Rangers Banter Archive April 27 2011

 

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27 Apr 2011 23:11:01
Athiest

The payments into the remuneration trusts were made through MIH contracts, Rangers will soon not be a part of MIH.

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27 Apr 2011 21:52:51
David nugent free agent in the summer

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27 Apr 2011 22:30:14
When whyte takes over rangers r romoured to be getting ramos vidic terry evra as def, ronaldo kaka gerard messi in mid and villa and possibly ether eto or roney as fw says he wants champions league, league and both scottish cups next year! ! ! ! get a grip ul be getin pos english league 2 and eastern european players no1 wants to play in scotland to much hatred bween big 2.
god! ! ! !

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27 Apr 2011 21:41:19
If Rangers lose the tax case, it is Rangers Football Club that is liable for the tax bill. No ifs, buts or mibbies. It is only the final amount that's still to be determined - anywhere between £24m and you're guess is as good as mine.

If Whyte takes over, the approx £20m debt with Lloyds will become approx £20m debt with Whyte (or whoever is putting up the money). That's Lloyds out of the picture, but what about SDM? Another £6m will see him off if reports are to be believed. So that's SDM gone but RFC are still in debt (to the new SDM).

Now, if £10m is made available to McCoist, it has to come from increasing the debt, additional investment from some as yet unnamed benefactor or, selling assets.

Whyte might have £700m or £700 (nobody knows), but remember this. . he makes his living buying distressed companies. His own company website states as much unequivocally.

I'm not suggesting that is Whyte's intention, but don't you think you should maybe ask a question or two? Before it's too late!

Ooops!

Atheist

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27 Apr 2011 21:08:35
Berra is out of contract in the summer. I think he would be a good signing.

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27 Apr 2011 20:44:18
West Brom actually have a few good players that Rangers could hopefully sign some of;
Brunt (he is under contract until 2013)
Morrison (I think out of contract in the Summer)
Dorrans(Long term contract)

Ed do you know anything about Morrisons contract? Would be a good signing especially if we got him free.

GovanFR {Ed001's Note - his contract is also up in 2013, would be a great signing for Rangers I think.}

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27 Apr 2011 19:18:57
In £9.5m-£12m
2 of these centre back Berra/ Dougalo/ Boumsong/ McAuley £4m/ £5m for 3
a left back-Wallace £2m
2 centre midfielder-Eremenko & Gomes/ K.Thompson/ Pattison £1m for 2
a striker-Goodwillie £1.5m
Iaquinta £2.5m/ Nugent free
Bartley and Weiss(loans)


Income-£4m
Bye Bye Beattie-£1m
Bougherra-£3m

Contracts
Papac-2012
Whittaker-2016
Davis-2016
McGregor-2017
Wydle-2014
Edu-2015
A few new Youngsters
McGregor

Whittaker Berra Boumsong Wallace


Weiss Edu Davis Naismith


Jelavic Iaquinta/ Nugent


GK
Alexander
Papac
McAuley/ Dougalo
Ness
Eremenko
Lafferty
Goodwillie
Now that is a team 4 in around and last 16 Champions League or at least quarter final Europa League

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27 Apr 2011 17:49:06
Whyte can only use Rangers assests to secure loans. things like Ibrox (which is a listed building and would hold no value for developers). What you might be talking about is using rangers as a platform to borrow to fund other business ventures. This prob won't happen and if it does it will not be to a massive extent. Man U, Man C, Spurs, West Ham, all these teams + more work in this way. and with the current tax thing my understanding is that MIH will be liable for that should the takeover go through.

Honestly we really need to wake up sometime's , we see the carrot in front of our face and we jumping at it.
White is on no rich list and he's supposed to be a billionaire i'm not convinced and as for MIH being Liable for the tax case that's not true either as it former Rangers Players who where payed through this so Rangers are Liable . Murray is so much in dept he won't take the HMRC tax case for himself as its only costoms who can freeze your assets no matter where they are as king has found out . King has other assets to cover his dept by murry has not , so he won't risk losing everything for Us .as HMRC will take control of every asset he has and sell them off until his dept is payed .

