Rangers Banter Archive February 24 2013

24 Feb 2013 22:21:19
Cancelled my espn&tv package today. Sick of listening to absolute personic commentators like craig burley and listening to the p*sh of charlie nicholas on sky.

No what you mean is you can't stand anything to do with the mighty CELTIC?
Although charlie does talk some mince!

Admit it you cancelled it because ESPN reported us to the police, some rangers fans just can't see its some of our fellow fans that have the problem.

Nah I turned the tv off following burleys i'm a dutchman if that's a penalty comment.

I used to hate CN but over the years watching Gillette soccer special I quite like him he's very biased talking about Celtic but hey ho no reason to hate the man enjoy watching Jeff & the lads it's Paul Merson & Alan Hanson I can't stick!

To op the only disgusting thing u heard was the commentary, really. You never heard the refs whistle for the softest penalty so this season

Charlie and hartson are the most stupid football men I have ever listened to no brains in either of them

24 Feb 2013 17:20:36
the simple fact remains singing these songs is wrong. morally wrong. its also bad for this club. we need to keep our noses clean not get into more trouble. I would agree with one thing tho. the media definately highlight it more with rangers than any other club

Well would rather the media than focus banging down your door, 50 cases so far been took to court and not one conviction.

The ideal world would be these songs aren't song in Scotland from Celtic to rangers from Aberdeen to the borders. I wish it would stop but there's a old saying I got told in school years ago, what will stop first? Sectarianism or racism? Answer. Properly none of the above

It's sad but true

Lenny

let's end this racism now. Cb

You have the real fans who are sick of the knuckle draggers&it seems the youth of today, are hellbent at these games to vent there venom& hatred& yet in here you will see disagree mostly next too a valid point. shocking& what's the mcoist mantra every time a microphone is in his face, I won't tell no lies?its getting repetitive. sm

Wasn't the media yesterday, it was the fans and not a minority either, it sounded like the whole rangers end was at it.

Lenny is there a difference between racism and sectarianism, same small minded persons. Cb

@5 spot on mate!

Aye but clearly the celtic fans. as well as other clubs sing these songs too. I don't here the broadcaster saying live on air they are reporting it about them. its a diferent point but valid

Flower of scotland is racist against the english so that should be banned too

24 Feb 2013 15:06:56
Lets take the bull by the horns and finish this secterian rubbish for ever. In recent years we have had a number of catholics play for us and some of them have been heroes. The one thing they have never done is bless their self when coming onto the pitch or scoring a goal. The catholics that currently play for us should be encouraged to make the sign of the cross when they enter the pitch or score. Then these persons that can't accept it will stay away from the games

What a very clever and thoughtful post. Well done.

Or target some young Irish players from the league of ireland

24 Feb 2013 16:02:14
OP the management told all the Roman Catholic players NOT to cross themselves on the pitch.
So a lead must be made from them to say it is OK to cross yourself if that is what you believe in.

Since the formation of the area known as BF1 in the corner at Ibrox I have noticed an increase in the chants and songs that are just not on, coming from that area. Most of them do not watch the game too busy with silly dancing and obscene chants. Rangers allowed this area to develop, well Rangers should break it up as soon as possible. You can clearing see the people at the front who are in charge. Photograph them and weed them out now.

A splendid post. well done. you here tales, and they may be just that, of players "ordered" not to bless themselves when scoring for Rangers, Sandazza the latest (though granted he needs to score first!) Apparently Andrei Kanchelskis was told not to. and he isn't Catholic but Russian Orthodox! The sooner these people are driven out the better and it's disturbing the people who disagree to such posts. thought of course they don't say why or leave their name the cowards!

this attitude in club and supporters has been there from it's beginning. It is hard to throw off in a few years----passed from father to son (now daughters too)Don't know what it'll take to get rid of it but it must. Only being reported now as heard so much yesterday on t. v, radio. Heard before but no one said a thing about it. Please let's get rid of this.

Well said to the OP, Celtic have the same narrow minded persons in the Green Brigade. They are only interested in their own agenda which seems to be to embarress the club at every turn. I honestly thought we (Celtic) had put all this IRA chanting stuff behind us but obviously not. The decent fans on both sides need to stand up and tell the trouble makers that is not on and we do not want to return to the dark days when it seemed this type o chanting was acceptable!

@5. ill bless myself if sandazza scores.

@3 They are told that so that supporters are not upset. It lies within the support to get rid of all this sectarian rubbish. No use saying others are at it too------look to ourselves first.

There's something gie queer wrong at A football club when orthodox and catholic players are not allowed to bless themselves for fear of upsetting sectarian bigot fans.
Every single champions league game I've ever seen had players blessing themselves. Anyone who takes offence at that is a sectarian bigot. Messi and Ronaldo, Oscar and Neymar all bless themselves.

