Rangers Banter Archive January 26 2012

 

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26 Jan 2012 23:14:45
To the guy that slated Jelavic for having scored only 12 goals from open play this season with 5 penalties! Perhaps you should ask Samaras about the pressure of sticking them away from the spot! A goal is a goal and despite being off-form due to the endless speculation he still remains top scorer with Davis top for assists. If Hooper is worth 9 million then Jelavic has to be also especially as he also brings others into play and is not just a poacher.
Nicko1872

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Jelavic is worth 6 million maximum. Look at the amount of goals he's scored since he turned pro 10 years ago.

66 career goals. Hardly a 9 million striker, lol.

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26 Jan 2012 22:50:45
this is about jelavic he has scored 5 pens this season out of his 16 goals so that acounts 11 open play that aint good anuf all he does is keep droping short pick up the ball have a wee run then gets caught on ball wee need a player in the box two score goals not out in the left an right wing boyd is our man he will get us goals if wee could we should keep jela an get boyd in they two wud destoy the teams we have droped points agaisnt

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26 Jan 2012 22:38:28
My god! Rangers have had more trials that the Old Bailey.

If the trial is unsuccessful they'll not even get their BFH.

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26 Jan 2012 22:06:20
just heard craig whyte spoke to karen brady and told her he wanted 10m for jellavic but brady said 5m was her final offer.whyte then asked her to at least meet him in the middle,so she told him to meet her in manchester tomorrow but it was still 5m!! green jhedi(reproduced with bhaldricks kind permission)

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Have to admit pmsl

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26 Jan 2012 21:56:28
If we manage to win four in a row it will no doubt be the biggest title win ever due to what's going on with all this tax bill crap and the fact we are struggling to even offer trialists contracts etc. But I have no doubt we can do it if every single player wants it and we as fans get behind them from now til the end of the season.

We are the people!

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26 Jan 2012 21:41:24
Kris Boyd is a goal machine any body that doesn't rate him must be off there head if he comes you will know what your getting un like Beattie Ortiz Healy so Boyd is the safe bet and all you people should know it

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How many goals as he scored since he left the Gers ?, Is he going to come back the same player ?

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To paraphrase the bionic man"he's bigger,fatter,lazier" green jhedi

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26 Jan 2012 21:04:40
.....Important Sponsorship Announcement.......

It has just been announced that Mr Whyte has signed a major deal with the Disney Organisation
after all he "disnae pay this bill" and he "disnae pay that bill" Ouch!
And of course all the trialists are all Mickey Mouse signings LOL Timalloy

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Ha ha nice one

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26 Jan 2012 20:49:24
Wits going at IBROX its oot of order SORT IT OOT WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS and proud of it ! We Deserve to know Deserve better cw

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You should probably try making sense before you post.

Drew

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Classic rant mate .... Senseless but pure classic

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26 Jan 2012 20:37:48
As a season ticket holder for nearly 15 years, I am becoming increasingly frustrated with the way our great club conducts it's business. Our professionalism was never questioned when David Murray was in charge. Why do we continue to invite players for trial when there is no funds to offer a contract. We are fast becoming a laughing stock. 1986jay

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Get a grip it was murray's f*** ups that got us in to this mess.

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To late.....you already are a laughing stock.green jhedi

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26 Jan 2012 20:12:28
A lot of fans forgetting one thing. Craig Whyte is probably not too worried about finishing second this season because it still guarantees Champions League qualification.

So in an ideal scenario we win the tax case, sell Jelavic
after the Euros and qualify for Champions League.

That would allow us to spend a bit of money.

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What about the poss euro ban? either for admin or audited accounts not submitted? you are wading thru treacle! in whyte you trust?

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You will be banned from europe for 3 years...no CL I'm afraid.

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Nae europe if we go bust matie

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Do your homework mate.

Oranjeboom

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1 year euro ban for adminstration, 3 years ban for insolvency. Accounts audited not signed off by accountants Deloits due to tax case, which wouldnt give a true reflection of the financial situation at Rangers. It wouldn't be Craig Whyte's decison not to submit audited accounts, it would be the accountants and only theirs

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I thought grant thornton were rangers accountants for the signing off and thats why they parted company?

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26 Jan 2012 19:54:57
I hear everyone say if Jelavic leaves we have no chance of winning the league but I don't agree, we have won allot of games without him scoring so can someone tell me why the majority of people think this?

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You've also lost a 15 point lead plus a further 4 points advantage to Celtic with Jelavic in the team.

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Without lafferty and naisy we won't score enough goals!

J

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26 Jan 2012 19:45:01
Ostriches, looks like jellyfish doing a "rapid" again, never showed up for training today, looks like he has downed tools again oh dearie me, but never mind as you all know Whyte has a Plan! lol Timalloy

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You heard this where, not on the news? Blue4ever

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Apparently on local radio, see also Celtic rumours tonight 19.24.38 our ED007 talking about it LOL Timalloy
Headlines in papers tomorrow
Rangers in "Rapid" decline! hail hail

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STV News at 6.00p.m. reported that Jelavic never turned up for training today.

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26 Jan 2012 19:31:38
Jelavic did not train today. STV news.

