Rangers Banter Archive September 25 2012

 

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25 Sep 2012 23:22:05
My team v Motherwell (4-1-3-2)... Alexander, Argryrou, Perry, Cribari, Wallace, Black, Mckay, MacLeod, Aird, Shiels, McCulloch.... SUBS Gallacher, Faure, Crawford, Hegarty, Stella, Sandazza.... Score 1-0 Rangers, agree/ disagree? LeJon WATP:)

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Black is out with a hamstring problem , and motherwell will rout us in a 3-0 win higdon is on fire

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Even with black that 11 you picked would get beat. Aird? Too soon. This game needs the Andy Little's and dare I say Kyle Huttons! The Greek is mince meat aswell. Give Darren Cole a chance at right back ffs.

Alexander
Cole, Cribari, McCullloch, Wallace
McLeod, Shiels, Black, Mckay
A. Little, F. Sandaza

I only picked Cribari because he is the most suited to partner McCulloch of the Centre Halfs

If Black is out I would play Hutton. He has dig, likes the physical side of the game and he wil be chomping at the bit aswell.

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We only have one Kyle Hutton and one Andy Little, so it is impossible to have multiples of them. Hate that phrase 'the Laudrups, the Gascoignes' etc

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25 Sep 2012 22:25:41
RANGERS UP IN EURO CROWN CHART.

RANGERS average attenance in the third devision is the 16th highest in european footnall despite being dumped to scotlands lowest tier. The have actually risen 3 places from 19th highest last season. The ibrox club have attracted an average of 46,738 to there leauge matches this season. up on last seasons average of 46,324 and more than ceptic 45,064. Rangers are also higher that manchester city and PSG. And they have smashed a world record for an attendance in fourth tier match.

These are great stats and show the loyalty of the fans are showing and with all this revenue and support surely we can rise to be a force again.

All we need is super ally to get this team playing with some more believe and i really can see it all coming together.

BCK BEAR

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I cannot know if the figures are true, the Rangers figure appears high and does the authorities measure such things?
Anyway surely it's the value of sales that's important? If one club charges twice the price of the other but only has a few thousand less turning up, they still have just under double the money.

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I was more than prepared to let this go as just a copy and paste of the statement and perhaps a well done bears congratulation but nope the temptation to write garbage overcame you.

It WASN'T a fourth tier world record, will that ever sink in?

Secondly and given that dosh has been more than a significant shaper of Rangers recent history it is vitally important. You were essentially paying half price for these games compared to Celtic (£28 to £15 on average). You need to nearly double Celtic's gate to make the same cash, that is the reality of the situation. The Celtic crowd tonight was poor, there is no disputing that, however these fans, a number of whom no doubt work beside some of you, shelled out £28 to £35 for Benfica followed by £28 for Dundee. £56 could more or less get you into Ibrox four times for the league or beforehand the Ramsden Cup.

So congratulate the fans on a great support to date, absolutely, but drop the world record claim and see it (in money terms) for what it is.

The past seven months have proved that cash has a significant impact on clubs and while the Rangers support has been tremendous to date they are bringing in comparitive washers on that list, I guarantee they made more money from 19th in the list last season.

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Glad you like it down there and maybe next year as you may still be in it cause dont think you will win league, you can come on and be happy that the only thing you could win or feel good about is your attendance, but let's just see how many stick around while ally can't win anything for you.

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And this will win you what exactly , ffs even ed is fed up listning to attendance tit for tat

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26 Sep 2012 07:06:41
binman says


Its equivalent of being the tallest dwarf

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True Celtic make more money but Celtic wages are significantly more than that of rangers wage bill

Jas

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Right to all the numbnuts Celtic fans who come on here slagging of all things rangers and trying to belittle us at every opportunity here what I think of your club. Wage bill 16 mil more than double rangers so your club needs to make double what rangers make. Secondly are you lot happy paying that by the poor showing of 10,000 for your game against raith I would assume not. Are we happy with what we are paying at least 40,000 for our game tonight and that's on telly so I would say we are. Sorry because I have tried to stay away from this side but you keep going with your nonsense you lot disgust me every time rangers or us fans do something positive you lot ridicule us your hate bitterness are truly the scurge of Scottish football. I know a certain part of your support tried to make sure rangers died completely tough it never worked so please could you stop obsessing over our team and worry about your own

