Rangers Banter Archive June 23 2011

 

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23 Jun 2011 23:14:18
Relax, folks. I can sense a few people are starting to get a bit apprenhensive but lets look at the bigger picture here - Hemed had a good offer, Whitty has a peach of an offer and we decided not to bother with Conway. Whats the problem here? There's a long way to go. IMO we'll land Cuellar in a few days and everyone will be up on cloud four in a row. thepundit

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Well said my man. All of the doubters should take a chill pill. Let the guys do there work. If we start the season without any new faces then you can let your bellys rumble. Simples.

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23 Jun 2011 23:01:04
Wot is so attractive to playn in the championship fightn relegation, or play offs to the prem? Ok players are just after more money they will go to average teams in championship but in they must lack ambition! a would rather go to a team playn to win the league, win cups and get the chance to play european football! Maybe am lookn thro my blue tintd glasses! Rab

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23 Jun 2011 22:35:56
Whytes stance on transfer negotiation appears to be sound, he is the business expert after all. Paying above the odds is not viable, we've been there. Let's just wait and see who signs.

I'd like to see goodwillie, cuellar, bartley come in and think we will still bring in some European talent with sell on value.

Need a midfielder to give davis some support, Bullards not the answer.

We need strength and depth in all areas but I hope that the young lads continue to get 1st team chances.

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23 Jun 2011 22:35:16
if the turks can hand out 30 and 40k in wages per week surely it wouldnt be a problem to ask 2mill for whitts?

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23 Jun 2011 22:14:27
to everyone who said whyte must be backed - weve lost 2 players already and as i said a few days ago were going to miss out on goodwillie. cardiff reportedly have a massive budget and malky mackay is a big fan, couple this with whyte tightness.

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I smell celtic bulls**t were not for paying over the odds transfer season doesnt start until july 1st so stop crying big rab by the way

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23 Jun 2011 22:12:38
I would not make whittaker one of our top paid players ! Call his bluff take the million from bursapour and get someone else in ! Also pay the cash for cuellar Mr Whyte before we lose A real player !!

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Spot on there mate! hes the most inconsistent player i have ever seen as well!! lets get a reliable right bk in!

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23 Jun 2011 22:01:39
I think Whittaker and is agent are getting above their stations. The guy has rejected a increase of 3 times his current wage, if so then let him go. Take the money from someone and reinevest it. He wont be missed much

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Should never get another contract, poor poor defender, cannot read the game and keeps getting caught out of position by good players

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23 Jun 2011 21:47:31
Billy b ur tokn pi5h m8 the boys gt ambition n wants tae play for rangers he will b a ger at sum point he aint in toks wae cardiff cny c it anywhere unless u n goodwillie are best buds n he tld ye. We wil get um mayb 1.5 mil . Watchd craig whytes interview on ssn he said none of our players are for sale there buildn a team nt dismantelin 1 he also said we have bids in for several players.Brogie 82

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Ur talking pi5h pal the guy is rank rotten an getting to big for his boots i wid bite there hand aff for 1mill for him he cant defend an cant cross a ball let him go to turkey like miller an realised he has made a mistake

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Thanks for that mate , i wouldnt just make up s**te i heard from a guy on my facebook football rumours who is mates with goodwillie and told the rumour thing last week that he was with goodwillie and goodwillie says conway is going to cardiff then bang conway away to cardiff ... the same guy said that goodwillie is in talks with cardiff tonight so im sorry that i believe him cause hes been right up till now

Goodwillie will sign for cardiff in next 48 hours he has travelled there this evening for talks
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Greig Taylor My brother James Taylor told me this earlier tonight on the phone!
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Robert Love why didn't u post it then?
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Greig Taylor He mentioned it to me as a thought rather than it being an actual rumour after he spoke with him (Goodwillie) and he told him Conway was away to Cardiff - which he did!..wish I had posted it now!
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23 Jun 2011 21:33:20
I think a squad consisting of a minimum of 24 players is necessary to compete for all 3 domestic competitions, and to be able to hold our own in the Champions League group stages, potentially getting to the last 16 which would be a massive achievement.

I feel we need to add:

- 2 Centre Backs
- 1 Right Back
- 1 Left Back
- 1 Centre Mid
- 2 Wingers
- 2 Strikers

My choices for these positions would be:

CB:
Carlos Cuellar (£2m)
Kyle Bartley (£1.5m)

RB:
Phil Bardsley (£1.5m)

LB:
Lee Wallace (£750k)

CM:
Neil Danns (Free)

RW/LW:
Vladimir Weiss (Loan)
Chris Eagles (£3m)

ST:
David Goodwillie (£1.5m)
David Nugent (Free)

I would also get rid of a few players, these would be:

Whittaker (£1m- obviously wants to chase money)
Bougherra (£1.5m)
Edu (£1m- murder)
Beattie (£500k- too old and too slow)
Weir (Retire- possible coaching role)

So my Ins and Outs would potentially amass to:

In- £4m
Out- £9.25m

Providing we have the reported £12m to play with, there would be £5.75m available for wages of new signings, and new contracts of existing players.

New deals should be offered to:

- Allan McGregor
- Steven Davis
- Nikica Jelavic

Squad for Season 2011-12

1. Allan McGregor (captain)
2. Phil Bardsley
3. Lee Wallace
4. Kirk Broadfoot
5. Sasa Papac
6. Lee McCulloch
7. Vladimir Weiss
8. Steven Davis (vice captain)
9. David Goodwillie
10. John Fleck
11. Kyle Lafferty
14. Steven Naismith
15. Neil Danns
16. Jamie Ness
17. Chris Eagles
18. Nikica Jelavic
19. Dave Nugent
20. Kyle Hutton
21. Kyle Bartley
22. Darren Cole
23. Gregg Wylde
24. Carlos Cuellar
25. Neil Alexander
31. Grant Adam

I think this is a squad that has a good mix of youth and experience. It would certainly compete with Celtic in the SPL, and has enough depth to last a title run, as well as runs in both cups and in Europe hopefully.

Just my personal opinion of course.

What do you think Ed?

{Ed010's Note -I think that you're trying to check if I actually read posts but your litt;e ruse will not catch me out. Firstly, your "Ins" total £10.25m and your "Outs" total £4m but you already knew that because you managed to get the correct figure of £5.75m left for wages.

Overall a good squad with a nice blend of youth and experience and with a good nucleus of Scottish players, capable of doing well in all competitions.

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I didn't realise this mistake Ed. It's just been a typing error with the outgoing figure. I know you read the posts as you always give a personal response if asked and back it up, and this is greatly appreciated. I go on various other rumour pages (Man Utd, Arsenal, Chelsea) and you are head and shoulders above other Eds. Keep it up.

