Rangers Banter Archive December 24 2014

 

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24 Dec 2014 21:22:37
It is nice to see that King is alive and kicking, but like his puppets[the uof], he has nothing to offer to take us forward. Somers is there for a reason and it's not as the brains, just like ally.
Today's decision is a joke and will not hold water. If Ashley wants to pursue control he will achieve it and the sooner King and the murrays realise it, the better it will be for us. The last decent Murray that was good for us was Maxie, a centre in the 50's and 60's.
Also, on the king ''offer'' can anyone tell me who would benefit apart from davie boy, certainly not the club.
All I ask my fellow fans to do is look at the big picture and don't fall into the 'b' movie crap.

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25 Dec 2014 01:38:25
if king had nothing to offer why were 3 board members going to accept his offer offer it seems to me he had the funds somers and easdales sayed he never if u belive them then u must be buttoned up the back if ashley goes ahead he and rangers deserve everything they get the team would benefit from kings deal

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Simple answer to your question---- desperation, Craig. But, what the hell, Merry Christmas to one and all. More important things in life. Today is all about family, friends and a special thought for those no longer with us.
All the best.

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25 Dec 2014 20:29:13
Billyb why will the 10% deal not hold water? The rules are 3%. Ashley was given permission to increase to a maximum of 10%, so he is not going to get any more support from the SFA. Inless Adhley sells Newcastle his involvement in Rangers moving forward will be on a commercial basis. He now will NOT be underwriting the new share issue. Question is will anyone else? Would be surprised if anyone steps forward now.

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Johnny, Ashley has too much to lose and will finance the deal through another one of his companies. Who knows, his finger might be in the pie under another guise[ maybe even as one of the nameless shareholders!]

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24 Dec 2014 15:33:05
sitting last couple days thinking how the land lays we have got rid of ally we appear to have ashley on board we are in a position where the glass is half full or half empty I reckon at the minute that's thats as good as it going to be in the short term so iam waiting to see what kenny macdowalls team selection is for saturday and things look a bit better I reckon I will go back as I have stated that it was macoist my gripe was with

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I wouldn't hold my breath for much change under NcDowall as he has already stated this. Maybe he will surprise us and I hope he picks an attacking team against Hibs. A good win and fans wil start backing the club again

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24 Dec 2014 15:17:52
Hi Bears

Its obvious that all involved at Rangers since Sir David have been in it for self interest, this pathetic email from a more than pathetic man proves it.

I can not for the life of me see why some people want to feed these asset strippers any more money, because that is all they are.

Ask yourself why they don't want Dave King and his consortium anywhere near power? The three directors who were voting for it have been removed in a chop by MA, why? Laxley were even voting for it and that's why the so called board couldn't get the resolution they wanted. I think MA doesn't want them in because he is an original investor, one of Charlie's gang, so are the easdales. Has anyone Chicky brought in been any good? Or have they all been asset strippers looking for what they can from our club? These people are keeping King and co out to keep their grip on our club and its crazy contracts.

I for one hope honest Rangers lovingbusiness men get control, only then will we see exactly wwhat's been done to our club and I agree that there may be legal implications as directors are duty bound to act in the best interests of the company and shar

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Is the board not legally bound to take kings offer now rather than let rangers slip into admin, surely they can't keep taking prop up loans when there's an offer on the table that would stabilise the club. They are already being held accountable for not excepting first time round but can't knock it back now that Ashley is not being aloud to increase his stake.

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Rm gers. You have told it like it is in one wee passage. , that's the way most of us see it, but some people beleive these people are there for the good of the club phew. they have one thing driving them on it's called money,

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Rm I gree that everyone scince sir david has shafted the club and support but I think ashley based on his buisness reputation he will at least make the club profitable and from there the club will return to its former glories there would be no problem with asley being a fit and proper person to own club we do not know if that would be the case with dave king and his cronies

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BigWull, I personally include SDM as his control of finances helped get the club into this mess in the first place, my opinion anyway.

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Bigwull. I think that people will need to know Ashley's plans, no disrespect to new utd, but we are the biggest club in our wee country so come on mike let us know the plans.

