Rangers Banter Archive June 25 2012

25 Jun 2012 22:10:06
I'm a rangers supporter now and in whatever guise, league , and in all circumstances , I bear no ill wishes against the clubs that will vote against us and have already stated so , as is their democratic right, in a ideal world all monies due to creditors large and small would be paid , the punishment in whatever form it takes I as a fan will accept, no matter what league we end up in I will and always will remain a GER .

Well said. True fans will always remain with their club. They might not like what's happening but they'll always be there. I'd be exactly the same if it were Celtic.
The true football fans among you have my sincerest sympathies, you weren't part of the corrupt fiasco in years gone by and you don't deserve the misery and heartbreak you're being forced to deal with now.
I still think your club belongs in the SPL but apparently others don't share my thoughts. We will await your return from wherever you have to start and we'll ridicule and laugh at you as much as possible for 90 minutes on match day as ever and you'll feel the same about us. But isn't that what the attraction of the OF is all about?

Hail Hail
ChrisBhoy

25 Jun 2012 21:35:46
I see the Dunfermline chairman, Yorkston is saying that his team should be in SPL not Dundee. This is one of them that crucified us for "sporting integrity".
Your team finished bottom of the league, so what about "sporting integrity" now?
Does that not apply when your team is involved?
Sanctimonious prat!

Such big questions are for the big teams in the SPL club. Sevco5088 and it's supporters shouldn't worry themselves with SPL business.

Dunfermline would have stayed up if they went out and payed £4m on a jelavic then deliberatly refused to pay tax! After 5 months of administration you are still not getting it, are you??

Bottom of SPL is still above top of SFL 1, but maybe thats too much for a supporter of a soon to be diddy SFL3 team to understand. Think Yorkston has a point, same as he did when he spoke out against you months ago.

Diddy team in div 3 you say,aye ,and all you dhims are wetting your pants at the prospect of a clear run in the league,grow up,Rangers will survive and given time and a patient support,we will be back at the top of Scottish football,and you wont be so smug.

Ed can you answer this one please ...... The newco has been refused permission to transfer share - I agree with OP for "sporting integrity" to be upheld Dunfermline shouldn't escape relegation - but my question is, when does another team get into the SPL ? The reason I ask this, is if the share is not transferred to newco, then it still sits with oldco, which won't be liquidated for another few months {Ed039's Note - The decision is still to be made as to who will be "Club 12" who will have their own share in the league)

25 Jun 2012 20:57:37
11 teams in spl will vote to split ticket admissions in the next season. Celtic no longer have rangers to say no along side them

Dont be so silly teams cant go 2 celtic and say we want half share of 58.000 what planet r u on would not stand up in court no matter what they vote. so just say that was going 2 happen is the other team going 2 pay half the cost of running parkhead that day and police cost catering costs for the day. wake up u silly boy

Rubbish.There are plenty ways round this,assuming it is legal?Explain how they could possibly justify it.Dreaming............green jhedi

Its a simple problem for celtic to overcome just charge a membership fee to season ticket holders and charge £1 for each game . they can agree a fee for membership . but could oyher teams afford to do that at home games i dont think so

That can't happen, though TV money will be split more evenly apart from that the clubs get their own sponsors. It has been an unfair system anyway though it was always the Rangers and Celtic fans who had to put up with the inconvience of travelling at odd times. That's if there is a TV deal
Bobby

The SPL don't have that power its illegal.
Why not just rule to take 95% of celtics home gate revenue?
Get a life and stop poisonous attacks on clean teams.
I know your hurting, my highly developed emotional intelligence tells me so, but try to keep some dignity. Don't lose all your self esteem.

I think what people are overlooking is the inevitable drop in Celtics attendance. No OF games, no title race. I'd be shocked if Celtic average above 40,000 this season.

Right, who is the silly boy?

Half of the net, for the benefit of you, with a failure to understand reality, have of the total gate less costs - policing, stewarding, catering etc. Think it wont happen? Wake up and smell the coffee thick bhoy

@1 you are not allowed to go to court to dispute decisions taken by football authorities
@5 football makes there own rules outwith the law of the land

JG

You pay to see a product.

The product in this case being the two teams on the park.

Celtic and 1 other.

Therefore total monies in less expenses CAN legally be split 50/50 between both teams.

You could have the other 11 refusing to host or attend games in which Celtic refuse to co-operate.