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I cant find anything about that atoll I think your telling porkies

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STV News. 6.00p.m.

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26 Jan 2012 19:13:18
Who cares how much money we could get for jelly fish, we would be as well selling him for less than a million as we're going to get heehaw of that money to reinvest, so basically we should take a chance and keep him and if he gets injured we haven't lost anything anyway.
Hope the tax case is over either way soon and whyte as we all no he'll do, buggers off.

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26 Jan 2012 19:10:21
If i DON'T offer you £7m for a player
how can you refuse it if its not on offer?

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26 Jan 2012 19:05:22
Posted before but was ignored. Can't understand if whyte wants to cash in on jela, why didn't he take the money pre season that was offered to the club? Also being so close to administration as we clearly are, then why are we not biting the arm off whu for the 7 million, we are in same position as Portsmouth. We need cash

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Quite simple. Whyte was banking on a European run to provide cashflow. This didn't happen so he now NEEDS to sell Jelavic.

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26 Jan 2012 19:02:45
Jelavic not at training today believed to be at west ham fog medical

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Be interesting to see the fee?

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26 Jan 2012 18:12:39
Absolutely loving this transfer window seeing the mighty gers scrape about the bottom of the barrell trying to find anyone willing to play for them for a total crap wage it really is laughable to see you lot say lets sell this one or that one then buy this one or that one when in reality you wont be buying ANYONE!! Your skint! Roookit! And i for one am loving it get it right round ye!!

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And how much money have the mighty seltic spent?

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Is that not what Celtic have done over the past two seasons?

.......signed as many players as possible who will play for them?

How many players have Celtic signed in the last month?

Ya clown!!

TTG

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We dont need to spend ya plum.... Oh and by tha way were debt free and also dont owe the tax man a fortune!

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Another mankey mob supporter with no name well here is one for you GUTLESS

GERman

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Celtic haven't exactly got millions to spend either pal. Could have saved 2 million jimmies on that nugget Bangura and had some left to spend.

BB

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I see none of you clowns denying the fact your scrapping barrels .... Lol yeha loving every last second of it roll on the admistrators!!!

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And lol at German moaning about posters with no name... Bless.... Lets make a silly wee name up like GERman and pretend to be hard!!

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And you are soft in the head i take it comments like that just make me laugh cause people like you that cant put a name to your post is pure 100% GUTLESS and unlike you i dont have to pretend im hard like you and if you dont like whats said about you stick to your own mankey mob page LOL

GERman

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And you are?? At least GERman has the balls to put his name on his posts and if you don't like what he says about you don't read it

Gerrythehardmam

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26 Jan 2012 18:00:05
CW is about to advertise Jelavic for sale on Ebay

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So that's now Ibrox AND Nikica Jelavic up for sale on Ebay?

TTG

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Haha with an £8m reserve!

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That is a terrible joke

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26 Jan 2012 17:47:07
Can't believe the amount of people claiming Jelavic ISN'T worth the money Rangers want. His goal scoring record is fantastic. Agreed that scoring tap-ins against the likes of St Johnstone won't inflate his value but scoring winners in cup finals, goals of the season, free kicks, headers, volleys, having 2 good feet, a good touch and a decent work ethic will. He's the most complete striker we've had on the books for years and he's still only 26. Anyone who thinks Hutton, Boumsong, Gordon, McGeady etc are all better than Jelavic is having a girraffe. THAT is why we are holding out for more money for the big man.

BB

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The problem with Jelavic is his lack of pace and that is what is putting EPL clubs off.

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The guy is only worth what another team is willing to pay for him.
At the moment there are no offers - one from West Ham may have been rejected who knows?..but none at the moment
Anything else at this stage is hypothetical!

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His goal records not great all in he's scored 66 goals in ten years a lot of that's been in the spl and you all think he's worth 10 mill

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26 Jan 2012 17:22:37
Does anyone else think that if a club is offering 7mill,i would like to point out i am not saying that anyone has/has not but if a bid like that is made for jelly we should be grateful for it. This has nothing to do with the impending tax situation and a need to pay a bill as we all know that if the worse happens we will need a hell of a lot more than that. My fear is that in the summer his value will decrease by 1-2million, yes i know that he could do well in euro 2012(if he even plays) but the real worry in my eyes is that after all the big numbers being quoted by White in the window it will scare off all clubs interested and no one will be going any place close to 7. The longer it goes on the more unsettled the player will become. Unhappy player=poor performances=decrese in value=little or no profit.

On a seperate point if you look at the players we missed out on in the summer, Goodwillie, Conway, Hemed etc i cant help but think the problems lie with the men doing the deals. Yes money will be a factor but Conway and Hemed were frees so wages would be the only issue, is it just that we cant close a deal? Or sell the club?

Every one on here has their own views and i have no doubt that we will all disagree with each other but i and a lot of gers fans i know are in agreement with one thing.......Yes he had his failings and wasnt always flavour of the month but i for one would definatly rather have Martain Bain trying to do the deals than Gordon Smith.

