Rangers Banter Archive February 23 2014

 

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23 Feb 2014 18:12:36
Fans should never feel that they are not able to constructively criticise the team.
However, our performance this year has been almost faultless at least as far as results are concerned.
One draw does not mean anything.
The playing side is not the issue.
Of course we will need to get better as we go up the leagues but that problem is not with us now.

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What planet do come fae planet ally if we don't wake an smell the cofee we won't win first division without major surgery or maybe u were put to sleep in the nine in a row era and brought back at hogmanay and been blotto scince

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Ibj think your the one that's blotto, you post a lot a p*** on this all the time.
The results have been faultless this season, don't start about the standard of football, what a stupid excuse that is to moan about something. The players are continually getting accused of not being good enough to play for rangers, and the same people also expect them to play flawless football get a grip

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I think he has been on the sauce the doom n gloom sauce let's just get back to the top league it might not be the best football but we are on track we read on here how bad Ally is well I go to most games and on Sat it was as poor as I've seen but the players must take a look at themselves defence was shocking Temps was terrible in fact the only pass marks for me was law black Wallace and keeper you can't play pretty football with more than half your team taking the day off

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@ OP surely that is 2 draws and a defeat- to Forfar. Unfortunately results with far from flawless performances are fair emptying Ibrox.
Johncass hats of to you your like a terrier wie a bone in defence of Super Ally.
But to all the Ally is doing fine thank you men who now realise we need young players because we are beyond skint- that is only part of the equation you then have to convince the manager to play these talented youngsters.
And John - Robertson in the Scotland squad, Gasparatto in the Canadian squad but Cribari only in Ally's squad.
If you were the parent of a talented youngster would you be happy with him going to Ibrox where our record on bringing through youngsters is probably the worst in Scotland?

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@3 all these players are Ally's players if they aren't performing how is it not his fault? Shouldn't a good manager be able to motivate his players? Law plays better when Black is not in the team and we looked good at the start of the season and the two recent games against Dunfermline but it is Ally's team and Ally's tactics that are seeing Ibrox emptier week on week.
BUT what worries me more than anything is after costs of between £5-6 Million we were left with £17 million in December 2012 but to see out this season we need a further £1. 5 Million- i. e £18. 50MILLION extra funding/loan over and above regular income or £1 million a month shortfall- which from memory is the amount Bill Miller told represented his biggest concern about our club.
In addition to serious cost cutting we need to find massive increase in turnover and forget investment which will only paper over the cracks but do nothing to sort out the massive bl~~dy holes in our economic model.

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@ no 2, you're the one who is talking out of your last three letters. when the playing budget is 70 times your opposition, then people are perfectly entitled to complain about tactics and performances.

shiels has scored a few goals recently, but is dropped by yosser so little can play, and gasparatto still can't get ahead of cribari.

yosser has said that once the league is won, that he'll play more youth players, but I don't remember more youth being included last season, when gallacher could have been played instead of alexander.

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Nbear I don't beileve ally is totally perfect but some criticism on here, has really been scraping the barrel. I fully agree that the youngsters, should start to get game time, and hopefully we will see that over the coming games

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John cass if u think everything is rosy on the football side of u are talking 10 times more p@''''s than me I tell things the way they are if u think that team with present management team will get promotion next year with hearts etc think again its no certainty

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Nbear2 100%

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Anybody who pays to watch aor has shares have the right to be critical just as much as those employed by the club need to listen to what being said but at the minute macoist does not appear to do that it would also help if mr wallace would give us a we bit info of what he is going to do rather than fuelling speculation by saying nothing the survey is only a way of buying time an deflecting away from what's happening but having said that he must be given a chance to get on with the job

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The playing side IS one of the issues!

Stenhousemuir moved the ball quicker than us for their first two goals. A hedgehog can coss the road quicker than we knock the ball from one side to the other. Our equaliser is how it should be done ALL the time!

