Rangers Banter Archive December 24 2016

 

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24 Dec 2016 22:13:05
I don't care what anyone says, Danny Wilson is vital to our style of play. When Hill plays there is little to no threat on the long ball, he's much slower and imo is a worse defender overall.

Is it a coincidence that we seem to play our best football when he is in the team? The centre back playing out is vital to our play, if they can't move the ball quick enough, can't make a turn or can't get our midfield on the front foot performances like that are turned in.

Danny Wilson shouldn't have been dropped unless there were niggles and imo should be one of the first names on the team sheet. Did anyone see the 3-4 quality balls he played in behind against hearts? He isn't a forward player but he adds a completely different dimension to the team since Haliday can't play long balls when receiving it. For me Wilson has been one of the unsung hero's this season, injured when we were playing poor and if I'd like to see his stats when playing.



24 Dec 2016 22:33:59
I can't really agree. Far too many of Wilsons long passes from defense fail to find anyone. I felt Hill was outstanding today, he intercepted loads of through balls, won everything in the air and was constantly talking to and organising his team mates (like an actual captain) .

A defender should defend first and anything else on top of that is a bonus.



24 Dec 2016 23:35:06
I like danny wilson but totally disagree that he's a better defender than clint hill. Quite simply he's not mate! Clint hill is a far better defender than danny wilson at this moment in time! Don't know what you're watching when you say clint hill is much slower than danny wilson! Both aren't the fastest centre halfs but remember hill is 38 now whereas danny wilson is 14 years his junior. Danny wilson ain't fast mate! Forget the long diagonal balls being passed by wilson for a moment mate, because first and foremost a centre half has to defend FIRST, and clint hill is a better defender than danny wilson at the moment, simples mate!



24 Dec 2016 23:38:16
I'm not saying Hill was bad or anything, I'm just saying I feel that our play is dependant on his play, and I think you're underestimating his success rate and ability on the ball. He is the best centre back on the ball, and for me a future Scotland captain if he can keep developing. Who is better on the ball at Cb in the SPFL? Where has Wilson played this season where he has looked defensively weak? He's suffered from injury all season I just think his play goes completely under looked and under appreciated at times.



25 Dec 2016 00:42:06
And forget the long balls? It causes the other team to have to sit deeper and because Wilson can find a pass into midfield it gets us forward much quicker. You're argument is simply "he's simply not a better defender" "don't know what you are watching when you say he is much slower" (he is clearly a yard slower than the rest of the TEAM) You make an argument about a talented player developing and say "we must play the 38 year old because he has been doing it for 14 years longer". You clearly have no idea how our style of play works, you're lack of knowledge on the subject is glaring since you don't actually make any arguments or points you just use a bunch of incoherent statements without giving context or basis on why you think that. If that's the breadth of what you have to say you have little to offer.



25 Dec 2016 05:32:34
I do agree to the extent he is a better ball player and he can find a front man I see what your getting at, but how bad does that reflect on our midfield? We are relying on DW to play killer passes lol We must address the sitting midfield position pronto fair enough barton and rossiter haven't worked out but halliday isn't the man for the job.



25 Dec 2016 09:27:01
I agree with Danny Wilson being our best ball-playing centre half.
He offers a different dimension from Hill/ Senderos.

I think he still has a bit to go defensively - aerially he gets beaten far too often and can be lackadaisical.

Hill will start the Old firm alongside Kiernan and Wilson will play LB if Lee Wallace is unavailable.



25 dec 2016 09:18:25
sorry mate it comes back to the same thing for me! "clint hill is a better defender than danny wilson"! a centre half must be able to defend first and foremost! clint hill is a better reader of the game than wilson, better in the air than wilson, better positional sense than wilson, better organiser than wilson! not much more to say really. that covers it for me, says it all!



25 Dec 2016 11:27:41
Jorge The Hammer, i honestly think that either lee hodson or andy halliday will play left back if wallace doesn't make the old firm game mate! Probably hodson with tav going back to right back!



