Rangers Banter Archive March 23 2013

 

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23 Mar 2013 22:02:44
Rangers fans. with all these players getting linked rangersif they come will it be for the love of the club or playing in a lower division and a lot more money than what there getting paid. if its for the money how can u criticize sandaza

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24 Mar 2013 00:34:15
We should all call for Paul Murray a true blue to sort out our club.
CG is taking us nowhere

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Paul Murray isn't a fit and proper person to hold any position in association football for 5 years. He's part of the failure board that led the club to liquidation. And you want that back? All he craves is the appointment/ fame kudos and salary. {The Ed039's Note - Paul Murray is not banned from association football for 5 years that I can assure you of, but he personally does not have the finances)

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23 Mar 2013 21:52:25
after a few hours to calm down

i won't mention that man who is our manager
i won't mention charles Green
i won't mention the old guard intrenched at Ibrox

is the present situation good for Rangers
the recovery is stalling and if not adressed will go backwards and with Rangers been here before, will they make the mistakes of the past and have that man continue for to long. listen we sacked Greig and sat him in a corner of the boardroom for a few decades,
im sure that man can do the same I won't think less of him. Les

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OP, you obviously do think less of him if you can't bring yourself to mention his name.
Al

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Al a nice corner seat next to a window should be cleared for that man, him and Walter can talk of there times of daring do with the mighty Glasgow Rangers. he can eloquently speak to his audience and tell them how he single handedly slayed the tims, the fans can add to his legend status. BUT get him tae F@@k
fae that football team

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Les Celtic fan here FFs grow up it's a game of football, not life or death, ok the guy is not a manager and should walk away ( glad he is'nt lol)but to say your not going to mention his name is so childish
Tam {The Ed039's Note - First time you and I are probably in agreement Tam)

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Tam, I think 39 is getting soft in his old age. he agreed with me last week. and yes I agree with what you wrote. shammy

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@3 Aye ED, GOD work's in mysterious way's right enough LOL
Tam

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23 Mar 2013 21:35:25
I keep checking all sites relating to Rangers constantly, keep waiting to see Ally has chucked it, just cannot brlieve it ain't happening.

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He is a week away from winning the title, why would he go now?

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23 Mar 2013 21:31:17
Ally ain't daft, he knows exactly that he's not the man to take the club forward. A new management team and scouting system must be implemented for next season. The only chance for collective success and happy bears.

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23 Mar 2013 21:17:23
Hope Little, and Templeton are available for
the Match V Montrose as today we lacked any
quality especially in the forward positions.

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We lack any quality every week m8

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Templeton is back for Montrose, he was fit for today but they thought to leave it a extra week. Why a don't know

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Not only lacking in quality, comment from DJ on tv today, Stirling are better organised, says it all.

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23 Mar 2013 21:10:47
Just been reminded by a Rangers buddy of mines that 18 years ago today we lost a true Scottish and Rangers football legend, Davie Cooper now there was a man who played for the jersey and loved your club. God Bless you Davie Cooper.

Celtic Fan

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That puts today into context. Only 39 too, such a sad day.

Rest in peace Davie

Baybear

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To who ever disagreed to that post, you are as low as they come, total disgrace. Well done to the poster and thank you for remembering a person who was one of the best.

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@2) ignore the eejits, bottom feeders. Scotland could do with more like DC. Hail hail joe

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Davie cooper
true legend " I played for the club I loved ",
most gifted player I ever seen
r. i. p davie

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I posted it as I had the pleasure to watch him play against us. He was a true Scottish footballing legend and those who play for your club should aspire to be more like him.

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Davie Cooper was IMO, the best winger Scotland ever produced. I was a young Bankies fan and saw Davie at the end of his career playing for the Bankies again. I'll never forget that he was showing his age with regards to his running abilities, but he could put a ball on a sixpence from anywhere on the park! Such a sad loss, but Davie & Jim Baxter are up there playing Old Firm two a side with Tommy Burns & Jinky! RIP

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@2 maybe it is the same persons who did the same on the Celtic pages when they were posting tributes about the great jinky johnstone!
Totally unacceptable behavior!

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23 Mar 2013 18:29:53
mccoist complains every week saying he is missing players due to suspension or injury he got these players himself so should stop his moaning and get on way it every other manager does there job regardless murray park ain't producing the quality players it should because of poor coaching and coaches ain't good anuf we need a clear out from top to bottom should invest the money we have in coaches and scout and a new manager because mccoist ain't up to the job 1 up front all the time how on earth do u expect hemmings to do good upfront when he on his tod give him a partner he will score bout time mccoist left he is rubbish

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The young players at the club are average to say the least. Most of them can't master the basic football skills such as controlling the ball or passing. Crawford and Naismith are awful, Hemmings is about 2 stone overweight and moves around like a has been prize fighter, Hegarty is average and today both Aird and McKay looked as though it was too cold for them.

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I don't doubt Ally loves Rangers dearly but I have to say I think he loves big money even more or he would have resigned by now for the sake of the club.

I suppose it's one last money earner in football for him, let's face it no team other than Rangers would pay a penny to employ him let alone put him on the money he is currently on at Ibrox.

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23 Mar 2013 19:45:45
Mccoist is rubbish--get a grip did you not see how many were out today

we have a very young team with no preseason assembled at the last minute so what do you expect not to mention one of their players could have easily been red carded for foul on Mackay I think it was and then McCulloch was blatantly denied a pen in closing moments from a dodgy ref

if you don't like what you see don't come to ibrox-- they'll still be 45. 000 real fans who will

so sick of the glory hunters moaning

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Wheres all these wonder kids the the ed wouldn't sell for millions?. TTTS

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@3. No pre season! FFS it's march mate!

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@3 surely can't keep going on about "No pre season" in March.

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To number 3 mccoist ain't good anuf or his staff simple if u want to keep ure head buried in the sand good luck to u its the true rangers fans that realise he ain't up to the job 45 thousand will soon start going down if they ain't improvments soon

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@3: it's almost April and you're still using the no pre-season and young team excuses? Unbelievable. How many of the team today had experience at playing at a much higher level that D3? They are all professionals playing against semi-pros - a team that trains every day and has much more experience should be wiping the floor with semi-pros.