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26 Jan 2012 16:53:03
Anyone else think our lack of goals from midfield is shocking? Don't think even hits double figures. Maybe time Davis etc got their finger out

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No need for etc Davis should try and score a single goal. It's odd that he gets to hit free kicks and hasn't even scored a goal this season eh?

GovanFR

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Yeh it is shocking wee need sum1 in there that can get us goal an chances davis should be the won but he aint producing it a think he played better on the right wing since he came in 1 he has been rotten

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Davis might not have scored a goal yet this season but he has 10 assissts, the most in the SPL so far. 10 assissts are just as good as 10 goals....he is still doing his part for the team.

It isn't Davis who needs to get his finger out, he needs his midfield partner, Ed, to partake in more phases of play, rather than running into blind allays and not looking for the pass!!

TTG

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26 Jan 2012 16:51:59
Looking forward to a better all round performance against Hibs,new lad Marvin looks decent,hope we do well,we need a boost,too much negativity around the club,lets play football ,win games,keep the pressure on the imposters.The rest will be history,Rangers win another title,when everyone wrote us off.Rangers,one objective,win trophies.

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Bedoya and McKay looked decent on You tube. I will judge him after 6 games IF he gets a game.

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I,m looking for a better Performance from hibs,artybhoy

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Still need to pay comp for Celik, his old club still holds his reg. Maybe ask Aluko for another loan.

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26 Jan 2012 16:41:35
Can't decide if we are better selling or keeping jelavic , wat use think would be best for our club

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I think you will find we have no option what we have go to hope for is a decent replacement for funds released after the transfer i think 7m is wide off of mark as a couple of players were thrown in to take it up to the value bb blue

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To stop us from going completely bust I would sell every single one of them and use the under 19 team. No man is bigger than the club. Plus they can't be much worse to watch at the moment!!

pappy

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26 Jan 2012 16:31:43
Am I on my own when I find it strange that in our financial situation, with a huge tax case ahead, with a bargain basement chairman, that we refuse 7 million for Jelavic? Look at Portsmouth for example. They are screwed unless they can get good money for their prized players. Now I have no inside info, and I'm as much oblivious as the next, but SURELY 7 million must be appealing? Or are we all going to be surprised by Mr whyte, entrepreneur?

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West Ham did NOT make a bid for Jelavic.

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26 Jan 2012 16:14:31
team for hibs:
----------------mcgregor------------------
bartley------goian------boca------papac

----------------mcCulloch------------------------davis-------------edu----------

aluko-------------jelavic---------mervan

subs:alexander
wallace
wylde
healy
kerkar
mcmillan
bedoya
with 3 cm we should easily win any midfield battle bartley does'nt offer anything goin forward so let him concentrate on defending, with jig an edu sitting davis can push on more and link the ball between sone and mervan and the 3 can create countless opportunity's for jela to smash home! *ksd*

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Agree about the 3 CM....wouldn't have Jig in though - would be inclined to give either Bedoya or McKay a start.

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So you're saying we should have 7 defensive players on the pitch and 1 striker against a pish Hibs side?

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Mckay is on his way out the door he will never play for rangers again what don't people get about that, yeh bedoya cud b a shout but ally more likely to play jig, and where is the 7 defensive players im sayin play sone jela and merv up front davis in behind pulling the strings sasa can get up left in support having jig edu and bartley will give these players more freedom getting forward and staying forward, it's more attacking than last week we had 2 left backs 3 centre backs healy making up the numbers! watp *ksd*

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Davis is not pulling any strings HE'S HIDING. He hasn't played a good game as captain. Wake up Ally take the arm band from him he's playing like a frightened wee boy

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The team i think McCoist will play on Sat is:

McGregor

Bartley Goian Boca Papac

Aluko Davis Edu Wallace

Kerkar

Healy

For some reason I don't think Jelavic will be playing, whether he is here or not.

I'm going to predict that McCoist's first two changes in the game will be Wylde for Wallace and Celik for Kerkar, purely because he so predictable.

We need a gd result at the wknd, no less than 3-0. Sadly, I don't think this going to happen. Hibs are rank rotten on current form, everyone and their granny has been scoring into them, but, they will come to Ibrox and do what Aberdeen done.....defend. I think it's going to be a struggle.

TTG

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Agree with OP formation and most of the players, except Jig and Bartley.

pappy

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Agree with the first comment

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Bartley is a lump of wood playing at right back. Must have read the Jocky Bjorklund book on attacking. He makes Clubfoot look like Sandy Jardine. Bartley gets caught out of position e.g. Aberdeen goal. Give McMillan a chance or why not try Ortiz at full back.

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26 Jan 2012 16:11:52
David murray back at murray park very suspicious something big is gonney happen at rangers a think what was said a few weeks back about whyte being the guy who is taking all the flack a heard a source 2 weeks ago that the debt will be sorted and murray will come back and rangers will start a fresh with no debt and still be the famous glasgow rangers if we where in that much trouble why hasnt our best players been sold ie mcgregor bocanegra goin davis jelavic naisy ano hes injured but surely they would be getting sold thats fact. a reckon that no one will be sold and we will add with boyd coming back and maybe the likes of jaager and bruins and claros all signing.Murray doesnt come back to murray park to see a doctor thats a lot of rubbish somethings happening behind the scenes trust me its rangers we always been like this as a club nothing ever happens till the last min.

