Rangers Banter Archive January 24 2012

24 Jan 2012 23:10:05
Andrew Elis should be a name we all should be worried about. What does a property developer want with rangers? To invest in the team, help make us a force again? He is rich, but not in the deep millions. Does he have a action plan to improve our club as a buisness? Or has it a lot to do with the Stadium that the club owns, the sale value of the players at the club and lets not forget the trainning comples that sits on 38 acres of land. This man is here to bleed this club dry, regardless of craig whytes intentions. If we win this tax case it might make matters a lot worse, rangers value will rocket after that, along with the price of the players, stadium and murray park. sounds good? Really good if you bought it for a £1 and you can sell the lot, a property investers dream, 38 acres and millions in the bank, new luxary houses at murray park and massive income in rent for ibrox being paid by the next muppets who buys rangers, sounds stupid?to a a buisness man it makes perfect sence. oh and if you lose the case you only have a small percent of the club so when its in adminastration, sell some players then liquidise your shares, tada money back.

Build houses were exactly,on a demolished ibrox?as coucilhas already put this story to bed,they not murray own the land!!!!!this storys up there with the murray super casino!!!

Coupla problems there:MIH own murray park so you would have to buy that,its on green belt so you would have to battle planning for years.forget "winning" the tax case the arguament is how much you owe not if you owe(whyte has accepted liability for the"wee"tax case)so i cant see that being the plan

24 Jan 2012 22:58:47
I consider myself to be an objective, pragmatic Rangers supporter. I read thee pages with great interest and although provoked to respond on many an occasion by some of the rather bizarre posts, I am now moved to write as I feel too many of our club's alleged supporters seem to be void of perspective and in denial of the harsh realities surrounding the club.

I believe in Craig Whyte. I still have faith he has a plan to safely guide the Club through arguably the darkest period in it's proud history. I believe CW is not a fool. He was the ONLY one who was willing to risk his wealth, reputation and possibly even his health in taking on the Club when faced with inheriting a situation which has taken the Club to the brink of extinction. Do not forget it was under Sir David Murray's stewardship and decisions carried out by and/or enforced by Directors none more so than Martin Bain who have taken this Club right to the edge. Murray, Bain and possibly other old-Board members knowingly played the odds and gambled the Club's future and exposed the club to a possible HMRC investigation which regrettably, ultimately transpired. These are the villains of this sorry saga....NOT Craig Whyte!

Some "fans" on here criticise CW for not backing McCoist in the transfer window. for God's sake....wake up and realise...and accept Rangers F.C. IS a business and must be run accordingly. CW has inherited a club with a potential tax debt which could end the club as we know it. Although he - and we - must hope for the best we must prepare for the worst! So if YOU knew you could potentially lose a tax case where yo owe HMRC millions...or at the very least, you are offered a compromise settlement which even as a percentage will be in the millions...why, WHY, would you continue to write blank cheques left, right and centre when your FIRST priority is to preserve the Club's long term future?

How many people on this site have been affected by the recession? During these last few tough years, have you been excessively spending money on extravagances or been sensible and ensured mortgages were paid...utility bills paid...etc, so that you could preserve your home, your foundation for when you eventually come out the other side!

It is common sense. And in Craig Whyte's defence, he is CORRECT to NOT underwrite any and every signing target McCoist wants.

Was it not the very words of that "wise" old man who governed our club from across the land that told fans the club ness to live within it's means? No one said boo then....so why now? Why blame Whte for the failings of Murray...Bain...Johnson ...and to some extent now McCoist?

My point in reminding "fans" of Johnson's words are that fans seem to have forgotten it was NOT Whyte's failing that McCoist could not overcome 2 significantly lower ranked clubs in both the Champions and Europa Leagues! It was not Whyte's failing a Rangers side could not overcome a Scottish First Division club in the league cup. The minimum loss of income to the club - under Ally McCoist's team management is £10 Million+....now that is a "FACT" as some on here are always so keen to say!