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@3 your everything that is wrong with the club just now. a total person who criticises people who have an opinion. today we had a gk on over £10,000 a week, center halfs on a combined £17-20,000 a week etc playing against a team who earns on average £10-20 a week. can u not get that through your thick head. its a disgrace that ally has signed and approved this dross. what aspect of the teams play are u happy with?
Ally's signing policy?
Also u say 45,000 loyal fans will still turn up every week. this proves that u don't go to ibrox as if like me u did u would have noticed the massive spaces in the crowd

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@3 Mc Culloch would not have got a penalty, the ball was out of play at the time, where were the 45,000 today?.
Tam

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Changes require to start happening now in a bid to retain the season ticket holders, I know I don't need to tell everyone else how painful the games are to watch just now. For the sake of allys future, he needs to break his loyalty @ friendship ties and clearout his backroom staff. If he is struggling tactically, surround himself with others who can help. With regards to the scouting system, Neil was not a great player and he is certainly not a good scout. Currently there are a lot of managers out of work, how about using one or two of them to find some young players, Jimmy calderwood springs to mind with his dutch connections.

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23 Mar 2013 18:09:07
GO NOW Ally!
I was on a couple weeks back saying that your time was up and that u would end up driving thousands away from the game and feelings towards a greay player would turn very sour.
This has now happend, big spaces, crowd booing and an embarresment of a performance against a team of part timers and one boy who done a paper round this morning.
The scary thing is some persons that come on here were calling for Hemmings to be given a shot as he looks good. Today should be his last appearance for the club.
Season ticket renewals coming up, act now Charles

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Totally agree especially about Hemmings, he didn't look like he had ever played the game before. If that's the future then we are in big trouble. Faure again was awful totally lost in the middle of the park along with Crawford. Lowest crowd of the season and I can see many people not renewing season tickets. The fans have been amazing and they have been cheated by the manager and the players. Green shouldn't think we are fools and think we will blindly follow this rubbish.

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U having a laugh mate should be hemmings last appearance what do u expect when only 1 up front from our poor manager again young lad short of game time plus first start for us so would been nervous and snatching it his chances give the lad a chance with a strike partner if u want blame sum one then look at mccoist and his staff not hemmings managment is poor a see better at ma local park

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Agree with that except game time. They sent him out to get game time and he was playing 2 divisions above this and done well. If he bottled it as you are suggesting then maybe he's up to playing for Rangers.

Thought he was disappointing to be honest even taking into consideration he was up top on his own. If the rest of the team didn't look so bad and shaky at the back Ally would have put McCulloch up beside him but he was obviously worried about them converting one of they're chances.

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23 Mar 2013 17:54:06
Coventry City Football Club Limited, which holds the lease for the Ricoh, went into administration on Thursday.
The operating subsidiary, Coventry City Football Club (Holdings) Limited, who employ all the club's staff, hope to find alternative retail premises as well as a permanent base for employees.

So coventry have 1 company to lease the stadium and a separate company to employ its staff. Interesting.

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What's interesting about that?

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Absolutely nothing is interesting about it apart form the OP's apparent problem grasping what that information means when lined up against Rangers situation.

OP the answer is nothing.

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23 Mar 2013 17:32:08
McCoist was hampered by selection issues - he had eight players unavailable - but his young side lacked a spark with most moves failing to progress beyond the middle third.

McCoist made three changes after his options were restricted by Ian Black's red card last week, Andy Little's Northern Ireland call-up and the club's decision to suspend Francisco Sandaza after he allegedly declared himself open to a move during a hoax phonecall which was broadcast online.

Barrie McKay and striker Kane Hemmings came in, while Kyle Hutton returned from suspension as Rangers lined up with a 4-2-3-1 formation.

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Op Have you not thought of any other excuses?You sound like Smith today on tv. ----they are full timers, paid pleanty vers part timers on a pittance. Someone also said (think it was Johnstone)the opponents were even fitter. Now is that not worrying?What are they doing at Murray Park?Thinking of ways to spend their money?Fed up

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That was never a 4-2-3-1!

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OP its people like you that could stop rangers going forward, if your happy with ally your living on another. planet.

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Have felt all season that we are not fit and don't give me any crap about not having a pre-season, we are full time. We have been totally unconvincing all season and are getting worse. Our passing and corners are a joke. Every other team in the league crosses better balls in to the box than us and they also defend the ones we cross in better, absolutely shameful. One up front at home to Stirling Albion, and the one guy is Hemmings who will never make the grade at Ibrox as the coaching is dreadful. Four times we've played them now and only managed an unconvincing 2-0 win at ibrox. The standard of our football is woeful and there have been no encouraging signs to say that things will be better. I'm in utter disbelief at the state we are in.

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But your manager and Chuckles believe you should be fast tracked into the second tier if re-structuring goes ahead? Yeah, let it happen. Give us all a laugh! :D

LLSTMF

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23 Mar 2013 16:50:10
Just wanted to call for calm! Bad today no one can disagree, but given the events of last feb through to summer, I don't think we should be so quick to dismiss Ally. He showed his commitment to us and we owe him for that.
First 10 games of next season with new players in and if we are not miles ahead then yes he should think about doing the honourable thing but surely not just now?

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The problem is that at the start of next season we will have the same dross. We have, I believe, from 1. 09 to 4. 09 to sign free agents, who presumably will not be able to train with us, with no matches under their belts.

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He hasn't got it as a manager and 10 games into next season won't make any difference. His team is awful and stumbles from one embarrassment to the next. For the longterm future he needs to go now. How much worse does it need to get before u wake up and see how bad it's got too?

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New players in, do you think anyone half decent would come and play under Ally now, and to play alongside our current dross, and do not say they will for money because the way crowds are shrinking there will be not be over the top money available.