C-mon join us in the SFL3. :)

W-Lyl

25 Jun 2012 20:39:22
What happens if Rangers dont get into division 3 ie no one wants rangers

25 Jun 2012 20:27:57
I cant get over these so called rangers fans already jumping ship this is a time for unity and the fact we could be playing 3rd div football does not budge my support for my team! at the end of the day once the smoke has cleared the true fans will have stood strong and still be there and we will remember all the ditchers,glory hunters and so called rangers fans that did walking away! WATP
BIG CRAIG

Bang on m8 . Same faces week in week out. Watp

No body is walking away from rangers.rangers walked away from debt they could not pay and are being liquidated.

Exactly right! We should be united in our support instead we are completely disjointed and arguing amongst each other! Whilst we remain this way, the rest of scottish football fans are getting a free say with no comeback! We should be one voice with a common goal! The future of Rangers football club! For the rest of the supporters who claim that Rangers have left a dark cloud over Scottish football....that's not a cloud...that's Rangers shadow that you will forever live in!

Well said chief, il be going next yernomatter what!

J

Spot on Craig, now is the time to really support our club.

25 Jun 2012 20:14:18
Charles Green to the players that are leaving 'You can play in whatever league you like, but you won't play for a bigger club than Rangers'. Love it, well said Charles

Would that be old rangers or greens new rangers.one will be defunct soon.

But Rangers dont exist anymore of course.

Course hes gonni say that ...sounds good but does he really really know the meaning of the comment....nah,....deecee

Yes rangers were the second largest club in scotland but now the contract issues have been brought to light with ebts do you think wages will come close to what they used to be . dont think so ,so whats the problem with players wanting to leave

25 Jun 2012 20:11:01
On a positive note: It can only get better for Rangers and worse for the other SPL teams.

How? Spartans or Cove Rangers might be given the place in division 3 as they have three years of accounts - that's the rules. Stranger things have happened...

Oh dear!

And theres the attitude that made sure no club would vote for you.

3) nothing to do with attitude, it's a fact you will see. Now it is you that is burying your head in the sand.

@4; Oh it has everything to do with attitude.You screwed up,accept your punishment and move on............green jhedi

Rangers would have had 3 years of accounts if murray and whyte had not shredded them to hide them from the tax man

25 Jun 2012 19:59:05
do we gers fans honestly think we were Gona get in to the spl ? 1st we don't deserve to be in the spl were ment to be a new club. rangers or not! the rules are the rules we have broke 1 to meny
2nd this was cw plan all along when will we all see this? Mr green plan b! is stringing us all along smoke and mirrors while the assets are been stripped lets not forget cw brought him to the table right after d&p were found out...

Try tellin that to awe the dinasaurs on here.....deecee

25 Jun 2012 17:09:43
hi ed what would happen if fsa declares wyhte take over void for financial irregularies would the ownership revert to david murray? {Ed039's Note - The takeover cant be declared void but the investigation could turn up some criminal activity and some sort of legal punishment for those parties involved)

25 Jun 2012 10:55:51
Ed if rangers end up in 3rd division were do you think we will be playing? I don't think we will have the cash to maintain a studium the size of ibrox. {Ed039's Note - Ibrox, its the stadium that has been bought, I cant see it sitting there empty as it would lose more money this way and I cant see it being sold for redevelopment either)

25 Jun 2012 19:16:38
This vote no to newco has not been caused by "sporting integrity". I have watched Scottish football for more years than I care to remember. I have no doubt that the SPL chairmen would have voted yes had this happened in December or January, it is that they can't sell season tickets as the fans have the smell of blood. There will be boardrooms up and down the country in a real panic, and the banks will be concerned. Wonder what kind of league it will be
when we come back. I am pretty sure half will be in the third div by then.
The chairmen are interested in money it is the bloodlust by fans that this happened. Let them reap what they have sown.
This will no doubt be greeted by the usual replies from the east side of the city, but let me tell you that you lot will also suffer, because it is no fun when you have won the league before it starts. The ONLY games worth watching are the Old Firm games, the rest is dross.

Bloodlust? Fans just want to see rules being applied without fear of favour.

So you won't be watching the Newco team this season because there are no games against Celtic.

You have a warped logic.

Mac2.