{Ed010's Note -aw schucks, you're only saying that but thanks anyway lol

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We need to get into group stages 1st pal

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Over the last few weeks i was getting bored with the rumours/banter pages, until i read this.i totaly agree with all the signings and hope it will happen.well done ed keeping these sites interesting

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If this is the case my only issue would be Weir retiring, with that squad we are short in the centre back area, Cuellar will miss the start of the season and what if Bartley picks up a knock? McCulloch, Papac and Broadfoot? I don't think they are good enough as centre backs.

GovanFR

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That edu 1m-murder...that is quality patter mate

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23 Jun 2011 21:32:58
It would need to be a very big offer for our gk and most of our best players for us to think about selling anyone

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23 Jun 2011 21:28:57
love the new rangers away top , my got who could make it up [rangers in hoops lol lol lo l,

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Yous have got to remember that it was the mighty Gers who played in hoops first. It might be the dark side now but that's another 1st for the gers.

Haw

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Rangers played in Blue and White Hoops before Celtic had their green and white ones.

BF

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23 Jun 2011 21:28:14
Celtic going to beat us to Danns, Cardiff beat us to Conway and are now front runners to sign Goodwillie ahead of us, Whytes needing to pull the finger out and put a bid on the table for these players rather than saying we are linked with them and not doing anything.

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23 Jun 2011 20:54:42
Bring in Jimmy Bullard a bit on the old side but an absolute underrated legend of the game who turned down Celtic. He could do a great job, his freekicks his long range shots, his controlling of the game. Legend lol, but then at this rate i'm doubting we'll get David Goodwillie who should be bought for £2Million right away.

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Jimmy is a legend he would make Scott brown look like bambi

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One word: wages.

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23 Jun 2011 20:51:05
To the person who is saying we r considering selling mcgregor 1 word NO so don't speak rubbish

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We shd for 10 or 12 mill to good to turn down

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23 Jun 2011 20:46:50
Alright guys, lets look at this logicaly!!
Whyte has publicly said in the press that we've targeted 6 new players.We already know that Goodwillie, wallace, bartley, cuellar and danns have either been approached or inquired about. The question is , who is the last target?
Lets assume we get all the these targets, thats a striker, full-back, centre mid and two centre halfs! My guess would be that the last remaining signing would be a winger.My first choice winger would be weiss.
I think that would cost us.......
goodwillie - 2 mil
wallace - 1 mil
cuellar - 3 mil
danns - free
bartley - loan
weiss - loan
(I rounded the prices up to the highest fee being touted around)
Thats 6 mil, leaving another 6 mil (going by the assumption we've got 12 mil to play with) to use on wages and new deals.Who knows, there might even be enough to get bartley on a permenant deal!

In my opinion, this all seems reasonable and realistic and i personally would be happy!What do you guys think?

Namba

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23 Jun 2011 20:38:48
top priority for me would be to sign

Carlos Cuellar
Kyle Bartley
Danny Wilson
Vladimir Weiss
A right back
goodwillie/anyone who will compliment jela

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23 Jun 2011 20:18:21
Ali Russell the new director of operations sayin he and Whyte have no plans to sell the naming rights to ibrox. (HeraldScotland) Arsenal got 100Mill for sellin their rights. We wouldn't get anything close to that but it would still surely be worth it. Ally might be able to actually buy a player then.

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23 Jun 2011 20:05:59
sorry fellow bluenoses but i heard today from a close friend in cardiff who says that malky mackay is about to table a bid for david goodwillie, more than rangers can afford as they have given their new manager big bucks to play with. if this does happen and i am reliably informed then us teddybears must start to worry! if players are choosing to play for teams like cardiff over rangers then that concerns me! on a brighter note i think we will sign cuellar and bartley in next few weeks.

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Hope so he carries to much baggae just now, would not be to disappointed if he did not sign

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This is true mate ... goodwillie is going to cardiff ... i wouldnt post this if it wasnt true cause u want goodwillie think he has excellent potential

billyb

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23 Jun 2011 20:04:08
The word fae whyte no 1 is for sale

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Until other clubs offer big money...

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23 Jun 2011 19:48:59
A think a talk for alot of us gers fans when a say that every time we look at the news it seem to be gettin worst for us lol. Weir bougy steven whit and edu look to be leaving and sadly we maybe talkin 4mill tops 4 the lot of them our targets seem to be joinin other teams conway hemed maybe goodwillie wont pay up for wallace and danns havnt heard oct more bwt him a and with davis and shagger not signin contracts is it any wonder we scared. A hope ally has a plan and whyte are jst lettin this happen to put others of the cent of what the got planed. What do u think ed. They leave we would need atleast 10 new players but anyway we all blues brothers lets hope eh?
Ryan/casey

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Football players are only interested in money - that's the only reason they'll stay with Rangers or move to Rangers from another club. And Whyte represents a new post-Murray era where you guys are going to have to live within your means and start paying back the overdraft. However. That doesn't mean every other club like Hearts and Dundee United have to help you do it. Wallace and Goodwillie will both go south. The respective clubs will get the £1m and £2m they are looking for and the players will get the £10k+ a week they are looking for. I'd expect Rangers to then try to appease the fans with 'big names' - like Nugent or maybe Alan Smith or Sol Campbell. But bids so far by Rangers suggest they want to be publicly linked with players like Cuellar while knowing they've no chance of affording them at real market values.

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Who says Mcgregor an davis aint signing new deals pal ????

and do u not no ur own name ryan/casey ?????

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What over draft..is this the 18mil whyte owes himself?

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23 Jun 2011 19:47:10
is this a online manager game if so could u please give me the details thanx

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Its champ manager

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23 Jun 2011 19:41:34
sell whittaker after recent contract rejection yes agree/no disagree

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From what the news said, rangers were prepaired to make him 1 of the highest earners, behind boogy, jejavic, and davis,

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100% hell yeah he is sh#t

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He has been one of our top goal scorers in the past two years, and he is a defender what else do you expect?

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Whittaker couldnae tackle a fish supper and he runs like a lassie!

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23 Jun 2011 19:37:05
Am i alone in thinking, it's about time we stopped offering megabucks for players, in any haggle you start lower than you want to pay and the seller asks for more than they think they'll get. Somewhere in the middlewould be 500-700k for wallace and 2-2.3m for cueller and 1.5m for goodwillie. If wallace works out, remember that papac was a centre half so we've got a bit of cover, i posted previously that whittaker was too good to go for 400k. I'm not saying he's brilliant, just that 1.2-1.5m is more palatable to me. I think prudence is the way forward, buy low and sell high and make some money. Also, i think greegsy is brilliant but i'd take 9-10m any day of the week. Keep the faith bears, we've got the nucleus, just need the squad filling out along with the kids and 3-4 strong additions. Also, the transfer window doesn't open till july i think.
Bazbear

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23 Jun 2011 18:54:43
Ed do u know anything bout weiss comin bk now he rejected a move 2 udinese cheers

{Ed010's Note -Nothing I'm afraid. Only time will tell what his intentions are.