Once again, let's relate McCosit's performance to date to real life. If he worked for YOU, would you be satisfied with his performance? Would you feel the club is progressing under his management? Would you be concerned by not one, not two but by FOUR major failings during a 6 month period? Would you feel he could justify losing a 9-point advantage (sure it was 15 but Celtic had 2 games in hand so let's keep it real)? More so could you justify YOUR manager not only losing the 9-point advantage but then having it overturned by a further 4 points and losing your position as Market leader?

I couldn't...and unless McCoist thinks his past glories as a player can save him, then he is even more naive than I believe he already is as a manger. Quite simply his performance as manager..be that team selections, signing policy and results is just not good enough! He does know the demands and expectations of the club therefore he should realise he is running out of time NOT because of lack of support from Whyte but because of his own failings and shortcomings.

Whyte secured the futures of McGregor...Davis...and Whittaker (right or wrong) because McCoist wanted it. McCoist was backed but because it also made good business sense. Sure Whyte has made mistakes...in public...as he learns the ropes of not just owning a football club but being the custodian of such a club as Rangers. The appointment of Gordon Smith is - and will be proven - to be a mistake for a whole host of reasons. Ali Russell IS an asset but he's the wrong guy for the job he's being asked to do. Things will settle down in the Boardroom and improve as a consequence but for now, I want all fans to remember that Whte is NOT the problem....he may ultimately not be the saviour we all hope for, but he's the only guy stepping up to try and be that saviour!

He's inherited a mess which no one on here can truly comprehend. But remember he inherited it...he did not make it....so there ore only judge Whyte based on his legacy....NOT the legacy of others!

He has lied, end of!

Very well put together and delivered with passion.but dont you think your son will be embarrased mr whyte(snr) green jhedi

Mate thats the best post av read on here, the guys hoping for the best and preparing for the worst, im not 100% convinced yet but his hands are tied till the tax case is resolved, when thats dun things will bcome clear! get billy davies to, to much to soon for ally! ntbear

And if whyte turns out to be nothing more than an assett stripper then you and the rest of rfc"s fans have been led up the garden path,why so much faith in whyte ? did he not promise a warchest? or was he being economical with the truth or just playing with words because im sure you and the rest of the fans were waiting for him to splash his considerable "off the radar wealth" ,when the truth does come out ask yourself about how compliant the laptop loyals were in all of this they have done a great disservice to the majority of fans but then again the fans that are not asking hard questions of whyte are just as much to blame

No deal to be made with HMRC, they're after the lot. Plus get a life mate.

He has lied, end of!

Very well put together and delivered with passion.but dont you think your son will be embarrased mr whyte(snr) green jhedi

I understand some of the comments, hut with regards the European games our squad was not equipped to deal with the games, a failure of Mr Whyte and his team in the transfer window. I just feel he has told lies a number of times.

Nice long story he hasnt got no money tho all wee want is sum cash for wages take boyd back get jagger an bruins just wages thats all till at least till end of season whyte is poor he is a fake an u still defend him wen he keeps lying two us why can he no just keep his cheap mouth shut instead of all the lies

If Ally does walk or is pushed Gordon Smith wants Jim Jeffries to replace him

It never fails to astonish me that some people still believe in Whyte. You are correct in saying Sir DM is to blame for this situation, he is completely to blame. His shoddy dealings have left us in this mess.
However Whyte promised money for signings, he had not lived up to that promise, and you say Whyte was not to blame for us going out of Europe. Had he produced what he promised we may not have gone out. We had Bocanagra in a car overnight to play as we had nobody else. It was not a secret when the game was and he failed to attract anybody in good time. He has embarrased us time and time again with ridiculous bids, merely done to con the fans.
I am not convinced that Ally is the man to manage us but he has been given no chance to succeed. sir Alex would struggle to make a team out of what we have. Here is a true legend who is being hung out to dry, a legend who will be remembered long after Whyte and his cronies are long gone with full pockets.
This is a man who is never out of court, he is a liar, he was unfit to run a company for seven years, and this is the man we are building our hopes on.
And you still say he is the man that stood up that put his money in. He put £1 in, that is it. He borrowed the £18m and it is secured when he puts us into admin. so he has spent £1.
140 years of history, some good, some not, but an institution being run by a spiv, after the last spiv ruined us. Never should our club be owned by one person. The club should be ours, owned by the fans, who want the best for a club that they love, not by somebody only interested in a quick buck.
However I have to say that we the fans are partly to blame for this, we have sat back and watched our club being dragged through the mud. If this was happening across the city , as it did, they took the people to task, they went onto the streets and demanded better. They succeeded and got rid. We have an occasional boo when we lose a game. We need to let these con men know that this is unacceptable.