25 Jun 2012 19:08:42
Everything will be all right in the end... if it's not all right then it's not the end. BlackpoolBear

Optimism, love it Blackpoolbear

Vambo

25 Jun 2012 18:46:55
Fed up saying this. All this nonsense about clubs voting is just media talk. The proof in the pudding will be next week. Just remember to buy your season tickets whilst you think your clubs will vote out the newco.

More interesting stories to come out in the direction the newco is going.

Media talk? Most of the clubs have indicated on their websites that they will be voting no.

25 Jun 2012 18:24:29
Celtic fans will love the news of no Rangers in the SPL.
But will the remain laughing when the remaining 11 clubs gang up against Celtic and vote against celtic in the admission of ticket sales?!

I'd imagine there will be a legal challenge to any move to split ticket sales income.

1) oh so it is ok to mount a legal channel, but it was a disgrace when Rangers went to court, I look forward to that, then you will be threatened with expulsion, suspension and UEFA breathing over your shoulder, good luck!

And if there's a legal challenge will that then not incur uefas wrath ?

@2: I'm not a Celtic fan and there would be grounds to take such a business decision to CAS - it may break football rules regarding who receives the proceeds of income. It may also hurt the other teams more than Celtic as Celtic will make more money from away games than the home teams.

25 Jun 2012 18:12:52
The AUTOPSY of RFC will be carried out in the public eye& everyone will be able too see these supposed rangers men for what they really are,i.e former players managers directors..When liquidation formerly starts,there will be a forensic investigation into where every penny has went over the last 12years..It will take time but rest assured all the fagans& shysters& thiefs will be outed,along with the tens of millions banked by these so called loans(EBT,S)TO Former players..just think bears,if these LOANS were paid back yous would still have a club& avoided admin& liquidation!!!!!!!!

25 Jun 2012 18:08:33
I see we now have a new TROLL on this page. Goes by the name of chrisbhoy. Good to see that in our predicament they are still as obsessed with us as ever!

T

Not obsessed, just interested in the demise of a once great club.

25 Jun 2012 17:48:31
correct me if im wrong ,but if whyte ,murry and duff and phelps have acted illegally and are found guilty in a court of law ,how can rangers as a company be punished because of rouge individuals ,surley any punishment that the spl sfa are trying to give us just now must be put on hold until the criminal investigation is over

25 Jun 2012 18:02:57
Bye bye sevco 5088 enjoy the 3rd div.

hail hail

Marco1888

Don't worry Pacific shelf 595 fan we will enjoy being away from people like yourself.

I suspect the utterly obesessed Rangers haters wont know what to do in life now.

You enjoy winning the title by September!

@2: just like you enjoyed winning last year's by November?

25 Jun 2012 17:18:32
Totally disagree...as a season ticket holder for many years my money has been invested in these players (transfer fees/wages). If these players wanted to leave and not play in lower league...well the can and for cut-price transfer fee...then money comes back to club to help it when it needs it most. Green doesnt lose here, sdm does lose here, whyte doesnt lose here....the only loser here are us the fans. I will never cheers on naisy or whitty again, whether with scotland or anyone else. They are nothing but judas to the loyal fans of rangers...so wake up and open ur eyes and stop kidding on there victims in this....they are victims with double wages and signing on fees...aye right! We are the victims!!

They also thought mr tight was paying tax that came off their wages.

This is a very very good point at every turn its the fans that that pay the heaviest price
and when duty called we were there for them.......with the last 10 years of mis- management of murray and now the people involved could not manage this any worse.....dont think we will be in ANY league next season its that bad...les

U pay a season ticket to watch that seasons football. End of. The season finished, contract with u finished. You have an investment in nothing.
Even Rangers shareholders who did have an investment now have no investment.

I think Green does lose here. He looked on the players as assets to be sold to put money into the company. Money that seems to be very much needed with the season ticket situation.
Al

25 Jun 2012 16:46:55
Posted last month that other clubs would use this as an opportunity to change Scottish Football forever (rightly or wrongly depending on you preferences).

Now seeing perfect examples of this, yes they are making all the right sporting integrity noises, however don't kid yourselves this is the others taking the opportunity to change the voting structure.

I'm relatively happy they have voted no, it would have been incredibly hypocritical of them to vote Gers in simply to survive off the back of us, the fans.

Let us see exactly what they have in mind for re-construction.