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There has been enough time to get use to everything so why do people keep saying. Given the events of last season, get over it! It's not like football has changed the whole game it's still the same game for over many a years. Are people going to say given what happened 2 years ago next season or 3 years ago the following, excuses. Still have to get the ball in the back of the net, could ally manage a 10 year old kids match and win? Don't know

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Op every man and his dog knows that playing one manup front every game is the most defensive way to play football to do this at home is terrible and punting of long ball on a pitch like ibrox let's us know the team are dross the coatching is non existing

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OP So did Alexander show commiment to you guy's and look how you treat him, bet Ally's getting paid more than Alexander too, at least Alexander's doing the job he is paid for
Tam

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23 Mar 2013 16:34:39
It's getting monotonous----every week now, same rubbish but today it was even worse. Even the faithful at Ibrox booing the manager. What really disappointed me even more was the failure of Ally to face the cameras after the game. We were owed that much I think, to hear the excuse for today. Opposition of part timers---one still a schoolboy!--and they played like they knew what they were doing. The crowd had every right to boo---lets face it, we were all booing at the t. v. Same story every week now. No end in sight.

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Apparently McCoist locked himself and his players in the dressing room at full time. fortunately one of the Stirling players is a locksmith to trade and managed to get them out lol.

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Think the fans have booed the team at some point in all home games this year. Fans are starting to drift away from the games and Charles Green should take note when deciding on ticket prices for next season and on the manager. Never mind increasing prices next season they actually should be reduced to watch this garbage

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Locksmith F***in classic.

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If you were booing at the telly m8, ure neighbours must love you, only jokin, I know wot u mean

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OP were you not disappointed by mcculloch's reluctance to shake hands with the opposition player? An absolute disgrace and such a fine example for the young players!
Funnily enough if it was the players from over the city your ilk would be jumping all over it!

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23 Mar 2013 16:19:55
Shot in the dark but what about Andrew Barrowman to replace Kyle & Sandaza don't think hel be at Dunfermline too long would be a very cheap replacement on lower wages than both of them he's a Rangers supporter pretty sure he would come not a prolific striker but with the right service will score in these leagues just scored 2 today against Dumbarton.

Larky Bear

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Larky Bear, Can you not get a job at Ibrox?You talk a lot of sense (most of the time)We need fresh spirit. Can't go on like this was today.

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With the right service, Sandaza would score in this division.

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23 Mar 2013 15:20:51
Mccoist says team not good enough no ally its you that's not good enough. mr myle

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If I was Ally I'd be playing a 3 3 4 against Stirling Albion, I fell sorry for you guys I really do I am a Celtic supporter and I Don't understand why Ally plays 4-5-1, they weren't playing on a wee part timers pitch, they were at home, played 4-5-1 and struggled. Hope you get Ally to F**k so you's can hurry up and challenge us again. Your players are rubbish okay some are good but from Ranger's 2-3 year's ago, none of them would have got in the Reserves Wallace only one would get a game But not only is Ally ruining your club he's ruining these players careers also, let's face it I know most of them won't be Ranger's players when you're back and who they hell would want Sfl duds, think your fans should speak up and get ally out, and green. But then again keep ally in Struggle I enjoy seeing hurting x bears at work :D

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Please Ally GTF. Had enough of this now, today was the last straw. I won't be back until we have an attack minded manager who doesn't think tactics are wee white sweeties.

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23 Mar 2013 15:31:56
seen us get beaten at pittodrie 5-1
seen us get beaten at home by hamilton in the cup
seen us get beaten at home in Europe by a team I had not heard of
seen us get beaten last home game by Annan
seen us get beaten by dundee as we booed MCcoist

but I've not seen anything quite like today. that was something else. and I will never call that man by name as our manager. forever that man. Les

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It was a pathetic performance and Stirling deserved 3 points not 1.

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23 Mar 2013 15:11:06
I am thinking about all the managerial comments, bears how about PLG coming back to take over? Not a wind-up I am a blue nose! I felt that he was unfirly judged at the brox, he tried to bring in a proffessional approach, met hostility from a captain and other players with oversized egos, and was not backed-up by his boss and then hung-out to dry giving victory to a captain and other lazy overpaid players. If he came in now, worked and developed our youth, supported by a captain and chairman, reduced pressure for results until he found his feet, where could he take us given 2/3 years. Could he have us playing a set style with players that are brought up with proffessionalism, and signing players that suit the style and not changing the whole team style to accommodate individuals. Personally as a bear of many years I would welcome PLG or similar to Murray park - I think in a few years we would reap the benifits.

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The mistake was made very early. Did Ally show enough in cup ties to suggest he would make a manager? How many times did Walter Smith have to bale him out? So why was he promised the managers job because he had served his time? That's nonsense. For whatever reason Charles Green gave him a huge wage budget that has been pretty much squandered. Starting in the third division should have led to a total restructuring of the club. If it took 4-5 years to reach the SPL, then so be it. Youth, bought and home grown, should have been the way forward. These wages will come back to haunt Mr Green. Every team Rangers have played has had players who could have done the job in the lower divisions. I accuse Ally of pandering to his own ego here, he thought he could win a trophy when building was what was needed.

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It'll never happen mate but I was saying the same thing to my mate the other day. There are a few things about our club that hold us back from being a true, modern, progressive club and I think PLG just tried to change too much too quickly. If Chuck wants to go down in history as a great rangers chairman he has to be the man who recognizes our history, accepts the not so palatable parts and makes a stance that some of us won't like. Not just words but real action. If this doesn't happen we'll never move forward as a club. For all his words and claims Murray was a bottle merchant at the end of the day. Tough decisions ahead for the apparent no nonsense Yorkshireman.

Baybear

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While I agree with a lot of what you say m8, he woulnt even consider rangers now, I wouldn't imagine,, bf did a lot of god at ibrox, but his arrogance was breathtaking I believe, and he never hit a decent fre kick in yrs, though he tok them all,, no davoies is the man we need, only my opinion obviosly, tb

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OP here - No1 reply - what has this to do with my post? No 2 post thanks and totally agree, to move forward charlie needs to grow a pair, he has shown signs that he might, but hey let's think radical and now is the time to be radical whilst we have a bit of time before back to the 'must win' everyweek of the sphell

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1) Very good point.
BR

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@3: wouldn't be cheap to get him from Forest.

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1) not a good point at all. Today we had the home grown in abundance, not one of them is good enough.

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Get souness back he is a guy who would not let this lot play the way they are playing

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23 Mar 2013 15:09:04
Had to double check the team sheet right at the end of the game there as I thought big lafferty was back!
LM's disgusting attempt at getting a penalty at the death was purely cringeworthy! Prob the wrong ref was officiating there Lee, so the obligatory penalty went astray! Is that what all the booing at the end was about?
And you guys have the audacity to criticise other team's players for diving!

