Rangers Banter Archive February 23 2012

23 Feb 2012 22:59:19
I can't believe fans want to pay at gate to stop ticketus getting there money! This is a business that bought those tickets in good faith and are used by clubs throughout Britain so deserve their money back. It was not paying our way that got the club into this mess.

Regardless of paying at the gate, rangers still owe that money to ticketus, they don't care how rangers get it


taco

If Vague Whyte has this liability then let him wear it

He's probably trousered more than that from us

BFH

Only difference would be they might put a charge on having to handle money, so would end up costing more... im keeping my season ticket no matter what craig+babybear

No ticketus gave money to Whyte not Rangers, so why should Rangers be liable?

GovanFR

23 Feb 2012 22:52:53
Any woodworms about tonight? Come out of the woodwork -to appear suddenly and unexpectedly.
Usage notes: usually said about someone who was not invited or wanted.
Etymology: based on the idea of insects that suddenly come out from under boards in a place where they have been hidden for long spells.

I love the way the Celtic fans have got miles ahead of themselves by winning the treble and competing in Europe already. By doing so they have shown major disrespect to every team in the SPL.
Can't wait to see you slip up at some point we will all be waiting and ready to laugh at the green bottle crashers.

Tired bear

"they have shown major disrespect to every team in the SPL"...LOL HAHAAHAH, thats a good one! i mean it is a joke right? cause you rankers have not paid other teams in spl the money they are owed as well you have put the spl and Scottish football in a bad light, so wake up and realize how bad/corrupt your club is. The sooner rankers leave the better for the spl, for you have only brought shame and disrespect to it. The only good thing has been the old firm game but your selfish club has put that in trouble. But hey maybe now motherwell can take your place,and well every other team for that matter since you will be fighting for bottom 6 if you stay, now that you have to work like a normal and properly run club.

Wake up and just admite it that your club are cheats and cant run a football club not just to make Celtic fans happy but to show that you fans wont stand for it and maybe just for once you can stand up for what is right and your club can start to change and shed its bad light/shame that it has been carrying with them for so long.

Sorry what have I to admit? I never mentioned my club once in my post. The senior authorities at Rangers may have shafted the Taxman but it's no where near as shameful as what went on in Celtics past...

Nothing can take away our recent domination of Scotland and whatever happens we will come back stronger than ever so enjoy it while you can sunshine.

Tired bear

Both of the Old Firm have shamed Scotland in a variety of ways but the situation with Rangers at the moment is embarrassing.

Whatever happens, you will come back stronger than ever? Not if liquidation happens, mate.

The club can be liquidated true but the fans will always be here. Rangers are too well supported to go down the tubes ''mate''.

23 Feb 2012 22:51:05
i have spoken to a number of people today who say that we will almost certainly go into liquidation. apparantly there is more revelations to come which will leave the club with no option but to fold.

Story running in the herald tomorrow that rangers never paid the police for saturdays game,good job the next game is away from home.

It wouldn't surprise anyone regarding the non payment to police, but i believe clubs have 30 days in which to pay for policing costs


taco

Think the rules change with rangers in admin.

23 Feb 2012 22:31:28
a couple of rangers players not on great cash are hoping to be released so they can negotiate new deals themselves. i think they do walking away.

23 Feb 2012 22:17:43
www.saverangers.com

Just pledged £500. Time to step up to the plate bears and prove to the world that we are THE best fans in the world.

We don't do walking away.

Jas

Well done m8 i done 400 wrtp

Wow! Why didn't you take up murrays two share issues a few years back and you might not be in this mess and Murray would still be backing you? Instead of waiting till your clubs at deaths door before 'pledging' some money.

What a mug you are give your money to charity it will benifit a worth while cause you are only helping the liar that is craig white

All ready done it m8 we don't walk away

Non tax doger here,come in piece,good on yees the real fans coming forward and doing yer bit for yer club but if and a big if ye manage are yees no leavin yerselfs open to the big tax case that MR.WHYTE is hoping to get 1p to the £ anyway hats off tae sumahyees for trying to save your team H/H

Yaaaay! we've raised 20million, lets buy rangers!

out of administration woohoo!

knock knock.....who's there?.....HMRC, you owe us another 80million!

back in administration boohoo!

shut!


taco

Craig whyte is nothing to do with it. We will be supporting the blue knights! Even if we liquidize, we will be back debt free and rich! Owned by the fans is the way forward

You have'nt pledged anything , it's an opinion poll , it is only a pledge once you give them your bank details.

Taco you obviously dont get it do you? Rangers will pay back something like 10p in the pound to their creditors. So say they owe £15 million PAYE + VAT, £75m big tax case and approx £10m to others. So roughly £100m, they will only pay out £10 and probably not anywhere near that.

23 Feb 2012 21:41:21
Does anybody no if we are due to bring out a new top next season as this would bring in good money as I for one always buy the home and away

Yes there is one coming out for next season, it's basically a rab c number this is to save on material....... You know cut backs and all

New top lol

Yees coodnae aford jellyp15hes name own the bac oh his shurt en yer own aboot new strips ffs

The club doesn't see as much of the money from shirt sales as you would think. I'm sure Ed001 would back this up as he regularly has to tell fans of English clubs that breaking into the Asian market will not bring huge amounts of cash through shirt sales.

Adi Dassler {Ed001's Note - unfortunately it doesn't bring much at all, it takes years to build up a return, it is more about establishing a fan base, which in turn increases merchandise sales (ie scarves etc) which becomes noticed and leads to improved TV deals with that area. Though the future is in internet rights, the big clubs are looking at making individual deals to stream their games online through subscription sites. That should dwarf the current TV revenue.}

23 Feb 2012 21:28:29
9,278 now pledged wrtp keep it up

How does 9,278 people entering their details on a computer help Rangers?

On radio clyde tonight they said the money it takes to run the club on a weekly basis fans are waisting their time..remember this is only money that has been pledged .

Everyone needs to keep in mind this is only money pledged..it is another thing getting it .

Half of those pledges are only taking the p155 to give you false hope and the other half would probaly be yous,lol stop kidding yourselfs its a non starter wait till it gets closed down by fb

23 Feb 2012 20:58:38
yep bus cancelled to ict game on orders of administrators. i heard the under 17s team had been recruited to piggy-back the "stars" all the way to ict. administrators said it would help with the finances and improve stamina in the youth team. good news all round.

They already cancelled the under 15`s mini bus a couple of weeks ago

23 Feb 2012 20:51:47
Rangers will not come out of administration until we hear the result from the tax man what we have to pay them. Until then no one will try and purchase us. No one will buy us then end up getting a massive tax bill. The HMRC case will not be finished until April. So it will be no Europe for the mighty Gers next season. No one in there right mind will touch us until all the mess is uncovered.