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Men in white coats on their way.

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Best players havent been sold cos nobody wants them,artybhoy

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Allys bags were packed n murray was there to cool him down. by the way theres no glasgow in rangers!

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Aye and soon there will be no Rangers in Glasgow.

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26 Jan 2012 15:42:51
Sell off all the high earners
Freeze season ticket prices for five years
Cap the wages
Develop youth players

How many do you think would turn up at ibrox?

Oranjeboom

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First team plus subs and management

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Stadium would be half empty - as it currently is anyway.

Scottybhoy

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Too many dhims on this site. Worry about your own team having no bottle. No money,no players and still league champions. Four in a row, we are the people

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Half empty ? What dream are you in 45,000 minimum - it's parkshed that's always half empty

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Don't think so Spotty boy 45,000 at least every week didn't know Ibrox held 90,000? Jog on now there's a good boy.

Billyboy1

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Scottbhoy,

Half empty? Are you getting Ibrox and Celtic Park mixed up by any chance?

TTG

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26 Jan 2012 15:28:55
Big jellyfish worth 8million my ar@e no European comps 16 goals with 5of them penalties against Celtic he's been pretty poor so how the he'll can you want 8 million for jellyfish hoPe nobody signs him because ppl say the league title would go if he was sold but you are still dropping points with him playing you are on a bad way but still the media do not hang you out to dry like they always do to Celtic Big yo

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Couldnt agree more. I think Jelavic is a good player but he's not he belives himself to be or wot sum Rangers fans think he is. Apart from the league cup final never does it against Celtic. Easiest game ive seen Mulgrew an Rogne have this season was against Rangers. If there really was an offer from West Ham then Craig Whyte is paying a dangerous game rejecting good money again. Can only assume he's holding out for 8 so uz have doubled wot u paid for him. Id say 8 mil is the maximum uz will get.

Drew

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Away and stop talking p!sh captain yoyo. Why do you all obsess about what Jalavic is worth. You're a shower of broken records. He's worth what someone will pay. He's certainly a more complete footballer than Hooper- who'll be off in the summer, even if you do contrive to blow the title yet again. :-)

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Was boyd worth more than larsson? cos he scored more spl goals... Idiotic comment is what i expect from your half and thats what i got... You think the only thing you look at when buying a player is his strike rate? hoopers suppose to be worth more than 6 million but i think youll find him behind jelavic in the spl scoring charts ! then u dribble on about the media, atleast he can score penalties and its the quality in the movement and technique thats got him so highly rated at ibrox.. you check his scoring on the bbc website and come up with a valuation !

FauldsRFC

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Aye the media don't hang us out to dry? It's negative headlines everyday surrounding us. Jelavic has 17 goals and is top scorer in the SPL.

Billyboy1

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The distict lack of bids of any substance suggests that no-one regards jellyp'sh as a good striker

so far, not a single bid has been made FACT.
so far, 5 fake bids in the papers FACT.

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Jelavic has scored 5 goals against Celtic in his career, that is quite impressive if you ask me.

Big Yo,

Has Hooper been outstanding this season? Hooper was playing so bad that Lennon dropped him!!

Jelavic might have scored a few penalties this season, but they all count. How many penalties did Celtic score last season??

He isn't top scorer this season for nothing. He also has the best goals to game ratio in the SPL to date!!

So Celtic can demand £10m for James Forrest, who hasn't proved anything, but Rangers can't demand £8m for Jelavic, who has a decent European goal scoring record and is the best striker in the SPL........

Very Good!!!!!!

TTg

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26 Jan 2012 15:28:33
Whyte contacts Romanov for financial advice.

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Romanov replies:

Oh dear Mr Whyte. this is much worse than anything I have done before - your on your own.

Scotty

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26 Jan 2012 14:32:03
To my fellow Rangers fans and straight from the heart It needs to be accepted we ARE In deep S**te in regards to our finances but what will be will be we must give Ally the chance to put his mark on HIS team which in all honesty must be at least 2 SEASONS. Ally Mcoist is my hero always was and always will be. Who else are we going to replace him with, Billy Davies yeah ok maybe and with the utmost respect but its still going to cost us to replace Ally and then pay Davies as well and is he gonna do a better job I Dont think so. Just look at N Lemon he was hours away from getting his P 45 and in all fairness has turned his team around look at last night with Liverpool now if they would have got beat they would have been screaming for Dalgleish's head but now he's there hero we must give Ally time Yesterday is history and tomorrow is a mystery. I love my team and however i might feel about K Bigfoot or Mckay or Ortis or anyone else for that matter I will always support my team you pay your money you takes your choice. Following G Rangers is just like marriage your going to have good times and your going to have bad you just have to keep battling away im sure there is no one else in this world that knows that better than Ally Mcoist. G Rangers is in his blood. I will always love my Glasgow Rangers. He needs our support. ! WRTP. LeethePee.

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Your Whyte's dream supporter pal,pay up ,no questions asked.Are happy watching an inferior manager select an inferior team and continue to drop points...well iam not and neither are a ly of people like me .McCoist will never make a great manager!an assistant?maybe,yes.