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Well said mate, rangers fans are simply the best, proud of every single one of us, rangers then rangers now rangers forever, plus super allys a legend and will come good

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7) The OP referenced Celtic first and made a nonsense claim regards the fourth tier world record, if you think those things wont get jumped on you follow the wrong sport. Oh no our wage bill is £16m, where will we ever get that from? Oh wait from the money due to us from UEFA. Wages for the season covered by one tournament, can the same be said of the Ramsden Cup I wonder?

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Couldn't have put it better mate well said.

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@9 yeah statements like that will get jumped on but only because you lot are permanently on here obsessing about us you hate us that much you say we ain't the same club but you are constantly on here ready to pounce on anything you don't like. I bet there are no rangers fans over on your rumours site but that's no surprise as your team are boring as f,ck. and what did the Op say that p,ssed you of so bad he was only telling the truth or was it the fact he called you Ceptic lol

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25 Sep 2012 21:50:28


Charles Green in releasing his statement today has confirmed what many expected - THAT HE IS AS MAD AS A MARCH HARE.

He is playing a very, very, dangerous game here.

He has totally twisted what Lord Nimmo Smith has clearly stated for his desperate agenda of raising funds through a share issue.

Mr Green is Craig Whyte MKII.

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This guy must go, and now. weve been here before we dont need to turn up to prove we support our club. we are putty in this mans hand. he will totally ruin whats left of this once big club. no one has got to the bottom of our troubles yet. green must not continue he is no good and is nothing but trouble. there in this for themselves only. do not be kidded.

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Absolute rubbish!

Green is telling it how it is. He is 100% correct. You are the mad hare ya numpty

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Green 100% correct?

Well he certainly wasn't 100% correct on the players registrations. Or HMRC giving him the nod for a CVA. Or Rangers about to become the biggest club Adidas will have on their books etc etc etc.

And anybody who believes he is 100% correct all the time is a fool.

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To @2 are you really sure about that , cos if you are then we will be out the game sooner than i thought with idiots like you following him

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The. One thing Green has done is split the support , we have to stick together though his ratings are not helping in any of this another thing why should we listen to him when he has stated publicly he doesn't listen to the support and will do things as he likes, like not telling us his plans or his backers a very dodgy person me thinks!
Bobby

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26 Sep 2012 07:04:24
Binman says

This is unbelievable

The foundation of the law of Scotland - cherished and unblemished for centuries is the impartiality of the judiciary.

A snake oil salesman peddaling his bile in an effort to enrich himself has questioned the substance of the Noble Lord

Can't wait for the equaliser.

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As a outsider looking in and talking to a few gers fans ,have you heard the song .PUPPETS ON A STRING,i dont think i need say any more, BASHER,

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25 Sep 2012 20:42:21
What do you's think of the latest statement from Charles Green? That we shouldn't have been relegated and we have never ceased to exist?

http://www.rangers.co.uk/news/headlines/item/2291-charles-green-statement

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Think Charles is starting to get boring, think the Gers should appoint a spokesman who has a bit of discretion as some of Greens comments could come back and bite us
Bobby

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25 Sep 2012 19:48:03
Celtic fans a bit early for Halloween tonight with the green seat costumes , what a great attendance and loyal home support and yet they still go on and on about our club! It's laugh a minute way this mob!

gers1986

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Aye, but you spoil it by doing what they do. Forget about them, support our team, who cares what they do? Let their fans worry about them.

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All that matters is winning games on the park, being in the spl and champions league. It's nice you've only got attendances on your mind things must be so good over at Ibrox.