Alright all, everton fan here. sorry to hear about all the troubles. but even if you drop to the bottom division you''ll be back up in the spl sharpish. a club with your history and prestige won't stay down forever. i have no doubt you'll stick by your club and be there week in week out whatever 11 players you field. things will get better.

I just cant beleave the spl and sfl r bending over backwards 2 get rangers into a league and still rangers have the cheek 2 blame sfa spl for all the problems if rangers came out and said sorry to all the people owed money and the mess they have put scottish football in mybe teams might have allowed them back in spl but no lets do it the rangers way and blame every one appart from rangers

25 Jun 2012 16:40:46
Bears.....
I know I try to get a laugh out of your situation at the moment. Sure you can't blame me for that, can you? You'd all be the same if it were the other way round and don't say you wouldn't.
But the truth is this......I honestly and sincerely don't want to see your club in the lower leagues. I want to see your club in the SPL next season. The Old Firm games are what make the SPL exciting and even the players of both clubs will tell you that. The fans will also tell you that if they're being totally honest.
It isn't looking good for your club at the moment and it is a real shame that this is all happening.
But if possible...keep your heads up lads and take a bit of banter. No doubt you'll look back on this in future and realise it wasn't as bad as you currently think it is going to be.
Onwards and upwards........or maybe that should be downwards!! lol lol lol

Hail Hail
ChrisBhoy

As a rangers fan thanks chris for being honest yes have your fun but i hope we meet again soon as the spl without an oldfirm game will be dire

25 Jun 2012 16:30:51
there is a vast amount of rangers supporters on here saying they are sick of the way people are out to get them, kick them when they are down etc etc etc........

What i would like to ask all of them is would yous all be saying to any other team (inc celtic) that it is ok for all that has went on.... dont yous worry about it m8's... we welcome you back in spl, and all is forgiven?????

I am sure the answer is no and if anyone can be honest enough by saying that then they might understand why everyone has so much to say against rangers.

Time for thinking from the head and not from the heart and realise it isnt everyone else at fault!!

I agree it all our fault, just as it was Motherwell,s a few year ago ....... Now list me all the sanctions and punishments they got (shouldn't take you long)....... where was the pack baying for blood then ?

1: there is very little comaprison between rangers and motherwell........... the fact that you ask the question says it all.... and up till now the only senction rangers have had is 10 points deduction that was meeningless...... the 160k has not been apaid and all others are just outcomes of non compliance to certian criterias.

25 Jun 2012 16:19:06
Jimmy calderwood and bobby Williamson going be new rangers management team to take newco through divisions, Andy goram New goalkeeper coach, watch this space.

There won't be much space if those three are involved.

1903 {Ed039's Note - Now the rumours will start of a bar, a pie stand and a tanning salon being installed at Murray Park)

25 Jun 2012 16:10:09
Why keep going on about number of fans who you think shall be at the games of all the other clubs. Look at hibs for an example when relegated in 1998 the next season they were getting an average of 4 to 5 thousand more fans at home games in div 1 why? Because they were winning. Now every club shall have a chance of european football maybe only 1 game but still in it. maybe just maybe more fans shall go back to watching football matches. Champions league rangers v malmo 28000 in a 52000 seater stadium. Where were the we dont do walking away fans then.

25 Jun 2012 15:49:54
we keep going on about walter smith and how green should walk away, well where was he before green showed up and wee went under, he new what was going on last year and wanted nothing to do with us as he didnt want to be there when we went down and some fans tell green to leave, get a grip lets start backing the guy he came in to do a job with a club that has been dragged down by murray and white lets see what the guy does, i have paid my £450 as i love the club this guy is trying to help, and who cares if he sells it in a few years for a millions of a profit if he makes a profit then as a club we are on the rite way back, green aint walking away some players are and thats there choice i respect that , i mean there just going out to make more money for themselves and they have that rite, but lets get behind our club and show some support back the new club and owners

Green will sell to smith if newco drop to division three.........green jhedi

Green has nothing but upset everyone since he came in, wants to take everyone to court, hadn't the decency to contact the players and keep them informed same as white did, still haven't seen who his sponsors are ( if there's any more) or the colour of his money apart from the loan. He won't be getting my backing till he does something to prove he really is there to help us and not trying to make a quick buck. Still not convinced the buy out wasn't a dodgy deal, could be another police enquiry albeit to late again.
Bobby

25 Jun 2012 15:37:46
Rangers apply to the SFL before its too late!
Known our luck, another team would get into the SFL ahead of us and thatd be that!

