Rangers Banter Archive February 27 2014

 

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27 Feb 2014 22:20:14
We all know that winning the scottish championship title next season is far from a given in what will be a very hard league, if our manager ally mccoist, god forbid, doesn't win it he most definitely won't be the rangers manager, next season I feel is a massive season for mccoist because he & rangers will need to improve ten fold from this season to win next season's scottish championship

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Thats one of the reasons there must be no boycotts everyone must be fully focused on the challenge next season will bring with ally at the helm beleive it will be a monumental challenge

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Dont need to win championship, key is get promoted 2, 3 and 4 go into playoff and we will have huge 40,000 crowd advantages in cup type games.

spfl promotion rules were altered so we gaurenteed 2nd promotion slot.

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Ibj d
The only focus us the fans should be looking at, is the focus of getting rid of the spivs/conmen at our club. Winning the league next year or even a cup means nothing in the big picture of getting our great club back to what it was.
Focus on 1 thing at a time, history can wai, t Rangers future cant. The glory hunting must stop, that's what got us here in the first place under Murray.
If it takes longer to get into the big time, so be it
Getting rid of the robbers, is the only focus to concentrate on at the moment. We are being shafted from every angle and need to act now rather that let the poison take control. Look at the big picture and let's clean the big house, that's more important than anything at this time its now or never. come on wake up.

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@3 do you include ally as a spiv? Because he's the biggest conman at ibrox.

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@2 yes we do need to win the championship it would be embarrassing not to win it. Also u don't want to rely on the playoffs when anything can happen.

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@3 how can you say winning the league or cup means nothing? More than anything Rangers need bums on seats to do anything and it's not much of a selling point if you say that. Agree that certain people needed to be outed however that could be very difficult and could bring the club to the brink again.

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A small note to poster no 2 anotherger, we are the famous glasgow rangers my friend, to not win the championship next season is & never should be on the agenda or taken for granted, my good friend at a club like ours I totally disagree with you when you say its ok if we don't win it because we can still finish 2nd, 3rd or 4th & still go up wrong my friend rangers mustWIN the championship, no ifs buts or maybes, there will be & should be serious consequences for our manager ally mccoist if he doesn't win it with the players he has at rangers, I'll repeat we are rangers & winning this championship next season is a must nothing else is good enough

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28 Feb 2014 12:32:38
Br. Cudnt agree more my friend. not winning any one of the 3 lesser divs would be shameful.
Tomble

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Stewie.
I would like to win yes that's a given but I think you appear to have missed my posts point? winning should not unfortunately be the focus if it means further mismangement, it seems you may have missed something over the last 2years, we are being sold down the river in a leaky boat. We are losing millions to men who care not a jot what happens to Rangers. How many bums on seats do you think will be there if this nonsense continues? have we learnt nothing? winning is great yes, but winning at what cost? Is the near death of our team an acceptable thing to happen? in our quest for glory? I think not. Action now is needed and to hell with the rest for now, because the brink unfortunately is hear again and we have decisions to make and hopefully this time we get it right.

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Going bust again would be more shameful, tomblue.

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27 Feb 2014 22:28:45
Given Mr Kings statement, this is the latest best opportunity to get behind someone who appears to have the clubs interest at heart. He has now broken ranks and for me we have to trust someone but regardless, this will take serious cash to sort our problems

My suggestion may seem oversimplified but here goes

Out of ~65M shares, the fans individually and collectively have 12% of the shareholding we believe (7. 8M shares)

39M (60%) Shares are held by the 9 named corporate investers who have 3% or more of the shares

This leaves 88% to secure. This could be any where between £17. 2M to £37. 2M (57. 3M Shares @ between 30p sand 65p a share) to get rid of the opportunists.

To control 51% of the club, we need to secure 33. 2M shares which would cost between £10M and £21. 6M.

Mr King bankrolls the purchase of these shares (33, 2M Shares regardless of price) until at least 51% of the club is secured say £21. 6M

40,000 Fans provide an Investment of £750 and lodge the money in the Secure account or enter a legally binding agreement with Mr King to commit to this investment (£30m). This agreement would be secured via the Rangers Supporters Union or other vehicle.