Are you craig shyte??

btw, i think most fans know exactly who is to blame and also just how bad a situation the club is in, the problem with shyte is the constant lies and embarrassing court appearances, faking bids for players, and bidding stupid amounts making the club look like mugs. i could go on, and probably will do at some point

Hi Green Jedi...thanks for your words but just to set th record straight I ain't a Whyte. To be clear, I am concerned but my decision in life us to get behind the guy who at least had a plan rather than the guy who only criticises the plan but can't coe up with a better alternative. I may end up being proven wrong by Whyte and whatever agenda he has but fo now, he has my support as based on how I would run the club if I were fortunate enough to be in such a position, I would be managing it very similarly. On the playing side he needs a strong manager ....McCoist has been found out. If Whyte has some balls and gets shot of McCoist to bring in a manager who can guide th club the way Walter did, that could be the making of Whyte.....SPM

It was my original post. To the response from the guy claiming the club should never be owned by one person, I totally AGREE....unfortunately when even SDM gave us an opportunity to invest in the club he ended up having to underwrite the shares issue to £50M.....a consortium is more likely / preferrable if the likes of Douglas Park, Jim McColl and Dave King can put the club first before personal gain...SPM

You are right we did not stump up when there was a share issue, I think we all thought we would never have a problem with DM. I think people now realise this could be the end, I think more would buy.

I do feel sorry for all the good loyal rangers supporters {no pun intended} who are watching their team slowly and painfully blink out of excistence but some level off blame must be directed at these fans why isnt anyone taking your man whyte to task,where is the supporters trust in all of this and all the media who were always quick to print a feel good story about rangers this has been running for 2 years yet only recently has it come into the main stream media why o why have you all been quietly watching the demise of your once proud club was it "it canny happen to us" or what can anyone explain why youze have been so compliant for so longand please dont insult anybody by claiming you just found out that has proved to be false

What wealth will craig whyte lose if rangers go into admin he gets back every penny he has spent.if we win (tax case)the club goes up in value and it looks good on a very heffty profit.no real gambil is it.

Incase u didn't know dave king is another proven tax evader dear me
Hoodbhoy

Chick I was under the impression that the BBC are banned from writting or speaking about Rangers/Whyte.

IMHO, there are 2 distinct problem areas - Finances & Footbal. Whyte is dealing with the financial mess that he knowingly inherited - time will tell if it succeeds. McCoist is responsible for the football. To say he wasn't given a chance is a joke. He started the season with basically the same team that won its 3rd Championship in a row. The team is capable of playing & most importantly winning, however McCoist is struggling to get them to do that ATM. Will a different manager succeed in doing that??

24 Jan 2012 22:25:48
ed, did zaluska not go from hearts to celtic on a pre contract done in january and went in the summer. this obviously is the same federation meaning this is not the ruling?

mark {Ed001's Note - I will have to check up and see if Scotland have opted out of it, only it is supposed to apply to all UEFA-affiliated top flights as it is a UEFA ruling. Though it can be done if an agreement is reached with the club as well, there is nothing to stop that being done 5 years in advance even.}

24 Jan 2012 21:50:39
Nothing to do with us...but watching league cup semi with Cardiff and palace. Why do commentators say 'away goals count double'? I mean if palace win 1-2 it's not like the score would be recorded as 1-4?!?

Och sheest mun, every one knows it's if they draw the away goals count double, now back to school!*ksd*

Its only if the game is a draw mate the goals count as two and ksd the guy obviously dosent know im sure there are things that he knows that u dont.

Its only if the game is a draw mate the goals count as two and ksd the guy obviously dosent know im sure there are things that he knows that u dont.