25 Jun 2012 15:26:16
Bears....stop goin on about Naismith and Whittaker. Here's the reality of it.

For those of you who work.....let's assume your boss says you must take a 75% pay cut to avoid seeing the company going out of business. He tells you that everything will be ok in a couple of months and you'll return to your full salary again.
Then...it turns out the company is not sure if it's going to be able to trade anymore. There are lots of rumours about what is happening and your company might be finished altogether.
Meanwhile, you have a wife and kids to support, a mortgage to pay, a car or two to keep on the road and a decent lifestyle you want to maintain. You know there are a few other companies down the road who can give you all the security yo need.
Are any of you trying to tell me you wouldn't go??

Leave the players alone. They didn't reate this mess so it isn't their responsibility to sort it out.

Hail Hail
ChrisBhoy

1st sensible post I have seen from a Celtic fan on here in a long time.

We all have mouths to feed

I paid Naismith's wages for a year when he sat on his arse in the stand.Naismith will be a relevation in the Engliah second division. Picking up mega money to play against the giants of Crewe and Doncaster.

@3: how did you pay his wages? The insurance cover would have done that.

@3: I guess Everton or West Brom might draw Crewe or Doncaster in one of the cups.

Anyway, you do realise that neither of those clubs are in League 2 in England?

25 Jun 2012 14:57:55
Crown Office now involved.A can of worms about to be opened--at last.Let's get it all out into the open and only then can a fresh start be made(where ever it's to be)

It is a good thing that the Crown Office are now involved and between them and the seperate investigation that will be carried out by BDO, following formal liquidation, anything that was done illegally or dishonestly will now come out.

This is the only way to clean everything up and start with a clean bill of health.

Mac2.

The boys in blue are to visit the boys in red,white and blue.Who'd have believed it could happen.

25 Jun 2012 14:23:16
Think it is a bit ironic that timmy tries to give us pelters for threatning to boycott other clubs and then threatens to boycott his own beloved club if they do not vote no

They hate us more than they love thier own club
That is a sad life being so bitter and twisted

JG

We love are club and would never let it die like the way yous have ,but you were right on one thing but got it a bit wrong not just us that hate you,s the whole of scotland has spoken ,cheats are not welcome or new clubs in to are top flight league ,jodrok

Bitter and twisted?How many clubs have said NO so far?Do you think it's only 'Timmy' as you call Celtic fans that don't like your fans?Think not or why are all the other fans shouting for your head?Why don't they like you,these bitter,twisted people?The whole world is wrong except Rangers fans.Sorry ,it's time to wake up from your deluded state.

@1 and 2, sorry to burst your wee bubbles but we have know for quite sometime that no one likes us and guess what, we did not care then, and we dont really care now, do you know why, yes because we are the people and we will play where the high and mighty SPL clubs decide we have to play. we will follow on,

JG

SO SAD but nice to see celtic fans admitting to what it is hatred instead of trying to pass it of as morally correct.But like i said if you hate us so much why do you bother wasting your time on us.Oh yes it is because you are all sad.

@3: maybe if your club had cared a little bit more, it wouldn't be in this mess now.

25 Jun 2012 13:28:59
'we owe no loyalty to the new club' well what about the thousands of fans that adore you (and pay your wages) dont you owe a wee bit of loyalty too them?

In a word NO...The Rangers he was loyal to doesn't exist anymore and he doesnt want to play his football in SFL DIV3/DIV1 for TRFC...simple as that!

Well heres the thing they didnt pay their wages. 75% paycut? Newco, clues in the name NEW they gave old rangers everything, new sevco is nothing but a name

I supose yous have all forgoten about the pay cuts they all took for the sake of the club???

25 Jun 2012 12:37:36
Motherwell fc gate income for games against Rangers last season was the same as 9 other spl clubs gave them in total and yet they will still vote no even after admitting that the club will likely go into Administration next season if Rangers are not in the league, could not make some spl teams up at times.

Great i look forward to watching the farce that will be the spl next season, 6 teams in administration, Celtic 30 points clear by xmas, Spl and Celtic at each others throats over voting rights, Celtic fans boycotting away games if they have income taken away.

This is the end of Scottish football as for force for decades to come wait and see.