25 Dec 2016 11:41:45
Can Hill and Wilson not play at the back together? Although Kiernan has improved a little he remains weakest link at the back. For me back four of: hodson, Hill, Wilson and Wallace.



25 Dec 2016 16:02:44
Clint hill is best defender at ibrox imo and I would have no hesitation in giving him another years contract. Now I've got a nice bottle of red in front of me so I'll wish everyone who's cared enough about our club to post on here a merry Xmas.



25 Dec 2016 16:16:52
Well fod had to pull off 2 fantastic saves due to Clint Hill not even being able to get goals side.



25 Dec 2016 20:37:13
Cee is the only person using his brain. That is exactly why I made the post. In what way is he a better defender than DW? He wins more headers? look at the stats you'll be surprised.



25 Dec 2016 21:05:18
I can look through half of your profiles and find posts such as "over the hill" you flip flop because you don't actually understand what your talking about.



26 Dec 2016 02:08:25
Merry Christmas to all. JorgeTheHammer, I agree that Wilson is probably your best centre half, but I should point out, there is no 'old firm' any more. Although I must confess, I am looking forward to the derby next week, only because it does bring back new year memories from the past. I hope everyone stays safe.



26 Dec 2016 15:27:31
The back four for the OF match will be Tavernier, Hill, Kiernan and Hodson. I'd play Halliday, Holt, Windass in the mid with Waggy, Miller and McKay up top. I think Garner would be a certain to get sent off and am not really that convinced by him anyway. Garner, Dodoo and Forrester to make an impact off the bench.



26 Dec 2016 15:24:04
Think Hill is solid and has more experience than Wilson but Wilson is our youngest centre back with by far the biggest potential, He grew up a Rangers fan, he captained our youth sides, came in with big Dave weir and was sold for a rising fee of a total around 3-5 million, why is Andy Haliday a guy for me who isn't Rangers quality more of a fan favourite than this guy?

Fans are fickle I can't remember any time this season Wilson has played and we have looked weak going forward and at the back but every time it's any other player there with RK we don't get on the front foot the same so hill has more defending to do in general.

I reiterate is Hill really a better CB than Wilson defensively? I think Wilson wins balls in the air as often, can pull out more last ditch challenges because he's faster (hes still a yard faster than hill I don't care what you say so we always play deeper with hill so it's harder to get out at the back) and is easily the best ball player in that position that Scotland has had in a very long time, if not ever.



26 Dec 2016 21:58:41
Xmas or April fool?



24 Dec 2016 21:50:24
Hi bhampot
All the best and second that what you say hopefully those who disagree grow up soon.



24 Dec 2016 20:03:02
Hi boy wonder
All the best have a nice Xmas and new year hopefully we will be better competition next season.



24 Dec 2016 18:02:27
Merry Xmas Lads, hope you have a great day.



24 Dec 2016 18:09:47
Same to yourself bhoywonder. Happy Xmas to everybody.



24 Dec 2016 18:18:47
Merry Christmas to all!



24 Dec 2016 18:29:35
Hope everyone has a good one lads, hope Santa is good to one and all. on another note, what trumpet disagreed with bhoywonders xmas message? don't half get some numptys!



24 Dec 2016 18:55:18
Agree Forfarger. Merry Christmas and best wishes to everyone.



24 Dec 2016 19:30:59
Have a great one everybody. Hope Santa's good to you!



24 Dec 2016 19:32:19
Happy Christmas all. Hope it's a good one.

Great banter from all and fair play to Bhoywonder who is one of the more decent ones.



24 Dec 2016 20:20:23
Seasons greetings to all fans of all clubs. Christmas is all about family, be good to them, they are the most important people in your lives. We all have a laugh on here, its all good fun. I wouldn't wish ill on anyone on here. Be good, stay safe and enjoy your Christmas lads.