I bet you regret posting that lol!!!!!

24 Jan 2012 22:22:05
Tomorrow is Burns Night here is a very appropriate poem for your football club

Fareweel to a' our Scottish Fame
Fareweel our Ancient Glory
Fareweel to e'en our Scottish Name
Sae fam'd in Sang and Story

Schadenfreude and what goes around comes around
RIP Taxdodgers FC you will not be Missed
Hail Hail TIMALLOY

Careful what you wish for Tim, if Rangers go under the whole of Scottish Football is f***ed, including the Tic! Think about it!

Once again Tim fail fail, you come on here with your nonsense but at the end of the day, no Rangers would mean no Celtic as the future of the Scottish game as well. Blue4ever

You guys need to wake up! celtic dont need you,why would they.dont say telly deals cos if there was none we could stream our own and pocket the cash. grow up and ask whyte some questions,we were mismanaged n hounded the board out but "in whyte you trust" hows that working out for you? trialists walking out,keeping guys while you try and ship ppl out the door,tax bills heading your way,chucking leads in the league,all sorts of rumours from no euro licence to ally quits! face it guys you are a laughing stock

WE'll still win the league so getit round ya. With out the Gers there is NO REASON to watch Scottish Football. Celtic v ICT or the sheep is not entertaining football. Celtics run of luck will end shortly then we will see where you lot are.

24 Jan 2012 20:26:12
Don't know why English teams are still interested in Jelavic he proved he can't do it in European games. I mean where the help was he when we played Malmo and Maribor?

He scored a class volley remember

Aye coz jelavic is messi he isnt going to beat about 6 players and score a goal its not his type of game he needs service from the midfield which he is getting sinse naismith got injured

24 Jan 2012 19:22:33
if jelavic goes to west ham i wud ask to take john carew plus cash what u think?wud get a couple years of him hes big strong and would score goals.

Youd take anyone right now ya desperado! Reap what you sew you lot were happy to gloat when murray was splashing hmrcs cash and now its back to haunt you big style! I hope you go bust and are stripped of the titles you won fruadulently. P.s cant wait till it all comes out about this years europe licence or will you deny this as well?

Now thats a bitter bhoy.

Now thats a bitter bhoy.

24 Jan 2012 19:17:54
wheres this 2million craig whyte promised for this transfer window more lies what a joke this football club has become.

Up his you know what prob

24 Jan 2012 18:45:26
Got to be honest I hadn't even heard of zlatan muslimovic before he came for a trial. No one in the right mind would snub the richest league in the world no wonder he bolted at the thought of a Sunderland contract. It may take us time to get there but we'll be back. Nae dough but chasing 4 in a row.

Barry Barry

Yeah he bolted due to more money! Nothing to do with rankers not being able to afford his wages, or play in europe!

He bolted as he knows your club are going down the plughole!

Nae dough......everyone must go!

DazzaBhoy

Without us you will be next pal BB

Nae chance BB, were financially secure........and we payed our taxes!

Mind the gap!

DazzaBhoy

24 Jan 2012 18:21:47
In a funny sort of way I want to go into administration, do we really want Craig tight long term it is grimmer then being run by the bank.

24 Jan 2012 17:54:24
things just get worse wen a trailist leavs
whyte is tighter than poundworld mark my word he will run the club like this even if we win the tax case he should be protested agaisnt before it gets worse he aint got no cash wat happend two the 5million then 10 if ally wanted it an the promise at no players had two leave this guy needs two go fans need two stand up two him

Would not be at all surprised mate. he's a joke

He prob doesnt want to give mccoist the money he will be waiting on the next guy

You are too late for protests mate.should,ve happened long time ago,artybhoy.

Still people are deluded on here, Whst sort of comment is he doesn't trust mccoist he will give money to next manager? He doesn't have the money

Too true artybhoy,fo months they ave acted like the see no evil,speak no evil,hear no evil wee monkeys&been givin it in whyte we trust!the s**ts about too hit the fan& only now they want too revolt v mr whyte,bbc uncoverd him for what he is,yet denial!he will destroy what shambles moonbems murray has left 2 inherit,ohhh were are the days off the super casino&all the dross they were lulled into beleving.you reap what you sow,its karma,hmrc pulliing plug on portsmouth over 1.6million,so what lays in store for the once mighty gers?armagedon i think!!!!

