Rangers Banter Archive December 26 2017

 

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26 Dec 2017 23:32:21
We might still as well have Forrester and MOH in the squad than Dalcio and Nemane, makes sense to me. I'd also like to see Pena playing at the tip of a diamond tomorrow with Holt/ Jack in the middle and Ross behind.



27 Dec 2017 02:44:20
Glad your no the manager



27 Dec 2017 11:43:56
Pena playing at the tip of a diamond, Pena needs the tip o someone's foot up his arse



27 Dec 2017 22:22:29
Why not? It’s what gave us 3-0 v Aberdeen and then for some strange reason he changed it. He’s an idiot, Kenny Miller couldn’t stand to see the team playing well without him so he did his shadow puppet master bit and text his pal Murty and said rip it up now get Pena off.



26 Dec 2017 17:49:39
I can't see why the board are getting such a hard time.
1. They got rid of Mcoist
2. Brought in Warburton
3. We upgraded the squad.
4. We got promoted
5. Invested again.
6. Sacked Warburton
7. Got rid of Ashley
8. Took risk on Pedro
9. Invested again.
10. Sacked Pedro.
11. Mcinness bottled it.
12. Murty - low risk wise choice at this point in season
13. We will invest again.
14. They have slowly rebuilt our club from scratch.
The board, support, players and managers have had there fair share of bad luck, with injury, dubious red cards, smashed noses, clubs not willing to sell etc etc We are not where we should be (6 months off) overall but not one particular persons fault. This blip will bottom out soon and hopefully we can have a good finish to the season and rebuild in Summer 2018. 2018/ 2019 we should be able to compete with Celtic, get into Europe and put the rest out of sight once and for all. To do that however we need to stick together and shout even louder when the chips are down. Now is not the time to feel sorry for ourselves, I say bring it on. The day will come when we are champions, you all know that deep down, so it will be so much sweeter knowing what we have been through as a club.
Off to put my flak jacket on and no i'm not drunk) )



26 Dec 2017 19:26:01
We rebuilt the squad this summer, £8-9m spent. How many signed then are playing just now? We've got 7-8 players in first team squad doing sweet fanny Adams. We'll need to get rid of them somehow. We've got a under 20s coach as manager till the end of season. We've every right to complain about this. And to blame the board (king) for this mess. We shouldn't feel sorry for ourselves but we should be angry at how our club is being run.



26 Dec 2017 21:12:50
Hey Blueberry. Most teams have players sitting getting money for nothing, part and parcel of being a big club so let's put that one to bed. Weve rebuilt nearly every summer on the way back so let's put that to be also. I don't understand what you would have the board do. How about constructive criticism. What exactly is your complaint, how is the club being run badly. The only complaint we have is that result have been poor, that's it. It was only a couple of years ago we were beaten 6-1 by Motherwell in the play offs. We are now 3rd in the SPL, just behind Aberdeen which we beat back to back and Celtics 52.07 million pound squad. Perspective lad, perspective. Blip, that's all. Use your energy on the opposition.



26 Dec 2017 19:49:44
Obviously by the name you'll be able to tell I'm a Celtic fan. Generally would like to see you alongside every other team in the league strengthen. The stronger you are the better we have to be to win the league the higher chance of progress in Europe (no pun) .

I agree with most of your comments your board had invested in your club (in the form of soft loans) . But these guys are taking risks with (no offence) a club that has nothing at present to give. Which brings me to my next point. The fact you think you'll compete next season is ridiculous this mentality of being the same standard of club you were 6 years ago is ridiculous. You weren't competing for league or Scottish cups when you were in the 3rd division through and other than the final with Hibs haven't looked likely to win any big trophy in Scotland in the last 5 years. The point i'm trying to make is I think you should be realistic and look at a long term goal 5 years to compete.

The board and some fans are making crazy statements of European football in the foreseeable future. I've watched for the last few seasons as my team scrape into Europe. We're heads and shoulders above the rest of the league at the moment and I'm happy to make you aware that at present your no where near the standards to negotiate the early qualifiers never mind even enter the CL.

Point that I'm trying to make think rangers as club need to get a realistic target of 5 years to really compete. 8 years for proper champions league football. And instead of making up money they don't have, start spending wisely and developing players wisely before they head to liquidation version 2. This can only benefit yourselves and the rest of Scottish football. Looking forward to the game next week.