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Ally mcoist is a terrible manager tactically naive and can't attack teams the trams in front of you are garbage and you should be where you are its not something to celebrate being top of a league which contains part time teams lol ally has pulled the wool over your eyes on several occasions starting with his supposedly pay cut as a matter of fact its a deferral that he will get in the future while he sits back and watches as players are asked to take pay cuts also donating his shares so he didn't need to vote against the spivs who pay him nicely who would if they were getting his wage the man cannot manage enjoy trying to win your amazing treble waaahaaaaaaaaaa
what an achievement that would be but to try and say that's a treble then how the mighty have fallen to levels unknown lol

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Dont know if previos post is a bear or atim but he is as sur hell right

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Nbear2 your post n4 its perfect mate well in yes

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23 Feb 2014 14:53:01
Why do you not post my messages, I tell the truth and I state facts, nothing else, there is so much crap posted on here we are all forgetting what's really going on. so what's your problem?

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{Ed039's Note - To tell you truth most of your posts are just wee one line posts that are rubbish and add very little to conversations and say the same things over and over again)

Correct edmundo

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Totally agree with you ed on your assessment of SPIVSOUT posts, it is the same old doom & gloom drivel he continually posts repeating it over & over again, spivsout posts are always on the negative side of our great club ie. his glass is always half empty instead of half full, who needs celtic fans as enemies when we've got so called supporters like SPIVSOUT!

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{Ed039's Note - Alot of negative posts BR, so it has nothing to do with that)

SPIVS OUT,

You do not post facts or the truth, you speculate negatively based on malicious rumour.
The facts are this, until we see the interim accounts we do not know the full financial picture, it could be serious or it could be manageable.
The CEO has come out once again and stated no administration, he is not a spiv.

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Ed 39. You have got some cheek, you rubbished me a while back only to waken up to the same conclusions months later, My views unlike yours will never change, I smelt a rat from day 1, with Whyte and then Green, and the rubbish that there at the moment including Wallace, Rangers will never be anything again with this lot at the helm, maybe just maybe you will agree with me again (eventually), so go back to being the boss again and playing silly c***s with the majority of the pathetic blind fans out there talking crap and missing the real issue's, ADMIN 2 HAS TO HAPPEN FOR OUR SAKE.

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{Ed039's Note - funny, you have only been posting for a few months, if you don't like what you hear then you are under no obligation to post)

@3, you do spivs out an injustice. you go on about facts, but you're not open to anyone's viewpoint but your own. if, as you say, we will not go into administration, then why did we need a £1.5 million loan? why is the loan to be paid back in shares?

fans who keep their heads in the sand are going to kill our club. before the agm, there were protests online and at games against the board and their unnamed shareholder groups. what's changed since then? apart from stockbridge leaving, absolutely nothing! it's still the same board and backers. all we get is spin, some of it quite ridiculous, from the chairman who can't remember who hired him, to the manager who didn't read his extremely lucrative contract.

two years ago, only a couple of hundred people had purchased season tickets, and green was in a flap. without the season tickets, green had no money. I think green would have gone crawling to mr mccoll and begged him to buy rangers. it didn't happen, and why? because yosser mccoist then stood up and backed green, and the fans bought their tickets, saving green.

i wish fans would waken up.

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Hughphil,

Everyone is entitled to an opinion, this does not mean the opinion is fact, stating administration has to happen is not a fact. A 1.5 million loan is not evidence Rangers will go into administration, it is evidence of a cash shortfall this year.
I am quite happy to wait on the interims before I speculate on this years finances and the performance of the Board, claiming everyone is a spiv trying to rob Rangers is schoolboy stuff.