Absolutely mate.lets be honest.every fan loves their team and doesnt like to speak ill of them.we didnt like when we had to protest all those years ago,but we realised it had to be done for the good of the club,or we would now be extinct.so although you can understand gers fans not wanting to,they needed to,but have left it too late now.

Protest should still be organised two get him out he is making us a laughing stock an i for one aint happy he just keeps lieying he is more intrested in the land an getting links with clubs two get more money cause he aint got any we dont want no casino or devolpment we want players

Protest should still be organised two get him out he is making us a laughing stock an i for one aint happy he just keeps lieying he is more intrested in the land an getting links with clubs two get more money cause he aint got any we dont want no casino or devolpment we want players

24 Jan 2012 17:54:04
Looking at these posts blaming Mr McCoist for getting in these trialists and then wanting him out when one injury prone striker leaves.
Please ask yourself two questions;
1)As a man with Rangers in her heart and soul who wants nothing but the best for our club, do you really think he wants to be scraping the bottom of the barrel to find these players?
2)With his legendary status at our club slowly deminishing each day, do you think he wants to make it worse by signing sub-standard players?
Answer is NO.
This so called savior(Whyte) has not backed him like he stated he would, I'm not for one second trying to justify our short comings as i also think we have been woefull this season and Mr McCoist may or may not be the man for the job as i have posted before,But to suggest he is trying to sabotage our club, and thats what you sound like, is sheer stupidity.
Now, I for one would love to get a bit of investment, but this is never going to happen anytime soon and the situation the club is currently in, well it will be a long time until we operate as most supporters deserve. Until then we will continue to scour for a rough diamond and may find one or two, but i think we will find a lot of duds along the way.
It is unbeliveable that a club like ours finds itself in this position and one man that the press never blame is SDM, If it was up to me the S would be stripped from him if our club is damaged beyond repair.
I was there for the good times in the 90's and loved watching genuine world class players, but if i had known or was made aware of the position it would leave us, then i would rather have fought it out with Celtic in a more competitve manner.
So, despite our managers short comings, please take into account that he has two hands tied behind his back and in all honestly is not being allowed to make the decisions that he should really be making as a manager. Too many cooks spoil the broth as they say, or is that crooks?
BR

Agree. Ally is doing the best he can with what he's got. Ally is a club legend and will always be in my eyes regardless what happens.

Those who hit disagre, please explain? what don't you agree with?
BR

Fair play mate,but he should still have enough to beat the lower teams in the league ffs,indefensable the amount of points he has dropped

I have decided to agree.

24 Jan 2012 17:44:59
Listen you lot - mccoist IS the man for us ! His hands are tied by White an I've not much ever agreed wi "smudgers" ideas for a team- drivel that man talked on the tranny... It's not signings but injury that's cost us big time, I'll say if Naismith - laff - Whittaker wernt out we'd be clear at the top. There's no doubt Davis needs these boys in the team just as they need him in the team!

Naismith is a good player, Whittaker is average and Lafferty is crap. So you're talking really about one player. If Rangers don't have a squad strong enough to cope with that then that is Criag Whyte and Ally's fault (remember Ally has signed several players he is not playing).

Celtic have had Izzaguire missing for most of the season up until now and Kayal will miss the remainder of the season, two of Celtic's best players. They've also had long terms injuries to many of their defenders. Doesn't seem to be affecting them too much.

If Whittaker was still in, we'd be even further behind, he is absolute torture...

24 Jan 2012 17:10:27
Ally McCoist is and always will be a legend for Rangers however CW is seriously damaging his reputation. It comes to something when someone Muslimovic chooses Sunderland over Rangers. Who is he, the guy is a nobody and he is on trial at Rangers. With one week left of the transfer market unless we get some decent striker then I worry about the remainder of the season. The next two games are a must win and after the shambles against the sheep on Saturday it is going to be difficult. Mr Whyte do something now, We deserve the truth!!