The 40,000 fans pay this £750 over an agreed 4 or 5 year period

This covers securing control of the club and the cost of financing it. As this is paid back by the fans to Mr King, he purchases shares for his own shareholding working toward 100% owner ship of the club (50%Mr King /50% Fan ownership)

The fans continue to pay for their season tickets every year to support the working capital for the club

In addition the fans pay double the season ticket price once every four years to fund the player budget for transfers

Many of you will laugh at the thought of 40,000 fans investing an additional £400 per year for the next 4 or 5 years on top of the ~£400 for the season ticket currently.

We all do plenty of moaning and we have to really ask ourselves what are we prepared to do. I personally see an investment of £4k over 4 years to get the club we want secure and to fund the purchase of players on a sustainable basis as an absolute no brainer. Think of the s*** that we waste £4k on in our lives - what is Rangers worth to you

The alternatives are grim and I refuse to believe that this is not possible. All we need is momentum and a will to do it.

The days of someone else paying for our football are gone and we have no other revenue stream until we rebuild the club. After 4 years, review the plan

I don't like this either, but it is time to get serious or we won't have a club and we only need to look in the mirror for the blame this time.

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MOLS,

You forgot to build in a mortality rate, with Ally as manager it may be significantly high.

On a serious note the Board did indicate further investment would be needed and sought in the summer, so what DK is asking for will happen. However the Board do not want these funds just to be used to prop up losses for a year and want cuts.
DK doesn't want the cuts and doesn't believe they can raise money against the assets.
This whole chess game is about forcing the shareholders to dilute their shares or else.

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Its a very laudable idea but many sb holders struggle to be able to pay what they have to pay but do u think d king will bank roll everything then hand club over for no profit and no gaurntee how he will recoudont think so his retoric at the minute is only trying to push down the ssshare price making it cheaper to take control and possibly he maybe does not want to push to hard being happy to pick up whatever shares he can at the price that suits then make the big push this time next season when the present shareholders have absorbed the losses next season driving the price lower

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What if the people holding the shares refuse to sell?

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Lbj d pushing share pric down does not make it cheaper to buy whole club, as highest price in last 12mths used in any buyout

king does not want ST money to be handed over in june and gone in sept.

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Thats only for the ones he has to offer to buy once he gets to certain % up to that he can pay what he likes when he likes and depending what deals he can make with upporters an other shareholders to he might not need to go as far as that

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Imran key here - he ran a stockbroker firm, and in many of the floats the shares are diluted undermining jo-public investors.

There are 30% of shares still held back that could dilute anyones holdings.

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Thanks for the responses and all points are clearly valid

@3 This is also valid but the goal for all of these Institutional Investors is to make money so unfortunately we will have to give it to them sooner or later. I would prefer sooner as things never get cheaper. If we don't the club will die a slow death or take 10 years to get back to any kind competitive level with Celtic.

As Mr King has rightly pointed out, the club is unsustainable without the season tickets. We hold the power and it is about time we exercised it.

Are we really prepared to be treated like this every year when season tickets come round.

Mr Wallace had the chance to win us all over by answering the 10 or so key questions which would satisfy 95% of the fans. He has either chosen not to or is bound by some other constraint (either stockmarket or contractual). It makes no difference to us what his excuse is. We are the customer and a business with out customers fails. let's not pretend we are going to Ibrox for the quality of the product, this is pure loyalty and faith in what our club was not what it is now and also in a group of people who deserve no such respect.

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N7 yes its loyalty to our football team and we all know what dave king is up to we are better with the devil we know so ime all for sideing with dave king a supporter that has rangers at heart not like the current board they are only there for money we know dk will be looking to earn but that's not his one and only priority

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27 Feb 2014 21:56:35
Rangers are casting admiring glances towards the current aberdeen manager derek mcinnes, I'm all for mccoist & judging him properly when we're back in the big league but I have to be honest & admit that mcinnes has blossomed into a very good manager & I honestly do think one day will be the rangers manager & has the ability to go on to become a great rangers manager, your thoughts fellow bears, at least I'm getting away from the rangers board v dave king scenario for a second

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Why give an inept manager another chance? He made a Helen hunt of it in the top league before we were in admin and it's clear he doesn't have it. I would like to see someone like McInnes as manager however their are rumours that West Brom are eyeing up him and if true then u can forget about him.

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I don't want to keep harping on but really ally must go if it is him giving d k information and gets caught his feet won't touch the marble on his way out the front door

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Ibj,

My conspiracy obsessed mind asks why a certain blogger was selected to receive such detailed and comprehensive information.
Why would any disgruntled senior employee choose this outlet, seems an odd choice when the same effect could have been had leaking to a Rangers blog.
Not long after, DK reappears singing from the same hymn sheet, and calls the fans to arms.
Then tonight I read Twitter conversations between this internet blogger and DK.