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Thts right I say there will be no administration they would not have put money into lose it its allright daying they have security security only amounts to what someone will pay what were rangers worth but greenpicked it uf 2 ballond and a lucky bag

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Spiv - what's the new date for admin, you been through every month from About august last year to February this year, so when is it now?

your credibility might become questionable if you don't get it right soon

JG

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23 Feb 2014 13:02:46
As we've all heard from our ceo graham wallace saying that one of his main priorities is setting up a new scouting network to identify young up & coming talent as gone are the days of us spending massive transfer fees & so it should be and I totally agree that a new chief scout & scouting network is definitely a priority, this is the area we have to spend any money we have on, I've heard many stories of who our new chief scout is going to be ie. brian laudrup, arthur numan, paul sturrock, rino gattuso, john park etc, I personally would love to have either brian laudrup or arthur numan as ou new chief scout, has any other 'bear heard anything on who our new chief scout is likely to be & who do other 'gers fans want, so this is the question I'd like to throw out there

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Yes we need a scouting system but first and foremost we must get costs sorted and a better class of product on the park or it will be pointless or the attendaces will go back to john greigs era that's all got to be sorted before we spend any more money

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So far the attendances have not returned to the John Greig era, just the standard of football, if fact its worse,

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Exactly on what planet was the person on who told you that John Park is going to leave Celtic to come to Rangers? Best point of this year. Keep it real people

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Agree we need a scouting network it's a disgrace it was done away with but bit of warning here remember if we start now it will take four to five years before we would see any of these young players come through and then it's only a very small number that will make it so we will still have to bring in players by transfer if we are going to challenge Celtic or play in Europe again so it's going to be a long hard road

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24 Feb 2014 10:47:25
Firstly yes we do urgently require a new scouting system. Its beyond ridiculous that we don't have one now. BUT that only works if u have a management team who understand what that means and knows how to draw the best from young talent. We don't have that. There are many good coaches out there who are gifted in encouraging and nurturing talenteed boys. Davies. mcinnes. and even steve bruce. we have a manager brought up in Walters image. Worked with money. No good without. We desperately need Ally to step aside at seasons end. Then get the correct people to take us forward. Pleas Ally do the right thing. Take the 2 titles you won. and god willing the scottish cup. altho I doubt that very much. And let the club move forward
tomblue

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-BIG RAM I think some of the names you have mentioned as scouts, have been in your better dreams.
the guys name I`ve heard, who has been approached, and says he will take the job at the end of the season is Neil McCann.
Makes sense to me Rangers man, with a good football brain and doing similar job at Dunfermline.
bluebeard

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Bluebeard, I'm the original poster of the scouting network that needs to be put in place pronto, if you don't mind me asking was it a very reliable source that told you that our ex winger neil mccann is going to be our new chief scout, although I mentioned the likes of laudrup, numan etc in my op, I would be very happy if it's true & neil mccann does become rangers new chief scout, I totally agree with you that mccann has a very good football brain & can spot a good young player when he sees one, he's doing a terrific job with the dunfermline young players just now so bluebeard I hope your source is spot on & neil mccann does become our new chief scout, there will be no complaints from me if he does

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23 Feb 2014 12:44:25
@ Nbear2

you responded to an earlier post I made with the following

@4 LB can I just point out that Moses McNeil with the other 3 (4 actually) pioneers were from Argyll and not nasty Invernesshire but otherwise I agree with your post 100%

i am well aware Moses McNeil comes from Rhu and he is burried at St Modan's Churchyard at Rosneath. which I can see from my bedroom window.

i at no time even hinted he was from Inverness-shire I assume that because my non de plume is Lochaber bear you took it I was from Inverness-shire I would like to point out to you that Inverness-shire and lochaber are to different areas as the Ed will confirm

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Just one more point on the great Man

if you read Rangers v Stirling Albion 140 years Rangers football club commemorative souvenir program 8th December 2012 you will see that those people in charge of the club at the time could not even get the correct burial site of one of our great founders right they have stated Moses is buried at Cardross Cemetery when infact he is buried in St Modan's church Rosneath

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Well said LB my tongue was firmly in my cheek with the comment about inverness-shire but I bow to your superior knowledge of the great man.

