Rangers Banter Archive September 23 2015

23 Sep 2015 22:21:05
Tonight's games show how little there is between SPL and leading championship teams.

24 Sep 2015 06:41:06
Ha ha Doiger the phrase "grasping at straws" comes to mind
I wish I was your bookie, how are your 10-0 bets coming on bye the way lol

24 Sep 2015 07:07:42
Pity the nite before didn't show that eh!! Lol

24 Sep 2015 10:19:45
If yous lot showed the same enthusiasm for your own mob as you obsess over ours, you could probably swell your gate to over the 14000 mark for a game not being televised live, had to check to make sure you actually were at home.

24 Sep 2015 10:54:19
Yeah, 2-0 hammering of mighty Raith rovers.

24 Sep 2015 11:43:17
sotonbear
Well said mate, somebody will get sacked for giving out the real crowd instead of Mr Liewell's made up numbers

24 Sep 2015 14:58:24
Figures & TRIFC just don't go! When's the Audited figures being released?

24 Sep 2015 17:41:14
Steffantos
What happened to the CELTIC FOOTBALL & ATHLETIC CLUB, we would all like to know

24 Sep 2015 18:27:54
I heard a strong rumour that Liewell had ordered a couple of light aircraft to do a kind of Febreze fly past last night just before the game. I guess that would explain the poor attendance.

24 Sep 2015 18:48:41
Only 14000 at the game last nite because the smell is getting unbearable Celtic and soap don't go its magic u no

25 Sep 2015 12:56:45
Steffantos
Still waiting for your answer?

23 Sep 2015 19:32:39
Think we played well in parts last night but I always thought against better opposition a proper Defensive Midfielder would be needed to tighten things up. Halliday is a good player and can easily handle it at championship level but we need someone like Eustace in there for the harder games to cover for the full backs when they go forward and push Halliday forward in place of Holt/Zalalem.
From last nights performance it showed we need a CDM, a striker and quite possibly a CB, although a would like to see the two we've got with a Eustace type player in front of them first.
I'm quite willing to wait till after Xmas at least before saying any of this team are not good enough for SPFL though, could simply have been a case of bad day at the office, we all have them.

24 Sep 2015 10:02:37
"...we need someone like Eustace in there..."

How do you know? Has anyone ever seen him play? There have been posts on here almost asking if he even exists.

24 Sep 2015 18:32:51
In the old words of Corporal Jones - 'dont panic!' Let's go with the flow. One bad game doesn't mean we're a bad side. I keep saying this but look at Hibs last night. And remember St Johnstone beat them at home last season. Was there a great hullaballoo about that?

23 Sep 2015 17:02:45
I believe that if Waghorn scores as he should have Or oduwhas shot that hit the bar goes in then we would have won.

Certainly no gulf in class, yes they pressed harder and faster but we played the better football throughout and I thought St Johnstone players were knackered towards the end of the game.

If we draw them in the scottish cup in 6 months I would expect a completely different result and would be confident we would beat them comfortably.

Still going in the right direction!

23 Sep 2015 19:57:31
i would expect a different result if playing them on saturday its not often i agree with g spiers of the herald this time i do

24 Sep 2015 17:04:58
If buts and maybe lol stef. Funny how u didn't mention Macleans miss of the season.Oh and just for clarification that u expect to beat them in 6 months. U expected that 6 months ago and 6 months before that and so on. But it ain't happened. Did u expect to beat Motherwell in the play off, or did u expect to beat hearts to the title. Some have even mentioned how Hearts are rotten and their bubble has burst . Do you even realise what your saying? This is a team that beat you by 24 points last season lol.

24 Sep 2015 17:10:45
Stef: I agree, it was the same against Motherwell at Ibrox, they pressed and hit us with quick attacks, we have the football but we need to play in a quick direct way on the break against SPL teams.

24 Sep 2015 18:02:37
rayman
Did you expect to beat a team ranked 134TH in europe

24 Sep 2015 18:35:01
Rayman
Wat are you taking about? 6 months and 6 months and 6 months! What a load of pish you are talking!

23 Sep 2015 10:36:23
I think the result has to be taken in context, in the Championship the players get that extra bit of time to make a pass etc. the difference is last night St Johnstone closed play down much faster and pressed more.

as you would expect from a team from a higher league. I am sure Mr Warburton will address this in training. Overall this was an excellent learning opportunity and showed we can compete..the stats prove it, I certainly didn't take as a "Doing" just a mixture of slackness and probably naivety. We are on the right track and will only get better.

