Rangers Banter Archive October 27 2017

27 Oct 2017 21:50:22
Personally I would like to see Tommy Wright or Chris Coleman get the job Bears.
If we cannot get someone in permanently asap then we should get Smith in to run things until then. don't get me wrong I like Murty but if we need someone to steady the ship Smith is the Man!

27 Oct 2017 23:14:45
Tommy Wright has a done a fantastic job at St Johnstone but for me he's not ready for a job as big as ours.

27 Oct 2017 23:44:04
Although i rate derek mcinnes as a good manager, he wouldn't be my own personal no.1 choice! I'll back any glasgow rangers manager, to the hilt,
always have done! It looks very very likely that derek mcinnes WILL be our new manager and if that does come to pass, then i'll be backing him 100%! Hearing that aberdeen are resigned to losing mcinnes to rangers and have seemingly drawn up 2 candidates to replace mcinnes! They are looking at tommy wright the st. johnstone manager and jack ross the st. mirren manager!

28 Oct 2017 09:17:42
I hope you are right Supercoop, Jack Ross is the only Scottish based manager that appeals to me really. Obviously he is early in his career but the nature of our position now means that we need players on the way up and maybe a manager on the way up is the way to go too. It’s just a gut feeling with guy!

28 Oct 2017 09:24:54
Read your post wrong Coop, it’s Aberdeen who will go for Ross!

27 Oct 2017 20:08:10
What would have happened to PC if our penalty went in? What if the foul in their box never happened at all and we saw out the 1-0, what if we beat hearts on Sat after that, do we think they would have sacked him? I'd love to know the truth, it's a shame if Candeas and Jack lost him his job, there were some unlucky results earlier in the season too where we played well. Good luck PC for the future and some of us are sorry your the victim of disgusting journalism, an inside cliche once again, and dinosaurs with no backbone and no desire to make the SPL an entertaining product that people might eventually start watching again. Mcleish, Davies, big Sams bus parking, Moyes (please no no no) . can't wait zzzzzzzzzzzzz.

27 Oct 2017 20:26:52
matt_rfc! Is this post for real or are you taking the urine? Pedro"s sacking was nothing to do with the press or anybody else! Pedro was sacked because he was an abysmal manager who should never have been allowed anywhere near our club! And I think you meant clique and not cliche mate?

27 Oct 2017 20:57:06
Matt if I could hit agree 1 million times it wouldn’t be enough absolutely brilliant and true, it’s exactly what I believe, well bring on the next hammer thrower!

Good luck Pedro!

27 Oct 2017 21:14:58
The next hammer thrower? Have a word with yourself man! Awww! He was such a nice guy, and if it wasn't for those pesky journalists or realists, he would have got away with it. I'm sorry, but that is one steaming pile of crap you've just spouted there mate. Pedro, nice guy he might be, does not deserve any sympathy what do you want here mate? Do you want a crap team and to keep a guy in charge who is way out of his depth just because he is a nice guy? Or do you want to get someone in who can improve the team and get us going in the right direction? Over to you

27 Oct 2017 21:31:55
Slk what I want to see plain and simple is football not 11 workmen v 11 workmen kicking lumps out each other maybe that’s your style!
my father was a great footballer and I myself liked to play skilfull football growing up I also played at a decent level, I believe Pedro had a good football philosophy however we keep witnessing that it clearly can not work in Scotland!
Which is rather sad!

27 Oct 2017 21:53:23
Daz I'm no football expert here. All I want is my team to be successful and get back to where we belong. I'm not sticking up for the media mate. I don't have much, if any, time for Scottish media. And for the sports hacks Like Jackson and co. They mean nothing to me! One thing I am is a realist who will voice my concern when I see the team I love go from one mess to another. I can't, nor I won't, back a dead horse like Pedro. Yeah, he probably was a decent guy but he was no footballing guru who was on a higher plateau to us oiks! I don t ask for much. Neither do I crave a good old fashioned on field kicking and leg breaking. I only want a competent manager who knows what he's doing and can hold a conversation us blood thirsty ruffians can understand. Is that too much to ask my silky skilled fellow? I mean no offence. I am but just a simple lad.

27 Oct 2017 22:10:04
Yes I ment clique, autocorrect gets a lot of posters on here I notice. When did I say he was a nice guy? Mcleish and Moyes are nice guys and know just what mundane tried and tested brand of football and brand of interview techniques you have to dish out to be safe up here. Sorry you don’t agree that’s fine I’m not trying to sway anyone’s opinion I just hope we get another foreigner and it’s successful this time. I hope the foreigner makes us play technical football just like successful countries in Europe too. PC had balls and the dinosaurs in the press jumped on it to sell stories an get clicks on their site. How many times did you read someone launched a “Scathibg” or “Brutal” attack as they put it and when you read the story it was laughable? Unless this attitude changes we will stay a long long way down the UEFA co efficient, I wanted all the interest we were generating from South America, we could have got young talent over who were looking for a way intonEuropean football, it was all being set up, links with Chivas etc, a different project something outside of the box. Well I hope we all enjoy it if a “Rangers man” steadiies the ship bla bla bla. Groundhog Day.