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Don't think big Lee's that kind of player to be honest. Just the poor decision of a desperate man I think.

A sad day when this is the only option left to take 3 points off Stirling Albion though :0 (

Baybear

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Agreed. McCulloch has pulled some dodgy moves this year, but running directly into the defender, then falling and feigning injury was despicable.

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He tried the same thing in the dying minutes of the defeat to stirling a while back. Got booked for it. Desperado!

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@2 Smelt of pure desperation!Enough is enough.

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Why no sending off for an outrageous bit of play acting

What a cynical deliberate gamesmanship from a legend

How far have we fallen

Is this what we are needing to do for the sake of a win

Embarrasing!

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@5) You've hit the nail on the head. We shouldn't be focussing on the fact it was a desperate ploy to win a penalty and cheat stirling. We should be absolutely disgusted that today at Ibrox against Stirling Albion who have already beaten us this season, and on the back of a defeat at ibrox we are having to sink to these depths to try and win it by a single goal in the dying seconds. Pathetic and embarrassing. How can anyone who cares about Rangers still try and defend the management? Are you watching what's happening on the park. We haven't played all season! 1 performance against Motherwell in the cup. It has been diabolical. If McCoist doesn't step down at the end of the season he will no longer be the same Rangers man I remember because he will no longer be putting Rangers first, but himself. My gut tells me he is going to stick it out and hope to start next season in style and all will be forgotten but there is more chance of Neil Lennon winning man of the year at the GQ awards in september than McCoist teaching a team to play with style. He hasn't got it. And everyone can tell the reason he won't play attacking formations is because he is frightened if he does we will lose goals at the other end because the players he has signed for defence look like impostors.

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@5 Mc Culloch legend? FFS get aq grip.
Tam

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23 Mar 2013 14:38:35
Ally just go that's all av got to say :- (

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He needs to go now. No hanging on. What will it take? How much more torture for fans? How much revenue does he lose?
Why did he say it was a very bad time to lose Sandaza? Only the league left? For his own job's sake?
Those same players would win 4-0 today under another manager.

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I have to agree although it pains me to say so. Ally realise you don't have it to manage rangers but we don't question your love of the club or how you kept us together in the bad times but you need to take a step up onto the board you can be the person to persuade the better players this is where they can us to our rightfully place back at the top

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Ally needs to get rid of his two pals and bring in an experienced coach to work with the players. McDowall puzzles me. Very highly rated at Celtic yet seems clueless here. Looking at him and Durrant today they seem to have chucked it.

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@3, its jobs for the boys, which doesn't always work (now obviously) what I would say is Mcdowall is an excellent coach, but maybe at youth level? I would let him run Murray park and bring in his own staff! Murray park for yrs has nothing much to show for the investment in the youngsters. He done it at Celtic out a tin shed at barrowfield, and moved onto Lennoxtown for a short spell, keep him in a job and let do what he does best!

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@ 1) I totally agree. with a good manager giving the team structure and discipline we can move forward. there is no organisation in the team from back to front. absolutely no tactics whatsoever.

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23 Mar 2013 14:34:07
Ally should do the honourable thing and replaced with either Jimmy Calderwood or Terry Butcher.

Either of these men will get the job done!

Miko x

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Much as I love Ally the man, Ally the manager does my head in and his negative tactics and poor management skills are going to cost Rangers dearly. I really wanted to support him but fear the worst, we are light years away from competing against top clubs.

Left Ibrox earlier than I've ever left before today. And tbh I don't regret it.

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Phaha Calderwood indeed! nice try Miko

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23 Mar 2013 14:14:21
Really wish I could think of something to say that was not negative, but I cannot, it gets worse every week. Ally really going down in my estimation by not wrapping it, cannot believe he does not realise by now that he is not a manager.

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? rangers are romping to the title?

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23 Mar 2013 14:31:36
Ally will never be a manager. Everybody knows it, Charles Green, Walter, every fan at Ibrox today.

Utter dross and told my pal I won't be going to Linfield friendly as am not remotely enjoying my football at the moment, am even considering no season ticket next year. will pick & choose games maybe instead

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1)- Romping to the title?. romping?!? seriously?!?!

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@ 1, If Queen of the south win there 2 games in hand, it's a 15 point gap, same as Celtic in the SPL, wouldn't call that Romping considering it's division 3, Gretna Romped it, you fans need to speak up to get ally out It's the only way you can get back to the top mate that's my honest Opinion.

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Pick and choose is the way to go.
Money is going to get tighter over next 3-5 years with that budget.

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If 21 points is close I am sorry. Truth is we are so far ahead and have an extremely poor team, or at least tactically poor. They are that far ahead while playing pish, I would still say that a 21 point lead is romping or considerably being far far ahead lol.

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@4 Queen of the South really. You would like us as fans
to take up your honest opinion when you don't even know that it's Queens Park that play in div3. Aye right writing to Mr Green as soon as I send this text ( Not)

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23 Mar 2013 14:09:45
Smith and Johnstone keep going on about young team blah blah. Stirling brought on a player who's just turned 17!. DH

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Did they go onto mention the lack of a pre-season too? Wouldn't be a surprise.

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23 Mar 2013 14:39:17
Beyond dire, Mr Green has come out with some cracking lines but the 25 year contract for Ally must be his best ever.

Not even fussed who takes over nobody could do any worse

if Ally stays on Rangers stagnate won't be able to compete against the likes of Motherwell or Dundee Utd let alone Celtic for a decade never mind Europe!

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They are hoping to keep him until league won then everybody forgets and he remains close season until next year. Everywhere managers are being replaced but he remains, why oh why is that?
Rangers drawing 0-0 at Ibrox with Stirling with the second highest paid team in Scotland and highest paid coaching staff.