Now is that not odd or is it my paranoia?

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In the present debacle everything is odd a nd almost totally driven by paranoia speculation and mistrust

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I would reserve judgement on Derek McInnes for a bit, ok two results against the hoopless, still think we need a manager, who has done it over a longer period of time. and I am aware wages would be a problem, but Rangers must be a lure for some. Ally has had a go. and by and large failed, the style of football we play, lack of tatics, poor in the transfer market, and no excuses, he had a chance of some prospects, and failed, Legend as a player, failure as a boss. Rangers Always

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27 Feb 2014 21:25:21
Just a quick question for any of the eds, or other posters for that matter. I am starting a sports journalism course at college in August and will then be looking to go on to University. Was just wondering if any of you could point me in the direction of a Rangers fans site that would maybe allow me the opportunity to write a weekly blog or something like that? Anything that I could do and use to build experience and a portfolio would be helpful in the long run.

Thanks in advance.

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{Ed001's Note - contact us through the contact form, so I have an email address to reply to. I don't have access to email addresses given for the purposes of creating an account, so I will need some way to discuss it with you and see if we can help.}

27 Feb 2014 20:16:49
http://www.rangers.co.uk/news/headlines/item/6421-graham-wallace-statement

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Very very poor statement which is just a holding position, says nothing new, comments are false. and all will be well.

your can't keep repeating same statement with no new facts.?

this week we need short term finance from shareholders at eye watering rates many times that of our rivals, today more ill formed comment.

there is huge vacuum, or real facts, plans and actions.

we have reduced players wages, or reduced strength, or cut costs. anthing positive and showing progress will do.


not 60 days and still looking, 70 days and still reviewing. ?

talk is cheap, actions speak louder than words.

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Talk maybe cheap but I for one will wait to see what the accts show before I will make any knee jerk reactions and so should everyone else

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Talk maybe cheap but I for one will wait to see what the accts show before I will make any knee jerk reactions and so should everyone else

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Expect interim accounts to show just £5m loss on year, down from £14m loss last year, and improvement on £11m as one offs no longer recuring.

but expect this to be achieved in reality by £20m revaluation of ibrox/mp being tranferred, so our club debt will jump from £16m last year to £36m this, and this reval will be added to real income to hide our real loses.

account can be massaged, and ibrox/mp which bought for £5m now appear in accounts with goodwill revaluations which are heading for £50m

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You must remember that any moves the club makes must be announced to stock market giving all details for shareholders or prospective shareholders to view

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27 Feb 2014 16:53:30

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{Ed039's Note - Guys, we now have a voting polls page which you will be able to see on the side menu, this is just for use on the site and I have posted the first question which is regarding Dave King and season ticket money. If anybody has any polls that they would like please just post a question to me and I will get them sorted out)

27 Feb 2014 09:28:52
{Ed033's Note - New poll added on whether you think boycott on Season Books should go ahead vote on the Rangers Voting Polls page.

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Ed33 - sorry but the question in the poll is not correct,

No where in Dave Kings statement did he say fans should boycott season tickets,

he said fans should "buy tickets" on certain conditions

what he said was

“If the board does not provide disclosure to the fans then it is time to draw a line in the sand. I propose that the fans buy the season tickets only on one of the two following bases:

1. The fans pay the season ticket money into a trust and the funds are released to the club on a “pay-as-they-play” basis.

2. The fans pay the season ticket money into a trust and the funds are released in full to the club but against security of the club property until such time as all games are played. In that way the fans will have some protection from a future event of failure if the board cannot bridge the funding gap that clearly exists.

Additionally, the fans should insist on a board appointee prior to renewing their season tickets, to look after their interests.

I also suggest that the following questions be put to the board on condition that satisfactory answers must be given prior to fans agreeing to make cash from season ticket sales available to the club.

1. Will the board provide legally binding assurances that the club is a going concern and has sufficient funds and/or facilities in place for the 2014/2015 season?

2. Will the board undertake that none of the proceeds from season ticket sales will be used to settle any financial obligation that arose prior to receipt of the season ticket monies by the club?

3. Will the board confirm that the club assets continue to be unencumbered?

4. Will the board explain its previous statements that the club had sufficient cash resources to last until the end of the season?