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23 Feb 2014 11:05:41
It baffles me that cribari is anywhere near our first team after last season, him and Perry where both garbage, Johncass I read you asking if players clubs would've let them go for nothing, most championship, league 1 or league 2 players are only on 1 year contracts.

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The thing is the bad signings were the ones mentioned earlier Kyle, Sandaza, Cribari, Foster, Smith, Simonsen. Maybe Peralta & Faure but they're Younger one an full nternational one coming from a top youth system. Instead of bringing in guys looking for big wages we could have kept Healy upfront for a season or 2 with Little & Jig if needed tried to get Hemmings in the side a bit more, I don't know what McCabe was on before but I'd be surprised if it's what Blacks on now but I would've begged him to stay & built the team around him & Mcleod. This one maybe a pipe dream but imagine we could've Also convinced Ness to stay & had a midfield 3 of McLeod Ness & McCabe 3 upfront Temps Little McKay/Aird & just for good measure back 4 of Wallace Jig Gaspa & Mcausland that would have excited the fans & cheap to sustain this would need a capable manager with vision to succeed though I think Ness was on 10k plus & they both left so that's probs a bit far out I believe atleast one of them could've been convinced but lol. The 2 young midfielders had other plans and there doing very little this season down South but that's the players we had to go all out on keeping & I wouldn't hesitate to bring them back when the times right because they're talented. Went off topic a bit but my point is No one moaned about the signings of Law, Sheils, Daly, Mohsni, Clark & Bell they were great free transfers. I'd have tried to play hardball with the wages though & maybe offered a small increase taking it to a decent wage upon arrival of the top league. If Sandazas contracts anything to go buy Rangers basic wages were starting high & I imagine more than his was going up into the crazy for The now Championship & Premiership I'm aware Blacks goes up every season too. We've done everything wrong from day one after liquidation even the good things all have bad points and it's clear to see it's starting to take it's toll & drive fans away.

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Thats what I have said but now is the time to take the bull by the horns and let g wallace sort it out personel changes must be made in a manner nothing short of brutal but this is the time to carry them to give us the push to to next stage and changes at the top must come first

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Sweep most championship, league 1 an 2 players, should be no were near ibrox, in fact tell me 11 players we could have got for nothing from these leagues, you can include players from last season too, al start you off with everyone's favourite player Andy robertson

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{Ed039's Note - Cass, we played against Robertson and Lawrence Shankland last season and seen that they were right good players and they were available for nothing at the end of the season, no disrespect to Stevie Smith and Nicky Clark but have they contributed more than these guys would have this season and on probably a good bit more money than Shankland and Robertson?)

That's not my job, that's our scouts and management teams job, nowhere near ibrox? Where do we start? Simonson, smith, foster, cribari, Perry, Fauré, Blackie, Hutton, Kyle, sandaza, shiels, Greek boy from last season, Stella, should any of these duds be anywhere near ibrox?

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Well that's were we are now sweep playing league 2 an 1 ain't a big draw for really good players, ally would have got slaughtered if he tried to sign a team of players from these leagues.
Shiels ain't a dud, he's a good player, just injury prone. Yes they are 2 good players we could have signed ed, Nicky Clark is a good example 40 odd goals for qos last year, yet disappointing this season for rangers.

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(Ed039s Note - Management of Clark or tactics? Of course he has also had some injury issues but what I have seen of him has mostly been poor but he hasnt had a proper run and will reserve judgement on him)

Sweep 1 were you at Ibrox on Saturday.
Nicky Law won the man of the match but Ian Black was oustanding alongside Law.
If we want to release anyone start with Cribari, and Fauré.

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Copland1 your kidding yourself, outstanding? How can a holding midfielder who is part of a team who has lost 3 goals to a part time team be outstanding, Messi is outstanding Ian black is poor, end of.