23 Sep 2015 16:39:06
And don't forget - St Johnstone beat Celtic at Parkhead last season. Let's put it into context. We are not that bad. We don't need massive investment to compete against the teams in the top flight, including Celtic

23 Sep 2015 16:58:43
My god, it's not even 24hrs and seeker you've convinced yourself that rangers will win premier league next year, everything is Rosie again, no problem

23 Sep 2015 17:09:08
Geddes: I agree, it wasn't a doing, we were just up against a more clinical team who were more streetwise than teams we have played this season, but we put up a good show in the second half and it's just about being clinical again.

23 Sep 2015 21:47:04
Memaself
Look at the results tonight. Do you think Hibs are better than Rangers? No? Well they just beat a full strength sheep side 2-0. And everybody is saying we should be terrified of them and Septic. celtic just struggled to beat Raith who we crushed 5-0. It's a one off game in the cups. Anything can happen

24 Sep 2015 08:41:31
Seeker, the system rangers play is wide open for counter attack, yes good going forward but up against a decent defence and quick forwards you'll lose goals

23 Sep 2015 13:57:11
Am i the only person who thought St Johnstones second goal should have been given offside going by the new rules? Their number 9 was clearly interfering with play with being practically in front of the goalie when the ball was struck? I'm not taking anything away from the goal, it was a peach but rules are there for a reason. I would also mention i thought the referee was poor and made some strange decisions such as booking Tav for the slightest of pulls yet letting Davidson away with a rugby tackle 2 minutes later. Anyway, now that we've been brought back to reality, do you all think we are going with the right tactics? I personlly think we should either find some sort of DM to sit in front of the back 2 or go 3-5-1-1 and play 3 at the back with Tav and Wallace playing as wingbacks. I'd put Oduwa just behind Waghorn with Halliday, Holt and Mackay as the other 3 in Midfield and drop Miller and Zelalem to the bench. What's your thoughts?

{Ed039's Note - Cant be chopping goals off for that, could have had 2 keepers and still wouldnt have saved that shot)

23 Sep 2015 10:52:19
Y r people being so negative we r in the re building process give it a chance and johnnyg we've played in lower leagues with full houses so that's why we r the best fans fed up with all the moaning remember warburton is learning up here aswel so let's just keep getting behind the club let's not act like the other side of glasgow and calling for heads and slagging players off

23 Sep 2015 11:31:10
It amazes me all the people trying to blame wilson and kiernan, at times they were the only 2 defending against 3-4 players lol.. it's the way we play now we will concede goals.. you can't say the game was boring. St Johnstone deserve some amount of credit.

23 Sep 2015 11:40:00
Scotty bang on the money mate, it is a learning curve for all, if we were offered our current position in July I think most of us would have snapped the hand off, the team will almost certainly improve, and in MW and DW I think we have potentially the best management team in Scotland, and in them we must trust they WILL get us there.

23 Sep 2015 12:34:49
The best management team in Scotland. Here we go. The arrogance is back already. You are a good championship team.

23 Sep 2015 13:01:26
Martybhoy3? Arrogance? It wasn't our coach that said the league was too easy! It was john heed the baw Collins! Just u worry about the smelly mob m8

23 Sep 2015 13:53:35
Mary where was the arrogance in my post, it was purely my observation and opinion of where our management team are and their potential in the future, didn't notice you put delilah and Collins up as a valid argument, thankfully yous don't have the money to get shot of them, and as long as that's the case the arrogant wee song u sing about 10 in a row is nothing more than a laughable ditty.

23 Sep 2015 13:43:17
Martyboy- Yesterday you said we were an average team if that, now today it's a good championship team, not bad average to good in 24 hours wonder what it will be in 6 months

23 Sep 2015 16:19:24
Sotonbear I think 10 in a row is more realistic than ever after that performance last nite!! Let's not forget St Johnstone had played 4 away games before last nite and won none of them!! So the only thing that's laughable is your statement about your management team! And am I wrong in saying Ronnie has won titles in 2 countries! Many has your new saviour won?? Will I tell u??? Lol and as for we don't have the money if we decided to get rid of him and JC! Another load of garbage!!! Let's not bring up teams not having money pal! Pot kettle and black springs to mind! Lol