That is not a boycott

The DR may have said boycott but read the full statement,

King said no such thing

JG

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King did not use the term boycott but ''suggests'' that season tickets are not purchased and money should be ''drip fed'' to buy tickets as required.
Why does he not just say ''pay for a ticket as required''. Then you will be seated at random for tickets purchased. If that suits the punter, fine, but payment per game is usually more expensive.
Regarding the list of requests-----forget it, as there is as much chance of finding a snowball in hell.
Remember, it is a ticket to watch the team that is being purchased not a complete audit.

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Billyb - read above, that is exactly what KING said as I copied it straight from his statement with no editing

he proposed that the fans BUY tickets only on one of the two basis

condition 1
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condition 2

this is a better alternative to any boycott,

ST holders would have some assurances about where their money was going and the club would have access to the money for working capital,

he did suggest that 4 main questions be answered before the club is given access to the money

Is it workable?

that may be the problem!

JG

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JG- I think that Dave King is asking for what is not feasible or practical. I think he is trying to muddy the waters in his quest for control.
Without using the term, in my opinion, he is suggesting boycott.
The ticket purchase suggestions are not a reasonable proposition. It is akin to HP without the interest. What he should ask himself is '' would he go with it if the roles were reversed?

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Once again 100% right don't be used as pawns in d kings quest for power if he wishes to buy it must be done correctly because r f c can't stand any more costs for legal wrangles

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I don't believe DK is doing this to control Rangers as such, maybe use the fans money to influence policy is nearer the mark.
He simply does not want severe cuts so close to the SPL, he wants the shareholders to pay for one more years losses.
If nothing else it will force the Board to release the interim accounts sooner rather than later, and then the fans and DK can see for themselves where Rangers is going.
I expect a response from the Board to the fan's statement either tomorrow or Monday, hopefully it will be in the shape of the accounts.

DK knows his proposals are unworkable but it is a warning shot to the Board, we will soon find out their response.

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Have I been watching too many conspiracy movies or does the speed of the fans response to DK not seem unusual, almost coordinated.
I remember a lot of leaks got rid of CG when he wanted to downsize Rangers, wonder who at a high level still left at Ibrox would leak info to DK for the same reason?

How is Ally nowadays anyway?

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{Ed039's Note - You're not hinting at anyone in particular there are you bud lol :-)

27 Feb 2014 19:21:49
JG - leaving aside for a moment the question of whether or not its reasonable to interpret DK's comments as tantamount to a call for a boycott in the likely event that his specified conditions aren't met by the board. I wonder if you share his concerns that the recent loan arrangement is concerning? You were on here the other day with a few posts haughtily pronouncing that it didn't make sense to see the loan as suggesting there might be a risk of admin. Yet it's now clear that DK's not so sure about that, given that he's asking for clear reassurance from the board about it. I take that you'd say DK is overreacting to all this just like us other fools on here?

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Ed 039 - why would he be hinting at ed33, it was him that started the thread, wasn't it?

JG

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{Ed039's Note - I meant his hint at Mr McCoist, what are you talking about??)

Steerpike -far too many movies, he made his statement yesterday, we talking about it today? I don't see the issue

JG

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Ed I thought he was talking about the speed of the fans response?

Where does mccoist come in to that? Maybe I'm too far away to get it

JG

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{Ed039's Note - Yeah JG I think you need to read the post again, I think he is hinting at someone high up leaking info to DK, maybe Mr McCoist ....... the humour in the post is gone now though)

Pauline, has anyone asked about our other loan facility, have we used that up already, is it still there, if we have used it are we going to be able to repay it etcetcetc

Back to admin and kings question number 1 above,

I don't see how the board can answer that if they don't know yet what the income from sts and other sponsor deals may be,
has there been an announcement as to who will replace blackthorn?

It's impossible to make any assurances until our revenue can be known, it's P&B planning and budget

Plan your spending in line with your budget

JG

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27 Feb 2014 22:00:22
Great politician's answer JG. I think what DK and many others are concerned about is exactly what you now also seem to be accepting - ie the possibility of the club not being able to meet expenditure that we're already committed to if sufficient income isn't there. Your answer suggests you accept that whether or not we can do so will depend on ST sales and sponsorship deals yet to be agreed. Question is simple - does that ring any alarm bells for you at all? Its just you were so quick to poo poo others on here the other day who thought those exact same uncertainties were a tad worrying. Like skating on thin ice with fingers crossed it ain't going to crack. So let me ask again: are you still realaxed about it? Yes or no? And do you think DK is over reacting? Yes or no? Are you trying hard not to disagree with DK but also not admit you were too quick to sneer at other people's concerns about the finances the other day? Yes or no?