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24 Dec 2014 11:15:11
Can I just wish ED001 and ED039 and everybody on here
Nollaig Shona (Happy Christmas)
Also I would like to say thank you to the medical staff at all the Glasgow Hospitals for all the great work that they do, which was so visibly evident in George Square, God Bless them.

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{Ed001's Note - thank you Tom merry Christmas to you and everyone on here.}

Jeezus a long ago remembered wind up name :-)

Hope we will be home in spfl courtesy of a lucky playoff place and give you lot a bit of competition. well more than a bit winning league again after all we been through will be an incredible achievment, at least we no longer have ally and durrant so we might have a football team again by next year. george

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Thanks very much! Merry Christmas & a happy new year when it comes to each & every bear!

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24 Dec 2014 13:36:16
The sfa have refused ashley permission to increase his shares to 29% source Scottish news, what does he do now? Step aside & let king invest as this will protect his sports direct deal and ensure his loans are repaid?
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24 Dec 2014 14:00:55
or maybe just keep propping us up with loans or maybe admin 2 who knows time will tell

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24 Dec 2014 14:10:46
Or the way things are going the club will go ahead and just accept what ever punishment the sfa hand out now that wouldn't surprise me.
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Just when you didn't think it possible, things look like they're going to get uglier.

This could all have been avoided if the Blue Knights were awarded the rights by Duff & Phelps years ago. That's the answer I'd like more than anything. So many people seem to want our club so badly and yet sold for a paltry 5.5 million quid. Doesn't add up.

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All he will do is have someone else buy shares or have someone given

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Well said kfraser. Better yet, anyone remember the Canadian guy who wanted in at the very start? What was his name? Bill Miller? A guy chased off by abuse from fans after a feeding frenzy to the media, fed no doubt but Green. Appears to me that it's funny how Whyte's bid was picked, how his choice of administrators were picked, how Green got in, how Easdales got in, how Ashley got in. And so it continues. I say, well done SFA for denying Ashley more shares. I don't trust Dave King an inch, don't get me wrong, but there must be someone out there who has clubs best interests at heart and is honest!

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Mo. 89there is one reason it's called fraud.

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Kfraser the reson people were afraid to try buying our club was the threat of the big tax case hanging over us, and the people concerned took that fecking lon g to find in our favour, by that time it was to late, the sfa had allowed a chancer (white)to get his feet under the table, but like the rest of them his day is coming.

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24 Dec 2014 08:23:51
So, we now have proof that David Somers believed on October 10th that Dave Kings offer was better for the club, but that he and the Easdales would lose their positions at the club. So he pushed through a 3m package instead of a 16m package by Dave king. (Check article in Daily Record).

Question? Are officers of public listed companies not supposed to be bound to act in the best interest of said company at all times?

If anyone out there is in doubt that RFC is being run by anything or anyone other than self interested, duplicitous lowlife - you are deluded.

Enough is enough. This cannot be swept under the floor as I believe there may be grounds for legal action and it seems that The Sons of Struth are forging ahead. It's time to unite now guys, this is the final straw

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OP You did not read the full article he said also that King did not give proof that he had the money nor would he provide names of his consortium, he also points out that there is nothing stopping him from buying shares and getting his say through this route but up until now he has no shares and has not put a penny into the club. The whole thing is a mess with shysters playing with our club, I would be happy with king in charge but at this moment he is doing more harm than good.

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Jyf,

The email clearly states that the majority of the board preferred Kings proposal! And that Kings arrival would be the end for the 3 musketeers, hence Somers threatening tone to the lawyers. What part of 16m versus 3m do you not understand?

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24 Dec 2014 10:50:12
how can king be doing harm he ain't doing nothing the fans have there on voice make there own choices and they have chosen not to believe a word this board say and not give them a penny more was it king that sent that email and pleaded for his job to be saved no it was that buffoon somers the other board members 3 to 2 were going to vote in favour of david kings offer untill they where removed this is not in the best interest of rangers football club this is self interest for the easdales and somers

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N3 - wasn't it King who first raised the idea of the Season Ticket boycott at the start of the season?

King wants to crash the club and pick it up for next to nothing after liquidation.

