Rangers Banter Archive October 26 2012

26 Oct 2012 19:32:44
Looks like not everybody thinks Celtic are wonderful...

Barcelona Legend - Bernd Schuster

German Schuster said: "I'm fed up of seeing these type of matches.
"There should not be teams like Celtic in the Champions League. We saw it last year with Chelsea. It was a very bad example for football and it is regrettable that they became European champions.
"You see Celtic defending with ten men and almost snatching a point � that is not fair."

"I believe the coach of Celtic viewed many times the video of Chelsea last season against Barcelona.
"He decided to repeat the system, but the ultra-defensive system is NOT football.

"Chelsea have now generated a school for teams like Celtic to study. It would have been unjust if a team that defended with ten men had taken one point in the home of the best club in the world.
"UEFA needs to change this phase of the competition if they want to breathe life into the Champions League.

"Celtic do not merit their place if they are going to play in this style."I remember the vitriol from Celtic fans after Messi accused us of the same thing....now the boots on the other foot, and about time too.

My, my, my...the bitterness just spews forth. Do you remember Chelsea? Seem to remember them doing Barca over whilst being disciplined. The problem with rangers was that they played EVERY SINGLE ROUND of the UEFA run defensively. Celtic were open and attacking against benfica and Spartak. Can you suggest a better way of keeping yourself in the game against Barca? Should Celtic have just invited them to steamroller them? You'd have enjoyed that, no doubt.

Ah, would this be the same Mr Schuster, that when managing Real Madrid, stated before a Barcelona v Madrid match at the Camp Nou that no team could win there.

He was sacked.

So this bell end starts bumping his gums and now he's an expert in managerial tactics . He won one league as a manager in his career so I guess he's an expert . He's that good Dundee knocked him back when he applied for the job . "Celtic shouldn't be in the Champions league" . I think you'll find the clue is in the title of the tournament . Celtic champions of Scotland . Barcelona runners up in Spain . Go figure Einstein.....DH

Maybe if barca didnt live outwith its means buying the best players at a loss of 79 million a year with a debt of 436 million then other clubs might give them more of a game

Not Fair To Defend? Who is this guy? Celtic, first British winners to break the Latin defensive dominance of the European Cup with a team of Scottish players. Unbleievable. Rangers fan, but I know the history, and Glasgow produced a Golden piece of football history in the late 60s and 70s. Both teams. Glasgow changed football.

@6,
Ah but Barca have a cunning plan to wipe out their debt, they intend to go into Administration, followed by Liquidation........well you know the rest, damned good plan though.

Oh dear the bhoys are up in arms because Schuster(and a few Barca players) told it how it was....his comments , to be fair, are as risible, and as ridiculous, as the pro-Sellik polemics gushing from our Scottish press....agreed, teams should not be condemned for playing to their strengths, or not lying down to bigger name teams, but a defeat is a defeat, and this defeat was miles away from the 3-2 game at Parkhead between Celtic and Barca, where Celtic had a right go....you can't dress up 10% possession, 4 shots on goal and a 10 man defence as anything other than hanging on by your scants...Barca had key players missing, a hobbit defence, and have been shipping goals...Samaras going off was a blow, as he had no qualms about running their backline, and Hooper is not equipped to do that ...Celtic might have got something had Samaras stayed on, but calm the "magnificent performance" bit down,...it would have been a great result, but it was'nt a great performance.

7) you are quite correct what Celtic & Rangers did in the late 60s & 70s was remarkable. I remember the night when Rsngers were in the semi of ECWC and Celtic were playing in the semi of the EC on the same night in Glasgow. I remember getting home from Ibrox and watched extra time in the Celtic game when they went out on penalties. I may be wrong but I remember ther being 150,000 at the games, astonishing.
My late father went to Barcelona in 72, I was 11. I used to wind him up that he was some Dad because he didn't take me, and he stated that his great regret was that he didnt take me, but he said that we were in semis and finals every three or four years. He did not expect it be another nearly 40 years to another final. I however learned from that and I took my son to Manchester for UEFA when he was 11.
Incredible how things have changed in such a relatively short period. He is now 15 and had never seen Scotland in any finals, and that does not look like changing any time soon either.

Bottom line, only way this will ever change is going back to straight knockout, ain't going to happen [$$$$$] so accept and get on with it.

All interesting replies. schuster's opinion isnt worth the peace of paper it was printed on. He's a laughing stock in world football. He needs to make outlandish comments like this to get any sort of attention. Best ignored. I would like to correct everyone on the possession stat though. Take the time to go and look on the official uefa site and Barcelona v Celtic 76% to 24% is the official stat. Nowhere near the 10% suggested. Just saying.