No one really knows what's happening , it will play out in time who all the main players in all this have been, we just watch from the sidelines and wait . There's nothing else the ordinary fan can do about it, we don't move in these circles, time will tell all we can do is not turn our backs and get on the players backs, remember we may have a few of the young team havin to step up, don't kill the boys confidences by giving stick, it will get uncomfortable but nothing else for it Alex McI

More bad news to come ..They are checking into transfer money..WTF next

23 Feb 2012 20:40:15
Evening ed since Russell and smith left why don't they pay the money they got for wages because they never did anything to earn them hopefully Whyte will just stay away he had done enough damage ... Kenny the prod {Ed001's Note - you could ask them I suppose....}

Kenny the prod did you ever work wae cattle?

Na one time porn star in the 70s r was that kenny the rod garlar07

23 Feb 2012 20:26:56
ten things being discussed by septic fans at porkhead last night
1 rangers
2 rangers
3 rangers
4 rangers
5 rangers
6 rangers
7 rangers
8 rangers
9 rangers
10 rangers
in touching distance of the title and still mor interested than us than anything else sad or what?

We just like a laugh, that's all :D


taco

Take it you were at CP last night then! pmsl. League's done, of course we're all delighted with developments at Shameville, why wouldn't we discuss it?

Make mines a treble!

Miko x

And one things being discussed by the original poster - Celtic. Pot, kettle and black.

Is that why everyone looked as though they were p1shing themselves laughing.

Were you there then? lots of singing and dancing even the snack bars do JELLY AND ICE CREAM now............green jhedi

Not one of you went to the game so how do YOU no what was said... Card board cut outs! LMFAO

A third of the stadium was empty, the fans don't even go when they're winning!

23 Feb 2012 20:16:00
are we the people boycoting all away fixtures to the end of the season, what do we all think of this idea ?

I thought you don't do walking away! Lol

You have the same morals as Craig Whyte.

Thats typical rangers fans mentality... Blame everyone else ffs do you not think you have ripped enough clubs off without making it worse? Heres an idea why dont away fans boycot ibrox for stealing money from the clubs they support ya complete an uttter clown!

If away fans boycotted Ibrox it would be ideal, we could fill the stadium with our own supporters, more money for the administrators.

23 Feb 2012 20:22:36
Craig Whyte is apparently jealous that David Murray had a Big Tax Case and Whyte is now doing everything to create his own Big Tax case. £9m to £15m in one week. How long will it take to catch up?

Just how much tax do we pay, whit will it be next week another 9 mill on top of what you already ow us rangers and if you don't pay it were going tae break yer legs FFS.

"Just how much tax do we pay" - Eh, well, let me think ...............NONE.

23 Feb 2012 20:14:38
save rangers is at 8,400 keep it goin

Best of luck,70 percent of the "pledges" will never be paid with actual money,the next 4 years of giros dosen't count!

Soon be more than was at the Dundee Utd game.

This is pointless what stops other fans going n an putin in fake offers ???


TB

23 Feb 2012 19:59:47
this guy whyte has got to be the greatest con artist in the history of the world. how much more shame and misery are we going to suffer before its all over. my old man will be spinning in his grave. can only hope that police start proceedings against ALL the guilty partie and we can return to being the proud supporters of this great club.

You may well discover that what he has done is immoral, but not illegal.

Great club! i hardly think so.by the way i think whytes a right laugh!!!

Better club than septic, more honours and more true supporters.... FACT

As oppsed to false supporters???

and again, who are this septic you keep banging on about, it's becoming quite the obsession with you lot.....FACT


taco

23 Feb 2012 19:35:10
Craig whyte has written to the administrators, asking for his pound back!

Lol SW

Yep. plus interest. at 3% above base rate. smart cookie our craigie.

23 Feb 2012 19:26:59
does anyone know what the admistrators
will cost Rangers, will the rush it?
chance to make some more money...

"Paul Clark from the administrators,
Duff and Phelps, said they had made "good progress" loads of Cash since Tuesday

£500 per hour and theres two of them so; £1000 per hour....

Yes, there are two that front the operation, but 5 support staff walked out behind them from Ibrox the other day, then there will be accountants, solicitors etc. to pay. {Ed001's Note - the company charges a fee, then it pays the wages of the staff out of it, it doesn't matter how many support staff etc there are.}

Ed - I did not mean that Rangers pay each of the individuals. You are correct that the company will charge a fee. The point I was making was that the more people the administrators have involved in the case, the higher the fee is that they will charge. {Ed001's Note - not always true, usually the fee is agreed in advance and they just have to cover staff costs themselves.}

23 Feb 2012 19:21:40
after full amount owed to all parties is known rangers will be sold to a uas company based in germany yank owner is footy daft and owns la galaxy

Course they will.

Wake up

23 Feb 2012 18:53:13
does anyone know what the admistrators
will cost Rangers, will the rush it?
chance to make some more money...

"Paul Clark from the administrators,
Duff and Phelps, said they had made "good progress" loads of Cash since Tuesday

The administrators fees will be around £350k a month and that comes out of Rangers cash flow.

23 Feb 2012 18:47:42
So some of you want mccoist sacked,but who would take his job?whos gonna want to manage a club with an uncertain future,and very little,if any,money to spend?and be honest.its not going to appeal to a big name manager,so reallistically,who do you guys think is a possibillity?artybhoy

I don't want mccoist sacked but if things were taken out of his hands ideally I'd have souness coz he scares the sh!t out of you lot... big tel butcher or McCall PaulRFC

Souness! has been...green jhedi

Would this be the same big scary souness that proclaimed it was 'men against boys' after the first leg of Celtic v Blackburn?

yeh, Celtic were petrified in the return leg lol!


taco

23 Feb 2012 18:38:09
im really hoping this AEG rumour is true. would mean ibrox being used as a venue for big concerts and the rangers brand would become even bigger throughout america. this takeover could see rangers become a financial powerhouse.

feeny

How can you hold a concert in a Tesco store.

@feeny; EVEN bigger? sorry mate your not known in the USA.........green jhedi

Or a Car Park.

Rangers NCP...... Got a ring to it!

Actually we are green jhedi, we have 6 rsc‘s in america, 3 in canada, 2 in cyprus, 3 in holland 2 in germany and 1 in belgium!, ohwon't believe me but theirs 1 in dublin aswell...... BOOM

I think you will find mo edu and beasly were on the front cover of pes a couple of years ago. Bluejebend

23 Feb 2012 18:17:02
Tory MSP Murdo Fraser pressed him on the effect the club's administration would have on the economy.