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N6 sp I think your right in your theory on dk wanting to make sure the shareholders pay for another seasons losses but I agree with him on this I don't think the big hitters put in enough money to cover losses or we wouldn't have had to borrow from laxey the asset strippers

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Pauline let me answer your questions

you wonder if I share his concerns regarding the loan arrangements?

Not really,

I see this as an indication that our finances will go down to the wire this season,
the board may have done some due diligence and arranged a 1.5m credit facility should it be required.
This would be based on a risk assessment and one item included in that will be the claim against the club by ahmed, the club needs to mitigate against all possible risks

am I relaxed about it?

I haven't been relaxed about anything regarding the running of the club since 14th February 2012

do I think DK is overreacting, No, he has his views on the club same as we all do, I don't doubt he is a fan and his previous investment in the club was well appreciated at that time, I just can't fathom out his strategy right now, shares are cheap and traded daily, if he is not buying then why

Do I admit I was quick to "sneer' at people, sorry if you don't like what I say but no way do I "sneer" at anyone on here
I was trying to explain that continued investment by shareholders is not a sign that we are on course for admin. no shareholder will benefit if the club goes into admin. an administrator would come in and all business will be conducted by them, shareholders, will have no say what happens and would lose their shares

Now you answer my question

have we used up our other credit facility?

JG

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Wallace announced that other credit facility all used up. been there, done that.

you don't take out loan at 30%, when there are lenders of last resort in london who only charge 20%, and real banks scalping busineess at 8%

base rate 0. 5%

spin can't help we skint, where has all the money gone??

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Anotherger - I missed that

when was that statement made?

JG

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ED it won't change a blooming thing we are stuck with McCoist but how about a poll on McCoist? Are the bears satisfied with his football management. I would think from posts I read on here it would be about 50 / 50 but who knows? But if the message finally got through to the likes of Dave King that support for AMcC is not as he currently thinks unquestioningly loyal and total he may change his point of view? I would be more supportive of any messiah who was open to all suggestions including boot the manager into the long grass PLEASE!

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27 Feb 2014 04:51:14
I have always wanted an input from Dave King, but must admit I do not like his recent tactic in the power battle.
Yes, we have been ripped off, in the past, but Mr Wallace is trying to stabilise things.
Maybe that is Mr King's problem, as it would cost more for an input should Wallace be successful.
Brinkmanship has always been the tactic of the pursuers of our club and just feel that King's recent actions are taking this to a new level.
There may be winners in the board room ''games'', but the club will be the loser.

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I agree 100% with billyb don't be fooled into be used as pawns in dave kings attempt to get the club on the cheap what he is asking is is to bring the club to the edge of the abyss there ould only one loser and that would be rangers mr wallace must be given the chance to sort things out I worry about the fans reaction yesterday what everyone must ask thereself is can u beleive dave king totally or is he putting his qwn spin on things

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To be fair to king, he's the only one to call it correct the last time, whilst everyone was saying it could never happen.

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BK. One thing I am not is easily deceived, but if you think that this is right way to go about business, your so, so wrong.
Yes, the arse has been ripped out the club, but King's actions will finish it. Do you honestly think that the current investors will allow it? Well think again.
As I stated in my original post I hoped King would invest, but what he asks is ridiculous and will be the final nail.
It is every supporter's right to pay for a ticket or not, but to have a supposedly respected businessman call for a boycott to satisfy his desires, is surprising and not in the club's interest.

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27 Feb 2014 13:14:59
A very valid point bill. I support dk but u make good points. Its so hard to know who is telling the truth. If we knew wallace was wot he seems to be then we would all get behind him 100%. Wot I can't get is why the two main players dk and gw are unable to meet and tell us the outcome of that meeting. Surely that would be feasable?
Tomblue

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If dave king wants to buy the club it should be done legally he can do a deal with the supporters shares paul murray and all the rest of would be owners that would put him in aposition that he would only have to buy some of the shares in the control of of the various bandets that own the shares and I am quite sure some of could now be persuaded to sell but witholding season book money is avery dangerous game to play let's get the club back on its feet by legal means and don't continue with the sharp pratices tha have been used in the past anyone who thinks the club could survive another administration should think again a points deduction next season would make it very difficult to gain promotion next year the very fact g wallace is at the minute working on ways to put things right and the fact that the interim results are not yet known everyone should stand back and wait till what that brings and what packages to bring the club into profit will be so bears think on a bit before any rash action is taken aremember every one who wants to take on the buisness then utter the immortal words its for the good of the club aye right there may be a bit of good foe the club but the first bit is for them