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27 Apr 2011 17:53:51
I personally was speaking to goodwillie on a night out (good friends with my mate) and he is a rangers fan and is hoping for a move to rangers , so really its down to getting the right money for him,

b88

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27 Apr 2011 15:01:01
Ins
Goodwillie £2m
Iaquinta £3m
Weiss (loan)
Eremenko(free)
Kevin Thompson £1m
Berra £3m
Bartley(loan)
Boumsong-£1m
Wallace £2m

Spend £11m

Out
Breattie £1m
Bougherra £3m
Relieves £4m

Contracts
Papac-2012
Maybe Weir-2012
Healy-2013
Whittaker-2016
Edu-2015
Davis-2016
McGreogor-2017

Team
GK McGreogor
RB Whittaker
CB Bousmang
CB Berra
LB Wallace
RM Weiss
CM Davis(c)
CM Thompson
LM Naismith
ST Jevalic
ST Iaquinta

Subs
Alexander
Papac
Weir if doesn't retire then if does Edu
McCulloch
Bartley
Goodwillie
Goodwillie

In Europe
GK McGregor
RB Broadfoot
CB Boumsong
CB Berra
LB Papac
CDM Edu
RM Whittaker
LM Weiss
CAM Davis(c)
ST Lafferty

Subs
Alexander
Bartley
McCulloch
Fleck
Jevalic
Healy
Naismith

wot are u taking coz i want some
y have 2 teams?
y buy eremenko n not play or use him as a sub?
you r mental m8.

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27 Apr 2011 14:32:41
Rangers should go for the likes of Conway (Free), Bell (Free), Gomis (Free), Eremenko (Free or small fee, not sure what would be required to get him?), Goodwillie (1.5mill), Sutton (500k-800k), Berra (1.25mill), Barltley (Swap with McGregor + 3mill), Weiss (1.5mill), Wallace (800k-1mill)?????

Also no-one has mentioned the likes of Cuellar, or even Brunt (West Brom) who I think is going into last year of contract and even his team James Morrison who's maybe available on a free this summer, although not entirely sure????
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why would way pay cash for sutton when he is free

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27 Apr 2011 14:33:34
In the summer ally mccoist will use the 10 million on these players

douglao for 1.5 million
david goodwillie for 1.6 million
craig conway for free
weiss on loan
bartley on loan
matty pattison for whoever much
lee wallace for 1.5 - 2 million
benni mccarthy for free


outs will be
bougherra for 6-7 million
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Behave yourselves.

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27 Apr 2011 13:44:40
C-bear85

can i book u for ma weans party coz ur great at being a clown ????????


yer a silly wee laddie that knows nothing

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U patters sh*te.

c-bear85

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27 Apr 2011 13:35:53
Rangers should go for the likes of Conway (Free), Bell (Free), Gomis (Free), Eremenko (Free or small fee, not sure what would be required to get him?), Goodwillie (1.5mill), Sutton (500k-800k), Berra (1.25mill), Barltley (Swap with McGregor + 3mill), Weiss (1.5mill), Wallace (800k-1mill)?????

Also no-one has mentioned the likes of Cuellar, or even Brunt (West Brom) who I think is going into last year of contract and even his team James Morrison who's maybe available on a free this summer, although not entirely sure????

An Eager Gers Fan x

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27 Apr 2011 13:27:20
Lee Wallace (1.5m - 2m)
Cristophe Berra (2.5m - 4m)
Alexi Eremenko ( 500k - 1m)
Craig Conway ( free agent)
David Goodwille ( 2m - 2.5m)

Max Total
£9.5m

I'd also like to see if we could sign Mark Reynolds from Shef Wed for 1m - 1.5m and sell boughy. thoughts ed?? {Ed001's Note - if Christophe Berra is worth more than 50p I am shocked! He is terrible, he is a disaster waiting to happen. Surely there must be better centre backs available?}

Thanks God ed, I thought I was the only one who though Berra was a joke, but every time I say that to someone they respond 'well he is in the premiership' I would hate to see him at Rangers, I'd rather have Zaliukas of Hearts. I'd take Wallace and Goodwillie's buyout clause is £2 million but I think he is worth it. Other possibilities are Iaquinta, Lichsteiner, (we don't need a RB though) Dougalo.

GovanFR {Ed001's Note - I have watched lots of terrible players in the Prem, such as Kyrgiakos, Konchesky and Poulsen just this season! Berra is very poor, if Wolves had better defenders they wouldn't be where they are as they have decent players in front of them.}

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27 Apr 2011 13:06:08
Does anybody rate the guy zakuni at perterborugh. someone told me he was not bad. surely better than clubfoot! !