Mr Fraser, a debenture holder at Rangers, said: "You do not need be a supporter of the club to appreciate the serious impact both on Scottish football and the Scottish economy if the financial situation at Rangers was to deteriorate further."

Wake-up...not paying your TAX
for sure has had a serious impact
on our country for 10yrs....

You clearly have no idea what Rangers as a brand bring to the Scottish economy.

GovanFR

So has bailing out the euro and the banks

What a camel's foot you are. RFC have been paying taxes, the HMRC thnk it should have been a lot more. RFC is appealing that decision.
Iam legend

Just think how much the kelly's saved in tax with the crowds they used 2 report for celtic football club must have ran into millions what you think
NTYABOW

Govanfr....can you give me one good reason why rangers fc have avoided paying tax?they now have done this on 3 separate occasions...why do you condone serial tax evaders/avoiders?what does the rangers brand exactly bring to scotland?

Iam Legend - where have you been the last week. Rangers have not paid any PAYE, NI and VAT payments since Whyte took over.

Administrators revealled today that the amount is £15m, rather that the earlier £9m reported.

So your a camel's toe.

"RFC have been paying taxes"

lol!! the stuff of legend!

could your head be buried any deeper, or do you just refuse to believe anything negative towards your team?

question for you.....why are you in administration right now?


taco

'Wake-up...not paying your TAX
for sure has had a serious impact
on our country for 10yrs....'
That's the tax tribunal that's what i was answering.
If you want to mention tax. Don't hear you shouting about the UK problem of an estimated £130Billion a year that big comanies and rich individuals get away with thro - tax evasion, tax avoidance, tax fraud and non payment.
Would you like to comment on that, especially the tax fraud cos I believe your lot were doing that a while back?
Iam Legend

For a start leg end, do you have any proof whatsoever about Celtic, or is it more of the same cr@p as celtics history only started 7 years ago blah blah blah...

secondly, if we were to discuss the problems of other companies/induviduals evading tax, we would do so on their forum, this, however is a rangers page, dedicated to rangers tax problems:)

thirdly, you actually said RFC have been paying taxes, or does your memory not stretch that far back?


taco

23 Feb 2012 18:12:51
Gordon smith and ali russell both leave ibrox, imo no harm to them but there more luxuries than anythn.....govan_front87

Bet these 2 knew what was going on along with Ally

Luxuries? what exactly did they do to achieve their salary?

23 Feb 2012 18:09:14
saverangers has raised the club £5m achieving 7000 members and counting

They haven't raised anything. It is only pledges, not actual payments.

It hasnt raised one single penny lad,its only to gauge what fans would perhaps pay when asked,also take into account when mr whyte leaves the new owners will ask the fans to dig deep once again with a share issue,its fine to say you will pay but when the push comes to the shove how many will put in what they pledged?add the cost of a season ticket on top of what is being pledged and a share issue....how many working class fans can afford all three?not many imho.

Exactly where r u getting this info from?
Inter54

Wtf are you talking about?

they haven't raised a penny you clown!

even i said i would invest lol!


taco

I would suggest half are celtic fans pledging ridiculous amounts to let it seem that the fans buyout is actually a good idea lol

23 Feb 2012 18:05:33
Quick question, does anyone know if Rangers will be staying the night in Inverness on Saturday or have the administrators put a stop to this? Just wondering as I live in Inverness an was wanting to go along and get my top signed?

They're booked in to the caravan park site just a mile up the road from the ground. You should be fine to get your top signed if you show up there bud.
Tt

23 Feb 2012 17:49:43
tax case now got another 6million added to it whyte is a lying conman our club is going to end up totally bust if this isint sorted an buyer found asap

23 Feb 2012 17:39:30
After punting the Sacred Arsenal Shares - any truth in the rumour wee Craig was spotted doon at the Barras trying to sell an Auld Racing Bike ?

I've just bought the big "R" from outside the stadium so it'll just be FC?
Tt69

My grandad told me about these Arsenal shares year ago, he tod me back then just how important and part of th history these were to the club, now this clown has come in and sold them like it was nothing. Plus putting it in an account only he can access says it all realy. I can't wait till we get shot of him!
Billy99

23 Feb 2012 17:16:10
Rangers over the last few days strange things happening £250 000 deposited into banstead afc day before administration ,reported on every media outlet, why? Rangers sell there arsenal shares a piece of our history, why?
Whyte getting ready to take money and run as reported in all media outlets why?
Only connection that makes sense
rangers now have a majority in a English football club benstead afc, football association have a rule that no club can have shares in two clubs see fa constitution rangers now only have shares in one club that's why arsenal shares were sold to enable to join the English pyramid system before this is ridiculed think about it both actions widely reported and admitted by rangers .whyte has done what he was put in for to take the flak he will now slip away by his own admission yesterday. Then new investors come in .makes sense. Think the end game is rangers move benstead afc up to ibrox and hey presto in the English pyramid system .that's why the arsenal shares were sold. And my team is Celtic by the way

Whether your team is Celtic or Rangers it doesn't matter, you're a bl00dy fruitcake.

Away now back to your padded cell for the night.

I think we still have 14 shares so that kind of dampens your theory...an if we do have 14 shares in arsenal an they are worth their most in years maybe ever then they have to be looked at to possibly save people's jobs (for a while atleast). PaulRFC {Ed001's Note - I am trying to find the original reports on the shares, it was only reported from an Arsenal perspective initially until it came to light where Usmanov had obtained the shares from. The one thing that is definite is that Usmanov was offered the shares prior to Whyte's buyout of the club, or he asked for them prior, and the nucleus of the deal was in place back then. Whyte merely signed off on it.}

Cheers ed so it was probably arranged by Murray but whytes an easy target... The media should be ripping Murray to bits in my opinion, whyte might of done what he's done but he was given his free pass by "sir" David PaulRFC {Ed001's Note - I find it strange because all the reports do agree that it was the old board that suggested it to Whyte when he came in. But Murray is very well liked by the media, he looked after them, so they are loath to stick the knife in. Whereas Whyte is a venture capitalist, he has spent his life preying on the weak and sick companies to make a profit. No one minds sticking the knife into him, he is a very easy target, deservedly so to be fair, but he has done nothing that is not normal for people in his line of work. Murray must have known what he would do when he sold him the company, I really struggle to understand why he agreed to sell to him.}

1/4 million did go to benstead afc ..you cannot hold shares in another English club all this in public domain as fact. Mr whyte does not do things for no reason so why invest money in that club. Poster has only stated a theory and it seems logical. Don't think it will happen but would not surprise me. Think you timoths are starting to realise something you will not like may well happen.all you will have is a devalued league title and we will be back facing you lot stronger anddebt free with big backers next season to continue our domination of Scottish football .btw all the real tax experts in the financial domain expect rangers to win the big tax case

23 Feb 2012 16:32:31
BOO!

Don't fret little bears, don't be afraid....you'll all wake up soon and realise that the nightmare you thought you were having is actually reality!