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Ask sweep who can we get gallacticos brasilian super stars what we need is eleven triers with a bat of skill does not matter wheretyey come from

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Don't think it's either, he's just been poor, at the start of the season, should ally have signed injury prone Jon daly with no sell on value or this young scot with sell on potential, who has just banged 40 odd goals in the league we will be in.

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Sorry sweep to your name in vane should have been j cass

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Sweep1 agree that we should not be conceding three goals at Ibrox in SPFL, but you do have to question why Cribari was preferred to Gasparato.
As to Ian Black I thought he had a good game alongside Law but overall it was a poor team performance with two debateable penalty decisions.

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23 Feb 2014 10:04:22
Oh sh** once again the players did not perform so let's blame the manager. becoming tiresome! look back. at results seems to to me players are frightened, talk of wage cuts, speculation about administration, green saying we're a c**p team and we drop points, knocked out of cup. no? Think about it!
r. f

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The manager picked the team.

The fans are saying we want more communication with the board, want honesty and transparency. The same should be expected of McCoist and if he has no faith in Murray Park and is not prepared to give the youth a chance he should hold his hands up and tell us fans where he stands.

Then at least we know why he played yesterday's team. No use in him getting angry and shouting and playing the same team next week. Take action, drop players and give others a chance. Yesterday was a disgrace and we're going to bleed support if we go on like this.

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23 Feb 2014 14:39:10
kfraser how can you so completely change your point of view overnight? For months you've been backing Ally to the hilt, to the point where people have been wondering how you manage to keep the pages of the rangers annual from sticking together when you put it down at night. But now you're coming out with stinging criticism that your idol is responsible for a "disgrace". Just find it a bit weird when you've previously been so utterly critical of other people voicing that same opinion. You've even suggested that people are damaging the club by not getting behind the manager and the team. Ally's still won virtually every game, which is the stat you've used time and again to dispel criticism of him. So what's changed? Just doesn't add up that someone could completely change like that all of a sudden. Anyone else noticed too that or do I need to lay off the tequila?

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@1 I thought the Ed and Bigcol sorted out who picked the team yesterday but welcome back from the dark side. @ OP The rest of us would take you Super Ally men a bit more seriously if you could occasionally lighten up and introduce a little bit of levity in your posts. They are all tinged with anger and angst and won't admit the blooming obvious that only Ally thinks Cribari should be in before Gasparrato amongst other puzzling decisions

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The manager picked the team told them what the tactics would be and once again mince and def not steak mince

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The defence was a shambles v Stenhousemuir apart from Bell and Wallace.
Would have preferred to see Gasporotto alongside McCulloch, and Foster starting at RB.
Cribari and Faure in my opinion should nevet be in McCoists starting 11.

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Ff that's probably one of the few things that charles ever said that was accurate

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23 Feb 2014 09:48:07
we don't do walking away ally should be made walk away probably with his coaching staff we hear about 5 year plans it won't be 5 years it will be almost 8 if his contract is a rolling iyear one take the hit now get some one in on realistic wage I manager I assistant not a full bus shelter full cash wise theif it was done right it would not cost any more if something isn't done now the crowds will dwindle away then we are in the mire let's face it what enjoyment is there going to wach week in week out then listen to the drivle ally comes out with in interviews ally has had almost 3 years down south the sort of dross we have to watch they would be gone in 3 months

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23 Feb 2014 05:39:55
Talking about maintaining high standards, referring to pre match hotel stays, perhaps priorities would be the pitch at Ibrox. I know the weathers not been too kind but that shouldn't be an excuse.

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Pitch is the same for both teams but its only matter of time to ally blames the pitch

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@op the problem is they are NOT spending any real money on the pitch and the lighting system is used only sparingly rather than over night or 48hours which is what they where designed for after all this is purely down to costs!

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22 Feb 2014 23:09:02
Nice to see jelavic on fire down south cracking player!

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