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You wanna take a good hard look at your club before making laugh a minute comments about Celtic. After Motherwell pump you tomorrow we'll see who's laughing then haha

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25 Sep 2012 22:30:37
Laugh a minute your bang on the button , it's the only reason i visit this site, pure comedy gold. After the most recent ramblings from your deluded owner it clearly shows he's as mad as a bag of weasels, iv'e never laughed as much since my granny got her t** caught in the mangle......Stevie

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Both sets of supporters seem to be arguing over attendances this season which only goes to show the level of hatred of sections of both fans. U can see why there was banter( a lot of it unsavoury) while the 2 teams were in the same league and challenging for the league but now?? It seems that certain old firm fans will always find something to snipe at each other and even if it was announced that the world was ending tomorrow they would still be more interested in having a go at each other. The issue of empty seats at most grounds in Scotland is down to 3 things

1. Poor product
2. Over pricing
3. The endless recession

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25 Sep 2012 22:44:10
And you say we're obsessed. Ironic thing is that even our small attendance tonight could raise as much cash as your game against QoS last week. I had a ticket for tonight but couldn't make it due to flooding in Perth. We're actually taking the piss out of you by turning up in small numbers for lower rate games and still raking it in.

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Lets stop banging on about attendances its great the cowds we get and i hope it lasts do the spl miss us i couldnt give a dam if they do or dont but i will be honest i dont miss the spl nor will i miss old firm games i am enjoying this journey im happy and looking forward not back ;;Cooperboy

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5) While I agree with you and on your reasons for poor attendances, the reality is Rangers fans cant bleat about European woes or joys, cant realistically get involved in a league slanging match, short of the two domestic cups we are talking night and day here. That leaves the balance sheet...erm no, a Govan bypass on that one too. Okay attendances, ahhh we can win that one (even at near half price).

So short of gloating on how well their guy is doing in a Subbuteo league then they really don't have much to be singing about. So their average of 1,674 fans more per home game is all they have (average income of both - Celtic £1,261,792, Rangers - £701,070) Over half a million quid a game more, enjoy your huge crowd scalp Gers, even if it is a Pyrrhic victory.

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25 Sep 2012 19:03:46
So that's Rangers fans and now Scotland fans that Naismith has let down. Well done son.

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25 Sep 2012 18:38:56
Charles Green saying it as it is, the SFA and the east end bhoys sitting hand in hand won't like this one bit.

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Somebody please explain to me what celtic have to do with rangers troubles? Messers Murray and whyte were the problem. Fans like you who look to blame everyone need to realise this. All you harp on about is lawell celtic sfa. Don't see any of you knocking on murrays door asking why?

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1. You are right about Murray and Whtye being totally to blame for what's happened to the club and its astonishing how light both seem to have got off with this. No matter what you think of Rangers it's solely down to these 2 people that we are in this mess. If there was any justice both men would be sharing a cell in Barlinnie however it looks like they will get off scot free

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@1&2, you are the ones who are right and would find all your answers there and are the fans most feel sorry for, but to the op you say the sfa and Celtic are working together and all but is it not your former board member(who probably would never work/lisen with a hoops person) is in charge of it? If you know your former club, is he not a big part in this mess that your club is in for he was part of it was he not? But then again most of yous don't like facts and only like ppl(cg) making things up to rally the supporters who don't like to think for themselves.

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25 Sep 2012 16:54:08
All this who grassed naisy rubbish.the boys a dirty coward fir what he done,sfa should have taken action for it after iy happened. Is this the example we want our kids set? Rooney got 3 games for a kick out this should be 5 at least.


Inverbear

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I don't see any comments about "who grasses naisy" you on crack?

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Well said mate. SFA should have hammered him instead of cover up and hunt the honest guy. SFA very dodgy.

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25 Sep 2012 19:41:30
Hi Ed struggling to new post had to use this method hope that is ok.
I posted before that I thought CG was gearing up to take the bankrupt SPHELL to court I think this is what you call turning up the heat!
East Bear
In a statement, Mr Green said: "Lord Nimmo Smith has said that Rangers FC is a recognisable entity which continued in existence notwithstanding the change in ownership.

"He also stated that Rangers FC, the club, includes its owner and operator. The commission has in effect ruled that Rangers and its history did not die on 14 June despite numerous reports to the contrary.

"This means that Rangers FC and its owner, ie me and my consortium, remained a member of the SPL even after the change of ownership.