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@OP At least Smith and Johnstone said something for the team (I know they are paid to chat)Where was Ally?Hidding in the dressing room. Come out and face the fans. Enough had left early today ---what was the crowd anyway?I know it was cold but did think more would be there

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23 Mar 2013 14:08:55
Im actually lost for words. Week in week out McCoist plays guys out of position and who are just not good enough. He comes out after a bad performance and says its not good enough we must learn etc etc but week after week its getting worse. Our manager is clueless, the team is now lacking confidence and his 4, 5, 1 tactic against Div 3 players is a disgrace. Unfortunately I don't think anything will change as Mr GREEN seems unwilling to sack him and McCoist won't do the decent thing and resign. Attendances will continue to fall unless surgery is carried out on the inept management team and I don't want to hear any excuses about 8 players being out.

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Celtic fan here in peace, mate Charles needs a Preacher I know Ally has bought shares, is a Rangers man but he's obviously in it for the cash it's an easy job for easy money mate, without Ally Charles would have been found out by now. If Ally loves the club as much as he implies he would cut his wages by at least 75%, if he loves your team he would step down with his head held high, he obviously knows the fans don't want him and he's a terrible coach, and if he had any Brains, he would see what Greens Intentions are and speak up. If I was Celtic Manager and we were in your situation, and were playing like who you're playing, I would step down because it would be the best thing for the club I love, any sensible man would do this but I think Ally has it in his head that he is a good coach. Just my Opinion mate I'll be lucky if it passes review as none of my comments never do. I hate to say this, because yeah I have Enjoyed seeing your team suffer as it's only natural for a Celtic fan, but I hope you get back to the top ASAP (Not by Bribing or leapfrogging leagues) Ranger's competing will only make Celtic better :D

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Without players such as Templeton, Little, Shiels etc we would struggle to get out of this League.

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23 Mar 2013 14:08:43
Hat's off to Stirling Great performance by them clearly were the better side.

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23 Mar 2013 14:04:15
Not sure where to start. awful, just awful!

Out played and out thought. Stirling seemed to have two extra players

I was going to say Ally does not have the answer but to be honest, I don't think he understands the question.

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23 Mar 2013 14:00:28
Another point on the way to the title. Well done to ally and the boys.

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You're having a laugh, surely?

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23 Mar 2013 14:00:14
Sandaza sitting at home with a cold one thinking thank you for suspension, oh how we laugh!

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Well 4.5k a week is a lot of beer tokens. I just hope all taxes etc have been paid............don't worry it is being looked into ...oooppppssss

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23 Mar 2013 13:57:41
Serious like, do the team in blue actuALLY pay some of them players! Sign me up cause I am not doing much this weather.

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23 Mar 2013 13:52:23
How many excuses have you got left ally {The Ed039's Note - If Ally doesnt understand today that he is not a football manager then he never will)

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Just a question to all how many of you who post on this board have actually managed a professional football club? Especially one with limited playing resources, where, a small pool is decimated by seven injuries and 1 suspension plus knowing it is all but won already and has already been almost achieved. No excuses, no apologies, but really getting a little peeved with the short sighted ness and negativity by the so called supporters on here. Pull your heads in for goodness sake and have more pride in your selfs. This is not a shortcut we are taking to get back to where we once were, but. Long road. The future of Rangers is a positive one and we will get there with or without the doubting brigade. In the words of an old Rangers stalwart and to the true Rangers Supporters Keep Believing because very shortly we will be back, bigger, stronger, and more powerfull than we have ever been.

Ozzie Al

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@ 1, not with mccoist we won't be back.

yes we may have had several players out but still no excuse and we have been dire all season even with a full squad.

so I think you need to pull your head in and smell the coffee, we are utter garbage and will never improve under ally!

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Entitled to your opinion Al but it would seem you're in the minority.
You talk of limited playing resources?!? WTF
Need I remind you of the players we have at the club. Players of experience, players with international caps, players who have played in Seria A on a regular basis, players who have captained their country at youth level, players who have played in successful European campaigns and even a euro final!?!?! We've got full time players on 4. 5, 5, 6k per week, training full time at a multi million pound state of the art training complex FFS!. and here you are talking about limited playing resources and a few injuries. FFS Al, we should be able to put a team on the park that wipes the floor with the part timers of the 3rd division who truly do have limited playing resources!
Also mate, and I mean this with all sincerity if a little presumptuous? Does your name suggest that you live in Oz or you are an Ozzie by birth? I only ask as from your stance it would seem you are not one of us who is able to sit freezing his b******* of at Ibrox week after week watching this dross. If that's the case I don't think it makes me anymore passionate about my club than you, or indeed anymore of a supporter; but I do think it grants me more right to be p1ssed off and expect better. My whole family is watching me effectively p!55 money away mate and my only justification is I love my club! my excuses are running out faster than Allys!

Baybear

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Ozzie Al, in all honesty mate tell me one positive that has came out of the last year. just one! Green has lied through his teeth time after time and gullible fools like you have believed his bull. Never mind all his stories about Adidas etc etc what happened to renaming Murray Park? I know it is a small thing and we have problems a huindred times bigger but wasn't that one of his selling points with season tickets? Green is playing all of us like an old fiddle and imo McCoist is a disgrace for helping him in all this. If Ally had even one shred of dignity he would walk away and come out with the TRUTH about what is happening to our club. John Brown walked out because of something Green said to him, do you think for a minute Ally doesn't know what was said or why Brown was standing outside Ibrox calling for CG to prove who owned Ibrox etc. You need to open your eyes mate, this is a crucial time in our club's journey and people denying the major problems for a fear of losing face to Celtic fans is one of the major hurdles we need to get over. Look what happened the last time we didn't ask the questions we should have been. Sorry for the rant but I lost my job last year so couldn't afford to renew my season ticket and it hurts like hell to say for the first time that I am glad I couldn't pay. So Ozzie, as I asked, name me one positive thing that has happened since Green came in that will spur me on to try to save up for next years ticket......

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Al,
I take exeption to you doubting wether I am a "true" supporter. not even sure what that means TBH

This long road you talk about is being made to feel even longer by Ally and his complete lack of, or even an attempt at, entertaining football. We lack tactical sense, leadership or organization on the park, fitness and last but not least, quality. take your pick!
Do you want the best for your club or just not want to take a awkward decision in parting with Ally. Option 2 is weak and bad for any club

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I won't go on about the players.
My issue is with a manager who cannot deal with adversity in a game. Ally will always be my hero, but for crying out loud, we need someone in who plays the men in their strongest positions - Little at striker, not winger.
We have Crawford who I thought could have been played on the wing, and did for a bit today, as he was moved around 4 positions. Why not play the kid there? We have the older players in to supply experience, but when they're out of position, and we're playing 5-4-1 against third division opponents, the problem is clearly NOT the players, but the manager.
You can see they're being told to play a certain way. I have no idea what it is. this is far too weird.
Outer Limits weird.