To be fair, most players would choose Sunderland over Rangers.

I think at the moment most players would choose Berwick Rangers.Sad state of affairs IMO but surely the most important thing is your club survives?If it meant selling all your best players to do that then surely if they are such Gers diehards then they would come back in a few years when your club are back on their feet?

Jungle Bhoy.

24 Jan 2012 16:13:23
Taking everything into account about whyte. If rangers get hit with anything over 5m from hmrc do you think he will pay it or let the club go into admin & walk away ?

Or

If rangers win the tax case will he live up to his word & pay the rest of the tick off.

Lenny

Pompey have just been hit with a winding up order over an unpaid 1.6 million pound bill, if ours is clear cut as all pessimists think why haven't RFC been hit with 1 by now

Whyte 'wants' Rangers to go t*** up.

If the tax case goes for us, we still have the 18m debt that Whyte has secured, and he or his company will still owe the bank, as he has re-financed the money.

If we go under and have to start again...Whyte ''will'' get paid his 18m, as the only preferred creditor....Rangers will start from scratch....Whyte will sit a wee while (not long) then sell the 'new' Rangers, who will be debt free, and walk away with a handsome 'money for nothing' profit.

He will then have shown the ones who don't already know, 'exactly' what a Venture Capatalist is.

I cant see him walking away Lenny can you imagine the uproar if he did? He wouldnt be able to live in this country lol It's worrying times for us at the moment constant bad press regarding the running of the club. Has he really got the clubs interest at heart? I don't know I would hope he did but I think the picture will be a lot clearer once we know the outcome, then we will know if he really is in it for the right reasons.

Billyboy1

Whyte is an experienced Venture Capatalist and will certainly have plans in place with regards to the various outcomes that can result from the tax case. No-one outside of Whyte and his closest advisors will have any clue as to how he has really structured his exit strategy, but one thing is for sure - Whyte will walk away with a substantial profit and it's likely to be fairly soon. Where will Rangers end up - it's frightening to think about.

Similar to my original post mate.....100% spot on....as you say, the only thing we won't know is his exact exit strategy,

24 Jan 2012 15:52:18
Portsmouth given winding up order over £1.6m debt by HMRC................time to support and hold the club up bears.

And how do you intend to hold the club up.

24 Jan 2012 14:33:59
i feel it is time we had an outside manager that comes from a background of running teams on a shoestring. Ally is an ok guy, but i think he is like other managers "loyal " to their causes, many of whom fall by the wayside because they cant think " outside the box ".

David Moyes, Billy Davies, Neil Warnock. Mick McCarthy all come to mind.

No doubt i'll be shot down in flames, but think about it. Lots of high profile ex players never make it as managers but lots of not so good players do - Busby, Stein,Ferguson,Rednapp,Shankly,Evans,Paisley all come to mind.
Think about it bears - if McCoist wasn't a so called "loyal" he would have walked by now with the nonsense going on at present, whereas an outsider would just get on with the job of running the team with whatever scraps he has.

What the hell you talking about son? Are you saying the greatest striker to ever wear your blue shirt, "is an ok guy"? And you want him to leave? What a prat you are, no wonder you didn't leave a name!

You want a new manager who is used to working on a shoe string budget, and you mention Davie Moyes (Marouane Fellaini £15 million, Yakubu £11.25m), Neil Warnock (Shaun Wright-Phillips £4m, Anton Ferdinand £4.5m), Mick McCarthy (Steven Fletcher £4.5m, Kevin Doyle £6.5m)

Keep taking your medication son and stay away from the computer!

DazzaBhoy

If Neil Warnock is ever appointed Rangers manager I think I will stop going. David Moyes would be a good manager, not keen on Billy Davies myself, I don't see where the hype comes from and Mick McCarthy, really?