"The bemusing part is that no-one at the SPL or SFA appeared to realise that. The SPL made the club (including its owner and operator) reapply to be a member of a league that the commission says it was in already."

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25 Sep 2012 20:17:30
Jist because he walked away there is no need to insult the boy.

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No need to try put the elbow in anyone off the ball.total disgrace. nothin to do with club alegence.sfa done gregs nd barry for givin the finger short memories the boy should never represent his country again.that was nothin short of assalt do that in the street nd ud get the jail.
Inverbear

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25 Sep 2012 22:31:36
@5 If Naismith was still playing for your team you would be defending him to the hilt. You have very short memories as the boy was a right good player for you. Hk

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Naismith elbowed a dunfermline player last season, was caught on camera, then accepted a charge and given a 2 game ban. At the time he apologised and said he didn't mean it. Less than a year later he is at it again, so it's clear he hasn't learned anything from it and wasn't telling the truth when apologising. So I don't see what's wrong with anyone calling for him to be punished

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It's time Green and some of our fans got real. Rangers FC were liquidated or should I say are about to be. As a consequence we lost our SPL licence and indeed any licence we had, we had to apply for a new licence which saw us in the 3rd div. which a lot of our fans wanted, though I didn't. If the SFA did wrong it was to try and get us into 1st div. that was for their own reasons which we all know about. I suppose I am glad we got a licence at all and when that happened I hoped we would have a fresh start and the new management would try and get us back to the top with some pride and a bit of respectable pride and show the world how great our club and fans really are. There are those amongst us who feel the club did no wrong not the fans but the club. It is the club and fans who are suffering now and there will always be a price to pay for previous mis-management, as have poeple and businesses who lost lots of money because of previous misdemeanors . The latest issues about EBT's and dual contracts have not been resolved yet they won't affect the new club if they are found guilty and we must accept the consequences of what happens. C G is not helping us in any way by his outbursts he should be helping the commission, hopefully we will come out of this with some respect and not blame every one else for what has happened. Green himself has lots to answer to the fans he hasn't been honest with us. Let's all get this club back to its greatness at the top of the pile and stop the vile campaign to blame everyone else but ourselves.
Bobby

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Well said bobby

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25 Sep 2012 13:15:43
ian black a doubt for tomorrow night

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Probably knows he will get found, he's been garbage for us so far.

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You cant judge any of the players under McCoist

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@1, he playing hide and seek?

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25 Sep 2012 13:11:29
let forget about it and get on with task in hand we will be back stronger in three years

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Looks like a team thats getting stronger, if we win against motherwell might change my mind, if we get put out 2nd cup in a week, its going to take alot longer than we expected

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25 Sep 2012 08:50:34
Why oh why is it so difficult for the sevconians to see that the SFA/SPL have did nothing but try to help them stay in the SPL or jump into the First division when they have no right to even be in the third?

The "illegal" punishment was a desperate attempt to avoid the proper sanctions, sanctions that Rangers had signed up to, as that would have meant suspension or expulsion from the league.

What exactly is it they are accussing them of doing?

Oh and please, enough of this embarrassing paranoia about Celtic having taken control of Scottish football. That really is the last squeals of a desperate support if ever I heard it.

Please, dry your collective eyes, accept your punishment, and for heaven's sake GROW UP !!

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Still missing us i see

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Can't you see that the sfa/SPL did everything to try and keep sky happy nothing else

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Even to the most simple minded person. If you are accused of something u have the right to be tried fairly? U don't try and railroad people into accepting a punishment before guilt has been proven? Course if you think that's ok then it's lucky u ain't a judge. I am sure if you were accused of something u would expect to be given a fair hearing

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Op come on grow up the SPL and SFA never tried to keep us in the SPL or div 1 for our benefit they tried it for there benefit because they had to punish us but did not want to lose the money we brought in. At the end of the day this is where we wanted to be and the support rangers fans are giving the team proves this. As rangers fans we want nothing from the SPL or SFA except to show them for what they are self centred greedy egotistical and morally corrupt and before you say just like DM and CW correct we have had our dirty laundry aired in public now it's time they had there's we have had to change and now so will they. Now I know that might sound bitter but its not is true because if the whole of Scottish football doesn't change it will be lost forever and that is the biggest sin of all. The SPL has killed Scottish football it's no coincidence that Scotland have never qualified for a major tournament since the invention of the SPL

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@3. The document was drawn up with Duff and Phelps representing the old, in administration Rangers and with Charles Green representing Sevco.
The information that is available is significant, that would stand to reason why it was incorporated into the talks, for the purposes of efficiency.