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23 Jun 2011 18:38:31
cardiff can discuss all they like but if Goodwillie doesn't want to go they cant have him


{Ed010's Note -you are spot on my friend. David Goodwillie's agent would not be doing his job properly if he didn't instruct him to listen to what is on offer from all interested parties.

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If the moneys there he will go mr whyte has stole the buscuit tin

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23 Jun 2011 19:29:01
Check out my youtube Rangers page - Rangersorme1 to find out who the seal is if you don't know lol!

Mascot:

Broxi bear or the famous seal?

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23 Jun 2011 19:04:39
I think its time Craig Whyte stops doing interviews and puts his money where his mouth is. He seems to talk the talk but cant walk the walk. Just pay the 2 Million for Goodwillie, the 3 million for cuellar and the 500,000 for Wallace.

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Correct and telling every1 who we r biffing for this guy has not got a clue an we will lose every1 we are in for

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23 Jun 2011 19:03:41
Did anyone see who posted the original tweet about Cardiff and Goodwillie
None other than Dundee Utd Chairman Thompsons mate Jim Spence.

You have previous for this Mr Thompson , planting stories to up the anti on deals.

BF

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Bbc cardiff

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23 Jun 2011 18:47:33
Why are Rangers dragging there heels AGAIN when it comes to signings. Hemad, Conway and I hope this isn't true, David Goodwillie in talks with Cardiff? I'm hearing that D.Nugent is in talks now. I hope not because this is a sign of panic buying like Beattie.

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I do think we are losing out on sum new faces so far, but if nugent came i deffo think it wuld b a safe bet and will score 15-20 goals a season :)

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Conway was a non starter , he never wanted to play for Rangers.
Hemad went for more dosh , a lot more than he was worth in wages.

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Nugent hasnt had a guid season for about 4year

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23 Jun 2011 18:38:08
what a shambles, we cannot even compete with cardiff city! Pre season around the corner, whitty and bougy poss off, davis and mcgregor yet to commit. Unless things change soon we are throwing away the last 3 seasons work! Was alasdair johnstone right?

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Correct

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Judge Ally and Craig Whyte come the 23rd July on their transfers. Don't start doubting them before a balls been kicked. Plus the transfer window open till 1st july and doesn't shut till the 31st august. They will be at least 2 players leaving the club and at least 7 players coming in. IN ALLY WE TRUST. WATP.
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23 Jun 2011 18:21:32
If David Goodwillie signs with Cardiff because this £5Million apparently isn't being spent then Rangers fans have every right to be pessimistic with Craig Whyte in charge because it's disgraceful some of the bids we're putting in for good players then missing out on them. Just embarassing to not be able to pay the £2Million asking price for Scotland's biggest talent. Pull the finger out.

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Listen if whyte hadnt of bought rangers we would have lost a lest three players with no replacements the banks wanted payed compare what we have to spend to epl and the top half of the championship hardly anything we were spoilt for years which got us were we are today chelsea charge 4 figures for a season ticket do we need to do the same? because you need money to run a football club or does every fan need to send money to swell the coffers because thats what it needs conway never offered a contract hamed went to spain for 16-20 thousand per week way to much for a unproven player whittaker been offered treble his wages and it still not good enough heres the other thing ally will have players in position for new season get your hand in your pocket or stop whinging big rab by the way

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23 Jun 2011 18:16:53
steve whittaker has rejected a new contract at rangers which would have made him the most paid player at rangers and supposivly accepted an offer from bursaspor in principle. im getting worried now.

Rhysrfc

why get worried he is rank rotten cant defend an hits the 1st man everytime with a cross sell him now

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23 Jun 2011 18:16:22
if we lose out on goodwillie i will be highly dissapointed in the current rangers setup, supposed 12m budget and we can't afford to splash £2m on the brightest talent in scotland.

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23 Jun 2011 18:05:10
Im just thinking ED (I know dangerous) but with Man UTD signing Ashley young surely they must have some quality midfielders/wingers they would be willing to us. Any ideas people????

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Obertan if we cant get weiss back

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23 Jun 2011 18:03:42
Any news on Danns? I heard whispers that him and his Old boy are at the Crowne Plaza in finnieston. Anyone to confirm either way berz?


Bobby

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23 Jun 2011 17:50:33
Blackburn want Edu. Whittaker turns down deal. Let Whittaker go. He is getting to big for his boots. He wants to be the highest paid player at ibrox. Ef off. Take the million. Mr whyte is starting right with his bids for new players. Start low and work your way up.
Sparky72

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Whittaker is useless sell him now and get rid of the donkey that is edu

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In essence Whyte is correct with what he's doing and whilst we need someone who is not going to be bullied financially, he's a bit too sure of himself and is going to fanny about until we lose out on nearly every target. I'd nearly rather have last years situation because this is turning out to be a farce. I know it's early days etc etc etc but I'm not happy one bit.

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23 Jun 2011 17:47:04
Cardiff after everyone we're after? Apparently after Goodwillie now. On BBC Sports/SPL page at the bottom under the videos! Bunch of a-class w*nkers after all our targets!

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Grow up and stop thinking that other clubs are stealing Rangers' targets. Try to learn a little bit about what has been said on here about agents etc.

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It says Cardiff have entered into talks with Dutd, so the player has not.Any player with ambition who wants to win trophies and play Euro football would surely choose Rangers over, , , , ahem " Cardiff " famous for rugby only. The boy will be at Ibrox, simples !!

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Conway

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23 Jun 2011 17:29:30
personally a think we need 6 new signings . 2 defenders 2 midfielders 2 strikers and this is the team a would go with if we get wallace cuellar goodwillie danns etc and also if we keep bougherra heres hoping

mcgregor
whittaker cuellar bougherra wallace
naismith davis mcculloch wylde/danns
jelavic lafferty / goodwillie

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23 Jun 2011 16:50:46
i dont know who all lives in glasgow but i'm an ibrox boy an i still believe the good old evening times so liste to GOVANFR hes probs talkin the most sense KWATP

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Haha, it tends to be one of the few reliable papers imo.

GovanFR

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23 Jun 2011 16:02:34
Ed, 3 questions were are the nugant drenthe and kovermans (spelling) of psv rumors coming from please answer these questions with a good answer lol =) Fr3d

{Ed010's Note -Football Manger 2011, that's the only way that all three will ever appear together in a Rangers team. They are what they are, just rumours with no substance to them at this time.