HAIL HAIL
ChrisBhoy

PS....If a club could sack their fans I reckon you'd all get the chop coz you've done nothing but criticise everyone for the last 10 days. Come on over to Paradise...we'll show you how to do it! lol

Away an listen to your Alison moyets greatest hits pretending your at a karaoke singing into your pretend mic! PaulRFC

LOL,hearing that SIR DAVID ATTENBOURH about to make a documentry,to try save the endangerd species the glasgow bears!stevo

Not much would change if I came over to 'paradise' I would still be posting on a RANGERS site!!

GDog
WATP

Chris you talk one load of sh*te. Go over to your place lmao. They are plenty of emptie seats at your place. 41,000 lmao for a team that are only 3 games away from the title and only 41,000 at last night game lol. You's are all glory hunters. It wisny that long ago you and your fellow porkheed fans were shouting fur lemmons heed. I know you's were ment to give up something fur lent but that's kicking the a*se out of it giving up your seats at porkheed lol. As I said you's are GLORYHUNTERS

Is that the same paradise that couldny be filled even though the titles in the bag , greatest fans in the world ma jacksy , tedbear

You got nothing better to do than comment on our page a guess thats why we are the people .you horrible green monsters just cant get enough of rangers haha. and your talking about our fans lol your stadium is that much of a paradise that use cant get a full house what does that say about your fans ??. WATP always have been always will be.

Chrisbhouy -
Just had a look at your average attendances thro the 60s, 70s, 80s and early 90s.
Only 5 seasons did you average more than 30,000, 4 seasons were under 20,000 with 25 seasons in the 20,000s this included 1994 when F McCann moved in and with a European Cup and 9 in a row.
You're winning the league, looking at a treble and last night you had 45,000, that's 15,000 short of capacity, now that's a gap son!
Iam Legend

Whits the matur wae alisun moyet paul?
remembur no dykey no likey
wee p

Oh dear Paul.....you really are "all cried out" aren't you? lol
I almost feel sorry for you. Almost....but not really! lol

I'd offer you a hug but the shame of it repulses me, quite frankly old chap!

HAIL HAIL
ChrisBhoy

Yeah, Alison moyet. From now on just reply to this guy with Alison moyet.

Oranjeboom

Bet Chrisbhoy looks like alison moyet & a bet if a club could sack it's fans, you's would be first for the chop did you see the photos in the paper on monday a have never seen an uglier support in ma f***in life the village of the damned could replace you's
NTYABOW

Aye, 16,000 Rangers supporters at your game againt Dundee Utd. Don't think you bears can slag anyone about attendances.

Iam legned..... perhaps you could tell us what rangers average attendances where at the same times...remember plenty came out the woodwork when souness came spent millions and supposedly revolutionized scottish football.

23 Feb 2012 16:14:39
Amuses me all the mhanks taking the "morale high ground" it's been a long time coming,every one of them pure scrambling to get the highest...keep climbing tic I want you as high as possible before your fall from "grace"... Must be ripping the ginger ones pride to bits knowing his first an only title can't be taken seriously by anyone outside parkshed... That's why he's so bitter boys... "IF we win... I'll have this to say I'll have that to say" lol say what ya want man your title means p!ss! PaulRFC

Can feel yer pain,lol,a MASSIVE 25point swing in few months,without 10points deduction,swallow that down,lol,rfc seem to forget david murray forced airdrie into liquidation for a mear 30,000!!quoting buissnes is buissnes.well prepare for the tornado that will inflict armagedon in next few weeks ,,,,,,,

His title makes us champions mate.artybhoy

Paul RFC - You're absolutely right. We Tims are just getting higher and higher.

And judging by your rant, you're just getting lower and lower.

Just can't get enough ...........

20pts minus 10pts = 10pts

Aye it was lennon that put yous out 4 cups anaw? away and have a right good greet and accept the best team has won, by a mile! before admin celtic +4 now celtic +10 (without admin points) no argument really, haw haw haw

23 Feb 2012 15:58:46
Aye because there flying up to Inverness instead Timothy

Aye on ali babas magic carpet.

Swiss Toni's private jet lol

23 Feb 2012 15:22:55
So who all going to be wishing that the mighty celts beat Motherwell on Saturday?? Yaz can't win the league but yaz can still come second so what it going to be? I bet little tinkle of a feeling going yes celtic bet Motherwell lol. Don't forget that Craig WHYTE real team. Bigirishmac

DO ONE !! I'd rather poke ma eye oot wi' a shoity stick before I'd want you lot to win ........ I hope ye lose the TOSS !!
That answer yer question ? 'Mon the 'WELL.... TheGersManiac

Well that's two Motherwell supporters we know about, TheGersManiac and Craig Whyte.

Sorry 3, i like to see yous getting pumped in anything yous do.unfortunatly yous now have your first title in 3 years, and what a way to get it against a team falling apart, but heyho life goes on ya rocket never will i want yous clatty manks to win at anything

23 Feb 2012 14:49:23
Will Walter smith be back at Rangers in some kind of role start of next season.
Agree or disagree

Das shadow

Aye shadow watty wul cum bak in a kind ah roll ( cheese in pickle)
hee haw

23 Feb 2012 13:58:18
I think the Rangers administration could not of come at a better time for Mcoist,
It has totaly taken the heat off him, out of 4 cups at early stages, even without the ten point reduction to be 15 points ahead to 7 points behind is unforgivable. Super ally is a legend there is no mistake about that but sadly i think he is not manager class.
pennyboy

Difficult to manage a team that has a small squad when your best player is out for the season, your best striker is sold and your other striker is injured. Europe was disappointing although Whittaker and Bougherra should take the blame for that, we were dominating Malmo and one up then went down to nine men. Although when everyone was fit our league form was great so unfair to judge McCoist.

GovanFR

Posted the same the other week,by saying we dont do walking away he seems to have made the fans forget how inept he actually is as a manager,if the club never went into admin last week how many fans would have been at ibrox against killie?how many would have been calling for super to go because the job is too big for him?dont forget super is on a very handsome wage,you can see why he doesnt do walking away.

10 points

Buddy-hes clearly not manager material hes been pumped out of every cup hes entered and lost a 9 point lead to 10 point deficit, all with a championship winning team!