24 Dec 2016 20:50:07
Cheers guys all the best to you and your loved ones.



24 Dec 2016 21:18:29
A very happy and peaceful Christmas to all bluenoses on this site. All the very best to you too Bhoywonder and Bhampot-glad to see you putting aside the animosity for a wee while, not sure some your buddies who post on here will be so magnanimous!



24 Dec 2016 21:59:03
Enjoy ladsπŸ‘.



24 Dec 2016 22:50:42
Merry Christmas everybody. Only here for the banter guys!



24 Dec 2016 23:14:29
A very merry Christmas to all and their kin on these pages and everywhere in general! We all share different football opinions, on here from time to time, but that's the beautiful game for you (football)! So again peace and goodwill to all!



25 Dec 2016 01:49:45
Merry xmas everyone. :)



24 Dec 2016 16:11:21
We were poor today, no doubt. We couldn't cope with Inverness physically, and when moving the ball we were sluggish and slack. What really concerns me, however, is that in every game we seem to die in the last 15 minutes. We just don't look fit enough or energetic enough to last the full 90 and that's when I fear the mhankies will run over us. It's a real worry and at this stage of the season we should be close to peak fitness.



24 Dec 2016 19:35:56
Have we not won 3 games this season after 90 mins?



24 Dec 2016 22:07:53
He's chose his facts to push his own point of view. It's a poor argument.



24 Dec 2016 22:07:03
Wasn't the best game, some daft mistakes brought on by ourselves again. A few weeks ago we would have dropped points in this game, probably the only positive to take from game was the fact we won it. Big lift needed for midweek. C'mon let's keep the momentum going!



24 Dec 2016 22:36:18
We certainly were nowhere near our best today but we got the 3 points in a mediocre performance, something we wouldn't have been able to do a good few weeks back! Sometimes you have to win this way and thankfully we did. A special mention to clint hill today. Said at the game today with still around half an hour to play, that he was man of the match! Our defence looks a lot more solid when hill is playing in it! Great experience, which sticks out like a sore thumb, terrific reader of the game, puts fires out before they start, tremendous in the air, terrific communicator and organiser, at 38 years old reminds me very much of big davie weir when he signed for us at 37 years old! I think clint hill deserves another 1 year contract as he's an old school centre half! Quite simply big clint hill is a role model and terrific professional, as you can see with how well rob kiernan plays beside the very calm, cool clint hill! Imo, hill has to start next week against celtic, and i do think he will, with kiernan beside him!



24 Dec 2016 15:33:19
I know people love him because he is a Rangers man but Andy Halliday just is not good enough to be playing centre midfield for us. The system we have requires two very good centre midfielders alongside a good anchorman. Halliday isn't an anchorman and he isn't the dynamic midfielder we need. I like the lad but we need better.



24 Dec 2016 16:20:03
Agree haliday not good enough for cm. Mw said yday he's close to 2 signings I hope 1 of them is a cm.



24 Dec 2016 22:08:32
Agree with this 100% how we have survived with our style of play over the last 18 months in CDM is beyond me. Anyone who says he would be in the team is Barton was still there is a joke.



24 Dec 2016 23:34:39
agree with spoc we need far better quality in the middle of the park if we are going to be successful

i heard warbs is after an attacking mid but for me we need a central midfielder to put his foot on the ball and control the game - sincerely hope it can be rossiter

merry xmas to all.



25 Dec 2016 09:24:55
Said on here many times, andy halliday gets an easy ride on here and at ibrox, because of who he is! I for one don't agree with them because like a good few others, he's also made a few mistakes this season!



24 Dec 2016 15:27:43
That was painful to watch but three points is three points so al take it but it was a bit turgid. windass was trying too hard looked like he was wearing rigger boots with his passing, it's a win though boys πŸ‘πŸ»πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§.



24 Dec 2016 14:26:54
3 points but that was shocking performance. I hope garner isn't another sebo. All effort but little quality.



24 Dec 2016 14:39:19
Terrible performance with only Fod getting pass marks. 3 points though, so move on and hopefully improve and take another 3 next week.