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Anyone else think Rangers should use FM2011 as a scouting method, the number of young players I've had over the years in that who have gone on to be great players. lol

GovanFR

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23 Jun 2011 16:23:57
To the person that'd asking where am I getting the idea that hearts r asking for a million well its on the rangers news page and in the Scottish sun

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23 Jun 2011 16:14:23
do you like the new rangers away strip?

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23 Jun 2011 16:12:25
23 Jun 2011 14:32:17
I like to know where u people get your news. Here is what I how villa want £3m for Carlos. No news on our Rb. Hearts want a million for wallace

Where's the link for Hearts wanting a million for Wallace? I find that hard to believe.

The Scottish sun p66
"it's believed the jambos will hold out for £1million"

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23 Jun 2011 16:11:17
I said it many times last season, said it when Bursaspor first made an offer, and now I'm saying it after he's rejected a new contract... Steven Whittaker is not good enough defensively, and why they would even make an offer for him to become highest paid at the club is beyond me. If teams play players against him who are willing to go in behind they will get loads of joy out of him 9 times out of 10. As proved with David Templeton near the end of the season. Vulnerable to the ball inside him, ball watches & lets it float over his head, marking wise shocking and is scared at times. Defensively & tactically naive, good going forward but all round not worth £20,000+ a week. Let him go, thinks hes better than he is.

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Rangers should get rid of whittiker and try to bring back hutton

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Spurs won't let him go after they paid so much for him. He gets a game with them now anyway.

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Only if we get players in that are just as verstile. Other than that, cash in!

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23 Jun 2011 16:10:59
Thats because Wallace is worth a million and anyone who thinks less doesnt know anything about football , Rangers are only offering 25% of what players are actually worth cos your new man in charge has no money and you are on a slippery slope

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Champs

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Bollocks! our new man in charge has built up a fortune being involved initially in financial markets then moving on into venture capitalism (buying ailing companies, turning them around and selling them on). He was Scotlands youngest self made millionaire at 26. You don't achieve all this by being a mug and throwing money around. Don't worry bears, you don't need to spend a fortune to win the spl and we've already done it 3 times in a row spending fu*k all. Craig Whyte will see us alright. i'm all for bringing in a wee bit of quality, winning things and watching Rangers grow steadily to dominate for years to come. WATP

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23 Jun 2011 16:07:13
REF : Wallace

I dont think hearts want a million either. I would say anything around the 500,000 mark and he would be a Rangers player. {Ed010's Note

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23 Jun 2011 16:00:28
Dundee United striker David Goodwillie has been charged in relation to an alleged early-hours brawl in Glasgow city centre.
The 22-year-old will appear at Glasgow Sheriff Court on June 30 after he and another Tannadice rising star were charged in connection with the November incident. (Dundee Evening Telegraph)

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23 Jun 2011 15:47:03
Ashley Young now off to Man U, Watch Mcleish use some of the cash to go for Mcgregor with Cuellar being used as some of the fee

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23 Jun 2011 15:45:21
Did anyone else sense the anxiety in Craig Whyte's voice when interviewed on SSN earlier. Im beginning to worry that he may have bitten off more than he can chew. Surely if Whittaker will not take the rumoured 20k per week then we must allow him to go and invest any transfer fee on someone who wants to be there. As for the bids for Wallace and Goodwillie, I would just like to see us to conduct a transfer where we dont slap in derisory bids to begin with.

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Don't think there's any need to worry dude. Think we're just used to David Murray being so comfortable with the press. Think that was just inexperience being interviewed and caution as he didn't want to say anything that could be taken out of context.

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23 Jun 2011 15:27:15
Whittaker refuses new deal, 20k per week. Trebling his current wage - get him sold as he is an average defender. Davis and Mcgregor to be offered 25k per wk, hope they aint as greedy as Whittaker. Cuellar, Wallace and Goodwillie will sign soon, Whyte is playing poker with the small parasite spl clubs

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What utter arrogance.

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23 Jun 2011 15:08:19
I have no doubt if we offer around 2ml for Cuellar Villa will accept, also if 600k offered for Wallace that would be accepted. Think 2 good pieces of business at these levels.

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23 Jun 2011 14:59:16
Ed, whats your opinion on the Martin Bain scenario? Thought it was a mistake to let him go as he was a great servant for the club, however, do you think he has a leg to stand on by taking action against the club regarding his treminatiion? I hope not.

{Ed010's Note -If Martin Bain has done nothing wrong, then he does have a "leg to stand on", as Craig Whyte, just can't remove him without going through the necessary channels. Bain has the same rights as any other employee and I must admit to having had a little sympathy however. That sympathy went out the window when it became public knowledge about his wages, especially at a time that our club was on it's knees.

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23 Jun 2011 14:36:14
Think everyone needs to calm down a bit over the transfer speculation. Sir Ally needs us to give him time to get his squad together. Not worried at all about Hemed or Conway. Both average players. Personally wouldnt fork out the 3m for Cuellar, no-ones as good the second time round. Wallace from Hearts is a bit worrying as the guys only played 7 games since January, seems injury prone...? Would be more concerned about Whittaker. Think it would be worth offering him a decent contract as he is a consistent, utility player who works his socks off for the badge. Only name thats atrracted me so far is Goodwillie. The guy is RAPID. Whyte and Sir Ally seem to be taking their time over the transfer market. Im pleased with this as I dont think making rash bids for average players such as Hemed, Wallace and Conway would have been a clever move. 2 million for Goodwillie, and 2-2.5 million for Cuellar. I would be happy with that. Opinions Ed?

{Ed010's Note -I'm with you on the Hemed and Conway deals. As much as I'd love to see Cuellar back at Ibrox, I wouldn't be wanting to pay any more than £2m. We signed him for Osasuna for around that figure and there are bound to be other players, of the same quality, available for the money.

I would love to see both Goodwillie and Wallace at Rangers, both bring their own qualities. Wallace's greatest attributes is his ability to continually get up and down the wing.

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23 Jun 2011 14:45:20
if barry robson were to join us he would run through brick walls for ally mccoist no doubt plus he's better then edu and mcculloch he would add grit and steel in the centre so hope we do get him

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I don't think he's the sort of player or the standard we should be looking for in order to move forward.. IMO, although Lee Wallace's main position is LB, I wouldn't be surprised to see him played at LM for his first season til Papac finishes up (if he signs) as he's v good going forward.

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23 Jun 2011 14:42:18
just a repeat of my earlier post which hasnt been posted-

apparently goodwillie was involved in another minor incident at the weekend......he is carrying a lot of baggage with him.....