Have a look on youtube when Arthur boruc blessed himsel, the reaction is so horrendous. Why would that upset any right minded person?

Darcheville blessed himself before comin on did he not bless himself after scoring against sporting Lisbon

OP great post and exactly right, weed the people out who this offends and you are starting to get there! Best thing would be to alienate yourselves from the organization that is very happy to promote the bigotry! Because that is where these low lifes generally emerge from!

@11 mate we are not dealing with normal minded people here though are we! If anybody get offended by this they shouldn't be anywhere near a football ground let alone out in public! I am sure we will see these ilk when marching season comes around once more!

Op = you totally contradict yourself, you want to take religon out of the game but you want all catholics to cross themselves as they run onto the pitch at ibrox

JG

24 Feb 2013 14:21:28
Watching the celtic game and heard a ira chant 4 times now, let's see if they bring it up about them

If true, that's unacceptable

Yip, I wonder if they will be on here as quickly to condemn their own fans as they were yesterday to condemn ours. Somehow I doubt it. Double standards from the Timmy's as per.

You must be hearing things

There we are looking to blame others I watched whole game on Sky heard no racist or bigoted chants. What game were you watching?

While I think we shouldn't try and deflect away from our own fans inappropriate singing. But I totaly agree only when every club whos fans sing inappropriate songs and the clubs are punished, then scottish football can move forward

If anybody failed to hear that today sort yourself out with a hearing aid. Typical Celtic responses already, denial denial denial. It wasn't us its just those bad bad Rangers supporters who do it.

@OP. wishful thinking on your part. There was no such singing or chanting. Nice try though.

@6: where are the Celtic responses - they could be from Rangers fans or fans of other teams. You seem to think that finding fault with others, makes what happened yesterday less unacceptable. Did you watch the game today with the sound turned up high, listening intently for any such songs?

Bear here - Didn't hear that today myself.

Heard plenty of that offensiveness before even back to the time when it was so bad in the 70s that Jock Stein even had to drag the offending chanters out and have them arrested. And while I'm at it why the song about that man continues with some Gers fans is beyond me.

@9: unfortunately there seems to be an eagerness to sing about aspects of humanity that are disgusting. What kind of sick mind decides to and then enjoys singing about child abuse at a football match?

No unsavoury singing at game today just home and sit pretty near gb none what so ever, not saying it doesn't happen but not today

24 Feb 2013 16:08:16
There was no singing, the place was empty

Watched the Celtic game, just to see if there was a reaction to yesterday. and didn't hear a single objectionable song. So you are a liar pure and simple.

Complete rubbish and bare faced lies celtic fans swap the ira chant to sammy that can sound the same on tv not saying it never happens but most times its not

@12: there was plenty of singing, just none of it offensive or bigoted.

I doudt the OP even has the slightest idea what he thinks he heard as ira related selective hearing to the point of delusional fiction methinks

There was no IRA chants at all at their game today, you would have heard it crystal clear in that wee crowd. I think the OP has been sitting on the cheap cider hoping to hear it and failed miserably. Maybe man u should have got into trouble for their oh ah Cantona chant...

Completely untrue. how did you think youd get away with that? I watched the entire game. there was singing throughout, which could be heard clearly and nothing was offensive. if there had been there would have been a huge and immediate reaction. you are a diddy.

@9. I was there that day at stirling albion and saw jock go in the crowd. he didn't get anybody arrested but told the offending fans to get to hell and never come back. he was roundly applauded. the people who besmirch his name are cowards who would never say it to his face. they understand nothing of football or life in general. I was sorry that ally didn't take the chance to follow in the great mans footsteps today, maybe next time. all of this has to stop. time for strong action.

Also while your on about Stein, he was helping our fans in a big way in '71 at the disaster some of our fans have no idea or shame.

Nice to see the rangers fans are keeping up with Scotland's premier club, it will give you something in common with your future grandkids

#19. My mistake but I remembered the incident being reported when I was a kid and will always respect Jock Stein for what he did.

And I woud like if Ally told fans to stop singing songs about child abuse just as Fergie told Man U fans to stop the Arsene Wenger song.

Anyway glad to see the vast majority of bears being vocal in criticising thos e who brought shame on our club yesterday.

24 Feb 2013 12:45:48
if ally is the self proclaimed speaker for the rangers supporters, at least try to be honest

24 Feb 2013 12:17:48
Well done Charles Green. By encouraging these mindless cave-dwellers to sing songs of hate (which he has, yes he has). He has now denied Rangers another revenue stream, as no broadcaster can afford to show this on live TV. Pure hatred towards another Religion and another Race of people. Ashamed today. Ashamed to go to work tomorrow and speak to my colleagues.

