that the 250,000 of us who had a "nice day out" in Manchester have donated the grand total of 44p each. Now that is how you love our club.
Its £110k last week but this trend will not continue. It will soon be £110 total per week.
To all tight-fisted fans. Get yir wallets oot!
Get your facts right £150,000 and rising!
I'm reluctant to put in a lot of money to the RFFF because we simply don't know where the money is going. It could end up with Whyte for all we know. If the Blue Knights buy the club then I will buy quite a lot of shares. I've bought my red and black scarf, and I have put some money into the RFFF but I will not put more in until I know where it is going. Oh and you do realise the total is actually £150,000.
GovanFR
Some people might just not be able to afford it, black and red scarfs being sold as well give the fans a break they never put the club in this mess. Away and annoy Martin Bain he is a Rangers fan who has 600000 of our money ring fenced. What ex players are they not fans can't they donate !!
It doesn't end up with whyte at all, guys like Walter smith etx decide how much we give to club to keep it alive ffs
J
@4, if the administrators need the money to pay off creditors then is will be used for that. Who is Rangers secured creditor? Yes, Whyte.
GovanFR
5 - wrong, the club is struggling to pay its operational costs just now, no creditors will be paid yet. If you don't want to help you don't want to help. I am waiting for the chance to invest in shares. I have bought my red n black scarf and will buy a flag, my legends tickets but that's all for now.
J
This 250000 figure regarding Manchester, Take away 100000 who have never been to a game but attend all the walks and enjoy alcohol and sectarianism in equal measure, Please don't include them as real fans as some who attended are barely human.
I have made a few donations to the cause, but my real money is waiting on the eventual share issue and incase you didn't notice many people are on the poverty line just now and can't afford to throw money at something which may or may not turn out to be a lost cause, so think before you post mate.
BR
@6, J- eventually CVA's will need to be agreed and if that money could make the difference do you really think it won't be used? It could end up with Whyte, notice I said could, I didn't say it was fact but you cannot guarantee it wont. Also if you had read my post above you would see I have helped out in every way possible so far.
GovanFR
22 Mar 2012 15:37:20
Exactly how many of you bears think Celtic's title is tainted? Explain why
I'm a bear I don't it's not Celtics fault we have been run into the ground by a couple of conmen, even with the 10 points back I think they might have sneaked over the line.
I do! Cause they won't keep it clean and we'll have to polish it back up next year...
BB
It is tainted, ruined, de-valued, however you want to put it by the mere fact people are talking about it. As soon as the subject of the title being tainted comes up then it automatically is because people are talking about it. It is ruined for Celtic fans because Rangers were docked ten points. People will remember this season as the year Rangers went into administration and not for Celtic winning the league. As I've said before the fact it's being discussed instantly taints the title.
GovanFR
Its not take 10 points away at the end of the season and they should still be on top so there Champions we cheated using EBTs i hope this is the only season the fans will suffer for it but u have too give them there title unless we claw points back to within a 10point gap il take a Gin & Bitter Lennon!
