Rangers Banter Archive May 24 2016

24 May 2016 21:10:13
Just watched joey's press conference didn't think I'd like the guy but I've changed ma opinion of him can't wait to see him on the pitch.

24 May 2016 20:02:26
Hope Warbs is in Portland in the u. s of a signing up that big striker, good player b. t. w. We need a target guy who is mobile and cad cause havoc.

24 May 2016 22:17:54
Where you seeing that?

24 May 2016 23:18:51
Never realised how good a player joey b is, I put in Joey Barton goals and ended up with a big smile on my face, great talent, worth watching.

25 May 2016 01:01:00
Kranjcar in tomorrow.

25 May 2016 03:13:22
Just googled Fenando Adi goals for Portland Timber in MLS. Scored some good goals right/ left foot plus headers. Value 1.2 million, could be a excellent buy if MW is looking for a striker.

25 May 2016 09:20:05
Hopefully our scouting network do a bit more work than some of you lol.

25 May 2016 09:26:46
just checking out that dude on Youtube, looks like a good player and could handle him self well, big mobile CF, exactly what we need, wee must build a solid spine, Crooks CB, Barton and the young Liverpool boy CM now 1 CF and another CB needed and we will be good to go!

24 May 2016 22:53:49
Think he was on talks port last week saying he was off on a ten day holiday with his wife after the cup final.

24 May 2016 18:32:51
OK. no more noughty songs. it might upset joey---and we don't want that--- lol.

24 May 2016 20:39:02
Should be knocking the naughty songs on the head anyway don't want them at the club fans need to move on and don't give the haters ammunition.

24 May 2016 19:49:55
Celtic had their largest attendance of the season last night to welcome BR = 10k.

25 May 2016 10:22:52
Bigtrfc
Hopefully now that we are back where
We belong that supporters will spend time over the break to come up with new songs and get ibrox jumping without some of the songs that belong in the past.

24 May 2016 18:25:23
Thought Barton came across really well in his press conference. Definitely seems like he has matured and is up for the challenge ahead. Also the fact that he turned down more money elsewhere is a good sign. Can see him bossing our midfield for the next few seasons.
Well done for getting that one over the line, we're going about our business nicely in time for next season. Him, Rossiter, Crooks and Windass are all great pieces of business, for different reasons. The last 3 will have a good sell on fee and should add to the starting 11, and Barton will be worth his weight in gold with his experience.
I'd rather be in our shoes than Rodgers, what is he going to do with all they bang average midfielders?

24 May 2016 18:59:49
well first thing i am in no fear of rogers at both swindon and liverpool he inherited good players and did no good his successful season at liverpool was down suarez and the fact they had no european games.

we all no what happened the following season at celtic he has inherited bad players his spiel about parkhead not being a step down is right only because he could not get a job down south as far as joey goes he ay have matured but he will need to be because every midfielder up here will make it there mission to get him sent off for losing the plotand the first in the queue will be brown whose footballing qualities good be written on the back of a second class stamp.

24 May 2016 18:03:23
Great interview with Barton on RTV. Very positive and does not hide his back ground and up bringing. Also said he had offers with lots more money but was bitten by the gers bug.

24 May 2016 17:46:16
"I went away with Rangers at the forefront of my mind, and I just knew I had to go and do it, and it was something I had to be a part of. "

He will do good for us, I still think he has a bad past but atleast we're his future.

24 May 2016 20:09:24
I hope his past is in the past and stays there, that's my only concern. Quality player tho, outstanding for burnley.

24 May 2016 15:03:23
Ed 001 who do you think has the better manager/ head coach and has the better chance of moving forward Rangers or Celtic? And what is your opionon on warburton do you rate him?

{Ed001's Note - I have to be honest, I really do not rate Rodgers, so I can't see how Warburton can be any worse. Rodgers will play players completely out of position, buy badly, ruin any defensive solidity, play boring football, will not train the players hard enough so they are unfit and will happily blame the players for any issues, as he did with Sterling very publicly leading to the initial rift.

As for Warburton, he is still new to the game as a head coach, this is the first time he has had real responsibility for building a team, so it will be now that he can be judged. So far he has met his targets. It is next year, if things don't start well, that we will find out how good he actually is.}

24 May 2016 19:14:17
But, but ed001, he has promised to play 'the Celtic way'. Suarez reckons he is one of the best in Europe, but then again why haven't one of the best clubs in Europe taken him?

{Ed001's Note - if he can learn from his mistakes at Liverpool (there were certainly plenty of them) then he might become a good manager. Not sure what the Celtic Way is. Not sure any team really has a way. This is not the Samurai we are talking about.}

24 May 2016 19:49:44
Don't hold back edd:) I agree that warburton is still learning his trade. Next season will tell all but the right players appear to be coming in so here's hoping he gets the job done. I'm surprised the other lot didn't go for stubbs tbh.