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27 Apr 2011 12:53:32
Read Jim duffys article in the sun about his suggestions for new players:

Lee Wallace (1.5m - 2m)
Cristophe Berra (2.5m - 4m)
Alexi Eremenko ( 500k - 1m)
Craig Conway ( free agent)
David Goodwille ( 2m - 2.5m)

Max Total
£9.5m

I'd also like to see if we could sign Mark Reynolds from Shef Wed for 1m - 1.5m and sell boughy. thoughts ed?? {Ed001's Note - if Christophe Berra is worth more than 50p I am shocked! He is terrible, he is a disaster waiting to happen. Surely there must be better centre backs available?}

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27 Apr 2011 11:43:52
I put this story in last night about Vincenczo Iaquinta and you never posted it. Have you something agaist my info Ed? Beatler {Ed001's Note - I never saw any story about Iaquinta, sorry but it must have got caught in the spam filter for some reason.}

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27 Apr 2011 11:49:39
Jelavic just signed last summer and signed a 4 year contract so hows he a free agent ya nugget.

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27 Apr 2011 09:59:53
Fellow bears I am a wee bit confused. . . . . . . .With a new dawn allegedly on the horizon at Ibrox there seems to be this magical £10 million figure being banded about, for Coisty to spend in the summer. Now I am more than happy with that, but my query is, what is going to happen with this years Champions League money? The yearly figures should be released around the 30th June, with a profit expected. I am hoping that some of this will be re-invested in the squad giving the potential for more than £10 million?

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I don't know mate, i could see it being part of the deal to repay the debt, Whyte prob knows what the figures will be and has taken that into account when he say's he'll repay the debt, not sure at all, but can't see him giving any more than 10 mil unless we sell Bougy or Gregsy.

c-bear85

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27 Apr 2011 10:32:56
Fellow bears I am a wee bit confused. . . . . . . .With a new dawn allegedly on the horizon at Ibrox there seems to be this magical £10 million figure being banded about, for Coisty to spend in the summer. Now I am more than happy with that, but my query is, what is going to happen with this years Champions League money? The yearly figures should be released around the 30th June, with a profit expected. I am hoping that some of this will be re-invested in the squad giving the potential for more than £10 million?

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champs league money is what was getting the debt down to 21mill

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27 Apr 2011 09:44:18
In the summer ally mccoist will use the 10 million on these players

douglao for 1.5 million
david goodwillie for 1.6 million
craig conway for free
weiss on loan
bartley on loan
matty pattison for whoever much
lee wallace for 1.5 - 2 million
benni mccarthy for free


outs will be
bougherra for 6-7 million

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27 Apr 2011 08:35:33
Fellow bears I am a wee bit confused. . . . . . . .With a new dawn allegedly on the horizon at Ibrox there seems to be this magical £10 million figure being banded about, for Coisty to spend in the summer. Now I am more than happy with that, but my query is, what is going to happen with this years Champions League money? The yearly figures should be released around the 30th June, with a profit expected. I am hoping that some of this will be re-invested in the squad giving the potential for more than £10 million?

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27 Apr 2011 00:41:28
This is not a rumour but more just my opinion i think rangers should sign
tom hateley - motherwell
john sutton - motherwell
vladimir weiss - man city
georginio wijnaldum - feyenoord
ricky foster - aberdeen
and mibi alan dunne - millwall
and mibi a fast nimble striker
and i think they should sell or not sign again
el hadji diouf - has bn an extream disipointment
david healy - not really had a chance
james beatie - same as diouf imo could have been alot better
salim kerker - seems to never get a game so should go and get first team football else were and get off the wage bill
mo edu aswell he has bn poor all season imo
IF a decent offer comes in for bougerra then i would sell this season for the money instead of lettinh him leave for nothing the year after
and tbh if mcgregger is sold at the end of the season i would be extreamly dissapointed but it would not be the end of the world because rangers still have a gd keeper in neil alexander
i think it time daivd weir started a coaching role hes bn a great player and loyal servant for the club but hes just not as fast as he used to be and you can see him struggle to keep up now
and imo i would not take kris boyd back or kevin thomson either for tht matter one was quite lazy looking back and the other was a bit of a hot head and to injury prone

again this is not a rumour but more my opinion

the g

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