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Your question asked me to name one positive, fair enough. Here it is as a long time associate of RFC I had my worries before the season kicked its first ball we would still be alive? Well we are not just alive but winning division by 21 points. If you had asked me that at this time last year I dread to think what my answer may have been. That in my book is a big positive. Problems are always going to happen at any club. But the day your players stop coming to you as a leader is the day you have failed to lead them, they have either decided you do not have the knowledge to help them or that you do not really care, either way you have failed them as a leader. Ally has been a true leader in what he has had to deal with this season, and under the guidance of other great leaders who have established themselves such as Struth, white, Waddell, Symon, and Smith, will become a legend within the history of this worldwide institution. So near celebrating 55.

Ozzie Al

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Al apart from some of the games during the greig era where I can't recall the terrible drudgery of going to the games, was young and liked a refreshment
this game today will I hope be the worst i have ever ever seen
what makes it worse
the time and effort spent scouting these guys. no small amount
the time and effort to build a terrific training ground. no small amount
the time and effort to build a good stadium. no small amount
the time and effort spent to feed and look after the guys. no small amount
the time and effort the fans gave today to get there in very cold weather
the time and effort the fans gave in getting together the money to go today

ozzie talks cheap. and i, m afraid your cheap my freind
im sorry for the older guy on my bus proud to take his grandson to the game. and sorry for him as we all ask if this is the worst we, ve ever seen

dont be cheap by giving us this p@sh
action by fans and now share holders is what's required. not cheap talk. Les

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@ozzie Al; You really are starting to sound ridiculous mate. Who would you say is the leader the players would go to? Ally? A manager who persists in playing a 4-5-1 formation against part time teams at home? A manager who seems to have no idea of how to change the shape of a team? Look at the substitutions today, did they fill you with confidence? As for the future of Rangers being a positive one. I guess you think Mr Green is wonderful? he is now starting to look foolish with none of his promises coming to fruition. let's see what the audited accounts say before rash statements like bigger and more powerful are used.

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Al if it had not been cg that got his foot in the door first it would have been ws or the blue knights or whoever ime fairly possitive our club would and will always be here cheers

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23 Mar 2013 13:45:29
Cg look at the seats we are fed up watching this dros ally must go or ure season tickets will be lucky to get 10 thousand act now so we can get decent players in for next season cause I and several others will not be back while ally in co are incharge

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We don't do? The battle cry that's stopping Ally from doing the decent thing. Look on the bright side Durrant and McDowell will step up to the plate!

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This is the crux though mate. Rangers are in our hearts just like a family member and unfortunately we've shown Chuck our hand early. I can honestly say that even if it makes me a mug I will renew for next season. Ally or not. I just can't bring myself to abandon my club no more than I would abandon watching my son play if he was mince every week. I reserve the right to be pissed off though, and miss the odd game when I need to restore my sanity!

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Bye bye my fair weather friend. You are no supporter. You will definitely fit in with all the other long term losers on the other side of the city. Get some gonads mate and realise the secret of Champions is when the going gets tough, the tough get going

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@3 Is that not what the guy said, he was going?
Tam

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@3. really? Going gets tough. In the third division with half a team of SPL players. There are players at Ibrox who earn more in a week than those Stirling boys earn in a year from football! Have a word with yourself mate.

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@3 Loser's on the other side of the city,, unbelievable.
Tam

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23 Mar 2013 13:34:42
Now we've taken off our left mid and replaced him with a right back.

We're clearly playing for the point!

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Another tactical masterstroke!

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Plan A - win league.

No plan B, or other aim, cup runs not on cards.

Next stage loosehalf backroom staff, and start next season with kids.

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@2 did ally not say he believed he could win all trophies this season? And that good cup runs were important for the club?
Funny how getting papped out of everything V early changes a manager's season goals isn't it?

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23 Mar 2013 13:31:18
This is embarrassing! Ally - get a grip mate!

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23 Mar 2013 13:27:40
Super Ally! Super Ally! Away, away ye go!

No wonder there's nobody there, if that's the dross fans are subjected to every week!

Miko x

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I know you're lovin' this Miko but Bears, I can't disagree with the man.
I missed my first home game today as quite frankly I just couldn't face it. The thought of another 2 hr drive to sit in the Baltic wind watching 90 mins of utter dross just couldn't be justified. Thank god for secondary ticketing! although I doubt anyone would've taken up my allocation. That said, I may be a mug but I'll still be renewing for next season, Ally or not.

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23 Mar 2013 13:17:27
Am I mistaken, or are we playing 5-4-1 against Stirling?

Alexander

Hegarty, Faure, McCulloch, Cribari, Wallace

McKay, Black, Hutton, Aird

Hemmings


UNBELIEVABLE!

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I don't think I could stand another season of this. We at least deserve some entertainmentl

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No we are just not playing no matter what formation, utter garbage! sick of this pash.

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Dint mean to be negative but there are a lot of empty seats at the game is this the novelty wearing off now or are we jist sick of this embarrassing performance week in week out. I dint even want ally up stairs its jist another wage that's not justified on our road to recovery. w. a. t. p r. t. i. d

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Ally doesn't do walking away, he should maybe try running.

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23 Mar 2013 13:07:23
2mins into second half and Alexander already punting up park, not got a clue and mc coist standing watching

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23 Mar 2013 12:58:19
First game I've missed all season, breaking my heart sitting in house watching this, could quite easily be 2down, shocking plzzzz ally just go,

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Have to be honest, stirling albion were by far the better team today, organisation, passing, and better goal chances. Its there for all to see, we have a long long way to go, and even longer if that muppet and his coaching staff remain in charge. Tough times ahead fellow bears, I don't get any pleasure from saying it, ally go now and take the rest with you. jimbo.