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2 seasons for ally no chance the guys goes not have it simple. i know he has not had a lot of money to spend but it has been his team selections and tactics that have seen us out of 3 competitions so far.

He cannot man manage and when he has a disagreement with a player he does not play them, i.e mckay and fleck.

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In answer to the second poster I am not Whytes dream supporter i am my own man and dont need to please anyone apart from the missus ooh er matron but you is entitled to your opinion. Ally forever.

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In his first season as manager McCoist has had to work with a very small squad and very small transfer budget.

In his first season as manager Lennon had to work with a very large squad with a reasonable sized transfer budget.

Catch my drift?

TTG

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26 Jan 2012 14:27:53
Who is doing bains job ? Is it that clown smudger or whyte himself? Whoever it is have turned us into a laughing stock, we offer absolute pittence for players whose clubs probably don't even read our " emailed" bids anymore yet we want a fortune for a player who's form is terrible probably thanks to all the speculation we have created. Everytime we go in for or try selling players it turns into f::: ing river city episode... Get Bain back!

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Bain was a useless arrogant greedy egotistic smug tango man

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Martin Bain was very good when it came to signing players and dealing with contracts. He gets a lot of criticism but if I was sacked from a job without a reason I would look for compensation.

GovanFR

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Martin Bain sold players for buttons and along with others he is culpable for our present situation

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Let's be honest the worst sales man in the world could have sold the mighty Glasgow Rangers to top players during the 90's. To top this the Tango man had hidden bank acounts and off-shore payments to offer players who may have considered other options but where swayed with these insentives offered by both Bain and Murray! I am sure Mr Bain has made a fortune from our club(salary & "insentives") however when his time was up he instructs lawyers to ring fence money only he thinks he has a right to. He is part of the reason our great club is in the mess it is in.

Have him back!! You must be having a laugh!!

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I think you'll find it was Campbell Ogilvie who was at the helm when the tax avoidance shenanigans started.

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It was murray

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26 Jan 2012 14:22:57
Six days to go,what's the chances that what has been claimed on this site at the start of Jan will prove correct,Jelavic will be sold with perhaps only a couple of days left of the transfer window,and with it will come the usual nonsense,delivered to the supporters,that there was not enough time to replace the player. Never mind the fact that if the club was serious they would have already signed another Striker to play with Jelavic given it is obvious to anyone with a brain that Rangers have been short in the forward area of the club for months,and despite any financial issues are we really to believe that if no signing is made and Jelavic goes that we will win the league.

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26 Jan 2012 14:22:54
You know...for ages now i have contributed to this site and enjoyed all the banter and rumours that go back and forward. But now, i am so frustrated almost at the point of greetin that i dont know what to think of my beloved club. i just wish we would get some kind of indication as to the real mess i.e. Tax bill plus whatever else is going on behind the scense so we can deal with it. All this cloak and dagge stuff is dragging this great institution into the gutter and im sick of it. I can only see a downward spiral for our club...as Jim Bett mentioned the times before the souness era! Then we will see where the trus rangers supporters are! Transparency is required and where is "fight" from the supporters trust, this who represent us the fans? We need some idea as to what is going on.

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26 Jan 2012 14:14:38
richard eckersley been released from burnley. what i remember decent right back, and only 22. better than whittaker. wouldn't be on too much wages. worth a punt?

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I am better that whittaker

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Who?you are slipping into celtic 90s mode,signing carl muggletons of your own,artybhoy

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26 Jan 2012 14:13:27
Hi Ed,

What's the deal Mervan Celik? Is he cleared to play at the wknd?

TTG {Ed001's Note - I believe he got his international clearance through ok, I have not heard of any issues anyway.}

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Thanks for clearing that Ed.

According to the "others" Celik's former club were demanding that the clearance isn't granted as Rangers still haven't paid the compensation fee. Clearly, this was another myth LMAO!

TTG

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I thought his club is due compensation,they have to be paid before he gets clearance,its about 250,000,where do we get that from,miserable whyte wont pay it,and please no more tims on here saying he will have to pay it himself,that joke is wearing a bit thin now....trueblue....

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Trueblue: AIG musta been paid if he's in the squad for sat. green jhedi

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He will have to pay it himself.

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But has it been paid?

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I'm sure it wasn't paid the DR would have been all over it like a rash.......

TTG

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26 Jan 2012 13:55:43
Saturdays coming back to fitba talk

Lets have 3 points on saturday and put some pressure back on the other mob

Hope to see Mervan in action, got a felling he could be what we need to give us a kick start again

Ally tactics need to be positive from the off

Should be a boost for the team that we have knocked back 7.2m to keep our main striker for the rest of the season

JG

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Jg:has the celik deal been cleared for him to play sat,rumour on here that aig wanted the payment? green jhedi

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Totally m8 - an let's not have defenders playing as wingers

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Greenjhedi,

I think that rumour was just another fabrication made up by your fellow Celtic fans. What other false rumours about our club do you lot have in store?

TTg

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Yes, lets not see Wallace is midfield anymore. Celik said his preferred position is left wing so he can have it, especially when you consider there is no competition for the LW spot.

