Rangers Banter Archive October 25 2014

25 Oct 2014 22:28:08
Well, not sure what is left to say TBH. I can only feel that it is the death of Rangers, the club, and the start of Gers direct.
think I have had enough quite frankly!

What about emirates arsenal or etihad man city that's only two examples I could go on

JG

25 Oct 2014 19:30:31
Remember who brought Ashley into Rangers, yes GREEN. It is no surprise his offer accepted over others, what other asset has he secured against his loan?

Wullie this loan will be what makes Ashley's mind up, so he will now sit and watch things develop, so if intoxicated is full every week he will loan us money all the time but if fans stay away he will not be so keen to invest, but we must also remember that instead of us loosing 12 million a year we are now only losing 7 million a year due to mr Nash, mr Nash has now left the building but IDE imagine Ashley trying to take the credit for mr nashes work, don't be fooled if we stay away and avoid sports direct Ashley will maybe get the message as Ashley dreams about earning. Money IMHO

26 Oct 2014 07:38:29
@Pablos. So far the £7m loss per year figure is only hearsay. That may still turn out to be an accounting trick. And remember that the various income streams that used to be relied on, now flow much of the money to pplaces other than Ibrox so real income will also be down.

Whatever else MA does, he WILL enforce austerity on the company and that will be entirely unpleasant for everyone who works there or supports the team. Hard times they are a'coming.

25 Oct 2014 16:22:11
Just a thought mike Ashley's long term plan has got to be complete control of the club and I for one don't believe he would spend money on it for it not to be a success, fans groups are up in arms about him having stadium naming rights, merchandising deals if as I now believe his ultimate goal is to own rangers then he would have the naming rights etc, anyway at least he is putting his money into getting control albeit
Not directly which seems to me an attempt to starve the deadbeats in control now out the door, certain fans groups/media like to demonise Ashley but I say let have a chance and if he gets us on an even keel spends a few quid gets us back to talking about the team as opposed to the rats who have all but destroyed this this once great club of ours and if he makes a ton of money from merchandising great that to me will mean the support must be buying it which means they must be happy with the way the club was being run then we can all finally try and put the worst period of our long and proud history behind us, as I said at the start of this post it's just a thought a brilliant business man a the helm what's wrong with that

Why is he a brilliant buisness man?money wise yes. the guy didn't give king the courtesy of a fone call, he hasen't as much opened dialoge with fans?he didn't open his mouth when he took nameing rites for a £1. even if he pumps £30 million into rangers, he is still a snake. brilliant buisnessman?not to our club.

25 Oct 2014 17:40:00
Laudrup22 I see where you are coming from,but maybe he never returned Kings calls because he just doesn't rate the man. Ashley never got where he is by making courtesy calls,I would have liked them both to work something out,but not to be. If Ashley would be more forthcoming as to his intentions long term,who knows what his plans are?

If ashley was more fourth coming. it would put him in a bit of a better light with fans. but he is missing the point, we keep the club going as a viable buisness. now to unite fans, he has done nothing to apeese us in any form. the actual customers are being treated as fools with this man. and the easdales ahhhh. don't get me started. not even a consultation with fan groups. we are mugs to them, and going by the past and present, we will still be treated as mugs unless we hit them hard in the pocket. not ideal, no other option.

25 Oct 2014 19:01:19
Laudrup22 In all honesty mate,I wouldn't be surprised if Ashley gets shot a that pair of scavengers first chance he gets.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying he is entirely clean of character,but I think he may draw the line at working with crooks.

No what your sayn ggk. but end of the day, just swapin 1 bam pot for 1 way a big wallet.

Reading some the posts they are a lot of deluded bears out there when will they realiase nothing is for nothing that's why ashley is where he is at least so far he has not claimed to be a rangers man he is only interested in rangers as buisness not a financial inferno at least u know what he is about from the only reason was involved with green was to make money that's the nature of him what bears need realise that's what he is there for money and onley money

Wull61. there is no doubt ashley will give a little and take alot. to make money u have to spend money. i can't second guess m. k, but a stab in the dark says, he would need to spend money on team to win spl, which would be a catalist to bring fans back through the gates and buy shirts. would u agree?