It's no Charles Green's fault, you person - it's these knuckle-draggers who sing the songs, not him telling them to. in fact, the club immediately condemned these so-called 'fans' during the match. In what way, shape or form did Green encourage sectarian songs/songs about pedophiles etc? Answer is: HE DIDN'T. pete

I seem to remember Charles Green applauding songs of hate against the organisers of the game since he arrived. And he has constantly promoted the "victim" AND "hatred" thing since he arrived. The man should go. He is bile. Dragging us back a century. Next he will be leading a parade of bowler hat wearers to Ibrox. This is not where I want to be.

OP# I'm sure your workmates know you are not that type mate. The sensible among us realise it's about football. nothing else.

To OP. ] The biggest problem is not Charles Green but the mindless people on both sides of the old firm and the clubs' difficulty in eradicating their actions. However, their would be no tv deal without Rangers or Celtic.
And I think to talk about being ashamed, you don't condone the actions so just state your stance, as you are not responsible for these actions.
billyb

Songs of hate as it is were here before charlie and will be here sadly after charlie

john

Oh my word, blame green for the songs? Seriously? I suppose he shot Kennedy too did he? Or did he cause the triple dip recession or even the atrocities in eastern Europe during ww2. You people really don't know when to stop. Your hatred and bile is not far off the disgusting chants that were heard by a bunch of persons who have absolutely no love or passion for football or rangers. Just the need to waste their own cash turning up at our games where they are not wanted.

OP here. Yes. I blame Green. He has cashed in on hate. No knowledge of history, but he knows how to milk knuckle-dragging pockets. And no sense of how this terrible divide has destroyed Scotland. The man is bile, and taking us back a century. We won't move forwards with this man.

24 Feb 2013 11:48:39
just sitting looking at posts regarding the offensive singing at yesterdays game. a lot condemning it, but some agreeing with it. even on here. there are a lot hitting the disagree button. indicating they think this singing is perfectly acceptable. I myself cannot understand what kind of diseased mentality, thinks that singing these kind of songs is acceptable in this day and age. but some people are beyond learning, or else they would have by now. people with guts are going to have to take a brave stand and report these people, leading to life bans, and prosecutions. that is the only way to get rid of these people. they will never learn, as some people were simply born bad. we need to make more friends as we climb the leagues, after what was done to us, not lose them. we need more families to come see us play, instead of these so called bigoted fans. we don't want you people so please do us all a favour, including yourselves, jog on

Trolls leading a sad life mate. 99. 9% of posters here have denounced it and are sick and tired of this nonsense.

Sectarism is just another form of racist behaviour. Sadly football seems to attract this type of fan, see Russia, eastern Europe, Israel recently!

What matters is how the majority react to it and how the club react to it. McCoists words were a disgrace, the club should give all it's officials a standard and very strong line to the effect that not only are the songs not acceptable, but that they find the sentiment behind them abhorrent.

Banning the songs AFTER media interest sadly gives the knuckle draggers the impression that the club doesn't mind itself and is just reacting to MSM.

Rangers need to be seen to be angry with these people, if the away fans can't behave then don't take any

PS, yes I am a celtic fan from a 'mixed' background, have nothing but disgust for IRA, UVF etc. think anyone that sings about them is a tw@t to say the least. Time to leave the 17thC behind. Rangers and Celtic can never be friends, no massive clubs in one small city and country but the current situation is embarrassing.

24 Feb 2013 11:15:48
Just a thought, let me say I love coisty, but there is nothing being brought to our game through his management?
with where we find ourselves would it not be the right time to bring in a dutch or other up and coming manager that can get players passing and playing good intelligent football as the time is now.
would like your thoughts bears.

Not sure Johan Cruyff fancies the 3rd division to be honest. McCoist is an up and coming manager who has actually done a pretty good job to bring so many kids into a very small first team squad and get results. That's what it's about: results - we don't have players with dazzling abilities any more and sometimes against these physical sides, it's easier to bypass the midfield that way. Maybe you should stick to Football Manager mate? Pete

@1: McCoist also did a great job last season when guiding a team out of Europe and into second place after having a big lead (before admin).

Pete# I don't think Ally can be classed as up and coming at all. A long spell under Walter Smith, domestically and internationally, seems to have done nothing tactically for him.

To reply 1 I don't want cryuff if u read my post i'm saying a young up and coming manager also i'm to old to play football manager.
if u think were playing good football for what were paying out then we will never be a top team again?

24 Feb 2013 08:52:34
we are on our way back to the top, why do some people insist on damaging our name by singing stupid infantile songs,? We know "they" do it but that's not our concern grow up boys, you do a wonderful job supporting the team everywhere but this is giving ammunition to some quarters who will say we are bigoted and hate filled, don't let the urge get to you and be strong we don't need it and it can only do us harm, Tommyblue

24 Feb 2013 07:58:48
The pitch was not AstroTurf. It is what you may call grass!

Errr, yes it was.