Larky Bear
Tainted,tarnished is what the image of rfc is at present.minus your 10points doesnt count a jot,as threw away a 15point lead,although cfc had 2games in hand.been some turnaround in any ones eyes,apart from the 4in a row with no dough mob...no dough part still makes me laugh when you look at what both teams spent over last 5years=almost exactly the same,difference is cfc made a loss of 177,000 over the 5year period compared to rfc loss of 17million!!!..should keep the word tainted quiet for a while until enquiries are completed,as might be lots of tainted titles at ibrox..stevo
3) Govan FR is correct that admin will overshadow Celtic winning the league however IMO Celtic will deservedly win it. Writing was on the wall yonks ago pre admin, we couldn't strengthen the squad preseason to our the fans satisfaction, the loss of key players and inconsistency on the park all played a part in a dire season. Celtic found that consistency and beat the teams we could not , title will not be tainted in my eyes when won. , unhappy bear
Dont let them get to you there 140 year history is ruined because of tainted titles.the thing is they know it so they have to say that celtic title is tainted. the one thing that is true they will remember this year as the worst ever for any football team.and the way rangers football club was run over a number of years the titles that was won on dodgy contracts,and then the pay no one attitude has rocked the football world.they can taint that.....b
@5 you keep harping about this report that came out covering the last 5 yrs. Why didn't they make it the last 10 yrs or even just the last 3 seasons. Basically without the Petrov and Mcgeady transfers out (£16m) you would have been that amount in loss. Celtic are third bottom of the profit from transfers, Rangers bottom - no surprise but it is not the £17m you quote it is £13.1m, the real winners are Hibs (£14.8m) and Hearts (£11.1m) profits. Your highest spend were the last 3 seasons - were you chasing something? then it was McGeady son need to sell you to balance the books ta ta. Gie it a rest.
There's been alot a doom n gloom in the dressing room, with the January transfer window looming. Jelavic wanted to leave in August. Didnt get his move. The players have known that there jobs wernt as secure as they thought. Even the ones on better deals. Since then, Celtic did go on a good run. That deserves to win the league. If there was no such drama at ibrox, tax case, administration or liquidation. Any Woking person in there right mind, worrying about job loss. Is never gony be able to do a job 100%. Let's be honest. We pumped Celtic at ibrox. If lee wallace's goal was allowed. U might no a sneaked a win. We're on our knees. But uz urny much better. Yet all ur players jobs are safe. Wits that say about ur mob? Hoppers average. Non international, stokes, average non international. Ur top striker thats a international is samaras :L many goals? Before u say it, big laff has came up with big goals in the run in. 3 years in a row. N that's our best we have. The league is won, only a matter a time. Yet uz canny even beat killie, to win the treble uz wur shouting about. I bet uz don't perform against a team that's lost 3 home games in a row!
In response to the original post, I think you will find the answer is in the question. And for the record I do not nead to explain or prove - some things you know or believe just like keeping the faith! Father ted(dy bear).
22 Mar 2012 13:03:59
Will we start Whittaker on Sunday? Lafferty? Ness has been is full training for a few weeks now.
McGregor
Whittaker Goian Bocanegra Papac
Aluko Davis Edu McCulloch Wallace
Lafferty
It's certainly a stronger team than we have seen for a while, hope they all make it. I'd rather not see Wallace at LM but I'm pretty sure he will be.
GovanFR
Thats our best 11 arguably. All depends on fitness but would hope their busting a gut to be ready. Bit off topic but watched S*y sports today and they were showing footage of 99 game. Even the huddle at the end. Talk about stoking it up for maximum viewers, comparing it to 99 is a bit daft IMO. CheltBlue
Kerkar to start and Aluko up front to run the channels big Lee in with Edu and Davis and Wallace in front of Papac.
Lafferty wont play again this season and whittaker wont be fit on time
Rumour is Lafferty as he has two more games before we owe Burnley some dough
You dont owe Burnley anything else for Lafferty....that has been confirmed by Burnley themselves.
Why do people keep on insisting in putting either wallace or papac in left midfield.How many times have we tried one of them in left midfield and got nothing from that side of the park?? Play one or the other at left back and thats it.
@6, my post actually says at the bottom i hope we don't play Wallace at LM.
GovanFR
22 Mar 2012 10:52:47
Who will start up top for rangers on Sunday? Surely if lafferty is fit he's about to start, if it's little or David h, we could be in for along afternoon!
Big Jig back up front with Little
@1, agree , Little an jig, an I would drop kerkar for aluko
PaulRFC
Probably play with 5 in midfield with lone striker so Lafferty would be the ideal candidate, is he fit enough though? If not Little is my bet with Jig backing him up from deeper. Its not going to be pretty lol. CheltBlue
It'll be the team at the top of this thread but with Little and McCulloch up top. Lafferty will come on with 30 ins to go so lets hope we're still in it then
Has lafferty all of a sudden became messi?