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23 Mar 2013 12:30:15
I thought top flight football was suspended at the moment due to International commitmennts? But Rangers are playing? Ahhh, I see "top-flight" football. Not Div 3 mince. Enjoy peeeeple!

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23 Mar 2013 12:24:48
Fingers crossed that Ally can get us safely through to half-time without losing a goal. Come on Super-Ally and The Gers!

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He got all way to end without loosing a goal, or scoring one?

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23 Mar 2013 04:35:46
I think it might be just me but does anyone else feel bad for Sandaza because despite the fact that a celtic fan is so obsessed he needs to spend his time trying to ruin Rangers players careers. And I know he has done nothing since joining but when you look at history even in the past few years you see Steven Naismith who was rubbish at first then got an injury then came back and got a chance and was brilliant which was without the Rangers fans on his back which most have been on Sandazas without him even getting a real chance so you can't really blame him for wanting to leave and also he did not say one bad word about Rangers, there fans or management team.

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You will find this is probably worke out perfectly for us, it may be the opportunity to offload this dud.

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Agree completely.

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I should have said. Sandaza would no doubt be used to having a striking partner, as would most strikers.

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Oh dear - the old obsessed nonsense again. Ever thought he just wanted to have a laugh at the expense of Rangers? Nothing to do with obsession. By your logic, all wind-ups must come about because of obsession - the guy on Real Radio (or whatever station it was) who did the wind-ups must be a psychologist's dream!

And how did the prankster ruin Sandaza's career?! Surely it's the player's fault for being sucked into displaying the true extent of his ambition. If anyone is ruining the careers at Rangers it's the players through their performances and the management team.

1903

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23 Mar 2013 00:26:02
What a mess, the biggest club in div three, the league titles in SPL and div three are over by Easter. Clubs are in major financial difficulties, fans are leaving by the thousands. Hearts, Dunfermline and a few others may well be about to disappear, and our national team is useless. Two points from four games, we will do well to get another two points from the remaining games in the group.

46 years ago a Scottish team won the European Cup, 41 years ago a Scottish team won the Cup Winners Cup, Aberdeen did the same in the eighties. We have not qualified for a competition since 1998. My son is fourteen, and may never see us in finals.

We have lunatics in charge of the asylum, we have no plans to improve, we have been beaten five times out of the last time we have played Wales FFS.

Would the last one out turn off the lights and lock up.

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Rangers won two titles from 1965-1987 so a crap Rangers isn't necassarily bad for Scottish football at international level. (We qualified for 3 world cus in that time). Seems like you almost enjoy Scotland's woes and somehow think the whole football universe is off kilter because you are in division 3, trust me it isn't.

Gaz

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Gaz, grow up. Who mentioned that a poor Rangers means a poor Scotland.
You obviously think everything in the garden is rosie. How dare you accuse me of enjoying Scotland's woes, I have been at every game at Hampden for the last twelve years. Have you?
You are one of those who sits and slags everybody that has an opinion.
Your problem time after time is that you don't read what is posted. Do you think that Scottish football is not at its lowest ebb in forty plus years?
Why not get off the Rangers bias and open your eyes.

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Who said a poor Rangers equals a poor Scotland? How do you make comments like this to what is a factual statement in every way. Tell me one sentence that is not true, not the sentences that your warped mind sees but what is actually written. For somebody that clearly despises Rangers, why do you spend half your life on here?

It's called obsession my friend.

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Gaz it was 4

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The OP starts with "what a mess, the biggest club in division 3" and we are not meant to find significance in that? Why write it then?

Rangers won the league in 64, then 76 and 78 and then nowt till the last year I mentioned (87) so between 64 till 87 they won two.

@3) I take issue with the biggest club in Scotland being in division 3 for a start and for talking sake if you want another error its two points in five games, man u make this too easy at times.

@2) Do you disagree that a number of Rangers fans no longer support Scotland, go onto other sites I'm sure you'll find some delighted by tonights score. I don't slag well informed opinions, presumptious Rangers tinted, generally innaccurate garbage I'll jump on all night however.

I think we are pretty poor internationally. We have had 2 European finalists in the past 10 years, bare in mind we have to go back to 1987 for the last one before that.

Of course it is in a mess but what annoys me is Rangers fans sudden concerns about it, was Jim Farry one of those asylum dwellers you talk of or was he okay because of the Cadete thing, was divisions 1, 2 and 3's lack of cash trickling down fine before or only an issue now because Rangers are smack in the middle of it? A lot of this Rangers scorn is perhaps a frustration at where you are, I get that, truly but it's not in its situation because you are there (div 3) and you are not there because of the situation. Simply put, Rangers woes (not Scottish footballs) are down to 2 former owners first and last.

Fans come and go, often economy related, you could get a ticket for the 1980 old firm scottish cup final the day before the game in AT Mays, I always remember that (either end of the ground). Imagine it being that easy getting a similar ticket now, that's why the attendances I think are not a long term decline, recession, a fairly poor product and 3/4 leagues all but won in March clearly aren't helping however. On the flip side the 10th and 11th teams in the SPL pulled in 43,000 for the final last week. It comes and goes.

Gaz

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I'm a tic man. I don't think op was saying its all down to rangers woes. Be fair, even in the third div they, be it the rangers or whoever (I care not a jot) are still a massive part of the Scottish game. How could you have any analysis of it without mentioning them? Yet again these forums show how fans are bitterly divided which suits the clowns in charge perfectly - let them scrap amongst themselves - instead of uniting and being a unstoppable force for positive change HH joe

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Great post gaz! Keep it up mate!

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Think green will start massive clear out once div 3 won. and then try to justify a hike in ST??

cant see this happening. interest and paying customers will drift in last 10 games.

so ST money is key.

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Scottish football in the doldrums - correct.

Who stuffed Rangers. Murray

Who stuffed Hearts. a rangers man (Ogilvie?)

Who stuffer Dumfermline. Murrays pal Masteron. and Murray picked Calderwood?

its a conspiracy. and fans mugged

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I agree 100%with post. Like many others I am becoming disillusioned with football (especially Scottish). It is too becoming too painful to watch Rangers and Scotland in particular as they are both so bad at present. The people and associations are clueless on how to improve our game and take it forward. Their are so many things wrong with Scottish Football at the moment. We almost at rock bottom and all we have is the anti Rangers obsession in this country from all sides.