{Ed001's Note - I am not surprised, Rodgers is very good at talking the talk and selling himself. He talked his way into a job at Liverpool he was nowhere near ready for. Now he is telling all and sundry he is responsible for Luis Suarez, even though he never bought him, but apparently he made him famous, rather than the handball in a minor tournament no one had heard of called the World Cup. According to Rodgers though, it was all him who created Suarez.}

24 May 2016 20:29:22
Since I was a kid I have always had a soft spot for Liverpool and watch a decent amount of their games.

Therefore, I feel I am well placed to comment on Rodgers' time at Liverpool. Obviously it is a matter of opinions but I disagree with Ed on his assessment of Rodgers.

For starters how can you say he plays boring football when we scored over 100 league goals the season we nearly won it? Correct me if I am wrong but I think that is the most we have scored since 1895-96.That being said, I do agree that his system made us vulnerable at the back.

If he was as bad as you are making out, how did he nearly win us the league and come closer than any of our previous managers? I know he did not do great this season but he lost Suarez and Sturridge was out for the majority of the season. From what I remember we were supposed to get Sanchez as part of the Suarez deal but he did not want to come and the transfer committee forced Balotelli on to him instead.

I also disagree with you about player fitness and him not training them hard enough. The work rate of his teams is immense and that was how we managed to successfully play such a high tempo pressing game, high up the pitch. Also if he was as bad as you are making out, then I doubt you would have one of the world's best players (Suarez) saying that he is the best coach he has ever worked with. Not only that he got the best out of Sturridge and developed Sterling into the player he is today.

You are also blaming him for buying badly in the transfer market, which is a bit unfair considering how our transfer committee work. Basically, the manager tells them he needs a Left Back for example. The committee then make a list of possible signings and the manager has to chose one from the list or do without.

With regards to Sterling, I have heard conflicting stories about the Sterling saga before he went to Man City.

{Ed001's Note - you say us about Liverpool, but then have no idea how it works. Scored 100 goals in one season, what about his other seasons when he played the style he wanted to? He was in charge of the transfer committee, he picked the signings, so losing a player or two is no excuse, he should have bought better replacements. You can disagree, but the players themselves were unfit, just ask Klopp who had to deal with a succession of soft tissue injuries caused by trying to get them fit. Also really don't care what a player says publicly, they are morons. I don't care what 'stories' you have heard about Sterling, I am telling you the initial rift was caused by Rodgers and Aidy **** Ward stepped in to take advantage. By the way, please do not try to tell me how the committee works when you haven't a clue, as you were so wrong about its working that it shows you don't know.}

25 May 2016 08:45:20
You say I have no idea how it works but yet I am basing my opinion on what came directly from Rodgers' mouth. WHen he was on Sky Sports Sunday morning program he discussed the transfer committee at great length.

You are right that he had the final say but his choice was to pick one from a pool of players the committee had identified or not to have anyone. I know if I was a manager and the season was about to start and I did not have a striker then I would chose one of the strikers on offer even though I didn't want them because it is better than not having anyone.

Next you mention his other seasons in charge in relation to the style of play being boring. However, in his first season Liverpool scored 71 goals in the league (4th best and nearly 2 goals per game) . IN his third season, I admit it was poo but if you look at the facts we had just lost Suarez and Sturridge was out for nearly the whole season. Balotelli was not suited to high pressing game so he had to adapt and if I recall correctly Sterling ended up being our main striker for much of that season and we had to make sure we were solid as we did not have a reliable goal threat.

You are right that there has been a lot of hamstring injuries under Klopp but that does not mean that the players were unfit under Rodgers and as I already pointed out if they were unfit they could not have played the high pressing game that they did under Rodgers. Going back to Klopp, we know that he works the players harder and makes them do even more running (this is evident based on the increased running distance by the players during matches) all of this puts extra strain on the muscles which could be the reason we are seeing more of these injuries.

With regards to Luis Suarez's comments, I think it is really harsh that you call him a moron, just because he contradicts what you are saying. It is evident that you have an axe to grind with Mr Rodgers and some of your reasons may be justified but it is clear to me that some of the reasons are not justified.

{Ed001's Note - actually he was given the choice to identify players himself but chose not to. So that is just nonsense from his mouth to excuse his own failings. Every club works that way, do you think Shanks and Paisley picked the players they signed out of thin air or were they recommended to them by Geoff Twentyman? The fact that Rodgers got the choices wrong is all down to him and the fact that he could never be bothered to get off the sunbed long enough to go and watch potential signings.

Facts my arse, we had plenty of strikers that he refused to play. Strikers he chose to sign. So any lack of performances is down to his failings. Yet again. His style of play was crap, just like Bobby M at Everton and LVG at Man Utd, all sideways passing and possession. Rodgers chose to play Sterling up front, against Sterling's wishes, rather than give any of the strikers he had signed a go up front. So whose fault is it that we had no main striker? One man - Rodgers.

