Rangers Banter Archive January 25 2014

25 Jan 2014 17:58:23
Has anyone thought that Wallace and the consultant he brought in (Nash) had a look and didn't like what Stockbridge was up to and had a quiet word in his ear and that's why he resigned
just a thought
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Could be true. It will be a long time before we ever really know.

Or maybe his position was just untenable. Not everything connected to Rangers has to be sinister.

25 Jan 2014 20:21:35
Not a chance. No way was he forced out. That simply doesn't happen without a pay out to go with it. Quit trying to interpret things to give yourself the hope that wallace might be some kind of white knight. He aint.

@3 and your sure he's not why?
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25 Jan 2014 21:34:43
I predicted last month on here that BS would be on his way shortly as it would help sell season tickets.

26 Jan 2014 10:02:13
@4 Simply because there was no pay out, which would make it the first instance in business history where a high paid executive was just asked to leave and meekly did so without negotiating terms. Its just not credible. An alternative could be that there as in fact a pay out even though the club told us there wasnt. But that would make wallace a liar, which again would hardly point to his being the guardian of justice who would "have a quiet word" in SBs ear in the interests of having a "clean" board. doesn't add up. Not only on balance of probabilities but also beyond reasonable doubt. Also see @5s post - it was in any event entirely predictable thst SB would need to be on his way in time enough to build up fans trust ahead of next round of STs. Not to mention likely need for fans to ig deep for another share issue. So its totally see through, no need whatsoever to think this scenario needs a "good guy wallace" to explain it.

Pauline, you would be brilliant on jury service. Everyone would be guilty until they proved otherwise. A little humility and maybe just admitting you are not 100% sure all the time would not be amiss. xx

@6 or maybe as I suggested he was found out
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26 Jan 2014 15:49:01
@8 Ok let's say he was just "found out". Found out doing what exactly? If he was guilty of fraud or something then if wallace suggested SB "just go quietly and no more will be said", that's hardly the behaviour of a responsible chief exec is it, that would still paint wallace in a bad light. Its just more likely it was time for SB to move on for reasons #5 and I explain above. AB72 i'm not claiming to be 100% right, and sorry if I come across arrogant, that's not the intention. Its not a case of "guilty until proven innocent" but we have a rather embarassing tradition emerging at this club now of trusting every next figure who walks through the door until, lo and behold, it turns out they're a fkn rogue as well. We don't owe wallace or anyone else any grace period before we start asking difficult questions of them. We SHOULD be quick to juddge these guys ffs. And Wallace has done nothing so far to indicate he'll be anything else than the latest clown. What has he done so far apart from demoralise the players and announce some p#sh about mccoist taking a fantasy pay cut that hasn't happened yet? That doesn't impress me much.

I've yet to find myself disagreeing with any of Paulines posts. Seems to me she's just not prepared to be mugged of based on past experience. Nothing wrong with exercising caution. I'm surprised so many are prepared to jump into bed with Wallace so easily to be honest.

Baybear, looks like you are desperate to jump into bed with our Pauline. xx

{Ed039's Note - lmfao)

Only messing Pauline, I just don t take things as seriously as some on here. Again messing here, but how can you have an 'embarassing tradition emerging'?

26 Jan 2014 21:40:33
Thanks Baybear, appreciate that. Apologies to others if my posts have come across with wrong tone, just a bit wound up that's all. AB72 appreciate you're just injecting a bit of humour (god knows we need some so am glad someone is trying to help us laugh). But to answer your question: whyte, green, wallace - welcoming the first without question was a tragedy, welcoming the second without question was foolish, welcoming the third without question is crazy and embarassing. It makes a mockery of our supposed principles of loyalty and pride in the rangers family because these principles have now become the very means by which we have been turned into easy pickings for con men (at least twice already). Our pride should be the very thing that makes us a formidable set of fans that any new leader knows he will have to prove himself to before he wins our trust. Instead, we now have a tradition of just handing our trust to any w#nker who says the right things in the DR. that's what I meant by an embarassing tradition emerging. Wish it was funny but sadly its not.

@11 lol, I walked into that one. Careful AB72, you'll have folk thinking this is a banter site.

@11 Well said and you clearly care about the club and how we should behave as club and support. Only issue is at some point there needs to be someone we can trust and it might just be Mr Wallace. Things will be clearer one way or another by May and we should all continue to directly and indirectly challenge Mr Wallace to be transparent. It pretty noticeable that the formal supports groups are pretty silent since the AGM

25 Jan 2014 17:39:27
I hope ally does the best for Rangers and go's at the end of the season, don't think he's got it.

He never had it that's the point, you can't buy success if don't have a management brain allys brains were in his feet but never in his head we can stand here all day and tell him to go and let someone who knows what their doing take over but allys a showman exhibitionist who can't see his own faults, he won't chuck it so were stuck with him till someone shoves him doug t. s. o

OP just listened to a Radio debate where Paul Hartley and Michael Stewart both spoke well. In answer to comments coming out of Ibrox that you cannot play a passing game in the lower divisions Paul Hartley confirmed his Alloa had done so. PH also confirmed the average salary bill in the third tier was £100,000 a year. Michael Stewart and one of the journalists confirmed that a Premier League Manager stated the Gers did not look like a well coached team and there did not appear to be any shape or form to the team. Cuts will dominate the rest of the season at Ibrox and a coach who can manage on reduced resources is required. Not a coach who is looking for increased resources. Not all his fault but the bad habits learned under David Murray and Walter Smith have not prepared him for our current plight. IF he goes and it is still a very big IF then Mr Wallace might look at a left field candidate such as Gary Holt of Falkirk IMO

@2 some excellent points there and it's 100% correct about the team it doesn't look as though it's being coached properly. I have never doubted our ability to get out of the bottom 2 division under McCoist as the gulf in resources is that big even a poor manager couldn't fail to win either league. Going forward though Rangers will struggle under him and will find life difficult in the championship. I fear that even if we get back to the top league we will spend seasons as an also ran scrapping with other teams to make top 6 and being miles behind Celtic. Maybe then will the pro Ally brigade will realise he isn't the man to take the club forward