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23 Jun 2011 14:37:04
Craig Whyte was just on sky sports news talking about transfers and stadium investment plans

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23 Jun 2011 14:35:46
We spent more money than this when we were skint, what's going on whitey???

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23 Jun 2011 14:33:32
am i missing something, whitty was murder last season were always getting done his right side, cant cross, does the odd good run some of his passing was terrorible, he cant go if he wants, he will be easily replaced, people forgetting we have young darren cole, relax everybody all will be good

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You're missing something!! and if you think Darren Cole is the answer to right back then I'm sorry but you have very little understanding of football. I despise being negative about our team, however we are now looking like a team of amateurs being run by amateurs being managed by an amateur! We are being played by every agent and rival club by going to the press on every tiny bit of detail, we have C Whyte making noises about us wanting Carlos and at this rate we are going to fail there also! This situation is looking bleak and needs to be turned around FAST!

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Sorry mate but Cole aint good enough and i would be suprised if the guy broke thro as a 1st team regular. To replace whitty would take a decent bit of money. He is a good fullback to have at a team that dominates possesion. However I dont think he is worth more than the contract he is rejecting and im assuming he has already been "tapped up". Of which i will be ragin with the boy as the least he could do is sign a contract to ensure gers get decent money for him as we have been more than good to him.

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23 Jun 2011 14:04:21
Whittaker has turned down a revised contract offer which would have made him the highest paid player at Ibrox (source Herald sport)

Let him go! Am I the only guy who has spent more time than I care to remember at Ibrox, with my head in my hands every time he give the ball away...?

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If not happy let him go for around 1ml, buy Wallace for around 500/600k, good business for me, would pocket approx 500k on these deals and guess around another 400k on years wages.

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23 Jun 2011 14:00:27
Whittaker knocks back new Rangers contract
Ibrox midfielder Steven Whittaker has rejected a new £1m a year contract that would have made him the second highest paid player at the club.
It's been reported that Rangers intend to let the Scotland international leave for free at the end of his contract next season after rejecting an £800,000 bid from Bursaspor. (Herald)

This is copy and pasted from the scotsman transfer rumours page

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The Evening Times says that there is two EPL clubs in for him and a championship team.It did not say who they were though.

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23 Jun 2011 13:53:45
jamie ness to be rangers player of the season this year as long as he is injury free.

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Has a great chance to shine , i have a lot of faith in him , hutton and wylde . sprayes the ball about so neatly . new barry , just keep him away from the drinks cabinet . tape up his fingers future captain both club and country.

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23 Jun 2011 13:52:31
sorry where are all of these valuations coming from for mcgregor as he was in the top 5 goalkeepers last season, and he is only valued at 12m your having a laugh, any other team and would be 20m anyday.
chiz

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Watch Mcleish offer something like 7m plus Cuellar.

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23 Jun 2011 13:49:19
so hemed rejects us, so does conway, we cant afford 2million for goodwillie, we offer 300k for wallace which is a joke, we offer 1.5million for cuellar which is shockin as we sold him 3 and half years ago for 8million, whittaker rejects a new contract which is our last offer to him so he'l be leaving next season ( where is whittakers loyalty? ), weve said mcgregor isnt for sale but if someone offers 5million i cant see us turning it down, and davis has 1 yr left!!!! Mr whyte i know your trying to be prude but this is gettin silly, season starts in 30 days and we dont have any new signings in!!!! get some money spent and stop being stingy!!!!! if we loose whittaker that will be a disgrace, just give him somewhere near what the top 3-4 people at rangers earn and hel be happy!!!!

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He was offered £1m a year which would make him the 2nd highest earner at Ibrox behind Davis and he still said no. That offer trebled his wages but thanks to the figures Bursaspor are banding about he now thinks he should be getting even more. He's a good player but if £20k a week isn't enough for him then I'm sorry but he can go. The fact we offered as much as £20k a week is heartening after rumours of Whyte only offering 6-7k a week. On this occasion I think we can blame the players greed/ambition as opposed to Whyte penny pinching. I use the term ambition loosely!

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23 Jun 2011 13:19:58
Whittaker Issue: I'm not sure who to believe here, as the BBC issued a report on a statement from Whitty's agent which was Rangers have made a significantly higher offer which recognizes him as 1 of Rangers top 4 players! Yet apparently we now have the Herald stating he rejects this offer???? Ed any info of your own from other sources?
Once again I keep stating this time and time again I have never seen our laundry being washed in public so often! It makes us look very unprofessional and amateurish.....
GDog

{Ed010's Note -GDog, I rely on the newspapers, websites and supporters on here for my information but from what I can see, Whittaker was offered £20k a week or £1m a year, which has been declined.

With regards to "our dirty laundry", unfortunately this is the way it goes, agent go public about deals, thus alerting other clubs to his player's availability. This is exactly the same thing that happened with Tomer Hemed.

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Ed - I am now reading reports that he has indeed rejected the offer! I am staggered, we are now looking like fools. New management, new owners and no-one left to take an experienced control. This lad came out at the end of the season and said I want to stay. If he leaves I am angry, I like this lad I know many don't, however for me he is a versatile player. We are having the p*ss ripped right out of us now! Im raging!

My friend, you'll probably find that Whittaker's head has been turned, knowing what is potentially on offer fro Bursaspor. Having said that, football agents earn their wages by getting a percentage of "their" player's contract agreement. I don't know the percentages but just taking these imaginary figures, if the agent gets 10% of £20k or 10% of £40k, it's a no brainer, which deal the agent will suggest to the player. I have no doubt that Whittaker, through his agent, is hoping that Rangers will offer a bit more. Personally, I wouldn't give him another penny, keep him for a further year, let his contract expire and keep him on £7k a week.

GDog {Ed010's Note

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23 Jun 2011 13:36:20
did the £300.000 bid for wallace and £1.5 million for cuellar really expected to get accepted looks like its a long road ahead

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These are just starting bids. Do you understand the logic. Start low and work your way up so you don't pay over the odds. Simples.

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23 Jun 2011 13:34:38
rangers set to miss out on carlos cuellar after villa slap a £6 million price tag on him

I have never read so much garbage in my life, Villa have stated that they will sell Cuellar for £3m , this is a Celtic supporter making lies up, obviously bored and doesn't have anything better to do with his time.

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"did the £300.000 bid for wallace and £1.5 million for cuellar really expected to get accepted looks like its a long road ahead"

Maybe they did, but it could just be media guesses as to how much they offered. As my work colleague sitting next to me rightly says, they are testing the water. How would you feel if Rangers say to Villa, 'We'll give you £3m for Cuellar' and Villa say 'Deal, but we'd have given you him for £2m!' IT'S CALLED NEGOTIATION!