GovanFR

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TTg: no rumours mate i saw a gers poster on here asking.i thought it had to be payed in 30 days not straight away. green jhedi

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26 Jan 2012 13:12:42
rangers should take a leaf out of wee fergus mccanns book,a few dodgy seasons but at the end of it you could be fiancially stable instead of wondering who yous are going to sign next,the title isn`t more important than your team surley? and lets be honest your not going to sign anybody worth while or thats going to change your season. all these so called loyal supporters need to give thereselfs a shake and stop living in the past and get their heads round the fact that their is no money to there to buy the league anymore,HH

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The difference with Whyte and McCan is McCan had money! and lots of it! McCan also didnt have a 50m liability over his head. Our best hope is someone like Fergus McCan comes in at the last min if we lose the taxcase and saves us. I think that WILL happen.

J

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Any money they have is mine and I'm coming for it!

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J; i make you right i think there might be someone lurking in the shadows.just cant see why he would buy if not.green jhedi

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It wont happen because CW makes more money selling Rangers with no debt...which he will be able to do once Rangers have come out the other side of administration.

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26 Jan 2012 12:40:01
if its true an rangers got offerd Piquionne as part of the deal awould tell west ham all the cash up front plus Piquionne he would do a good job for us an score goals

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West ham have no cash to spend,was all a load off b****cks,a pr stunt to appease there fans!!!!!no bidders for jelavic to date,unless gers drop price to about 5or 6million,he be staying

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26 Jan 2012 12:38:08
Maybe a good thing naismiths injured coz if he wasn't he'd be a epl player rite now ... Price ? I would say 12 mill

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Hahhaaahahahhahhahaaha, up yer medication mate

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If he kept up his form I think clubs would be sniffing around

J

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LOLOL another one on the glue,is this a special at ibrox this stuff ? Seems like if rangers fan has lost touch with common sence?

A don't like Naismith but credit to him he's a good player.12m tho ? Try half that. Remember it's the spl would be surprised if any player from the old firm would go for anywhere near 10m.

Lenny

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Near 10 mill no chance you say Gordon Hutton McGeady spring to mind but jenny you keep making your ill informed statements for a tiny bit of attention.You trully are a plasterer.Shaun H

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Ffs.no wonder gers are in debt,all their players must,ve cost a fortune.naisy?12m?are you insane?artybhoy

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26 Jan 2012 11:42:06
Sorry to spoil the transfer window rangers fans but use are bringing in no 1 and jelly belly will be away on last day so cw can save up his penny's for mr tax man.when r use going to bring your heads above the sand!! Things can only get better aye rite!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Rusty the tim

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Crusty the clown,

.....and Craig Whyte told you this personally did he?

TTG

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Rusty, you said the same thing before we signed Cellik. You know nothing.

Duccablue

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26 Jan 2012 11:21:59
Rumours have it that ally is asking season ticket holders to bring there boots at the weekend to be in the squad. Only down fall is you've to go to the club shop and buy the full strip yourself (giro's not excepted)so that's 99% of use not getting a strip!!!seriously do rangers fans think they'll be challenging for a top 6 next year?get a grip. Rusty the tim

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What have Celtic won nothing - an if I was you I wouldn't be so confident! Your teams full of bottle merchants! Let's see where u are after the next weeks after you've played hearts an caley have knocked you out AGAIN! Celtic - Scotland's worst helper in the co-effeciant rankings... Fool

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How did your europe adventure go this year..................oh thats right it didnt.green jhedi

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How did yours go green ged-eye, Through the back door?

TTG

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Rangers didn't help much with the co-efficient this year. Celtic did more than Rangers so that argument is nonsense.

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Memory lapse jedhi LOL

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Jhedi - uz got in the back door, nothing to be proud of!

Jas

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Poster number 2 on the subject of bottles I would like to point out that as far as we at HMRC are concerned these are not legal tender and we will not accept them as payment.

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Back door! we got in cos a team cheated n violated UEFA rules,thats why they were punished.thank ghod none of our teams would resort to sneaky underhand tricks...........wait a minute something sounds familiar here.green jhedi.......mind the gap

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Your ranting again green snake eye, medication time!
Coconut Airways.

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What underhand tricks would that be? I suppose, as usual, you are claiming that Rangers have never, EVER won anything farely?

Of course you are, you are a Celtic fan green ged-eye, Celtic are always cheated.....never defeated!!

TTG

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Coconut! still trying to alter my tag i see?shame your not very good at it eh? no ranting mate just facts.wish you would explain yours cos it might be construed as slighty racist,is that your dark secret? you are right tho it is medication time.large john daniels and ice thanks.always nice to hear from you but remember..............mind the gap. green jhedi

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TTG: of course not.every team suffers bad decisions in a season n usually the better team wins the league.but you cant deny your in a mess because of underhand dealings in payments to players. you and i have to pay taxes n i dont think you earn 10k per week(i dont) so why should your team use off shore payment systems to line already wealthy players pockets? i take it you were angry at bankers bonus's? much the same thing. green jhedi

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Green Jhedi,

If I had it in me to evade paying taxes I'd freaking do it, I think every one on this forum would agree. Thousands of companies all over Britain use off-shore accounts to line already wealthy pockets. Even banks have off-shore accounts. Don't be surprised of Dermot Dermot and Peter Lawwell have themselves some off-shore accounts........