23 Feb 2012 13:25:28
to the u.k government: save rangers or we all vote for independence >>>
Scotland's oil is still worth £1.2 trillion. British debt sits at £1 trillion. We have a GDP of £140 billion in Scotland annually. We get back £28 billion. Where's the other £112 billion? Nuclear bombs, MPs expenses, illegal wars, infrastructure development and Olympic sites in London and the South East of England. Fair? VOTE YES to let Scotland be free. VOTE YES for a very rich Scotland looking after the Scots.

Sound like the uk government has been screwing us just like craig whyte has... wheres the rest of our money ?

Totally agree with your post mate, if people done a bit of research their selves how much we get robbed and lied to they will be horrified. Rangers are from Glasgow , we need to regain our identity after all this financial recklessness is sorted and aspire to be the greatest club in Scotland, and be proud again of being Glasgow Rangers, let's lose the baggage and move on as a club that every one who follows us can be proud of, no matter If they are Muslim, Sikh or Christian lets hate Celtic for being Celtic, and not for some twisted I'll informed idea of religion, I ask how many folk on here are regular church/ chapel/mosque attendees I bet it's a tiny minority.

I know if i was the uk government i would rather wipe out 75 million hmrc case against rangers than lose 1.2 trillion from scotland (makes perfect sense to me) i am a rangers fan and i used to think we should be in the union until i saw the facts, that scotland is better off not being in the union

Rumour has it that a certain "billionaire" has auctioned the oil to another country and Scotland will have to pay this loan (£7trillion) back over 200 years LOl timalloy

Well SAID m8

Would us becoming independent help Scottish football in any way?

Aye rite pal ah see wher your cumin fae if everyboady votit fur independunce then rangurs tax bill cood go oot the windae correktimundo? iz peepul wid say we dont belang tae yir country,ya crafty wee bissums shhh dont let the revenue hear.....wee pat

Yeah you fail to mention with independence Scotland will also be standing alone wi it's baws out wi no back up then we could end up like Ireland... I've got two kids man an I'm afraid they come first before anything Alec salmonds in a dream if he thinks independence will benefit Scotland... And I would look more into this "we will be rich through oil" really ? Will we ?I don't think it's as cut an dry as that somehow.... I'll never vote for independence. PaulRFC

Eh no. The North Sea oil will run out by 2050, and it's ownership will be subject to legal challenge. What currency would we use? How big would our army be? Major corporations like RBS would not stay in Scotland. What would our credit rating be? It wouldn't be a triple A meaning we pay higher interest rates. If someone can give me answers to these I will vote for independence but it just wouldn't work. Salmond used to say we could be like Ireland and Iceland, well their economies have done well recently haven't they?

GovanFR

Wee Pat what langauge is that you speak ? LOL , CAN SOMEONE INTERPATE PLEASE.

GovanFR:

I agree with you 100%

GDog
WATP

Im happy my original post has stirred up so question, especially from the miss informed.
sounds like my fellow bears have been brainwashed by david cameron and his cronies. i suggest you do some research befor saying scotland would not work as an independent country and stop listing the the downing street scare mongering, wee as scots subsidise the rest of the uk (fact) jsm

Govan fr these questions have all been answered in a document published by the Scottish government, it's entitled your Scotland your future. Anything else your unsure of is easily checked on google, I would have a look at the mccrone report mate, I'm also doing this for my family, can't afford to pay for their education and there health care, check it out it's an eye opener mate.

Er pal if you complain about someone's english (wee Pat in this case) maybe you should look at your own words "interpate" what language is that?
Now to answer above, I love you bears thinking, sing about the queen and wave union jacks, but if SNP save you you will be "loyal" to them, hypocrisy does not even begin to sum you lot up! Timalloy

Interpate???? Pmsl

All you pro-unionist people on here are cowards. If any of you so much as spent 1 hour online looking up hard facts about independence (McCrone Report) for staters you would soon see that Scotland would become one of the richest countries in the world. We would be almost unrivaled.

Some of you all talk about "looking out for your children first", well i have 2 children and independence will give them opportunities well beyond what London ever will. The list of pro's is ridiculous. The very first pro is that we will not become a major target for terrorism, we wont be fueling wars where we help kill millions of innocent people around the globe and we wont have any bloody nuclear weapons.

Thinking about your children? I laugh at those who think about their children through their "imagination", when if they truly thought about their children they'd run away from Westminster and NEVER look back.

WAKE UP PEOPLE...

Tikbo dont knok the boay " interpate"(comes from Italian origin, meaning " to spread generously on a slice of italian bread) iz very tasty oan ah big slice ae muthirs pride fae the posso deli!
fae the man who pit posso oan the map,so its hee haw fae me...............

Timalloy you are in no position to comment about loyalty to a particular nation. Celtic fly Irish flags, yet would hate to be in the Irish league. Hypocrisy

The guy who said we wouldn't be a terrorist target, why not? Would we not align ourselves with the US and England as far as foreign affairs goes? Do you remember the attack at Glasgow Airport, would we have an intelligence service, an army? We would be sitting ducks. Another point for you, Scotland would have one of the highest welfare bills in the world, high unemployment, obesity, smoking, drugs, alcohol. Welfare dependency would be the future.

Simple question for pro-independence people; what currency would we use?

GovanFR

We'll all vote for independance ha ha , nobody believes anything that you lot say , David Cameron knows all you sheep will tow the Lodge line and vote for the Conservative and Unionist party , so i dont think he's gonnae buy that one lol

Govan FR oil as a commodity will only rise in price as it runs out, oil company's tend to underestimate their reserves, but being conservative in their estimates they place it at 1.2 trillion pounds worth, as for a legal challenge if Scotland votes for independence, international law which supercedes Scottish or uk law will state that up to 93% of the fields are in Scottish maritime boundaries . The sea borders were changed in the late 90s transferring 6000 sq miles of Scottish sea to uk control even if you left this as it is now it would only transfer auk and argyll oilfields to uk government, these are small oilfields and are on decline. Although it is widely known that upon voting for independence maritime boundries will revert to pre 1999.

Currency we would retain the pound sterling, which we have as much right to as the rest of uk, you forget that Scotland would own 8.4% of bank of England as it is a uk asset so 8.4% of its reserves would be ours. Sterling which takes it name from Stirling castle which used to be used for weights measurement for grain etc pound Stirling. It's a fully tradeable currency, if and when the time is right the sovereign scottish people would be given a referendum on joining the euro.

The army would become a Scottish defence force much in line with Norway and be around about 25000 personnel , remember we are not attacking anyone so it will be to patrol our shores and protect oil installations, and lend a hand to humanitarian causes where possible. Again we own 8.4% of uk armed forces assets so infra structure already in place, this goes for all uk assets except fixed assets outside Scotland.