Rodgers did not play a high press, if that is all you have to say, you are wrong and this is pointless as you clearly have no idea about the game or what a high press is.

Oh so you think a guy that bit 3 players and racially abused another player is intelligent? Shows what your thinking is like. It ius nothing to do with his comments disagreeing and everything to do with the fact he is not very bright. Nice guy, despite the idiotic incidents, but a very unintelligent one outside of footballing terms.

Nothing is clear to you because you are ignorant of the facts and just go on tabloid crap, end of convo, you are wrong.}

25 May 2016 09:02:00
I should have added that one of football's most respected fitness guru's (Raymond Verheijen) has criticised Klopp's training methods and stated that his: "training methods fail to take fatigue into account, pushing the players past their limits and into the red zone. Once they're in that red zone, an injury is inevitable. " - So this is likely the reason we are seeing all the injuries and not because of Rodgers as you have claimed.

{Ed001's Note - hahaha says it all that you think he is anything other than a self-publicist selling his method. And yes I know him well and his method. The red zone crap is a myth as has been proven many times. It is a lack of entering the red zone that causes the injuries. Perhaps if people stopped listening to this kind of bull, we might get past all the niggles. Leicester City had the lowest injuries in the Prem last season by training harder than everyone else. A player for a rival team said to me, after they faced Leicester, "their warm up before the game was harder than our full training during the week". They were entering the red zone regularly, remind me how many injuries they picked up?}

24 May 2016 16:29:57
All the footage and pictures of Bartons signing have Sir Davie Weir in them. Suggests that the gaffer is away scouting again, possibly to finalise the Krancjar deal in the US?

24 May 2016 21:03:14
dont know if in the usa, but does seem odd.

24 May 2016 15:42:28
With Clark, Templeton and law gone and more to leave that should cover the wages of the players we brought in and some . we will have strength and depth next season and players will come off the bench and make an impact not like this season . we are 1 year into a project and can't wait for the new season, bad day at the office on Saturday but hibs will not go anywhere in Europe next season.

24 May 2016 14:30:57
Done official barton signed.

24 May 2016 15:12:56
See Celtic had their biggest crowd of the season to welcome Brendan Rodgers - 10k.

24 May 2016 17:40:35
Brilliant Brian P, i was thinking that myself.

24 May 2016 12:36:33
Grigg would be a great signing.

24 May 2016 12:50:35
He would, cost wigan £1 million last summer so would prob cost £2 million at least. Would love him at us but I doubt it would happen unless king dug deep.

24 May 2016 11:40:11
It's great commitment from joey love that he is signing for less money shows how much he wants to play for us.

24 May 2016 10:54:42
With the signing on Barton (hopefully) , Rossiter, Crooks and Windass, who will MW pick to start next season? Hopefully a CB and a ST as a minimum still to come.

24 May 2016 12:47:37
Bougherra? He has gone a bit quiet recently after professing his love for us.

24 May 2016 13:40:45
Gordon Greer should be offered a contract.

24 May 2016 09:17:48
All this talk about Barton v Brown keeps me laughing, it's like comparing David Haye and Frank Malone.

24 May 2016 11:56:32
Any time Brown has been up against a good quality midfielder in Old Firm games he's pretty much vanished.

I doubt it's going to be as good as most people think, Brown will just become anonymous.

24 May 2016 08:49:20
It's good to see King challenging Ashley and sports direct over all aspects of the contractual arrangement put in place by Green and co. I hope that our legal team has thoroughly researched all avenues of this case so we are water right in court and along with new football league rules Newcastle have to adhere to Ashley walks away from gers. I believe once he is gone we will be back up there selling the most replica kits in Europe.

24 May 2016 11:14:35
wonder if it all goes that way then would a new kit deal with someone else be on offer? or a re-negotiation with puma?

i know ashley has intrests in puma so would that be a concern.

24 May 2016 10:43:48
Hope so, surely they would have sound legal advice or it would obv be a huge risk as we all know how sneaky ashley is. Would love to see DK and co put him in his place.

24 May 2016 15:25:23
People seem to have misapprehension about king 👑, he is also a very successful businessman, and is not skint by a long shot, and he has contacts worldwide, so I think MA has underestimated him big time.

24 May 2016 08:11:59
The Daily Express is reporting that Nicky Clark was offered a new contract by the club but left by his on decision. Personally believe it is just media lies to sell their paper.

24 May 2016 12:00:31
If he was offered a new deal it must have been to sell bluenose burgers from one of the food kiosks.

24 May 2016 02:54:05
Thoughts on a CB Christopher Samba plays for Dynamo Moscow, age 32, height 1.93, contract expires end of June 2016, valued at 4 mil but could be a steal if he doesn't sign a new contract.

24 May 2016 04:57:01
If this is the guy that played at Blackburn I am sure he moved to Russia to be paid a s*** load of cash and if he is still in Russia he will still be getting paid a lot. He is the type of player who will go to the club with the highest wage on offer and that won't be us.