GovanFR

These managers would never come to Rangers

Don't know what any other manager would do with current crop, but I will say that the loss of Naisy, Lafferty and now even Whittaker is starting to show, game after game.. Ally McCoist inherited majority of the squad and so he knew what we needed to make us better, CW just has not delivered on promises and it is looking increasingly like the signings and trialists have nothing to do with any of Ally's preferences. This leads to the question, is Ally lying to us when he is being told to ? I would imagine he has more of an idea of what is REALLY going on at the club than he is permitted to say. Ultimatum would be, shut up until after the HMRC case, and take it from there, until then here are some bargain options Ally, as that is all we can offer you..... Just my thoughts Bears, the wee man is working with his hands tied, and only a deep rooted love of Rangers keeps the guy at the club. I believe things will work out further down the line and we will come out of this stronger, but really... WHO KNOWS ? Wattie did tell us after all, " it will get worse, before it gets better " AndyPandy63 ( just my opinion )

Anyone who is a manager of any ilk would take on the job of running Rangers, so don't talk through yer @rse !!

24 Jan 2012 13:41:52
i look in here about once a month just to see what the bears are saying , last time you were all talking about jordan rhodes and other pie in the sky dreams. i see someone today saying ''we need a controlling midfieder '' . what part of skint do you not understand . soluko payed his own way there , you can't afford jaager and he is free. you are now giving trials to two guys that have not kicked a ball in anger since may and august because nobody else wants them . that's your market , get used to it . and jellylegs wil be there til end of season because you are asking for silly money ,he will go then for about £3m

.....and you know we can't afford Jaager how?

Yet another Timothy who THINKS they know all the goings-on at Ibrox, when quite frankly, you don't.

YOU KNOW NANTY!!

TTG

The people still believe Aluko paid Aberdeen all the compensation money are absolute idiots.

GovanFR

I do agree with everything said apart from the Jelavic bit, uz will get around 7 mil for him.

Drew

Only if someone wants to pay £7 mil, and right now he is going nowhere, Drew

24 Jan 2012 12:47:46
Never been so happy about the potential sale of rangers players in my life but getting broadfoot and ortiz out the door of ibrox will be a glorious day for all rangers fans all over the world! Lets just hope Bristol city and lech pozan don't watch too much videos of then or any potential deals will be dead


J91

Let them go as free anything to get dead wood out the door davies try get something for him

You cant just let them go as free,that costs you in paying the remainder of the contract which would be more detrimental than anything else.
drumlad

24 Jan 2012 11:56:06
I think if Rangers start again with a new
name we should apply to join the
Blue Square Prem, and start working our way to
the EPL. I am sure the Blue square teams
would be keen for Rangers to join
with the away support we would take.

If Celtic really dont want us in the SPL
lets leave them to rot in it!

Jas

As long as none the the Blue Square teams are based in Manchester, eh?

Jas: how many years to get to the epl mate? what would you charge for season tickets for games against barnet,etc? what level of player would you attract? not thought out at all. green jhedi

@green jedhi ..im pretty sure if this did happen we could attract a decent level of player still ..not million pound players but good enough to get us out that league and im sure the young players we would have would be good enough ......NEVER HAPPEN THOUGH

Barry Hearn still trying to offload orient. Buy out and rename with newco, a fresh start with no debt and entry in the EFL. Got to laugh at Celtic fans not wanting us , watch this space when reality dawns on them. Big fish in a wee pond with no water and flapping.
Timalloyluvsragers.

Celtic FAA don't quite get it without rangers their club will just go down hill. what do they have to look forward to, no TV company will pay to show celtic winning the league by 30 points every season. There fans will get bored with it, season ticket sales will drop. They will have no choice but to gradually lower costs to the point where they are just ether than the other spl teams, who would no longer get tv money or rangers away support money and so would have even less money than they do now. Without rangers Scottish football would die. If both the OF clubs left there would be some hope.

GovanFR

Blue square would not take you. and anyway somebody would have to drop out and want compo. which you would have to pay. a big non starter

Green jhedi - well we would be the biggest team in every league upto the championship so I am sure we could attract the best players at that level to get us up the leagues. I keep hearing that Celtic would be better off without us so I think we should leave your lot to it. I would personally be excited about the prospect as the SPL is terrible anyway and there would be a light at the end of the tunnel. Oh how I would laugh if this taxcase resulted in us getting a ticket into England!!