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@3: someone's a bit bitter talking using words like despise and warped mind. Try to read the posts with a bit of objectivity - just because someone posts something you don't like, should it mean you reach for overly-emotive rhetoric and insults? Why not trying to engage Gaz in some debate, like he's done with his post in which he attempts to justify his original and refute some of your accusations. That's what proper banter is.

1903

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@3: did you know that you don't have to like Rangers to post on here? It's a site for banter about Rangers, not a site for Rangers fans.

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Gas you just like to turn everything onto Rangers you say it's all our fault then say it was Whyte & Murrays fault your just a pretty bitter man who can't go a day without talking about Rangers. Part of the problem at internationals is that we bring on the almighty headless chicken in the 1st half when uve got a young fit goal machine on the bench in Rhodes I know it was a big game but we need to bleed this guy into the team just like Scotland's other top prospects like Forrest, McKay-Steven, Russell, that's how all the other nations do it look at the Wales side must have been much younger than ours. What is it with Scottish managers & going for the most experience it doesn't always work. I think the 3 from Wigan were pretty terrible I like McArthur as a player but he's not James McCarthy who turned out a better player! Caldwell is a sorry excuse for a captain & wee Shaun is way past his best. Chris Burke can be dangerous but I think we could mould any of the 3 above mentioned into better players. I never thought i'd say this 10 years ago playing Football manager laughing at his funny name as a kid but Robert Snodgrass is the best player we have!

Larky Bear

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@12 if this is a page about rangers, then the celtic page should be about crltic, yet it is littered with rangers stories?

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Gaz is the new Timalloy, never off here lol. CheltBlue

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@15: and doesn't he have as equal a right to post as you? His brand of banter seems to wind-up so many on here. Too easy for him really.

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@16 I like you lol.

Larky where did I ever say all of this is Rangers fault, the international team has been on a downward curve for ages.

As for the powers that be, they have always been persons, the same clowns that turned their noses up to early World Cup invites, the same clowns who refused an invite to the 1966 World Cup unless we won the Home Internationals tourney (which we didn't). A World Cup on our doorstep with a squad that included Law, Baxter, Johnstone, Lennox, Greig, McNeill and all the rest, mind-boggling stupid.

And as for the state of the overall game, did Rangers fans really give a monkeys about the attendance at Arbroath v Alloa games during the Champions League runs, trebles, doubles or helicopter Sundays, me thinks not.

Speaking of these dropping attendances EVERY team in division 3 has saw their avg attendance go up, Ross County's is up, Dundee's is up. I would imagine QOS is up, Partick and Morton are probably up, as would be any team promoted from Div 3 to 2 and possibly 2 to 1. Dundee Utd's is possibly around the same in the they didn't get Rangers but did get 2 Dundee derbies, so there is at least 15 teams with higher attendances than last year, another myth exploded.

Gaz

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The biggest club in Scotland are in div three. However Gaz interprets that as because Rangers are poor, Scotland are poor.

What chance of a reasoned debate of the state of our game in Scotland.

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@18: where's the proof that it's the biggest club? How can the biggest club as far as European football, income etc. be one that doesn't make the most and has no prospect of European football. Your definition of biggest is too subjective - try to be objective.

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@18 when did you add mind-reader to your precious few talents? But sure I'll bite, what in your opinion defines Scotland's biggest club? I've got a funny feeling all attributes you name will currently be held by Rangers and will ignore some glaringly obvious ones that Celtic hold, two can play mind reader you know!

Gaz

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Gaz, that is not the point and you know it, you are just being difficult. I said they are the biggest because they are the best supported team in the country. Ok to keep you happy hows this, one of two biggest clubs in the country is in div three, happy?

However your original answer is the problem with this country. I was making the point that our national game is in a hell of a mess, I gave numerous reasons why. But you completely misread or more likely chose to misread the post and came out with an answer that had nothing to do with the point made, you just used it as another reason to have a pop.

If you think that the game is ok, then a visit to specsavers is urgently required.

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Rangers are only a freak show now. People pay attention just for the simple reason of to see how funny it will get before the freaks waken up. The whole of Britain are laughing at Scotland's newest teams constant comedy.

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@21 You haven't left a name I don't know if I'm continuing conversing with you or a newcomer or Larky Bear etc, know what I mean? But sure I agree the national game is a disaster but as I said to LB it's been on a downward curve for years.

You did start with "biggest team in div 3" right away I thought "erm on what grounds?" And as for best supported, that's been Celtic 9 seasons out of the last 12 based on League attendances include Europe or base it on income from support or even income from league fixture gates and Celtic walk it, this season by who knows how many millions.

In another post I also suggested you were wrong regards fans leaving in their thousands, 15 at least are up on last year, haven't I answered those points? So how am I being difficult, the game is on a downward curve, I take issue with biggest team, 3/4 titles are nearly over (happened a lot during the 9 in a row but no one complained near Govan), fans AREN'T leaving in their thousands and sure a few teams may go to the wall and yes our national team is useless. There, I've answered it all (for about the third time).

My first point was that if you are tying all that up to Rangers being in div 3 then a) I don't think they are all necessarily related nor the cause and b) history has showed us that a weak (or weaker) side of the old firm isn't necessarily all doom and gloom for Scottish football, I don't see the tie up for example to the international team.

Gaz

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23 Mar 2013 00:03:10
Scotland get beat at home by another British team, got to be the bears fault!

Nacho novo no problem, wot are the tims going to do to beat their unbelievable last 16 because they play in a p!sh league and it was so so so unbelievable. Really wot does that say about scottish football that they crow about it. A football club in a wee country in a wee league doing wot? nuff said.

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Neither Rangers or Celtic have anything to do with that pathetic result tonight. Stop obsessing about them aswell, you give them pelters when they do the same to us. Any sane person would understand the magnitude of getting to the last sixteen with scottish football in the state its in.

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It seems strange that you say that given the endless references to winning 54 titles in that same country??

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If that's what they choose as a manager, then Scotland have no chance.

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Strachan has more talent is his left baw than Sally has as a coach mate

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N4 how do you know that cheers

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@5: Strachan's won things as a manager.

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