26 Dec 2017 21:30:43
Tjbb we as a club can not afford to have high earners in the reserves and on bench this is only a luxury celtic can afford we need value for money
Player recruitment has been poor from the board along with there choice of managers only now have we got some scouts on board



26 Dec 2017 21:31:09
TJBB, if nothing else, I really do admire your optimism. Only 6 months behind schedule hahaha.



26 Dec 2017 22:00:24
Before administration McCoist had us 12 clear of Celtic, wonder how it would have panned out if it wasn’t for that



26 Dec 2017 22:16:41
Craig8688 what players were recruited by the board and what high earners play in the reserves.
4leafclover, I never eluded to Champions league. Europa for now.
Compete with Celtic, ie be close and give you a game not win the league by 25 points.
Struth1872 - Your tag has, two of, arguably the most important words in the history of Rangers. Live up to your tag! Pessimism is not in our makeup.
No offence bears, just opinions. All the best and hope you all having a great Christmas.



26 Dec 2017 22:58:10
TJBB if you are looking for perspective, how about we are struggling in third despite our wage bill being higher than aberdeen, hearts and hibs combined?

We are 20 games into a season and the only real performances we can hang our hat on are two against the sheep and hearts away. you are happy with that standard are you?

we sacked a manager and took six weeks to then give it to an inexperienced u20 coach whos win ratio isn't any better than the guy we binned. this is despite our DOF saying he had a list two days after pedro was gone and the board saying themselves at the AGM they were working on it.

A year and a half back in SPL you are damn right i expect us to be sitting comfortably in second, not crossing our fingers we will even be there come the end of the season.

in terms of signings, board maybe didn't make them, but they are rubber stamped by them and identified by people they chose to take the club forward. so far they have a zero percent success rate at choosing a capable manager.

we need to grow as a club on the park, which of our highly paid squad would you describe as assets? il give you mccrorie and morelos as maybe having sell on value. outside of that?

the investment you talk of from the board isn't a goodwill gesture, these guys will see that they get their money back and a large part of the outlay has been incredible support in terms of season tickets that they have managed to see pissed up the wall.

there is a difference between pessimism and having genuine, heartfelt concerns about the direction the club are going. i choose to voice mine and not continue to give the board free passes on cock up after cock up. in my humble opinion it is far more dangerous to sit and ignore how things are spouting "its only a blip" a blip doesn't last a few years mate otherwise its then become a trend. will we still be saying don't panic when we are sitting no better off in a season or two? because that's a very real possibility.



26 Dec 2017 23:18:33
The board rubber stamped all the deals for the players we currently have and spent big money on some of cause of there lack of scouting network so had to take the managers opnion on players he wanted
We have had alves pena herrera kranjcar rossiter cardoso all sitting on the bench or in the reserves at some point
We basicaly will have the same squad as in the championship if all loan players come back so that doesn't look like progress on a good front



26 Dec 2017 23:36:40
TJBB. I think your perspective is good and it's wise to take a step back and see if there has been / is material improvement yoy. It's fair to say that we have progressed and the board should be congratulated for their efforts thus far.

However, we are an omnishambles currently and the latest debacle re the managerial appointment is the icing on the cake for many it would appear. It may be there is a reason that cannot be publicised for our current status. I hope so because if not, I fear for the present never mind the future.

The club has lost dignity and is not operating with class. The PR is utterly atrocious and our board's arrogance is sometimes astounding. There is toxicity at Ibrox. The current squad is - for whatever reason - not performing. There are some good players in there but we are mentally brittle and physically weak. Watching us play is painful. Strangely, we are still 3rd in the league.

Despite all this, and like most of us I suspect, I'll be supporting them until we get back on track - and beyond. I strongly suspect that this will take longer than any of us imagined. But it will happen.



26 Dec 2017 23:39:38
Marco C Rangers were 4 pts behind Celtic when they went into administration but why bring accuracy into it when rambling nonsense will do eh?



26 Dec 2017 23:42:58
TJBB, when King strolled into town he made it known publicly how disappointed he was that the squad had no value. The squad had been assembled with bosmans and around half the squad left that season for free. Kind was raging and blamed Warburton and the previous board - all do e publicly through the media.

Well not only has the squad not performing well in the league, the value of the squad is plummeting under his watch! It's going to cost us a fortune to offload a lot of these guys.

Then the board stated that we had to have a director of football so that if a manager left, we had continuety and retained a certain style of football. They then employed a manager before a dof and allowed him to bring in a host of players that no sensible manger would want to keep. They told us they were bringing in a dof to prevent this exact scenario then within a month allow it to happen.

The board may be Rangers men with the best interests of the club at heart but they are totally incompetent and should stand aside. I wouldn't suggest for a minute that they should sell up, but they shouldn't be making the day to day decisions of the operating of the club and certainly shouldn't be broadcasting it through the media the way they are currently.



27 Dec 2017 01:27:39
TJBB. I do realise it's all about opinions and I agree with a lot of yours but again you join that wonderful group of Rangers fans who say Derek McInnes bottled it. How long are we going to have to listen to that crap. You have no idea why he said no but to keep face saying that he bottled it seems a good idea. He didn't bottle it!