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23 Jun 2011 13:33:49
rangers set to miss out on carlos cuellar after villa slap a £6 million price tag on him

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lol the education levels of u lot are laughable ... haha learn to read son the papers said 3m gers will expect a bid of 2-2.5 m to be accepted

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Carlos is on 35 k do you think he will take a massive pay cut

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23 Jun 2011 13:24:41
Cuellar £2.5
Goodwillie. £1.5
Wallace. £750,000
Bartley. LOAN
Danns. FREE
Healy. FREE
McCulloch Club Captain
Wylde & Ness 1st team regulars
Bougherra, Edu, Beattie to leave if suitable bids received

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23 Jun 2011 12:43:48
Hi Guys

just seen this on the Villa rumours site.. not sure of the source...


Alex McLeish has sanctioned the £3m sale of Carlos Cuellar to Newcastle and has agreed a fee with Dundee United for David Goddwillie after having already brokered a deal for the striker with BCFC he knows the fee and terms required, anyone seen Goodwillie play?

Cant be true.... is it... ed any ideas..

{Ed010's Note -Can't find anything about Cuellar being linked to Newcastle and nothing about Goodwillie being a target for Aston Villa. There is a chance that both could be true but more likely a "wind up", knowing that it would get back to the Rangers fans.

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23 Jun 2011 12:36:55
Aston villa looking for about 3million for cuellar i think anything under 5 was always going to be great business for rangers . Think we should jump on it now .

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You would pay 5million for cuellar whos injured and in his last year of his contract im glad your not running the club. we will get him for 2.5 million which under the circumstances is about right.
big rab by the way

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As much as I love Cuellar, I think £5m for a player who is entering the last year of his contract, who barely kicked a ball last year and is currently injured and will be injured for a proportion of the coming season is a bit steep. In saying that, I think it's going to take more than £1.5m to get him, hence why they call it an opening offer. Villa want £3m, I doubt they'll get £3m. I think a deal will be struck at £2.25-£2.5m. Him and Bougherra and Bartley as back up would be a good looking central defence.

In regards to Wallace, I think Papac will still be 1st choice, he doesn't deserve to drop down after that header off the line he took against Celtic considering his head is already in a bad way. Hero! Wallace will be cover (could be an option for left mid also as he gets forward well) but will be left back when Papac finsihes up.

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Cuellar carring an injury and in last year of contract I would'nt go a penny over 1.9m... IMO I think we will end up paying 1.75m for goodwillie and 700,000k for wallace, I would keep whitty on 7k let his contract run out and with the 13k extra he turned down offer it to free agent kovermans....*ksd*

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23 Jun 2011 12:36:51
WTF is going on at rangers???

Whittaker has just rejected a contract offer, we are making derisory offers left right and center for players in terms of transfer fees and wages.

My new found confidence in the new regime is quickly beginning to evaporate. C'mon Mr Whyte...pull the finger out and consolidate our positition as SPL's best!!

WATP

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Cant pay out what youve not got. if whitaker wants to go thats his business and maybe nothing to do with what were offering.maybe just wants a new challange or someones speculating. like most of the players who leave will he then then regret it big rab by the way

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Lets be perfectly honest here, we're not offering 10k per week to the likes of messi and rooney, just because we have missed out on a couple of possible signings doesn't mean we wont sign anyone. The boy Danns looks a good player when fit and we need to wait and find out about Goodwillies court case, but conway really isn't any better than wylde or fleck and as for hemed, i've never heard of him as i'm sure 99% fellow bears if there honest will agree. There is work going on behind closed doors as it should be and I have every faith in Mr Whyte and Superally to keep the success flowing to 4 in a row. Do you not think that we're just getting excited at the thought of new players coming in purely because of our recent financial state

Just my opinion

Andy

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By all accounts, Whittaker has been offered a deal in the region of £20k a week which I think is an excellent offer. I don't think Jelavic even gets paid that much. IMO, I really don't think he justifies going over that threshold. His agent is clearly going for a pay day, if he wants to go to Turkey (Beside his pal Miller who hates it out there apparently, for £30k + a week, good luck to him!)

The bids that we've put in for Goodwillie and Wallace are opening bids, which normally are rejected but are used as a starting point in negotiations. We'll no doubt negotiate with Dundee Utd and Hearts but will not pay over the odds which I think is quite right.

nr85

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23 Jun 2011 12:25:48
Steven Whittaker rejects a deal that wouldve made him the second highest earner at Ibrox. In my opinion hes not as important as Jelavic, Davis, Bougherra, Mcgregor and Naismith so if he wants to be the top earner he can jog on and whyte should cash in.

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I know its worrying at this rate celtics gonna walk it next season

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Who does this guy think he is? He gives the ball away more than he passes to a gers jersey and is constantly caught out of position. He's decent aye, but no way should he be one of the top earners. And he has the cheek to knock it back! I'd hunt him out the door.

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23 Jun 2011 12:10:32
I hear Aston Villa want more for Cuellar, what they need to remember is Cuellar is injured & may never get back to his best, we all remember Daniel Prodan, it's the same old story, English clubs wanting to sell players for more but expect to buy Scottish players on the cheap, then punt them for £millions, Charlie Adam springs to mind.

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Or villa can keep him and we get him next year for nothing we have to play hard ball he out until sept october buy him january make sure hes getting back to his best big rab by the way

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23 Jun 2011 12:09:25
marty bhoy here how are all the bears this afternoon/
some of you guys kill me, if you were buying a car/ house, would you offer the asking price straight up/
nope me too you HAGGLE, its called not showing your hand!, poker face etc . so your chairman wants to gain a reputation for being a hard man to deal with, in that he always gets his way in the end, so dont be too hard on wee tim but dim, he's only trying to save YOU the fans some dosh so you can use it to buy someone else,
sounds logical doesnt it

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Well said Marty, disappointed that my fellow bears are having to be told this by one of you lot but I agree. You lot have bought a good few players over the last few seasons and still not won the league so it's not all about spending money. looking forward to another season to see which one of us comes out on top. Would be nice if there were a couple of other challengers for a change though cos even when we're both sh*te it's still only one or the other. Enjoy the europa league and the spl silver medals dude lol

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23 Jun 2011 11:54:34
Whittaker has rejected a new deal! I think Craig whyte needs to rethink his wage structure to keep our "most important" players! We will lose our best and gain donkeys at this rate I think. All valuations are falling short and making the gers look stupid at the moment:(
WATP

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23 Jun 2011 11:53:07
rangers will need to double their original offer for carlos cuellar to £3M if they want to get the spaniard source: bbc sport page

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23 Jun 2011 10:49:31
Alex mcleish has put a £3M price tag on Carlos cuellar which may put penny pincher why're off of a move for the spannish centre half

Source daily mail

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23 Jun 2011 12:52:43
Not really rumours but faces id like to see walk up those famous would be
Goodwillie 1.2 mil + addons
Danns bosman
Lee wallace 750k +addons
Cuellar 2 mil
Bartley loan with option to buy
Obertan loan
Weiss loan

Im sad and quite worried that very public targets are choosing other clubs ahead of us. Either because were not putting reasonable enough wages up or the main men involved arent selling our club to them correctly. Tbh im embarrassed that weve missed out on 2 targets that would have been good squad players, but fingers crossed for future WATP

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I'm certainly not embarassed about losing out on the two targets so far, would you pay £1000 per month for a 5 yr old fiesta?