27 Oct 2017 23:08:25
matt, have to agree. philosophy was there, maybe he came too soon. i really don't know what the future holds for us. no scottish team playing scottish football will ever do well in europe. anyway ill still be there supporting whoever. i guarantee though it won't be long before the booers are at it again i fear.

27 Oct 2017 23:29:39
The guy couldn't win 3 games in a row in 7 months. Forget his nationality, it's irrelevant, if he was Scottish or a rangers legend that stat would still have got him the sack. The bottom line is, you can talk about methodology and bamboozle people with technical jargon til the cows come home but if your not getting results then you won't last long, all you have to do as rangers manager is win. Plain and simple, The fans just want to see the team win on a regular basis. that's it. Simple as you like.

28 Oct 2017 00:52:24
Slk 73 the reason we are all on this page is for the love of this club, I hope we can can agree to disagree on some of the things we have said it’s all through thinking about our club 24/ 7 and having it’s best interest at heart!

All I, sorry, we want is transparency, consistency fight and heart Pedro showed he had passion I want to see passion i feel passionate, I want fight, I want the heart on the sleave of the jersey!

28 Oct 2017 07:59:17
If we had won on Wed it would just have delayed the enevitable. bottom line was he was in over his head in a job that was to big for him and his record was shocking. nothing to do with the media or journos, that's just clutching at straws now

28 Oct 2017 09:22:01
100% mate. Two things we all have in common are the love of our club and the desire to see us back at the top of Scottish football. But, until we bring in the right manager, and invest in players who can actually play, then that desire will remain only a pipedream. Pedro was never the answer! If you, and anyone else, thought that he was some forward thinking visionary who was ahead of his time for this backwater league, then unfortunately my friend there will be many a disagreement between us. The man was pure and simple mince. He is, and never will be, a manager!
Let's be honest here guy's. If Celtic had a manager who was constantly talking crap, couldn't string 3 victories in a row together, was sitting fourth in the league having spent millions sssembling a team, and was falling out with their longest serving players, we would be all over it ripping him to bits. The fact that some are actually still backing him is unbelievable! As much as the majority will never admit it, and this won't go down well, he couldn't lace Brenda Rodgers boots!

27 Oct 2017 19:10:27
Glad to see some on here being balanced enough to consider that David Moyes would be a good move for us. The predictable pelters will no doubt follow but, be honest guys, he's a highly respected (Scottish! ) coach who's managed at a far higher level than where we are at present or are likely to be for a while yet and his ill-fated reign at Man Utd wasn't entirely his fault was it?

As much as I agree that McInnes would be an obvious, easy target, do we really want someone and who has only managed the "best of the rest" in Scotland? Let's face it, Celtic (and I have no problem using their proper name unlike some on here who are basically disrespectful which just fuels the hatred between our clubs - what's wrong with just having the matchday rivalry and being civil in between? ) are miles ahead in Scotland while still lacking in the European context. Think I'd be happier handing whatever cash can be scraped up for players to Moyes who has at least worked at a far higher level than McInnes has (or probably ever will) .

27 Oct 2017 19:29:56
Our next choice is critical, the new man must be shown patience but also must the British scene and Scottish game, for me David Moyes is the most experienced coach with a big club mentality, he wouldn't be overawed with his appointment, he has done well with Everton and for Sit Alex to vouch for him he must have something, I know his Dad still has season ticket at ibrox so don't see the Celtic connection as a probs, also good luck to Pedro as he was just out his depth as would other be, must be the right appointment now!

27 Oct 2017 19:38:21
Actually a very good and balance post mate, sadly I think you are asking too much to ask your fellow supporters to call Celtic their actual name etc. They are too busy hiding behind their laptops as in the real world they will behave and call it what it is ofcourse.
That's apart from the usual bigot in a suit that Timalloy highlights in our forum and sadly we all know one, when they get together and you will know this more than me but when they are at their clubs (lodges) we know the terminology they really use.

27 Oct 2017 20:16:42
I thought Moyes would have been a decent choice for the Celtic job before they got Rodgers.

Celtic would have suited him more as they are obviously top dogs at the moment and he could practically be guaranteed trophies, with Rangers this would be a far tougher ask and he desperately needs success after his three previous jobs.

So, I doubt he would take on the job but if he did I would be happy enough.

27 Oct 2017 20:47:58
dont come on a forum here and make a stupid presumption all rangers fans use that language and attend lodges rayman.

28 Oct 2017 08:03:37
@snell - that sums up the Celtic support in a nutshell, they are Always Offended, Never Ashamed. They think bigotry, sectarianism is a one way street forgetting there own supports failings.