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@op Wallace is a liar just like green and Mather he's lied about being in contact with dk and about the finances if there's enough money in the clubs account till the end of the season then why take out a loan I was all for giving them some time but the more I think about it they are doing nothing different from the previous boards

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27 Feb 2014 12:53:18
Personally I support Dk. Always have dun. he has invested millions b4 and is happy to do so again. From wot I've read today Mr King doesn't want Rangers to stay within their means were we are at the minute for the simple reason that would allow our rivals to expand the gap between us. dK wants to invest in the team and then. once we are safely back in the top dit. We can take stock. and engage in a long term action plan wiich Does suit our future income. Which should be similar to selliks if evrything is done in the proper manner. But of course it all requires the correct people in charge. And AmC has a good relationship wi Dk. Unfortunatly.
Tomblue. Any thots Ed?

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{Ed039's Note - My thoughts are, if he has investors lined up, then why not launch an aggresive take over of the club if he is that concerned? My thoughts on King are he wants involved, but only if it is on the cheap, I can assure you, if I had his sort of cash, I would not be waiting, making statements to fight the machine, I would be going in head first and trying to get things done)

Ed039 if King launched agressive takeover it would cost £30m+ just to buy shares (at highest price in last year) and then he may find these shares don't own any assets or rights which could then be on other hands (rangers retail, rangers security etc etc).

Thats a lot of money spent just to find out who owns what. why would any millionare pay money for nothing.?

Current value on stock market is £18m - so why pay more to get that and loose £12m in the transaction. when in month or two you could buy whole lot for £5 as before.

If £8m ST money is held on trust - it can be fed in month by month, not disappeared like the other £30m. ?

Our greatest risk at this moment is £8m is added to the £30m pile that disappeared, and in Sept there is nothing left. and £40m has vanished, not just £22m+£8m+£8m.

Others raised trust for ST. year ago, looks like it gaining traction, or fans don't buy STs and just pay at gate.

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S scandalous to call g wallace a liar we have only dave kings side of the story I am amazed how people beleive what they read inthe press after the way the club have been treated by the media I for one recall d king stating that he had held talks with all partys concerned in the battle for boardroom power in fact he said the talks were positive so how can he now say no one has spoken to him mr wallace should be given a chance to do his job without being branded a liar rangers used to lead the way in how aclubshould be run with honesty and respect and its high time we get back to yhat way of working

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Ed u have got in one dave king is the same as all the rest if he want tobuy put his money on the table

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{Ed039's Note - Thats a very simple view on it, and I know it isnt as simple as that but seems he wants alot for not very much)

Correct edmundo

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@lbj d how's it scandalous to brand him a liar and it's nothing to do with what I've read he has said there's enough money in the clubs account to get to the end if the season so why take a loan also what have this board been doing different than what the previous boards have nothing

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Why woulld anyone wish to buy seriously damaged goods. That unfortunatly is what our great team is at the present time. All King is saying is put the season ticket money in a big pot under control of the fans groups to be handed over on a game for game basis. what's wrong with that? It protefts all our money from the current rouges and allows us the fans a say in some respect of where our monies go. At no point do I see King wishing to have any control of the money or taking control of our future destiny, in fact all he is doing is advising us where best our koney could be used. If there are problems in respect of lack of funds then Wallace will have to at last be more open and say so, if not our money being held in a fsn account gathering intrest will not be a problem to him and the board.

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They have not been given the money in one tranch its been given as a facility to be drawn as andwhen nec until the accts become available ther is no way we need to disbeleive g wallace and I think even if dk took over wallaceshould continue in the job give the man a chance to do the job because right now he needs help to get there not be ambushed on the way

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Bear82 do u know if there is not enough money to last till end of season wallace is not daft he would not make that statement if it was not true unless u have a crystal ball or have privledge information at this stage u cannot call him a liar wild comments like that does not help anything the opposite in fact wallace could say to himself why do I want all the hassle and walk away then we are left up s*** creek without the famous paddle please show some respect for the man

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N14 you beat me to it yes I believe in dk but ide also like mr wallace kept at club but now we must hope that no bad blood comes between them

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