As for large companies not trading in Scotland, if you read (McCrone report on oil) it states that Scotland would be able to slash corporation tax so much people would be fighting each other to invest in scotland, it says that we would have an embarrassing surplus and have a currency only beaten by the Norwegian kroner, and be a safe bet for investing in like the Swiss franc. (check out Niall aspens GERS 2006 the great obsification to see the revenue that Scotland generates. And GERS stands for government expenditure receipts Scotland.

As for credit rating that would have to be seen but as we would mirror the bank of England's rates, remember it would not be in the interests of the bank of England to fail its a private company and would be crying out for Scotland's business remember our resources are phenomenal if developed in the right way lets leave a real legacy for our kids, there's loads of this info out there If you want to find it, hope this helps mate. And by the way I'm just a joiner who is rangers through and through, my name is on the John Grieg statue half way down the big list, named after my dads brother, have a research and make you own mind up Alex mci {Ed001's Note - erm, I hate to burst your bubble, but the talk about 'oil running out' is a complete fallacy! You know the Germans developed synthetic oil during World War 2 that can be produced? Also that crops such as rapeseed can be used to produce petrol and diesel? That is why so much of England is covered in fields of rapeseed, the govt started giving farmers a grant to grow it during the fuel crisis in the 70s. The grants still exist and the crops could still be used to produce petrol and diesel.}

GovanFR we could use beer tokens.

We will use the pound and they cant stop us, the pound is an international currency

Yes Ed I know that you can run a diesel car on vegetable oil strait from tesco, also who knows how much oil is left out there, as we get better finding and extracting it, your also correct in that loads of engines run nowadays using fully synthetic oil, it doesn't change the fact that it is only getting scarcer the more we extract it, and the price of it is always going to inflate , don't see petrol and diesel prices getting slashed, and the carry on in Iran will drive it even higher, so I don't see your point about synthetics and such, while there's still oil out there we will spend billions trying to extract it, it is a brilliant asset to have don't you agree

Alex McI {Ed001's Note - no, you are not reading what I said, you can distil proper diesel and petrol from rapeseed, not that you can run a car on veg oil. Two totally different things and you are missing the point completely. Oil is not going to run out, despite the media lies to make the rich oil barons even richer. It can be GROWN, it is not scarce nor is it getting scarcer, it is a fallacy! Even Top Gear did a couple of shows featuring the growing of oil (diesel in that case) and then running vehicles on it. Yet no one seems to have noticed because we are constantly fed lies about its scarcity and how it is running out. Scottish natural gas and oil is a great resource, but of far more long term value is the fact that Scotland has the arable land to grow more and produce their own for the forseeable future.}

If we use the pound then Westminster set our interest rates FACT.

GovanFR

Do you honestly not see the flaw in Scotland as an independent country. Firstly, have you ever heard of democratic deficit. I see a massive flaw in a country like Scotland where we would alternate between nationalist left wing government and Labour (left wing government). You say we could cut corporation tax but where will we find the money to do this, our welfare bill will be massive, probably one of the largest per head in the world. Smoking, obesity, alcohol, drugs are all serious problems in Scotland. Welfare is just one place where we would have serious problems. Another point have you ever noticed how weak our politicians are; Gray, McConnel, Goldie would you really want these people running this country. Currency, we would be subject to Westminster interest rates and the euro won't be around much longer and even if it survives surely you have noticed that a single country doesn't work. Whilst on Europe, we would not be guaranteed EU entry. The credit rating is a serious issue as well we would not have a triple A. If it would work why are all political parties, bar one against it. No Scotland would make it easier for the Tories to win in Westminster and if Scotland was an independent country then the SNP would be a pointless party so Labour would forever govern us.

GovanFR

Right ED I see what you mean, I don't know enough about the production costs involved in biofuels and synthetic oils, all I can say is that 5 litres of synthetic car oil is much dearer than mineral oil, but that would fit with the facts you stated About the oil conglomerates and serious under investment in the bio fuel or alternative fuels shall we say, due to the fact it makes powerful people shed loads of cash and the power it brings, also no idea how much fuel you produce per acre , the environmentalist would go mad if we took over loads of the country for producing fuel, but I agree that it should not be ignored, also the likes of hydrogen could run cars, they say it's cost prohibitive to produce but again could be bulls**t mate. Who knows half the stuff hidden from us by governments and big business. {Ed001's Note - if Scotland were to become independent, they could invest heavily in those areas and give the country something to hold onto for when oil and gas in the North Sea ran out.}

We already have a democratic deficit in Scotland Govan FR, at a general election it makes little difference how we vote, we have 55 Mps and the last two elections before we got the Tory libs when labour won it was by more than 55 seats so it didn't really matter the way we voted England decide who they want and we get that. If independence is voted for in Scotland there would be a shift in Scottish politics. As you state the whole reason for the SNP existing is as a vehicle to independence, there success will be the end of there party as it is just now, there would be new political parties forming and in my opinion giving better balance between right and left, there can be no doubt it will change, again I think it's about choices. I know I support free healthcare and education, if my wee ones are brainy enough to do a degree or that I don't want to have to mortgage the house to be able to send her, I don't want to have to pay for insurance to get treatment for my health again can't afford it, I just think that is what we get taxed for, but wouldn't say I'm pure left wing, I'm not right wing either I just try to see stuff logically and make up my own mind, like why are the emergency services paying vat on fuel, that's mental spend money collecting that tax and it's us that get taxed for it anyway, so sort it make all emergency services run on red or government buy it without tax for them all army as well that's got to be cheaper, on the other hand the likes of Abu quatada and that I would loup them out a plane with a parachute at 20000 ft just my opinions mate thought I would share them here, would never dream of telling anyone this is how it is, we're scots and we have the internet, we can make up our own minds Alex McI

You would like to think so Ed, I would expect it to be a massive part of our energy policy, also remember being told by a very clever old man who has passed that the next world war could well be about water apparently only 1% of water on the earth is drinkable and some frozen at the north and south poles you can see it in the south of England with hosepipe bans. Probably why all the parties in Westminster all want to privatise it up here if they get this Scotland bill approved, won't happen though SNP will not wear it they are trying to grab back planning powers and Scottish water, it's a Trojan horse. But I think it's something we all need to talk about, it's a monumental decision and we need to be sure it's good for our futures. {Ed001's Note - I don't agree on the water thing, it would be very easy, though not cheap, to build desalination plants.}

Ed you are better informed than me on the desalination plants, fortunately in Scotland water is not a problem. But as water is not distributed equally around the world, and not the easiest thing to transport in meaningful quantity it stands to reason that if the technology is there for it it should be researched and developed, for use when needed, lots of technology will never see the light of day because it's profitable to someone that it doesn't . {Ed001's Note - I worked in Dubai for a time and they were able to freely provide water there due to the desalination plants. Always amazed me how hot the cold water could be at times though, unless the company sprung for a posh hotel. I used to buy bottled water to use to brush my teeth rather than risk burning my tongue on the tap water! To be honest, water is easily shipped and stored, well liquid to use to hydrate yourself anyway. Otherwise Coca-Cola and the like would struggle.}

23 Feb 2012 12:47:18
5500 rangers supporters have registered their loyalty by signing up at RANGERS.COM

Yes, but no money has been paid, there is a big difference.