TTG

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26 Jan 2012 09:36:19
Where's the logic here? A lot of people saying that if Jelavic goes that'll be like handing the title to Celtic but Jelavic is still here and playing yet Rangers are still handing the title to Celtic (re 19 point swing)

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Exactly the amount of people who think jelavic is a cross between pele and messi is unbelievable. hes not that good and rangers are playing a dangerous game if they have knocked back 7.2 million for him. rangers clearly need the money and the prem teams might just walk away if the price is too inflated.

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Undisclosed fee that will be the out come. Rangers still owe RV for jelavic so if he's sold they need to pay what their owed,plus there % on sell on clause whatever else is rangers ? Think 7m is a fair price for jelavic he is a good player & looks better in a crap league. All depends who gives the most cash up front,also who was the last big signing that made a impact on the EPL ? Thats probz why there will be a few million in add ons to see if they can crack it

Lenny

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Lenny ya muppet,

How many more times bud? Rangers don't owe anything for the Jelavic deal.

GIVE UP!!

TTG

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It's really quite simple mate- if Jelavic goes Rangers won't be winning the league relying on dump like sclafferty for goals. If he remains, there's still a chance to my mind of closing a four point gap. Speak to a bookie. Shaping us to be a yawnfest should Jela go. Only one thing worse than a two-horse-race....

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26 Jan 2012 09:36:12
(the intelligent Celtic fan) as much as I would love to see rangers go to the wall I think the consequences for scottish football would be severe. as I blame rangers for the state of the spl and the national team I think they really need to take a hard look at themselves for spending what they didn't have by bringing in terrible foreigners trying to buy championships and not producing home grown talent like Celtic.we've lost out on a generation of young footballers for rangers put them on the scrap pile now they boys have now lost all confidence in themselves.the national team strugglin now because of use with only the other 11 teams trying to produce Scottish talent.the quicker the business men take there head out there xxxx and phone Peter lawwell and ask how to run a successful business we can all move forward. Rusty the tim

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Talk about conspiracy theories

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So tell me crusty the tim,

How is Rangers' fault that the SPL and Scottish national team are in the state that it is in.....and what homegrown talent have Celtic produced? To my knowledge there is ONE homegrown player in the Celtic team at the moment!

Your post isn't intelligent in the slightest.

TTG

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What a load of complete tosh. Give us a list of young players "developed" by Celtic.

Go on.

How many Scottish players are in the Celtic team.

Go on.

Oranjeboom.

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And during the O'Neill era which Scottish players got a game for Celtic??

Billyboy1

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Rusty the tim more like Rusty the Dhim Celtic producing home growing talent young Forrest apart your teams full of foreigners.so why don't you go and phone your Mr Liewell and ask him where all your good Scottish talent is. Thick or what.

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Rangers had at 148 players to be cap by scotland over its history how much has Celtic had ??

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What a wonderfull honour......green jhedi

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Intelligent and septic fan

never thought i would see those two words in the same sentence

JG

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McGregor, Burke, Ferguson, Charlie Adam, Ross McCormack, Danny Wilson, John Fleck, Gregg Wylde, all products of Murray Park and most are full internationals or will be soon. How many Scotland internationals have celtic produced over the past 10 years?

J

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I just canny believe the original post.

Deluded, deluded, deluded.......it`s the celtic way.

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Gangrine Jhoke if your reference is to play for Scotland being a wonderful honour then yes your right it IS.If it was not can you please explain.Shaun H

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Not being scottish it isnt a big deal for me,i might be wrong but i dont think theres an award for it is there? green jhedi............MTG

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26 Jan 2012 09:22:23
Mr Whyte is merely a pawn in a complicated game ! He is at Ibrox to see Rangers through case so as not to tarnish the CV.or business interests of the "night in shining armour" sit tight !!

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26 Jan 2012 09:10:29
FYI, David Murray does not personally own Murray Park!

Miko x

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And wheres your foundation to back this up assh-ole again NONE so come back when you come out of your trance NUMPTY

GERman

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26 Jan 2012 08:04:59
David Murray ought to be taken to task over this fiasco. He is the only person at fault here and is getting an easy time of it. It will be interesting to see what the season ticket prices will be for next season as the club has to downsize yet again.

Oranjeboom

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According to my mate there goin up by 10-15%.green jhedi

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10% increase was mentioned a couple of weeks ago

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26 Jan 2012 07:26:06
I,m posting this on the bears page as there appears to be more timmys than us bears

On 24/05/2011 Celtic raised a mortgage on Lennoxtown for an undisclosed amount

Can you now disclose how big yer mortgage is timmy

Also in june 2010 you had a bank debt of just over 5m now in june 2011 its 0.5m do you all really think a wee leprechaun paid it back out of his pot of gold or do you think sugar daddy desmond coughed and paid it

If you apply the same principle then you owe sugar daddy des 5m
remember and keep up the mortgage payments timmy

JG

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LOLOL

Aye we pay our bills/taxs etc.