23 Sep 2015 12:14:03
in the cold light of day we were not so good in the previous 2 games and basically you can't win every game. what warburton said was correct, saints were not miles in front us, we had chances that in other games were goals but we lost bad goals last night, or if you like punished for mistakes. we will lose goals but should score more than we lose.

andy halliday had his worst game in a rangers jersey, oduwa was largely innefective due to saints marking as was the lad from arsenal. but there is no point in going off at a tangent saying we need 6 players or whatever. one defeat in twelve if there had been a poll at the start of the season asking if we would settled for 1 defeat in 12 we would have thought we were in 7th heaven.

we must say that's the game over now we must now concentrate on the next league game against morton which our bread and butter depends on so let's give warburton and co the same level of support and let them get on with the job in hand

23 Sep 2015 17:16:03
BiGWULL : Big game on Sunday and of course a tough one, look at Morton's win last night and always a tricky match at Cappielow.

23 Sep 2015 19:30:50
Dh88, what yardstick did you measure your team by when they got horsed by Morton in the League Cup or Inverness in the Scottish Cup?

23 Sep 2015 21:07:00
Horsed by Morton and iness! I don't remember us getting horsed pal!! Aye we got beat but at no stage were getting pumped 3 nil!!! Now that's a horsing!!! Horsed!!! Hahaha aye nae bother! And what yardstick do u judge your mob when Morton could beat us yet u couldn't even manage a shot on goal against us !!! Now that was a 2 nil horsing if I ever seen one!!! Lol

23 Sep 2015 08:50:46
Disappointing result last night but maybe everyone should calm down and look at it for a minute.

We were caught out at the back plain and simple. We have enough in defence for the championship but Wilson is being caught out pace wise quite often now. The defence coming up to support the midfield is leaving too much distance for them to cover on the counter attack. A tactic that all teams we play now will now adopt. They have to sit deeper or drop Wilson for Ball.

Anyway, maybe last night had to happen. We were all getting a little carried away with how good we have been. The team has hit a lull over the last few games scoring less and now defeated. These players hadn't tasted defeat until now and possibly its a good thing that they have. They seem like a tight knit group and play for the full 90 mins. Look at the pressure applied in the last half hour last night. let's give them the benefit of the doubt and look at the positives rather than negatives. We are on the way back and better this happened in League Cup rather than Scottish Cup. In Warburton we trust.

23 Sep 2015 10:30:18
I agree airus blue. As I've said before and others too, there was no way we were going to go throughout the entire season without losing or drawing games. Even in our nine-in-a-row years we lost games! Not getting the chance to see many games as I live on the south coast of England, I had avidly read all the reports in newspapers and comments on here and was looking forward to the game. I was disappointed. St. Johnstone were nothing special though they did win the Scottish Cup last season. The third goal killed any chance of coming back. Had we scored that goal early in the second half then it would have been a different story. I thought that when we went forward we did so quickly and with pace. Outstanding player for me was Waghorn. Defence looks shaky in the middle and don't fancy the goalkeeper. I like Tavernier and Wallace. I'd have played Barrie Mackay from the start and maybe now it is time to give Shiels, Ball, Hardie and Aird a run. No need to panic though - I'd rather be out of the cups and win the league at a canter. Hearts' bubble has burst in the SPL with three straight defeats so they are beginning to find it hard to adjust to the higher level.

23 Sep 2015 11:15:42
U can't just ignore the negatives of which there were plenty. How many great saves did their keeper make? Face it we were comfortably beaten by an average team. That performance is where we are at the moment and there is still a big gap between us and average premiership sides let alone the Celtics and Aberdeens

23 Sep 2015 13:12:18
Who said there wasn't negatives...what I am saying is were in a process of becoming the better team that we want to be. It can't happen over night and has only been three months since this team was assembled. We are ahead of plan but have a ways to go yet to be able to compete.

23 Sep 2015 17:05:54
Alrus, it sounds to me your towing the warburton party line, the way the team is set up is the problem, and I think he didn't show st Johnstone the respect they were due. A well drilled team, and let's face it, are not known for scoring lots of goals.

23 Sep 2015 07:56:43
cant believe the negative attitude on here. so we got beat. if the team were all duds as suggested then why are we clear at top of championship. every team raises there game against rangers and celtic. the team is young and only been together a few month. we didn't play well and the players probably believed there own hype. our objective is to get out the league.

23 Sep 2015 11:17:00
We are playing against a lot of part time teams in the division and have a huge budget compared to them. That's why we are top