While I admire the intentions of the campaign to save your club, the actions of alot of ppl signing up to donate and the reality of when it come to the act of signing over a cheque in these HARD times may be very different, emotions are running high over this whole mess and I feel that certainly ppl will do this but others may simply put thier name to it as show of defiance for want of a better word. But good luck with it.

So how much has been made money wise? even though its kinda just a trial type thing or is it offical now ed? (LOYAL BEAR) {Ed001's Note - no money has yet been paid, it is just a register of interest at the moment.}

Do you mean SaveRangers.com?

Here boays if ah wiz tae gie sum dough tae the rangurs.con thing wid a get a clubcaird,n double nektur pints??
pp

Nb cheers ed! (LOYAL BEAR) {Ed001's Note - you are welcome mate.}

23 Feb 2012 12:39:25
SaveRangers.com has already had pledges up to the value of just over £4 million, only 4,600 people have pledge. A great effort so far but more people are needed.

GovanFR

You have to vertify your email address to make it official too in case nobody has done that yet.

How do you know that?

Thats an average of £869 a supporter, very much doubt it.

I just pledged THREE ZILLION POUNDS!
well it's as believable as all the others LOL Timalloy

There is a very big difference between a pladge with all the euphoria going on, and people parting with hard earned cash.

The RST have confirmed that total. It is FACT.

No one is doubting that the total pledged is fact, what is in doubt is that the people then making these pledges will committ to making the actual apyments.

I am pledging to lose a couple of stones and win the Marathon at the London Olympics.See how easy it is to make a pledge

Rite timbo ahl see yir 3 zillyun n raise ye anithur zillyun, fk this munopilys great intit boays am jist lookin fur murry park oan ma board ae glesga munopily cannae see it wit diz that mean??
dye think wee craigo's hauf inched it the wee scallywag?
wee pat,cmon boays yuv goat tae huv a wee laff lifes shoartur thin wee craigos troozurs!!!!!n heez a 22 inch leg in fakt hes jist stole wee jimmy krankies strides, thurs nae haudin this man bak, noo heez goat the taste fur ah bit ae theft

23 Feb 2012 12:19:10
I think whyte is an utter disgrace for selling the arsenal shares, unbelieveable, for 100k aswell? what did he use that for singing matt mckay? i absolutely despise him fo this and wish he would get 10 years in prison, and get punished for what he done, 102 years of heritage and history flung away we owe arsenal an apology {Ed001's Note - did he sell them to Usmanov? I remember there were rumours flying about he had bought more shares for a ridiculous amount, the highest ever paid for Arsenal shares.}

The purchase price was £230k.

23 Feb 2012 11:48:58
Just a thought - While i agree that some of the singing at Ibrox was totally unacceptable at the weekend ( I was there and though here we go again when it started ), and i'm not going to defend it at all, however it would be nice to see the SPL take a more balanced view as there were clearly unacceptable songs being sung at Tynecastle a couple of weeks ago by both sets of fans when Celtic were playing Hearts but there's been no invesigation around this. Like i say its unacceptable and undefendable but in some ways it seems easier to kick us when we're down than look at other teams supporters too. And while i'm talking of other teams supporters I'm sickened by some of the chants from the Aberdeen fans when they come to Ibrox but nothing's ever mentioned about that either.
Scoobs

Agree with you Scoobs
our club were investigated last year about the singing and now it your turn.
aberdeen hearts killie motherwell aint no angels either in me eyes but nothing will be said about them
make you wonder though how that on worldwide radio people can sing about E's being good and how knocking off a cop and carrying guns is ok

and if anyone has heard Cher Lyolld singing now thats criminal

Lubo25

Agree 100% mate! Not that I would say singing songs of a offensive nature is acceptable but people need to lightin up a bit! I have plenty of friends that support both sides of the old firm and sit together through games! And laugh about songs and comments made by both sides! in fact it's only an excuse to have a go from the Scottish government!

23 Feb 2012 11:19:18
Just been on the celtic page for the 1st time, had to give it a 2nd look as i thought it was another gers page. Looks like they all have a intrest in the gers lads. TODD88

And whay are you talking about, Celtic. Pot, kettle and black?

Why would they not be interested in closest rivals downfall

23 Feb 2012 10:57:54
ed any truth in they cant find the jelavic money or is that a stupid question, surely he has broken the law by now.. craig+babybear {Ed001's Note - I am sure that Everton would have ensured they paid it into the correct place, or they could later be accused of not paying. So, if the first payment has gone missing, then questions do need to be asked. The problem is that, as owner, he can take money out of the club, up until it went into admin. Ridsdale, and the rest of the board, gave himself a huge payout, just before Bradford went into admin. While it was disgusting and immoral, it was not illegal unfortunately.}

The Jelavic deal is based on staged payments. The administrators have confirmed the initail payment has gone into Rangers bank account.

Cheers ed nothing suprises any more.. craig+babybear {Ed001's Note - I would not say that mate, life has a way of proving us wrong and I don't think you could handle many more surprises coming out of Ibrox!}

23 Feb 2012 10:34:33
Recently I noticed a lot of the
Rangers Fc (IN ADMINISTRATION) fans
referring to Ibrox as the "Big House"
here in Glasgow most people who live
here associate the "Big Hoose" with
Barlinnie Prison! (just a wee thought )
Timalloy

The big hoose must stay open... as a tesco.

Timalloy STOP having thoughts about wee. You'll do yourself an injury X
Jog on
Blue Knows

23 Feb 2012 10:19:16
Rangers running out of cash.

There is only one home game within the next calendar month. With around 10,000 season tickets on sale the income from the gate will be only citca £250k. The catering is already franchised out, so no income from there. Very little other income available.

Whyte had stated operating costs are £3.75m a month, and this is backed up by previous seasons audited accounts.

If Rangers do not get any cash in then they will be trading insolvently and the administrators will have no option under their legal duty but to put the club into liquidation.

Johnston can demand all the enquiries and challenges to Whyte's takeover that he wants, but these will be legally challenged by Whyte, and will take months to resolve, so are completely irrelevant to Rangers survival.