Its not Motherwells fault....its Rangers!! Theres not a chance in hell you would vote motherwell back in if the shoe was on the other foot (ie tax dodging) so get aff the moral high ground

You must be very proud that your club is the cause of all this eh?............green jhedi

Green Jedi,

Yes of course we are but are getting fed up of the bloodlust shown by everybody. We are disgusted by this but still love our club, anything wrong with that?

@2 your continual snipes and comments prove you to be nothing more than a very bitter man.
Say exactly what you think, like you do on the celtic banter page, show your true colours.
The old Rangers regime may have caused this and should be punished, but these were individuals not an establishment that is being torn apart and who is suffering? The people who pay for the season tickets, the ordinary punter.

So now your all blaming gers for the running of other football clubs , honestly are you listening to yourselves ?

It was the 'establishment'---the sickness over many years,not just in Whyte's time.It stretches way back.It's been festering for years and now come to a head.A complete change is needed---in attitude and mind as well as a newco

@4; My opinions dont change on different pages.Dont you agree that this "you will all be in trouble" nonsense is tedious?.........green jhedi

@6 it stretches way back? Research Celtics history and who it was who stood by them and helped them.

@7 as is tedious you taking moral high ground and continual sniping that all the ills that befall Scottish football are gers fault.

I'm struggling to understand the small minded supporters of Scotlands wee teams! They claim we are not Rangers yet claim that we are responsible for all scottish footballs woes! They claim we cannot claim our history as we are no longer the old co yet claim we should be punished for old co's deeds! Seriously can you all make your minds up! Oh and while you are all deciding....gonna try and locate your own sites and discuss your own teams! Without the Rangers support I think you all might have a few problems of your own to worry about! Personally I don't care what happens to other teams, I'm only interested in Rangers! Just a pity you all care less about your own teams than you do about ours! It would be quite a nice gesture if it wasn't for all the pure hatred and spite being shown!

25 Jun 2012 12:26:09
Good Day Fellow Bears�..
Come on lads, get a grip, what you mean Green is not the man to take Rangers forward, don�t know about you me boy but I don�t see anyone else stepping up to the plate, however you maybe know something I don�t, he is all we fri***n have, so let�s get behind him.
As for our players, well surely we don�t want someone at the club if there heart is not in it, again boys, we were never going to jump straight back up, so let�s get a grip and again get behind the team/club, I know for a fact that the popular belief amongst the rank and file is that we drop down and work our way back up.

25 Jun 2012 10:49:42
For the past year iv watched rangers stagger from one mess to another. Everytime something worst came out I thought, surely it can't get worst now. Then we were liquidated n I thought it defo can't get worst now. But now I'm thinking it's still to get a lot worst. I'm beginning to think we won't have a team to put-on the park next season which means we wont even be able to play in the third division. That space in the third division will be given to another team and our team won't exist in any form

Dead right - there's too much crap and crime to be cleared up and not enough time to do it.

Green will walk and Rangers will disappear to be resurrected sometime in the distant future.

25 Jun 2012 02:45:20
hey..where were hibs when we played in euro finals...where were dundee utd .st mirren and allthe the rest of them....knowhere is the answer...now they decide our fate...the only word i can think of is JOKE!...deecee

I know where and what they were doing! they were trimming their wage bills and living within their means, not paying massive amounts of money they didnt have for players etc. They decide your fate because you have decided theirs for far to long and been shown to be absalutely CRAP at it. What to do is try to accept your team "blew it " big time and let your supporters and the people of Scotland down.

Sadly,the only joke is you,this should not be happening.You are being liquidated,therefore the only option,according to the rules,is expulsion from the SPL.You then apply to the SFA and SFL for a league position in div three.Where were you pre souness? i think you won four leagues in twenty years.

Euro finals? What? They are the clubs rangers have been cheating for the last 10 years! Every club deserves there vote! Ur club is no more important than anyone else's! Take ur punishment on the chin like men and stop squabbling like a bunch off spoiled babies!

Byars

How were you playing in Euro finals Deecee?
Oh thats right. With players you couldnt afford and on double contracts. Karma!

Joeshmo1888

So how would you suggest it was decided deecee.

Mac2.

Deecee i find ur comments an assault to real fans eye sight and find it astonishing ur even a fan?
Airport bear. w.a.t.p

The real joke is rangers fans like you, UEFA cup final wouldn't have happened if we didn't cheat the taxman, we don't belong in SPL, we need to start at the bottom just wish it wasn't under Mr green, pure conman.