When was the last time Celtic were in court for payments ? You would honestly think Craig whyte was a judge, spends more time in court than at ibrox

Lenny

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Lol, a bear giving FINANCIAL ADVICE iiiii

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Under that logic lenny must be a rangers fan. Spends more time on the rangers page than the club crest

Oranjeboom

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Q: How do you get a Celtic fan to stand up?
A: Say "Will the defendant please rise."

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If we raised a mortgage to clear debt we owe the lender dumbass! good buisness practice anyway.why dont you get a mortgage to pay debt? oh forgot you havnt got a credit line....green jhedi

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Never answered my question, you that seems to know everything

How much is your mortgage?? and where did the 5m come from??

JG

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Jg:no idea how much but in desmond we trust!! green jhedi

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26 Jan 2012 01:03:05
6 weeks ago all we heard was jellyfish is worth 10-15 million easy now you are tryin ur best to punt the big dud for 7.5max.
oh how the mighty have fallen!to be honest it will be 5 @the end of the window.or take what u get. 5 is his value6 tops.

Scottybhoy

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Yeah just like the 4m offered for your 29m hooper,
Timalloyluvsragers

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Scottybhoy,

So it's OK for Celtic and their fans to slap large price tags on their players but when Rangers or their fans do it, it's laughable?

Talk about double standards!!

TTG

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Hopper cost 2.4m jelavic cost 4m or 4.4?

Celtic don't need to sell plus rangers still owe money on jelavic. If it works out at 1m a season for talking sake then if he's sold just now rangers still owe rapid a couple of million plus there sell on fee. That 7m bid from west ham would probz put rangers out of pocket time they pay rapid & wait & see how add one go.

Jelavic will go on the last day 6.5m upfront cash with maybe a good sell on Clause. But SSN will say its a undisclosed fee

Lenny

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Difference is the 29 mill was a tongue in cheek coment but hey we dont need to sell,you do and everyone knows it

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Lenny, are feakin at the wind up? Rangers don't know owe anything for the Jelavic transfer, it's paid in full you clown. Where do you Celtic fans get yer info from, you lot seem to know things we don't.

You lot need to get a life man....

TTG

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Timalloyluvsragers??that last bit supposed to be rangers,lmfao.luv how our tim has got so far up you that you cant post without quoting his name.maybe one day you can be a tim mate.keep eating your greens and stick in at school,theres a good bhoy,artybhoy

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26 Jan 2012 01:01:42
We are just a laughing stock now

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26 Jan 2012 00:32:32
I may be wrong here but have a think about this. murray sold rangers for £1 to cw makin him liable for the debt to hmrc. cw gets the first 18m regardless of tax case and if admin or liquidation all bank debts get written off. as far as i am aware rangers fc only own the car park at ibrox not the entire surrounding area as some think and ibrox stadium is third party owned and is a listed building so all in all without rfc it is no use to no1 and will prob go to rack and ruin if liquidation is sought.

So cw walks away with £18m and will be banned from being a director for 6 yrs. nice work if u can get it but david murray is the real winner as he personally owns murray park paid for out of the bank debt which will be written of in case of liquidation and gets to walk away with 14m football complex. 75m debt writtenaa against cw name

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I cant stand whyte but he will not walk with 18 m. He had borrowed £18m to payback lloyds, he had borrowed from elsewhere. If they go into admin, the £18m is secured, so the first £18m goes to whyte. He will have to pay off the lenders. So he had paid £1 , clears his borrowings. Then he can buy from the administrator for next to nothing, and sells the club, with no debt for a healthy profit. The big concern is that the only way he can make money is if we go into admin. if we don't he still owes £18m to the lenders and has really paid £18,000,001. He is then really struggling. Could not understand at the beginning how anybody can buy anything with a potential huge liability potentially due. If I agree to buy your house and it is valued at £100k and then you tell me that there is a chance that I will get a £50k bill, I am not going to buy it.
I think from day 1 that whyte is desperate for us to go into admin, and I am afraid that that is what will happen. Wish it would hurry up, get it sorted and then move on. Although it is a disgrace that RFC, in business for 140 years, an institution, finds itself in this position due to the complete mismanagement by DM and his cronies.

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Totally agree. I think in that time of due diligence it was planned to put us under. No business man in there right mind would buy that club in its present situation. His spin doctors see to be in overdrive trying to make the club look steady.

Don

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Plus interest??

Just a wee question, why are folk worrying about signing this one and that? Our only concern this year is still being here next year. Surely.

Besides, should we survive I'd like to see the club re-structure, concentrate on youth development and having system of play and fitting the players we have into it.

pappy

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26 Jan 2012 00:07:28
Remember this in the Record before Whyte took over:

www.dailyrecord.co.uk/football/spl/rangers/2010/11/18/craig-whyte-profile-the-scots-billionaire-on-the-brink-of-taking-over-the-club-he-loves-86908-22722617/

Poor reporter must be in Mexico with a fake name by now!

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Your about 12 hours to late with that timmy,the sceptic ed posted that this morning on there site.

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