It very much looks like the club will be liquidated within the next 2 - 4 weeks.

When's your legends game?Can't there be people with buckets at the gates collecting to keep club going through this period?

Jungle Bhoy.

Aye and look how good whytes lawyers are , im sure if there is enough evidence against whyte he will get hammered and i also think sfa etc will look to hammer him and not rangers because we do need rangers no matter what some deluded people say. he can get removed legally and hopefully will.

23 Feb 2012 09:57:24
If Rangers management have a brain between them they will refuse all away tickets from now to end of season,therefore making the selling club responsible for the actions of fans they sell indiscriminately too

23 Feb 2012 09:12:30
What would be the situation of we win the tax case? No bank debt, no big tax case debt and from what I gather we'd have the wee tax case (£4m) and the recent inpaid tax of (9m) that's £13m overall debt.

I'd happily sell a few assets eg Mcgregor, Whittaker, Davis to pay that off then leave us debt free. We'd then have 3 years without the full season ticket income so we'd have to operate without full income.

Also the JJB deal runs out in 4 years time so we'd have our merchandising rights back after that. Kit deal is up for renewal next year as well so could bring in someone like Adidas which would increase shirt sales.

If we could come out of admin operating on an even keel (spending what we generate) then I think we could be in a strong position. We'd have to operate a policy of nurturing talent and have a wage cap similar to Blackpool but what I'm trying to say is it's not all doom and gloom. Just have to wait and see what happens with the tax case tbh.

We don't do walking away.

Rossco Cyprus Bear

So basically in the sh1t for the next 4 years.

HMRC appeal and you stilll have a dud in charge

I think no matter what happens we have to expect to not really be challenging for the next few years tbh. I'd rather see Mcoist gone and get in Billy Davies. It's more important for us to be sorted out as a business then we can start looking at challenging again. Don't ever want to be in this situation again

23 Feb 2012 08:54:33
Everyone if you have the money I know how tough it is these days but get on saverangers.com and help save our great club. "We don't do walking away"

Billyboy1

23 Feb 2012 08:25:15
Surely if its now proven that Craig Shyte used Rangers future income to fund his takeover then his Creditor status should be removed?
So I can go into any business offer to clear the debt, become owner then reveal actually the debt is not cleared just moved from £18m to Llyods TSB to £24 to another organisation (ticketus) and the company is still responsible for paying it and NOT the owner??
On another note when is a decision on big tax case likely?
I thought it was meant to be end of Feb to start of March but have heard posters on here stating April I wandered if you could clarify Ed?

Rangers Will NOT Die!!
theglasgowranger {Ed001's Note - no one knows when the decision will be given, that is why it is so vague, all people can do is give a best guess based on similar cases. There aren't too many similar cases to this on which to base it! Difficult as it is, you just have to wait and see, and hope it won't be too much longer.}

23 Feb 2012 07:39:05
Man goes into an antiques shop in glasgow & says 2 the guy behing the counter how much for the brass cat in the window,the guy says 500 quid for the cat & 500 quid for the story of the cat the guy says al just have the cat,so he leaves the shop & goes down the street when about 10 cats start following him,he gets down the next street & about 100 cats are following, so the guy is getting worried & starts 2 run down the next street & about 5000 cats are following him,so he runs 2 the nearest bridge & throws the cat into the clyde,so the next day he goes back 2 the antiques shop & the guy behind the counter says aha back for the story of the cat 2 which the guy says am a f*** have you got any brass tims. morning folks
NTYABOW

Had to laugh at that one NTYABOW
and in memory of Frank Carson who sadly passed away last night

it's a cracker

Lubo25

23 Feb 2012 01:25:42
I'll hazard a very un-educated guess an say this time in two weeks we will no the tax case result.... What ya think ed? PaulRFC {Ed001's Note - I really have no idea, I thought we would have had the result by now to be honest.}

Are we going to get some warning like? Or will it be a case of a two bob press conference hastily arranged with in the hour... Or maybe the admins find out then tell us? PaulRFC {Ed001's Note - the courts will announce a verdict, I would expect that to be everywhere within minutes.}

Ed001; i think in a case like this the admin team will be informed by a hand delivered letter {Ed001's Note - yes but is it also not true that they are obliged to say nothing until the announcement is made? I am sure they will be just waiting with the texts typed up ready to send etc.}

Read somewhere that due to the complexity of the case it might be April. I am more concerned about recent developments of the admin lads having difficulties getting to the cash, I fear we may yet end up in liquidation before any tax decision.

23 Feb 2012 00:56:10
20 shiny new points ahead little bears!

How much does it hurt? I reckon it must hurt a lot. It hurts doesn't it? Isn't it a stinker of a feelin bears? Don't you just wanna cry? Or are you, in the words of the Alison Moyet song, "all cried out"?

To avoid further sadness I reckon we should ask the powers that be to give you back your 10 points....and we'll still win it by 10 or more.

Yes, it certainly is a Condor moment!

WOO HOO

Lenny is the Man!
ChrisBhoy

Knowing the words to an Alison moyet song says all we need to no about you! PaulRFC

20 points in front wooooo, we got 9 before you, my dads bigger than your dad, blah blah blah you sad sad person.

Canyousaybanana!!

1 season with assistance of a conman and 10 points screwing us

Wait till next year owned by likely Hunter or Douglas Park consortium

Then we see how you face up to playing on a level field except against Hibs

IF you win then fair and square Rangers have basically been sabotaged this season by that animal Whyte and whilst I agree you lot playing well and great run , credit where it is due , it is a different matter when you under pressure , I point out the 3 out of four final game triumphs for Rangers when the pressure was on.

Lets see next year.

George

Your team only prospers when rangers decline! weve out fought, overcame and beaten your mob with a much much weaker squad in recent times- everyone knows you were handed this title you didnt win it! but when your team dont win titles for so long with the "strongest" team your mob will take anything handed to it! rats feeding of crumbs-enjoy it while it lasts!
stg

Almost hurts as bad as losing by 1 goal or 1 pt, ah good times. The taste of your pain by just failing was sooooooo sweeeeeeet. Already written of this season.

The time we as Celtic supporters lost the league by the 1point and 1goal where a real kick in the baws but I really believe that Celtic would have still won the league this year ally has had an easy time from my bluenose friends he has won only 1cup game he has been involved in to abroath and lost a 15 point lead at the top of the table most of this before there was any talk of going into admin so can't really use that as an excuse just don't think ally is up to the job at the minute IMO . Please don't think I dislike ally I don't I think ally Walter and our tommy burns are all the same we all have a liking for them but bears ask yourself this would u put up with ally's record if it was p l g still in charge??