@13. So when a 19 year old Messi commented that Rangers played Anti-Football in 2007 against Barcelona, the vitriol that was spouted against us from the usual sources, ie. Celtic fans, Scottish Mhedia etc, this was just jovial banter eh? FYI - The first SPL team to be labelled with the 'Anti-Football' tag was........guess who....Martin O'neills Celtic side in 2004. Frank Rikjaard came out with the comment. {The Ed039's Note -Who cares, guys, if you want to talk about the Celtic game then there is a Celtic page. This is for Rangers associated banter and rumours)

Celtic fan. Who gives a feck, we are Scotland and they are the best team ever. Take my hat off to Ally in the Record for the "Papac was defending in Malaga at on point" comment. Like him with a bit of humour. Haven't seen it too much lately.

Shuggy

26 Oct 2012 11:32:15
if when cg was offering a cva to creditors woud if you were asked to contribute to help us exit administration via this road , i for one asked the question at the time and would have been happy to do so that way we could still have got shares and remain in spl and also be in no doubt about having our history ok european football a no no but we could have got a better calibre of players in the time we had to build a team

The momentous scale of the financial irregularities involving HMRC mean that a CVA was never going to be approved, that would imply that HMRC condoned cheating.
It's right that the club founded in 1872 and incorporated itself as a company in 1899 will become extinct in 2012/2013.
The nature of the cheating, specifically non disclosed, non contractual payments which subsequently were paid free from tax and which were facilitied by side contracts or letters of comfort will result in Rangers history being concluded with 48 league titles.
What remains to be seen is whether, after ground shattering revelations by Craig Whyte , a new club The Rangers will be allowed with trying to associate itself with a club which died in the most shameful of circumstances.
The world is watching.

'The momentous scale of the financial irregularities involving HMRC ...'

FFS, you lot now claiming the HMRC are at it? what yous like.

See if they were 'non contractual payments' does that mean they were loans and not part of their contracts?

Post one is by a bitter Celtic fan. He levels accusations which are to be decided by a tribunal not by an idiotic football fan.

26 Oct 2012 15:12:25
@2 Gavin Rae received received £8,000 via the EBTs in a season where he played 8 games, £16,000 in a season where he played 16 games and £2,000 in a season where he played 2 games, this is the SPLs point, they were not just loans, they were specific, consecutive amounts, and in this case especially they can be very much viewed as a contract.

G93

Heard today from a good source that ticketus have bought the first 15,000 season tkts for this season and next.I really dont know if this is true,(but I have e.mailed ticketus to ask if its true.prob wont get a reply)apparantly this is why the share thing is going its to pay the shortfall..and NO. im not making this up its wot i heard,anybody else hear anything like this....gary

Surely then, if they were all loans, EVERYONE will be happy to pay them all back? From Sir David all the way through to Gavin Rae. Even Souness. And Walter. And Fergie. And de Boer...and so on...

26 Oct 2012 09:08:37
just a wee not for the bald **** at dundee utd,we dont want fast tracked in to any new spl or the old one,we are happy where we are and look forward to working our way back to where we belong

Rangers fans never forget the way the club has been treated by Dundee Utc. Tickets for the league game that was postponed, their chairman talking more about Rangers than he does his own club. Its simple never buy tickets to Tannadice.

Also, wasn't the arrogance of Thompson staggering? He's quoted as saying 'I can't see how 11 clubs would agree on the size of leagues, money redistrubution and voting'
Last time I looked there were 42 teams in Scotland not 11 - don't the other 31 get a vote then Mr Thompson?

It is that simple mate and also quite easy. unless Utd are relegated or you meet in cup then according to your esteemed leader you'll never meet in league as never coming back to SPL! cant wait to see then how the next soundbite about playing in CL can happen. Embarrassing

26 Oct 2012 14:10:30
@ 2: He was talking about changing the voting scheme from 11-1 vote to a 9-3 for SPL matters, last time I checked there were only 42 teams in the SPL.

G93

G93, thats a pretty big SPL that you must've checked then. 42 teams? wow what a big division.

Thomson is a twisted wee man who hates the gers and i look forward to them going down the tubes as they will in the next 3 years

Ah so it's ok for Chuckie boy to bluster his way about the press and Dundee Utd gets slated for sticking up for his club and scottish football.Double standard I think

26 Oct 2012 19:49:48
@4 haha i realised, it was a typo, but the point remains it was in reference to SPL matters only

G93

@7 Sticken up for Scottish football you having a laugh,read the guys statment (were alright but can't say the same for Killie or Motherwell )so how's that sticken up for Scottish football.