Andy

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As far as conway and hemed are concerned i really wouldnt start to panic about missing out on them as they are no better than what we have already. as for pisstaker kebab anyone.

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23 Jun 2011 12:17:42
I have before shown concern over the opportunities missed so far (Conway and Hemed) and can see the point of others concerns.

I am also a fan of Stevemn Whittaker.

However I have to say that if, as reported, the offer to Whittaker has stalled, taking into consideration that this offer would have allegedly made him the highest paid at the club then he can chase himself! He is not our best player and I would love him to stay but we cannot be held to ransom!

On this one Whyte has my support!

Bluegenius

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23 Jun 2011 11:11:31
allan mcgregor
whittaker cuellar papac wallace
naismith davis danns ness
jelavic goodwillie

i think this is the team that ally is wanting because he doesnt want to buy 2 cb wen he could play papac cb nd buy wallace thats why we made a big for him as i said i think this is the team he want but we dont know for sure. ed please place this on x

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23 Jun 2011 10:13:29
Reading the rumours about David Nugent, I'm sorry but is this guy really the type of player we want to buy. He has done nothing since he won his England cap, he's been average at best. Also think his wage demands would be too high and I'd like to see money spent on young British talent.

Players and clubs now think they can hold Rangers to ransom as we are out of the woods debt wise but Craig Whyte is right to watch the purse strings, we dont want to end up in the same situation as before.

As for Neil Danns, people are saying he'd be a great foil for Davis...are people forgeting we have McCulloch, Ness and Hutton, we missed McCulloch a lot when he was out injured, Ness looked amazing when he came into the side and Hutton did not look out of place when he came in against Man U.

As for the defensive situation, lets try and swap for either Bartley or Cuellar and buy the other one...we also have Darren Cole and Ross Perry who should be looking to gain more first team experience.

Thoughts on above???

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I agree, my misus is a big Pompey supporter (dinnae mean she's fat), and we've both spent a lot of time watching Pompey over the past ten years. Nugent is sh*te, couldnae finish a fish supper!

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23 Jun 2011 12:41:44
RANGERS SIGNINGS

WALLACE 500,000
GOODWILLIE 1.5MILL -2MILL
CUELLER 2MILL-3MILL
1-3 BOSMANS????
1 ALLY TOP SIGNING 4-5 MILL

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23 Jun 2011 12:24:34
Hi I, d like to point something out to mr whyte and his yes men..they keep trying to get players they cant afford and they keep failing...why is this ?simple really...you have to show the sellers that you have big bucks in the first place ! as far as I can see they, ve shown everybody they have very little bucks so even their own players whittaker contract refusal..want away boogie etc etc Mr whyte is not prepared to use his own money(if it ever existed) he, s not a venture capitalist He wont use any money that cant be generated by the club or its assets in whatever form..he made an agreement with Rangers at purchase but they can do nothing to enforce that agreement so it was not worth the paper it was written on..talk is cheap why dont you walk the walk mr Whyte? because you cant..dont talk anymore its time for action or walk away.

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As far as im concerned the clubs got to stand on it own two feet. remember the tax case hasnt gone away there is only so much whyte can do. we all need to be realistic we got in this position spending more than we earn. wait until end of transfer window before complaining big rab by the way

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23 Jun 2011 10:08:43
Do not fool yourself into believing Alexander is just as good as McGregor, if he was he would be playing 1st team football somewhere else or we would sell him for 12 million!!! However 12m + Bartley and Vela loan is a strong deal in fact extremely strong if true. In my opinion I would still not sell McGregor. my reason for this? Well simple there was 1 action that turned the title back into our hands and that my friends was NOT Celtic slipping up against ICT, no what turned the title back to us was Allan McGregor's penalty save against Celtic. Without that they would have had 3 points and could still afford to get beat by ICT! So anyone who thinks 12million is a good deal + players is right it sure is, however DO NOT FOOL YOURSELF into thinking that Alexander is just as good coz he aint even close.
Ed thoughts?

GDog
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{Ed010's Note -GDog, I think you are being a little harsh on Neil Alexander. Admittedly, Allan McGregor has been outstanding over the last few years but I it is my opinion that when asked to do so, Alexander has never let us down. Indeed he was exceptional in 2008 when McGregor wasn't available, saving penalties in both the Scottish and Uefa cups

If Arsene Wenger offered £12m + Bartley + Vela (loan for a year), I would grab the offer with both hands.

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23 Jun 2011 09:29:35
Met Mr Whyte & Mr McCoist in Aldi this morning and was talking to them about transfers after I got photos with them and their autographs.. McCoist said he was looking at a "BIG" name player and Mr Whyte is willing to pay 20k a week for a BIG name as he wants to sell more season tickets and rake in the money.
As for the Allan McCregor rumour - they said they have not recieved an offical bid but have been told it will be in the region of 10-12 million with Bartley included!!
Big name that I have heard from an inside source in Ibrox is Johnson from ManCity, Defoe - Owen - Kranjar - Pavleychenko - Berbatov

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Yea 1 of them names would definitely take 20 grand a week no problemo

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Only one of those names would move for 20g a week and thats owen the only one i dont want at ibrox

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20g a week, is that 20 grams? I reckon party boy Defoe would jump at the chance of 20grams a week lol

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23 Jun 2011 08:24:56
Bears, good morning, IT IS GREAT TO BE A BEAR !!! a Champion, a bluenose, a winner lol get my drift ? patience required as a lot have said and I will try hard to remain calm. I was just wondering tho' ed, what is youre opinion on the role Gordon Smith has, will it anchor Ally's position with the " new board " whether he has a succesful first season, or not ? A big job ahead given that we could see big goings out ( players ) and no effen clue who is coming in, my point is, Ally may need an ally if we struggle, do you think G. Smith will protect, or suffer the sfa syndrome? Has his balls dropped ?