Hibs were playing in europe before you

Murray,white,duff/phelps,decided rangers fate no one else

To be fair if you look back over the last 10 years rangers have cost every one of them teams you mentioned a trophy how ironic is that

Deecee - do you have any grasp on what is happening.

The clubs you mentioned are members of the SPL as well as the others that will be voting.

Newco at this stage are not even a football team. They do not have membership of any league in Scotland are are not members of the SFA.

The team that you refer to no longer exists they are gone.

It is Newco that are applying for membership to the SPL not the Rangers you refer to.

Mac2.

25 Jun 2012 00:52:38
Who cares that Naismith and Whittaker want to leave, they are footballers and have to look after themselves. If they don't want to be a Rangers player any longer then go, so what. If we are in div one we would have sold them anyway, the only difference is that we won't get paid for them. There will be plenty of players good enough for first division that would give their right arm to play for Rangers. Ok so they won't be as good players but we will be in first division or third division and don't need as good players.

Let them go, there will be others, and I for one support the club not individual players.

I think there may have been players who would give their right arm to play for the old Rangers set up but not this newco Get real

If they are still under contract, whether it be held by Rangers PLC or Rangers Ltd then they are under contract. They agreed a deal to allow them to leave for a cut price and that deal should be honored by both parties, bit disappointed in naisy, thought he owed us a season after we carried him through two serious injuries but good luck to both of them if or when the are transfered

JG

1) I think there are plenty that would want to play in front of 30,000 to 40,000 every second week, they may not be world beaters but good enough for SFL. Kevin Kyle for example was on the radio and said he had approached McDowall. Ok normally not the sort we would want but good enough for SFL league 1 or 3

Get real 40,000 won't be at ibrox every 2nd week, Celtic will be lucky to get that in SPL never mind rangers getting it in 3rd division.

24 Jun 2012 23:50:16
Let's all face it Rangers FC are dead. I have been going to since the sixties and will be going no longer. We fans are the mugs that Murray, Whyte, Green et al, need to make their dreams work. Their dreams are to make money at our expense, while our dreams involve winning games and some trophies they don't really care as long as we are paying. It should be that "he who pays the piper calls the tune", unfortunately we pay with no say in the club whatsoever. People like I have mentioned above only put up with us to hopefully line their pockets. Shut the place down, let Green sell the assets for a profit and move on with our lives. Anyone who renews, or even worse starts buying, their season ticket will be seen by Servco as someone who can be bled for all they are worth as a meal ticket for the "consortium". If Servco don't close us completely the blazers of Scottish football wil ensure a slow death of a thousand cuts. I am not walking away from Rangers, the club I supported has died. Like Naismith, I owe no loyalty or allegiance to Servco. Just play the national anthem and the last post cause we are finished.

Jackie

Well with "supporters" like you we will surely die in any form. I support Rangers, I don't support Murray, Whyte of Green but I DO support Rangers. My team plays in blue, white and red and they play at Ibrox. As long as they are there, I will be too. Guys like you will reappear in a few years time, they should call you a "glory hunter", not a fan.

Sorry you feel that way jackie, this death of a thousand cuts stuff can get demoralizing. My prediction: The Gers will still be around next season and I'm sure you'll be taking a wee peak at the 3rd (or where ever we play) divisions scores to see how we're doing, you won't be able to help yourself. after a bit of time, the wounds will heal and I hope you'll be proud to call yourself a Ger again.

Chin up pal,

Aye, Ready

2) I can hardly be called a glory hunter since I have been going to Ibrox since the sixties and have witnessed some miserable teams and footballers who have represented Rangers over that time but still supported through thick and thin. Unfortunately Green is looking for your type of supporter to come along and fill Ibrox and his pockets. Rangers are dead, the team playing at Ibrox next year is not Rangers. It is like saying AFC Wimbledon and Milton Keynes Dons are the same team. The both claim to be the original team but they aren't and neither are The Rangers FC.

@1 yes. That's the litmus test. Fans want to go and watch that team whoever is playing for them or owns them. I personally think it will be a good thing for fans to see how most other clubs' supporters feel, watching their team lose matches rather than cheering goals against clubs who can hardly afford to cut the grass.

M8 unfortunately thats how business works all any businessman cares about is profit.They wont drive me away to old to start supporting another team now i will just batting down the hatches and hope for the best.