In terms of the hearing, Rangers and Sevco have chosen to take any part.

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Well said comment 3. Guy obviously doesn't realise that half the reason immigrants come here, is becuase we live in a democracy!

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Charlie greens only interest is hard cash,he is playing a blinder and the fans are that blind to see it,his talk of renaming murray park,25 year contract for ally,bigotry claim against rangers,constant defiance against the sfa have all been done with one simple agenda in mind,fans trusting him to part with their cash....charlie aint defending rangers,hes defending himself and his investors .

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What investors??

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@7 this is what all good chairmen do tell the supporters what they want to hear so they will part with there cash so exactly what is your point CG will only get a good lump of cash from rangers if he gets us back to the SPL and if he does that he has done what he said he would and deserves his cash. A lot more than your lot according to you lot you have or will make about 80mil this season a wonder where that cash is going and you have the hard neck to call us gullible

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OP.. Making up rubbish, trying to ruffle a few feathers?
"oh for heavens sake" haha, sound like a girl pal.
We'll grow up when you man up.

Dtp89
BF1 the mawra, bring on the well.

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25 Sep 2012 08:41:14
Statement from Alistair Johnston
"Justice must be served, but the punishment must fit the crime,"
"Use of EBT schemes were broadly adopted by a variety of businesses during the era prior to them being specifically outlawed by designated legislation introduced only a couple of years ago.
"Also, as has been widely reported, Rangers made absolutely no attempt to disguise or deny their adoption."

It is very evident what he's trying to do here. However, as has already been documented, it's not the EBT's scheme in itself that is the issue, and yes it was declared in Rangers books, it's how it was implemented; using one contract for a % of a players wages, being subject to NI, PAYE etc deductions then another contract for the rest of a players wages, win/appearance bonus, signing on fees, golden goodbyes etc etc. EBT's were to be used to pay non contractual payments.
Gavin Rae's case is clear, Billy Dodds has already slipped up on more than one occasion, Boumsong couldn't sleep at night. Need I go on!

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AJ was the last CEO who led rangers into administration and liquidation.
He is an EBT cash taking tax evading scoundrel. As CEO he administered and paid out the EBT scheme, he ran the strategy.
He racked up impossible indebtedness and Lloyds had to put in guys to run it properly.

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If The Gers had run the EBTs properly they would have nothing to fear, but Guys in any line of business don't get paid £millions without being taxed so they are definately in the wrong. I don't want to see titles stripped but if we are found to have breached rules the oldco will be punished not CG he has already said he was never in SPL so it got nothing to do with him. Let's give it a rest till we se the outcome and just keep supporting the Gers.
Bobby

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If Boumsong has a problem, perhaps he should make sure he gets a night shift job, that would remove his little problem.

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25 Sep 2012 00:57:13
So are all you rangers fans looking
forward to a big spl team going to
ibrox on wednesday,must be the
highlight of the season so far,just to
let u know if yous get knocked out
that will be 6 cups ally has failed in
so far in his illustrallous reign
rangers 1 motherell 3

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Why do you care?

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To be fair they are the top team in scotland at the present. Top of the league and that, would have been better off wi an easier draw wi celtic.

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And how many has Lenny the managerial maestro failed in exactly?

BB1

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U missed the stroke off the one. i mean i assume u meant rangers four, motherwell 3. even septics cant be that tim, i mean dim

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Even though our form has undoubtedly been substandard I really do feel we have better players than Motherwell, who even with McCall as manager have never really impressed me that much anytime they've played us, so with home advantage I would fancy Rangers to progess to the next round. Just.

BARNEY BEAR

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I watched Well against Aberdeen. Can't see how they can lose.

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