Laudrup22 iMessage with you on this mate Ashley is treating us like any of his money makers he says now but just takes takes takes, any money he put into rangers will be loans just like new united, if he gets control at Broxburn he will never invest, nor. Will he ever be removed, why would he ever move on a permenant cash cow

Surely wood laudrup the one thing he would bring stability and hunt some deadwood even although we was involved with green i think he is only option left

Ashley will not invest in the club, he will "loan" the club money to amke them debt free, then he will ensure the club makes a profit for him every year same as Newcastle are now doing. Once that happens then he just sits and takes his money every year safe in the knowledge that he will get back all of initial input and when he sells the club to the next set of businessmen it will all be pure profit. This is what he has done with Newcastle, they owe him £200million, they are making £7-£10million a year profit, and he is taking a hefty chunk of that as the owner, and when he sells the club he gets back his "loan" so the club are effectively paying him 7-10million a year to eb the owner. very clever man. The same will be done with Rangers, the cost sutting will hit really hard initially until the club is ona n even keel, then he will loan a few more quid for players and when the club start to win matches, the fans come back so he has full stadium, merchandise. Oh and McCoist is gone, certainty, 800k a year, not a chance.

25 Oct 2014 15:03:09
The club is finished, it's inevitable, how long will this loan last? I will love the memories but enough is enough. Why fill these pockets? This nonsense has made a grown man cry. Game over. I give up.

The club was finished three years ago but like any really large animal it takes time for the knowledge of its death to travel through the system and reach the brain. The carcass has been being picked over by vultures since February 2012

25 Oct 2014 14:10:08
King offers 16m Kennedy 3m, they take 2m from Ashley. I give up

Mcc, you have just quoted sums of money with no details of what the investors' conditions are. So they mean absolutely nothing.

Most posters are forgetting one thing. Ashley hasn't proposed any long-term financial package, only a short-term loan simply because he isn't allowed to own more than 10% of Rangers. He can carry on making short-term loans which will keep his Sports Direct franchise going. King isn't dead yet.

25 Oct 2014 19:53:09
The King offer may not be dead but he's not going to take it forward with Ashley loading it up with debt. Current money covers Oct wages. The £2m will get us to the end of November with some income from matches, probably to the end of the year. More loans in January, February, March?

We need severe austerity first and foremost to cull the costs. Then we might be able to grow sustainably

Billy I heard that mr Wallace will be moved on, that was part of Ashley's loan agreement

25 Oct 2014 13:07:43
Honestly our manager has more faces than a full house at Ibrox. The manager reports today
we must not concern ourselves with what is happening off the field and just concentrate on on field matters Quality statement from the man that was saying through the week King and Ashley would be great for Rangers as I need new players must fill the team with confidence.

25 Oct 2014 05:01:13
the time has come for all fans to stand up and stay out of ibrox how on earth can board reject 16 mill then going get 3 million loan this is total disgrace i urge all rangers fans to turn the heat up on this board and ashley we are been tain for mugs no forwarding planning am so angered at what is going on at our club wake up fans time we stood up for our club.

25 Oct 2014 08:41:09
I certainly won't be back, was due to fly up this morning for the game i'm totally gutted but enough is enough, I was against such action thinking that every extra fan attending matches was contributing a little something to keeping us going, well I've woke up and the smell of coffee is overpowering, I really do hope other fans who were of the same opinion as me are waking this morning and reaching for the nescafe. Also was there any reason why Brian Kennedy was not part of the king bid having been an associate of Paul Murray in earlier attempts surely a joint bid would have carried more financial weight and possibly a more attractive offer to the board, although if it comes down to the size of your wallet I don't think anyone can touch Ashley. Sad and worrying days ahead.

25 Oct 2014 09:03:04
See all this boycott carry on it really annoys me what will it achieve in the end ? For me u turn up at games & let your feelings known. NO well the Newcastle fans don't want ashley but still 50,000 turn up every other week & SUPPORT THE TEAM think about it.