{Ed010's Note - The only people who will actually know the truth about the Gordon Smith appointment, will be those it affects but they ain't going to go public with the reasons. I really do think that the Smith appointment is part of the "deal" to aloow Ally McCoist to continue as Rangers manager. Let's be fair, Ally McCoist is a hero to all Rangers fans but he wasn't a Craig Whyte appointment and we have all seen how quickly he (Whyte) got rid of past employees. Gordon Smith, through his time at the SFA, has wide ranging knowledge on all areas of football. I firmly believe that he is there to assist Ally but I wouldn't call him an "ally". Ally McCoist is going to be under so much pressure as a rookie manager, particularly if he doesn't get the expected results, that he will need someone to talk to and that will be Gordon Smith.

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23 Jun 2011 10:28:51
Amount of good players that are out of contract in EPL!! Rangers hsould be in about a few!

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23 Jun 2011 08:44:28
Saw a placard for the Herald this morning saying "Rangers defender turns down new deal", but there's nothing on the website. Does anyone know who they're talking about? I hope it's Bougherra and not Whittaker.

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It's Whittaker he knocked back a new contract that would have made him the highest paid player its on bbc sport weewebsite on the

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23 Jun 2011 07:46:51
is greg whyte fergus in disguise loads a money

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Your meant to be a gers fan and you dont even know the owners name its craig whyte lol

{Ed010's Note -This puts the record straight with regards to his name. It was obvisously a freudian slip. Thanks to the scores of people who took the time, to advise the original contributor of his/her mistake.

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23 Jun 2011 07:46:07
£300.000 bid for Lee Wallace Rejected, £1.2 million offer Rejected for Goodwillie, Stephen Whittikar Rejects new contract offer, Hemed and Conway Reject offers..Is Mr Whyte so Miserly or would he call it good buisness?.Get the grip off the Wallet!!!

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It's called negotiating.

I'm still smiling after 3 in a row.

Plenty of time left in this transfer window my friend.

Cheer up

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Not tight, just not stupid. It was only a few months ago we were financially in the sh*t. Have patience it'll be fine. as I've repeatedly said on here, 3 in a row spending next to f*ck all. Who have Celtic been signing anyway....Naebody! and they're the ones who came 2nd! 4 in a row here we go!

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So let me get this right the fans from the team that for the last 10 years have gone on about how well their team is run and then belittle gers for not overpaying for players and contracts?! hmmmm

and whittaker only rejected the first offer gers have put out for him..... it would seem common sense to get players as cheap as u can .... muppets meanwhile over at parkhead the players are rollin in eh ?! hows that "long term" contract that lennon was PROMISED live on tv. "he will be offered a very long contract" instead he got an extra 6 months.

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23 Jun 2011 02:14:39
Why does it matter who supports who? Neil mccann was a big celtic fan brought up in port glasgow and was 1 of the best wingers in britian at the time

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Its about time we looked at celtic as just another team. i agree mccann did a great job for us as did amourso , laudrup , gazza none of them would have been gers fans . look at rangers fans - jock stein , kenny dalgliesh and danny mcgrain iam sure i herd tommy boyd also . all done great jobs for celtic vs rangers . john robertson massive hibs fan , how good was he for hearts vs hibs . i could care if a footballer came from mars , i does a job for us , that all we want.

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As I said in another post, the list is endless. Current Tic captain was brought up supporting gers! thank f*ck he went for money and not his heart..for he's a heidless chicken and a fa*ny lol

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23 Jun 2011 01:27:02
Getting slagged off the mighty runners up for not being able to offer decent packages for players LMAO!
Conway was NOT offered a contract
Hemed was on £1k per week and was offered 6-8 times that at Rangers and an opportunity to challenge for trophies and play in The champions League and possibly the Europa League V's £15k and the chance to play in La Liga albeit in a relegation dogfight.
If he chose Real Mallorca due to cash then I feel we have had a lucky escape with him - you only have to look at his former club teamate Keyals attitude after 1 good but not great season in SPL.
If his decision was based upon wanting to play in a better league then obviously the package we offered had no bearing.
My point is Carlos Cuellar will be offered £15k minimum if not £20-25k. Because hes worth it, I have been pleased with Whytes value of players thus far, Danns may be decent but no better than £10k tops what has he actually achieved at Palace? I watch plenty of football in the championship and he is nothing special so £6k with a £2k appearance and £1k win bonus is fair and again if he chooses Sellik for an extra few grand then again they are more than welcome to him what do think fellow Bears?
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I think Danns will have been on more than 2k a week at Palace. Remember that League 1 and 2 clubs can offer most SPL players (those outwith the Old Firm) more money so it goes without saying that Championship clubs will pay even more - many of them can compete with the Old Firm on wages.

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Palace Where close going bust a season or so ago so 2 grand maybe a correct figure

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Totally agree! decent wage at a massive club who offer medals and champions league. if you don't want that more than a few grand extra you are clearly a c*ck!

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23 Jun 2011 01:01:14
Said before I would love to see robert snodgrass and goodwillie both come to ibrox, prob cost a bit but would defo test leeds with a 5mill offer! He's a gers fan so a think he would love a move to us! Rab

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No way is he worth £5mil< are you kidding ? let's not even start the bidding @ £3mil, plus his wages would scupper any aproach. He is a bluenose, but is not even an option, sorry disagree mate.

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23 Jun 2011 00:57:05
22 Jun 2011 20:20:09
The Wallace thing is true on BBC News (Lee Wallace) only 23, turning 24 on August, let's hope he signs and puts his injury troubles behind him because he's a great left back and a free-kick specialist. {Ed021's Note - Confirmed on STV news too.

yes hes a gd player and would be a gd signing but hes not a free kick specialist seeing hes never scored a free kick. u must be thinking of ross wallace of burnley tht used to play for preston and celtic and is a left back he is known for a good free kick
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23 Jun 2011 00:44:21
My number one target would be Bartley, not only would do a grand job at centre back but do all you bears remember his first game in the middle, not only that but the manner he stood up to the other half and the fact he really did appear to love being part of US.

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Agree other players but no 1 target must be him

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23 Jun 2011 00:36:00
would be pleased to get Wallace, but lets be honest Romanov has no love for either of the old firm and will play real hard ball, however the fact they just signed St.Johnstone left back might be hopeful, and i feel Wallace could become cracking midfielder.

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23 Jun 2011 00:30:00
lee wallace, david goodwillie, carlos cuellar and neil danns. are the 4 i hope will sign. and then bartley/wilson on loan.

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23 Jun 2011 00:09:21
Ed021, are you the main editor for this site now? {Ed021's Note - No my friend.

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22 Jun 2011 23:56:52
rangers linked with chris eagles again lets hope we get him

{Ed021's Note - going to Everton I read somewhere recently.

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Hope you are wrong ed. {Ed021's Note - turned us down last year remember. Don't doubt his ability and fair play for disagreeing with me.

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