22 Mar 2012 10:28:47
Rusty the comedian tim!!ok rangers fans I was thinking about the songs you's play at ibrox!!get rid of the penny arcade song and play the song that's on the radio?it goes a bit like this,where did all the money goooo,what happened to all that brasssss!!!p.s why when I put a comment up your replys are referring to my mental health etc iv told you before Im out for a few wks,the nurse said I was improving and to keep coming on these rumours page for reading the rangers fans comments about take overs and how it isn't there fault just shows me I'm not in a bad state lol......1 more thing and be honest with me,how many rangers players to date would get in there original position at Celtic??hail hail rusty the money man tim!
Well Rusty the drugs are defo not working mate and are your still as mad as a bag of Neil Lemons....
bluebear
Crusty how many of ur 1st team players actually support Celtic 1 maybe 2 Stokes Mulgrew? Mcgregor Davis & Aluko would stroll into that side if ur club went into Admin i bet it would be alot more than just a Wylde & Cellick that jumped ship there all there for the cash i remember a certain Captain amazing wouldnt sign a contract until he got an extra 0 put on at the end Barca must have been wanting him!
Fail Fail
Larky Bear
Don't know how many players support Celtic???but it's probably easier answering that than asking how many creditors have rangers got????let's talk about whitty who wouldn't sign for less than £20,00 ow yes another 0!!that contract alone merits you's going into admin!!£20'000 well spent mmmmmm hail hail rusty the tim
Rusty the Tim. Another Celtic journeyman finding that Rangers Banter is better than Celtic Banter. Your posts do make me smile but not as much as the agrees you get. Have you seen Barca play or just heard rumours? Deluded but funny, is that politically correct to laugh at him? CheltBlue
Il be honest Whittakers not worth that money he should pay us too play! Im surprised Whyte had enough money to pay him the 1st week right enough so we done well too get to Feb! Oh and Crusts i put that post on about 15mins ago how often do u prowl this site man worry about ur own house keep predicting the future it was never ur Forte u werent laughing last Sunday!
Larky Bear
22 Mar 2012 10:20:55
Hi fellow bears
If i'm total honest with myself it was getting kind of tedious winning year after year after year, as with all things in life a bit of adversity always makes you stronger and just think how much sweeter it will be when we get back to our usual winning ways, keep the faith
KISHMEL
22 Mar 2012 08:56:06
Big game this weekend. I think we might be in for a good game both teams have been duff for a few weeks so point to prove for both. Let's just hope that everyones gets home safe after the game no matter what the result.
DD
Yes mate it's only a game at the end of the day, but that's the thing with early Sunday, some so called "fans" of both sides will have been getting off their faces all weekend ("fans" who don't go to games), by the time sunday night comes, with the result not going good an their heads blown on drink an drugs, that's when the violence starts, makes me sick !
PaulRFC
Well said Paul,it's only a game at the end of the day!rusty the tim. P.s we will win 3v0 tho
22 Mar 2012 08:52:31
Morning ed mate, you don't have to post this, maybe a yes or no beside my name if you don't mind, was just wondering if your also the ed for the MMA page aswell, or is it different eds, cheers man,
PaulRFC {Ed001's Note - it depends on who is around, lots of us have access to edit it, but I certainly am one of them.}
Do you no your stuff about the MMA world ed? Mainly the UFC, (should prob be asking this on the MMA site lol)?