{Ed001's Note - and how has that helped get rid of him? Oh wait, it has done absolutely nothing.}

Don't understand why Kennedy couldn't have joined forces with King.

25 Oct 2014 09:29:18
John who says they are not connected and this is long planned strategy. Paul Murray has no personal wealth and he's representing Kennedys money in the King bid as well. This is a two prong counter measure to force Easedales hand. This is to further expose the corruption when he veto' s King & Kennedy for Mike Ashley because I believe Ashley has his money in the hedge funds aswell as his own 9% he is pulling the strings. I think Nash knows Sandy will veto everyone bar Ashley and has quit in frustration.

R. f. how many protests been at ibrox?seriously. these guys and shareholders think with their wallets and there own personal gain, that's obvious. The board have no major power a normal board should have, mr easdale in normal circumstances would have been kicked out by now, just through the embarassment he has brought on it, not to mention other board members.

25 Oct 2014 09:46:49
Ed001 eh! Once he gets a buyer he will be gone he knows he's not wanted incidently Ed in your wisdom what will boycotts achieve ? Other than hurt the team and lead to admin 2 .
r.f

{Ed001's Note - he will go when he has made his money and that is nothing to do with not being wanted, he knew that when he bought them. Do you know why he hasn't been able to find a buyer for Newcastle? You might want to check up some of the stipulations he is looking for regarding the club's merchandise. Not only is he looking to recoup all his money, even though he has received most of it back in free advertising and merchandising rights, he is looking to continue to receive free advertising and merchandising rights. Things that will cripple Newcastle for years. But he doesn't care, so long as he makes money.
As for what will a boycott achieve, they achieve the object of not putting more money in that fat thieving piece of steaming dog turd's pocket and forcing him to either sell up. No point in him having something that doesn't allow him to get fat off other people's hard work. It would allow the fans to have a say, as they would then take some of the power back. It is not ideal, but it is the only power the fans have left, is to stay away and not buy merchandise.}

25 Oct 2014 10:13:04
Laudrup22 I can understand everyone's point of view but again I ask the question what will boycotts achieve other than hurt the club ? Admin 2 I for one couldn't handle it, then you've got to ask the question as fans why didn't we all club together when we found out what green was up to and buy them/him out then Mr King or whoever could've came in and took over with at least 1/2 fans still on the board ?
r. f ps and don't say we have lined there pockets enough think what it would've cost back then and how much they have took since I recall green saying at the the time if someone offered 5/6 mil then he would go weight that up against what they have took from the club then you have to say it would've been a bargain.
r. f

The greasedales had no intention of letting king or Kennedy come on board.

Give green 5-6 million?i no he said that, but he said a lot of things, green smelt the cash, easy to say hard to prove but i think green would have held of for a lot more. why break even and walk away. your in buisness for profit not break even. boycott, protest is a last case scinareo, the board have deaf ears when it comes to the very people who keep it going with there hard earned cash ie. us. so in a nutshell going to ibrox and waving a red card is woefuly not near enough to push change.

Can understand why fans are boycotting and why some will but I just feel the best action is not to do this as I feel it only makes the situation worse and yes it can It may be the only power fans have but I feel it's a false power.

25 Oct 2014 10:46:02
I get your point Ed but I still think an all out boycott can only lead in one direction & that's admin 2 how about we all turn up in our thousands for the cup game v st. j when the team needs our support then for the next home game (and one only) no one enter the stadium at all then we can say this is what will happen its up to you ? Please say you like my idea this is killing me. :' (

{Ed001's Note - I don't see that having any effect, it is too late for half measures in my opinion.}

That sounds like it could make them think about things, a stadium with next to no home fans could highlight the situation.

One full boycott isn't going to put a dent in there armour. ud be talking full boycott till board go.

25 Oct 2014 20:19:50
I think with Nash gone & Wallace to follow we will see other board members going as ashley will bring his own people in as the weeks and months move on.
r. f

Rf Ashley has already got one on the board his name is easdale