At least the present board have had the balls to actually put their own money where their mouth is, unlike DK.

Without liquidation, DK's only way of taking over is to buy them out and we know he's not going to do that.

Would you spend £30,000,000 to buy a
Money-eating black hole?

DK isn't that bleeding stupid.

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Craigs8688,

Thanks mate for your agreement, for a moment there I thought I was losing my mind. It is clear that the decision to accept Ashley's money was NOT in the best interests of Rangers and as such, the officers of the Club are culpable and answerable to shareholders and AIM.

Here is hoping the Lawyers acting on behalf of SOS pursue this and force those slippery characters who sat in their tent on the pitch the other day to explain why 3m was better than 16m knowing they had no cash to trade to the end of the season!. STINKS!

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@2 ayr bear don't talk to me as if i'm some kind of person, of course I understand that 16m is more than 3m but King did not prove that he has the funds ready to invest, I also know that is was a stitch up by ashley, these people are playing chess with our club. I want to see somers given his jotters, not necessarily the easdales, and we need someone to take charge and outline their plans for the future be it king or ashley.
P. S. If you can't see that the boycott is harming our club then more fool you.

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24 Dec 2014 12:31:09
Ashley will know for himself what somers is & and if and when he gets full control or king does get in you can bet your mortgage that somers will be gone. total agreement jyf that boycotts do more harm than good as to date they have achieved nothing other than deprive the team of much needed support
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24 Dec 2014 13:56:59
nobother Ayr Bear yeh it was kings plan at start and not much people did boycott now look at the figures attending folk have made there own mind up ad who sayed david king could not prove that he had the funds somers and we all no he talks rubbish if king couldn't prove why would rest of board want to go threw with it as for boycotts think we have well and truly supported the club in previous years something has to be done the fans are sick of being ripped off if the money was invested in rangers things would be different

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24 Dec 2014 14:50:59
Again if the money that does come in needs topped up by loans what money is being "ripped off" there is none, paying themselves to much yes but "ripping us off "no, previous boards yes as there was money there.
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Chaps, no one disagrees with the fact that boycotts do not do good. I am going to post a link below of an article written by Roddy Forsyth in today's Telegraph where the papers lawyers state "The Daily Telegraph has been provided with proof of the emails providence" the article also tells how Ashley "helped bring about another financial crisis at Ibrox by refusing to take part in Rangers equity issue in August then increasing his holding through a private share purchase which meant that his money would not go into the club"

Have you any idea what this guy has engineered behind your backs? He has also given up the naming rights of Ibrox in exchange for significant commercial and advertising rights within the stadium.

Let's not forget, this guy has " loaned" RFC the 3m, not given it. He has got control of the club for NoTHInG!

Sports Direct have paid RFC a total of just over 2'000 pounds in their commercial deal (That is in the published accounts)

Earlier someone said Dave King wanted the club for a song and was waiting for administration to happen again. Well, now we know that Ashley actually engineered a crisis at the Club by buying private shares with money that wouldn't go to the club - then LOANED them cash when he had them over a barrel.

And you wonder why you never hear or see him or hear his plans for the club?!

WAKE UP GUYS!. read and make up your own mind.

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24 Dec 2014 19:35:08
rf so what about these stupid contract that ashley has he is taking money out the club then loaning us our own money back that is some cheek and he has tain more than 3 million out the club that with there over inflated wages plus other contract they have tied up between there selves Ashley doesn't do things for nothing

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Craig8688 ime in agreement with you mate, but I also think the boycotts have been worth having, after all had there been no boycotts everything in there garden would be looking rosy, the board would have said all is well, but at the same time robbing us blind, and it would have been blind cause we would not know of problems as we the support would have been paying for the paint to cover the cracks.

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25 Dec 2014 01:50:47
thanks George123 thought I was only one thinking along these lines glad some one else can see what happening at our club we would not have had a clue if boycotts never happened

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Craig8688. I seen the problem as soon as charleboy got his big Yorkshire hands in the door, thus I never renewed book nor have I been to a game, home or way, and I won't be going to up and coming semi final, I will renew once we get all these greedy winners out the door.

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