PaulRFC {Ed001's Note - more martial arts in general than the MMA, I find the UFC a bit too showy for my tastes. Plus, I wonder why such highly trained fighters get close in and don't use elbows constantly. As anyone who has trained in Muay Thai knows, the elbows are probably the most deadly weapon in the human arsenal. So I wonder how much is real, similar to boxing, rather than wrestling type of faking. I just wonder if they hold back to improve the 'show', as no one wants to see a host of 20second bouts one after another!}
Ed I'm sorry to say mate, that's outrageous, no way the UFC is to showy, these guys are the best combatants on the planet, you say no elbows , lol, watch my fav guy "shogun" rua he takes mui tai an Greco, to a different level, also "bones" jones has lethal elbows. I see elbows used in the clinches an ground an pound all the time, a short sharp elbow will burst you wide open, look forward to maybe seen you on that page then, we are in for some summer in the UFC,(anyway wrong page for this chat lol)
PaulRFC {Ed001's Note - I will see you there in the future mate.}
1 quick thing ed, NO holding back ever ed, these guys want their 100k KO of the night bonus, plus their sponsors always offer a carrot of a rapid, brutal, KO
PaulRFC {Ed001's Note - I used to think that too, until a mate of mine competed, he was a totally different animal in that. Though thinking about it, maybe it is more a fear of opening up completely and being caught with a counter against a better opponent?}
22 Mar 2012 08:47:56
Nice to see the other 10 spl
clubs having a go. these clubs would
not survive but for the tv money
generated by the old firm. they also
rip off old firm fans when we visit
their home grounds. lawwell has
really tried to defend the old firm if
people with blue tinted glasses
would read what he said.
Completely agree he states that the old firm are responsible for 85% not celtic alone. he's right too, the other 10 have written gers off as folded and are trying to hang celtic to gain more power.
DJ
I think the voting and money split is outrageous. Time for change as the whole league is slowly dieing. Share it equally and improve Scottish football as a whole. I know some may not agree but the time has come to stop inhibiting the opposition to artificially keep the old firm on top. Im not saying share gate receipts but share tv money equally. CheltBlue
So if you worked for a company and generated 85% of the profit of that business, and are then told your dividend will be cut and the other workers of that company, that only produce 15% of the wealth, are demanding a bigger share of the dividend, you'd be miffed as well - would you not? I wouldn't be surprised if Thomson at Dundee Utd is stirring this up, he's very good at.
22 Mar 2012 08:29:29
Just a quick quiston.
Has anyone concidered the possibility that whytey boy may have restructered the ticketus deal AFTER he took control because at that point he was the owner.
I know that he did the first deal when not the owner
22 Mar 2012 08:25:48
CELTIC have threatened to withdraw all co-operation with Sky over plans to change SPL voting. they are allways complaining about sumthing for the sake of the leauge
the voting system needs changed this would make the leauge better and stronger
Whether Celtic choose to admit it or not, they need Rangers in this league. The other 10 in the SPL are now trying to dictate the voting rights, as there is still a possibility Rangers still might be liquidated. Would they be doing this if Rangers weren't in administration? I doubt it very much. They have spotted an opportunity and are pushing their luck. Good on Celtic for taking them on, as they are fighting our interests as well.
So Celtic don't need Rangers eh
Celtic fan here. I agree that the league needs rangers, Celtic also need Rangers. Its a good week to prove the point OF game on sunday and im allready nervous that we lose. OF games are everything in spl, all other games are just padding.
22 Mar 2012 02:12:36
I wasn't feeling very good about Sunday but after the cup final I realised the tims are hopelsss, we have a good chance now.
Once again enormous credit to Hearts. They don't know when(if) they'll get paid again, yet job done against St Mirren tonight. Can our lot not just do the same and win a bl**dy game at Ibrox. They've done nothing for months(long before admin) so no self pity just get your job done on Sunday!
Yeah me too, we seem a bit shaky playing small teams
What gave you that idea? You's have lost your last three home games!
Darren
Eh Hearts have a few good players and strikers who can score we haven't !
22 Mar 2012 00:54:47
Well well , looks like BOTH Keanes were on "unclear" contracts! Looking into Bellamy now,hope it all comes out. Not so squeaky clean after all are we timmy! Haha
Did wonder how hey got those mercenaries. How funny would it be as well they got Keane (robbie) and Bellamy those times illegally nd they still never won the league.