27 Dec 2017 08:26:52
Aye Gazo but we had been 12 points ahead. Obviously the imminent threat of admin had a terrible effect on the club, as you would expect.



27 Dec 2017 10:13:42
Tjbb I think the least we should expect from the board is some kind coherent plan. Surely if you sack a manager, you shouldn't take 5-6 weeks to make an approach for a new one? Was McInnes the ONLY manager worth considering? Is he a better manager than say Tommy Wright? . 3 years down from taking ownership of the club, are we any further forward? I still HOPE we get second and maybe even win Scottish cup this season but.



27 Dec 2017 10:48:11
Guys n Gals. Plenty of passion there and good debate. let's hope we have something to shout about tomorrow. ATB



28 Dec 2017 12:48:10
The Seeker, you started haemorrhaging points in November, if I remember correctly this wasn't even getting whispered till late January, so sorry, I'm not buying it. Losing Naismith to injury was probably more of an impact but you had McCoist in charge, that in itself could make a 16 point swing in no time.



26 Dec 2017 17:16:00
Duncan Ferguson for gaffer. Thoughts?

I think he'd sort out and improve performance levels which is exactly what we need.



26 Dec 2017 20:15:16
Or even as no2



26 Dec 2017 14:13:07
Here we go again on this. People bashing the manager on this. He may not have been he first choice but he's here and making an effort to pick up the pieces of the last few manager. Instead of having a go how about you all get behind him. No wonder our home record is poor with you lot. Rangers football club for me has always been a family, that's why we always have so many former. players visiting and speaking kindly of us But recently our fans have been rubbish. We moan when something doesn't go our way. So how about we get behind our team and be the 12th man.



26 Dec 2017 14:52:35
It’s the boards fault but he’s not the man for the job. He’s been in charge for 9 games and lost 4. Aye he managed to break the 3 game hoodoo but we are worse than when we had Pedro, that is fact. No point in beating Aberdeen and Hibs if you are going to undo it all vs bottom half teams.

We are a shambles.



26 Dec 2017 14:55:50
Ps. You must be having a laugh about the fans? We are paying more than anybody in the league to watch sheer dross. The fans have been very patient. It doesn’t matter how good or bad a Rangers team is, the home fans are very demanding and if the players can’t handle that then they need to be shown the door. It’s the same at Celtic or any other big club. Another sold out game tomorrow, if the team don’t turn up again then why should the fans not express their opinions?



26 Dec 2017 15:08:32
its the attitude of "just shut up and blindly support the team" that King is banking on. He knows the level of loyalty within our fanbase and is hoping we just continue to put up with sub standard management of the club. I feel we are actually at a major crossroads at the moment, very dark days ahead if we continue the path we are on. We need to speak up and be vocal that the way things are is entirely unacceptable



26 Dec 2017 20:43:12
Look at our home and away record. We've lost more at home than we have away which shows it's got to be something at ibrox. Maybe if we got behind the team instead of booing or groaning at every Mispass we would get better results at home. I'm not saying people can't express their opinion, I'm saying maybe we should be more constructive than just booing our club and our players. The player will be scared to to put through that killer ball at home in case they get slaughtered for it. These guys are just normal people too and to the put up or shut up comment, King and co might not be running the club the way we want but if hadn't took over the club then there was the chance we wouldn't have a club at this minute.



27 Dec 2017 10:30:52
Sorry, Dc1990, I'm not taking the blame for the team being honking.

Also, I do wish people would give us a break with the romanicisation of the club. Your comment, "Rangers football club for me has always been a family, that's why we always have so many former. players visiting and speaking kindly of us" applies to just about every club.



27 Dec 2017 12:44:35
So how can you explain our home record then? We have put in some good performances away from home. It's the the number of fans in the stands who are at times toxic. Obviously everyone is entitled to an opinion. Mines is that we have some toxic fans (like other clubs) who spout toxic negative pish constantly and sing toxic songs which get our club into trouble. If you were a footballer and were offered a contract at rangers why would you want to come if you knew a portion of your support were so negative. People on here were slating Derek Mcinnes before he was even contacted about the job. People on here slated Pedro 2 games into his reign. Ill probably get slated on this and you know what who cares.



26 Dec 2017 11:13:37
Having posted the other day that we should go get Monk I've had a re-think. It would just make a further mockery of our club if we went back on our word that Murty has got until the end of the season. For me it would just confirm that our board are amateurs and a total shambles.

I still think Monk is a great option but I think we need to stick with Murty for as lobg as we've offered him.



26 Dec 2017 19:47:58
He has lost four out of nine games what happens if we lose tomo then lose to Celtic what do we do then? that will be four losses in a row far worse than warbs or Pedro so were would we go from there? If we sack him does he go back to under 20s then who runs the team? Do we keep him and then rush for new manager or do we leave him in charge what on earth would we do? And how bad does it look for the board after paradeing him around just last week. For me it was a terrible decision to appoint him and not bring a new manager in.