24 Dec 2016 14:49:36
Did not see the game today, apart from the score did we have any positives? Interested to hear how Windass, Hill and Garner played. Surprised that Hill got the nod ahead of Wilson. Understand Wallace has injured and may be doubtful for Celtic game.



24 Dec 2016 15:03:15
Normal service resumed after a couple of decent performances lately.

Back to being clueless against a very poor team.



24 Dec 2016 15:06:41
That was hard work to watch and I take my hat off to the fans who traveled for that showing. Bring in Hill for the high balls but don't drop Wilson for him and I fail to see what Warburton sees in Forrester. I reckon the Celtic fans can't wait for Saturday and I just can't see our midfield coping. Foderingham was outstanding.



24 Dec 2016 15:08:15
Only big wes would of got pass marks. Made 4 or 5 good saves. We give the ball away so many times. He took mckay and waghorn off early in 2nd half when both were having a better game than garner. But 3 points anyway. If we play like that next Saturday we will get absolutely hammered.



24 Dec 2016 15:15:17
Playing 4,3,3 is murder to watch, need to change it before next week, but he won't teams play 5 in the middle and over run us. halliday is shocking .



24 Dec 2016 15:38:15
Lost count of times that I've stated halliday and holt are just not good enough, the central area really worries me! Any successful team has two good central players and we've none! No ball winner and no ball player!



24 Dec 2016 16:08:31
Poor today but we got the 3 points and I'll settle for that. I remember how I felt after pittodrie when we played well and left with nothing but I do agree play like today against st johnstone and it will be long nite.



24 Dec 2016 17:30:58
I'm impressed the way Warburton fought off being sacked, but he is a limited arrogant manager who is fortunate that more people don't see right through him. He talks a good game, but so do all con men.



24 Dec 2016 17:36:22
Do we really play 4-3-3?

McKay lays closer to our goal line than Holt
Miller is as often in our half than not
Halliday plays where?

Also does anyone think McKay lacks heart?



24 Dec 2016 19:17:33
When we play against teams that 'rough us up'. McKay goes missing.



25 Dec 2016 10:30:10
Incidentally hooly78 and fd, do none of you guys think clint hill was well above pass marks today? He was motm in my eyes and he got it at ibrox also. Don't know what you were watching guys if you don't think clint hill had a well above average game against inverness caley thistle yesterday!



24 Dec 2016
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24 Dec 2016 10:07:06
Two games to play before we play the manky mob again. It is Ibrox this time though and we are much better than earlier in the season. Only 1 defeat in 11 SPL games is good form. I'd love to see Garner and Waghorn together and causing havoc in their defence. First, let's take care of ICT and St Johnstone for 6 more points.



24 Dec 2016 10:12:02
Here here mate.



24 Dec 2016 10:26:03
@doiger - another couple of wins to keep the momentum going and anything from the Celtic game is a bonus.
Can I just take this opportunity to wish everyone Merry Christmas.



24 Dec 2016 10:26:05
Jeezo, will you lot never learn. I've heard all this before the last 2 games and we hammered you without getting out of 1st gear. The only thing stopping a 3rd doing will be storm Barbara taking down the roof beforehand and the game getting called off. Otherwise storm Moussa is going to run amok again. Enjoy your Xmas lads as your New Year is going to be miserable HH.



24 Dec 2016 10:49:12
Aye Storm Moussa who has managed to keep a clean sheet for about 10 games. Must have added a few million on to his asking price in Jan.

Celtic are miles ahead anyway there is no doubt but we have made a couple of improvements and IF me manage to win the next 2 games and keep abit of momentum we might give yous abit more of a competitive game. Not like Celtic have been setting the SPL alight the last few games.

Like someone said earlier, anything v Celtic this season is a bonus.



24 Dec 2016 11:38:20
Storm moussa who has less goals than a midfielder at hamilton, Ali Crawford must be worth 80 million if you use Celtics calculator.