If we have to apply for Division 3, or SPL if we come back as a newco, then why not apply to the Blue Square? Their clubs are mega struggling financially and would benefit greatly if Gers joined. Im game for it

Jas

Seriously,what do you think "new rangers" could charge for a blue square game at ibrox against kidderminster? travelling fans would get 250 tickets.c'mon mate green jhedi

I would still pay my full £500

J

24 Jan 2012 09:47:24
Good Morning Ostriches, see your great club with it's vast wealth are taking two more players on trial. I see one is called Bruin, but there is another person with the same name, known worldwide, always in the Sunday papers, 6ft 5in I give you ostriches
HEN BROON, ha ha Timalloy
PS keep the insults coming you have nothing else to offer Mind the Gap!

Why are you calling us ostriches?

A number of Rangers supporters (not all) are simply burying their head in the sand rather than believe the sorry situation your club is in.

Yesterdays news tim, you not got anything new for us?

Timalloy,

How many players have Celtic gave trials too over the past two seasons?

Think before you leap........

TTG

24 Jan 2012 08:22:49
Let's not beat about the bush, who in there right mind would sign fot rangers at the moment? The club could be weeks away from going into administration due to tax case, would you leave a job and goto another job that was in threat of closer in a few months? NO CHANCE, so why would people like grant holt want to leave a in like norwich to join rangers? It's free transfers only I'm afraid.

Absolute Rubbish !

What's rubbish about it?

24 Jan 2012 07:54:05
It seems to me that with the players we currently have on trial and the lad celik that ally is maybe tying to change the system all be it on the cheap. With jelavic on his way out the door and not alot of striking options left I think we could change to the 433 system similar to which barcalona play, with one striker and 2 wingers pushed us alongside. This would be good I think and maybe play more attractive football rather than the standard 442 which in my book has sen it's day.

Barcelona don't really play a formation, but I would like to see us play a 4-3-3.

GovanFR

We all ready pract play way 1 up front cause healy is invisible and it just doesnt work rangers should play two up front and the midfielders should get changed two get servise two thing is wee need a partner ship an we aint got that just now celtic have hooper an stokes an both score even our star striker doesnt score much

24 Jan 2012 03:04:58
Had to laugh at the Jim Traynor report. Scare mongering of the greatest order. The opening Line, Rangers are only days away from administration with doom and gloom for the whole of the SPL. What does he know that everyone else doesn't? Last month he was one of the reporters telling us a deal was done, him and Mr King - the one who seen the smoking gun, he changed his tune about that one too. he now says he knows someone who seen it.
Truth is - nobody has a clue, Traynor, King, RTC, Phil, Whyte, Murray or even any of the lawyers involved in the case, everything you have heard is speculation. The case has been heard the Judges are deliberating, and we are unlikely to hear anything for at least 8 weeks, but it could be 8 Months or a year depending on just how messy this is. Granted everyone wants a solution to it but it looks like it wont be anytime soon. No one has come out and said it is looking good for either camp because the truth is, they don't know. Traynor is right about one thing though, If this case goes against Rangers and the worse case scenario becomes a reality it will have far reaching consequences and the sad thing is the main man responsible for it appears to have got away Scot free.

Pete

Pete

Pete: good post mate .remember traynor is very friendly with murray(who for me caused this mess your in) thats why his name iznt even mentioned in this load of rubbish.traynor was probably the worst most sycophantic reporter towards murray during his mad spending days( succellent lamb and the finest reds) and is now deflecting any attention away from his pal. the tax case story broke two years ago but not one reporter chased the story down thus giving the sensible rangers supporters a chance to ask questions. green jhedi

Wouldn't entirely agree with what you say Pete. The lawyers will have a pretty good idea of what the decision is going to be, and in turn will have advised their clients. As such Rangers will have been advised on the most likely outcome, although I accept that the outcome is not 100% certain until those hearing the case make and release their decision.

The timing of the decision may also be a lot quicker than anticipated. The latest hearing was to allow further evidence from both sides to be presented, but the bulk of evidence had alreday been put forward at earlier hearings.