26 Dec 2017 11:10:43
Anyone wonder where we would be right now if Bill Millar got the club? Given that he walked after the fans "yanks not welcome" banners. Just a thought.



26 Dec 2017 11:27:26
Robert Sarvar too.



26 Dec 2017 15:19:23
Gers made a big mistake by turning down down the yank, we would have been in a much better place today!



26 Dec 2017 18:44:56
Pure speculation, we could just as easily be in a worse place



26 Dec 2017 19:50:56
yanks not welcome banners was totally ridiculous still to this day I don't understand why they did that. That's what eventually let green and co in the door



27 Dec 2017 00:35:14
That's what happens when fans get involved in things they know less than nothing about. We'll never know because he was hounded by a rabid bunch of morons, so now we are where we are. Anyone want to blame King or the board or the players for that? To see oorsel's as ithers see us, people.



27 Dec 2017 10:33:43
Was it not the fact that he saw the financial black hole that made him walk away rather than some insulting fans?



26 Dec 2017 09:36:39
If you could take 3 players in who would they be realistic targets
Naismith, hyndman and bent I'd be happy with.



26 Dec 2017 10:13:48
I see they are looking at bringing Halliday back and O, Halloran well if this is the standard of player we can afford it'll be a long hard season Halliday was never good enough he has hardly got a game for his club recently and will not improve our midfield we already have to many journeyman players we need players who can change games put their foot on the ball and run a game Ohalloran is a speedy player but I just don't think he can handle the pressure at Rangers when he played he was poor not what I expected from him i think this shows just how hard up we are going back to players who have been tried but failed



26 Dec 2017 10:18:12
Kenny mclean. sondre rossback. alec schalk



26 Dec 2017 10:32:58
Imo we need a winger or possibly two, a no.10 type player, a central defender and a striker! I'd want jack hendry (centre half dundee),
jamie murphy (winger brighton),
jordan jones (winger kilmarnock), mulumba (midfielder kilmarnock), emerson hyndman (midfielder bournemouth),
darren bent (striker derby county)!



26 Dec 2017 10:58:26
Merry Xmas indeed!
Where does the money come for all of the names being thrown around? As well as the huge list? Of sugar daddies who apparently want buy the club (but also keep their names hidden!, )
We are skint guys! Live with it! 3rd would be a good finish this year the way we are going.
Let's hope there's a Happy New Year to look forward to as it's hard going as it stands



26 Dec 2017 12:05:59
I expect a few of the Bosmans to be confirmed for summer only and maybe 1 of them will come in Jan. from Naismith, McLean, Walker and we will try and get Jones from Killie and Hendry from Dundee but reckon Hendry will go to Celtic.



26 Dec 2017 13:00:27
The posts on here are pie in the sky we have no money we have an U20s coach as manager we have wasted millions on two inept managers, if the DOF is correct he had a list of names two days after Pedro was sacked it took us over six weeks to get back to a temporary manager till end of season, even Kilmarnock could fill their post in less time with a manager who has managed in the EPL who has completely transformed the team bringing in some cracking players we are getting a couple of loaned players back who will change nothing
It's time the board was honest with us the fans have rolled up every week filling the ground and deserve better this team is probably the worst team I've seen in over thirty five years of following let's see the crowd on Wed, people are getting fed up with this, the players owe the manager and fans a performance but I won't hold my breath waiting for it I will be there on Wed but even my patience is wearing thin and I'm pointing my finger straight at this circus of a board



26 Dec 2017 14:40:28
I hear Wednesday is a sell out. Tells you everything about the Rangers supporters



26 Dec 2017 14:51:21
Answering the initial question - jones from killie, Naismith but only on loan initially and Hyndman. Don’t get the abuse Andy Halliday gets on here and from a lot of rangers fans. Honest player and I would welcome him back to boost the squad.



26 Dec 2017 15:13:00
Would take that allan lewis



26 Dec 2017 15:23:25
Halliday might get on with the Rangers support does that mean he is a good player NO he is crap



26 Dec 2017 17:06:26
Halliday has proved he can play. His game against Peanut Heid in that cup semi-final proved that. His main problem is he is far too casual on the ball. If he can eradicate this I think he would definitely add something



26 Dec 2017 17:17:44
Messi, Neymar, Ronaldo lol



26 Dec 2017 19:52:06
Wiess Naismith Adam



26 Dec 2017 23:34:52
I don't get the fascination with McLean. Bossed in the middle of the park twice in a few days by what we currently have. I'd take Bent short term, he's a proven striker and could play off Morelos. As for Halliday? I'd take him back in a heartbeat some may not rate him but at least he roles his sleeves up and gets stuck in for the cause



 
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