24 Dec 2016 13:29:37
CEE you are as bad as Doiger with your made up facts.
Crawford has scored 9 in all and Dembele has scored 15 in all.



24 Dec 2016 14:44:10
In all hahaha haha! We are talking about the league here so away you go stupid boy. Even liam Boyce at Ross County has more than the 40 million boy.



24 Dec 2016 15:12:19
This is the same Celtic that should have got stuffed by Partick we are talking about?



24 Dec 2016 15:16:25
stupid boy CEE yes Crawford has seven (7) Dembele eight (8)
and our very own Garner has three (3)

how many of our strikers are In the top ten for the year so far.



24 Dec 2016 15:17:29
If we are indeed talking about the league Cee then you guys don't have a single player in the top goal scorers so I would simmer down a bit!



24 Dec 2016 15:28:48
Liam Boyce 40 million man!



24 Dec 2016 16:22:06
Haha daft cee strikes again! Highlighting the fact Crawford has scored 7 in the league, more than waghorn and garner put together! U couldn't make it up! Comedy gold! And joscro where i was sitting in paradise partick had a couple of chances but they should have stuffed us, seriously! There goalie was man of the match hahaha! Bloody some laugh on here! We'll see on here this time next week if there is as much bravado, I've a sneaky feeling there won't be once the champions have put u in your place. again! Lol.



24 Dec 2016 16:26:31
Well going by the highlights, maybe you were at the wrong match they should have had 3 in the net, seriously.



24 Dec 2016 16:27:53
Aye comedy go, d right enough.



24 Dec 2016 16:28:29
Man of the match with pass backs apparently.



24 Dec 2016 16:33:26
Ah but the game wasn't at Paradise, that's why you were at the wrong game.



24 Dec 2016 16:44:02
Hahaha the game wasn't at paradise! I think u better go back and watch the highlights again pal! We played Partick 4 days ago at home! Like I said comedy gold!



24 Dec 2016 17:32:23
Obviously humour is lost on you, your ground is Parkhead, not Paradise.



24 Dec 2016 17:25:45
Cee he might not be knocking the goals in like garner is, but he is young. Enjoy Christmas, but you will have a miserable new year πŸ˜œπŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚.



24 Dec 2016 18:06:09
Took u a while to come back with that one joscro, u away checking that we in fact did play in paradise against Partick! Haha! Best bit a humour ave heard all weekend! πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚.



24 Dec 2016 21:36:33
Not as long as it took you, knew it was at Parkhead, no stretch of the imagination is it Paradise.



24 Dec 2016 02:46:50
When it come to streaming from VIP league blah blah it's either totally gash or Richard keys sky in its prime sort o coverage. no inbetween! 😜.



24 Dec 2016 10:09:09
True mate haha. Got a reliable stream on sports devil on kodi. frontrowsports I think it's called.
Give it a bash wth a beer before the family comes around. Oh and have a great Christmas fellow bears enjoy yourselves!



24 Dec 2016 10:33:28
I watch it on hola tv. It's a browser you download like chrome/ Explorer etc. However it's basically an onion browser which fakes your ip address this way you can watch all untelevised games on rangers tv. You do have to pay the 5.99 per game but that money goes to rangers so all good also just stick the hdmi from laptop to tv and it's like watching it on sky.



24 Dec 2016 10:50:01
I use a kodi addon, flawless IPTV, I pay Β£7 per month but I get all the sport u could ever watch and it's really reliable without buffering! All Gers games are on it.



24 Dec 2016 11:38:39
Use kodi add on follow follow for all rangers games.



24 Dec 2016 15:41:02
Marty c 1988 : Jeez when will us guys learn about what exactly? As I have already stated you haven't been great recently, Partick should have turned you over, we are playing better and we're at home, so we're never supposed to have some confidence when playing your team? Is this another new rule for us since our demise and return?



24 Dec 2016 17:28:57
Follow follow was showing Bass fishing today instead of the game. In fact the fishing was actually better than the game.



 
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