How do you know this? The owner paying a players wages isn't illegal putting them on secondary contracts is. Plenty of owners pay the wages of players. It's anything you can do to drag Celtic into your dodgy deals. Face it bears liquidation is looming and the big hoose is nae staying open. We're A Tax Problem.
What u looking into their contracts ur self?
Clutching at straws?
That dermid desmont or whatever, was paying most of that himself, they were on loan. lets just worry about ourselves.
BluePeter
If you have so much time check out Naka and Ki,'s deals as well. Rumoured to be split with image rights.
Celtic inherited Juninhos EBT from Middlesbrough. When Brian Quinn arrived he looked at it,decided against using any EBT system and all money owed was paid in full. Move along SHAME, nothing to see here....another straw snatched from your pathetic clutch.... Image rights are written into the player's contract, no separate contracts were issued.....Move along CHEATS, nothing to see here.....You keep your feet on the ground and keep clutching at those straws, your shameful club's illegal practices over the years have finally caught up with you. Altogether now......Let's all laugh at Rangers!!! GBNL PMac
22 Mar 2012 00:43:17
Rusty the barca scout tim!!right rangers fans I've got a couple of questions for you die hards!!1-will you's admit that Celtic are a far better team than rangers? 2-ally mcoist isn't rangers class at management? 3-rangers can't string 2 passes together for you's can't count? 4-is it true that all you football(sorry can't call you's football for you's don't play it)fans have an l & r on your shoes to help you's get your shoes on the right feet??hehe p.s if I was a hula hoop would you's stick your finger in my hole and eat me???read this message if you agree that big beautiful sammi is worth £10million!!thank you for agreeing with a tim that watches barca class at parkhead every 2nd wk!! Rusty
Nurse, Nurse, Rusty's out of bed again.
Aye your team was great on Sunday eh, now the jambos in the other cup, oh oh, see you lot at the big house Sunday mate, can't wait for it !
PaulRFC
Your talking nonsense, when did you play barca class in Europa league? Barca would have romped that section your where in, your full of it.
Got a training tip for your Barca hoops, practice your diving.
Feck ye need tae look at yer own team before slaggin us about cannie string two passes together, you lot were berwick class not barca ( no offence berwick ) tell ye wit crusty try and a hobby before ye decide to go out shoppin and automatically buy a gers top crusty “ the celtic fan that is no really that there which i stick out like a sore thumb“ the dhim. Steeeeve
Don't like Hula Hoops, they're a bit plain and boring, a bit like yor recent posts Rusty, but if sticking my finger in your hole would stop all this drivel coming out of it, i'm up for it!
Stevie-A-Bear
Talking about not been able to count Gusty you said a couple of questions for us die hards then produce 1 2 3 4 questions, correct me if im wrong but in my eyes a couple is 2, bit of a cheek questioning our arithmetic have you not. LARKYELLIS
Everything aside for a moment. As a tim I'd hate rangers to disappear , the old firm is in our DNA, it's part of being Glaswegian, we need the banter
Nice haul rusty
Ok here goes... 1- Sometimes. 2- Give him time. 3- Sometimes 4- Only when very drunk. There you go Rusty I did my best. Do I get a prize? CheltBlue
Talking of stringing things together Rusty, you should try a coherent sentence now and again.
I really dont see why you would compaire your selfs to the best football club in the world. next it will be messi is just like hooper SW
Bit Rusty there Rusty, that was 4 questions and not a couple as stated, your playing football manager to much to be thinking about Barca , is yer mammy still putting your shoes on for you when going to work, dont forget yer peices son, now jog on
Rusty the tim here!don't get upset about the questions!I asked a couple of questions a couple of times!I make my own pack lunch for work unlike you's who buy a baynes before a trip to the job centre hail hail rusty