28 Oct 2017 09:13:50
Moyes has failed at a higher level than Mcinnes that's true.

28 Oct 2017 09:16:39
And how do you refer to Rangers fans rayman? "Our friends across the city" perhaps.

28 Oct 2017 12:05:26
Jyf I call them rangers fans or current buns for fun, as u would call us tims I don't think either is offensive.
Onion jack I am not offended in the slightest I just think its sad it still goes on as I have heard it all my life, indeed my dad and 2 brothers are rangers fans and although they don't say it now they used to back in the day and its all I heard esp when u were winning.
I talking about the fans who think its ok to say and do in private (and I have heard it many times when they think i not in ear shot) what they would never say publicly.
In fact I regularly go to a local club which is predominately rangers men and and some of the stuff I hear beggars belief.
A question I would ask u mate, do you think your own supporters are holding your club back?

27 Oct 2017 17:43:16
So, McCoist says "You never know" when asked if he would consider going back to Ibrox as manager. Bring back Pedro now if that is the case!
I really do hope this was a tongue n' cheek response to the question with no chance if this ever happening. Or, do you think the board might see this as a chance to get a manager in on the cheap? After all, Ally likes to sign contracts without even reading over the terms and the board could snap him up for a fiver a week.

27 Oct 2017 17:59:56
is he worth that much

27 Oct 2017 18:32:06
Knew somebody would pick up on this comment.

If you listen to the actual interview. He explains why he said 'you never know', because he said Rangers are the club he loves and always has loved since a wee boy, and he would never say no to Rangers.

Don't worry, Ally won't be back.

27 Oct 2017 19:44:09
I'm not worried at all BearMode. Surely my sacarsam shone through in the post? If not, I'll try and make sure I highlight it a little better in the future just so you can pick up on it. Anything I can do to help mate just ask.

28 Oct 2017 07:53:22
Listen stop slating super ally yes the management side of the game isn't for him but buy god the guy was a sensational player for us and am sure he love the club just as much as us and as for Pedro a do wish him all the best and was gutted it didn't work out for him but to me the dressing room was to much divided and a just wish him and the back room staff all the best.

27 Oct 2017 14:57:41
For me, being realistic, the man for the job is Derek Mcinnes.

However, unrealistic or unlikely, for me would be Big Sam or Davie Moyes.

Before folk shoot me down about Moyes, yes he played for them, but he was brought up a Rangers fan and he's the type of presence I feel would bring the fear factor back to the club.

27 Oct 2017 15:11:57
The fear factor at Old Trafford disappeared under Moyes and he inherited a very good squad. Not for me.

27 Oct 2017 15:40:19
As i said elsewhere,

Don't understand the clamour for McInnes

Has never managed a big club, has never proved himself under pressure. let's not forget that at Aberdeen he has had it fairly easy since being there.

Apart from the Dhims he has not had much else to beat.
4 of the top six scottish teams were not in the SPL for periods. Us Hearts hibs and D United. He couldn't have failed to be 2nd under the circumstances.

Average at best imo.

27 Oct 2017 16:29:04
Fair point mate, though I do think there were many factors to Manchester United's downfall, mainly due to the fact Sir Alex left.

Hence why there is still no real fear factor at Old Trafford, despite big name managers taking the reigns since Moyes.

Remember Rodgers was not a particularly 'successful' manager in terms of honours, but he has experience at the highest level and it's done Celtic absolute wonders.

27 Oct 2017 17:15:13
Fergie left Man Utd knowing that he had an ageing team that needed a big overhaul. It wasn’t a season of change required and it was a huge ask for any manager to follow in his foot steps. I think Moyes would be a great appointment alongside big Duncan Ferguson as his assistant 👍🏼
Looks likely that board will make McInnes no1 target and I believe this is Walters preference and he will be consulted.
My personal choice would be Monk

27 Oct 2017 17:21:25
Moyes was left a terrible Utd squad

27 Oct 2017 17:47:01
pedro was left a terrible squad too

27 Oct 2017 19:52:51
Which Pedro made even worse than what it was! How the hell was that even poosible? Can I just clarify something geesadodothat? Are you trying to rationalize Pedro's position?

28 Oct 2017 07:51:59
David moyes no way, allardyce no way, mcinnes no way. Billy reid who the eff is he. We need a real manager big eck, tommy wright, watty smith, greame souness. But we will know when the board appoint someone and hope they are a big name and are proven winners.

28 Oct 2017 07:52:10
I don't want Moyes but to be fair, anyone was going to struggle with that gig after Sir Alex left.

27 Oct 2017 14:30:27
I am sad that it didn't work out under Caxhina, but the results and performances just weren't good enough in the end. He did bring in some good players such as Alves, Dorrans, Jack, Morelos, Candeiasand John so hopefully the new manager has a fair squad to deal with. I'd be keen to see either Mcinnes or Moyes, both scottish with good experience, but until then I'm sure Murty will get the best out of the team. C'mon the Gers!

27 Oct 2017 13:34:42
Well bears it really is time to unite as fans we need to get right behind the next manager as a whole the home games need to have the fans together with passion echoing around the stands no more silence our players need us as much as we need each other!

Mon the gers!

27 Oct 2017 13:50:51
not going to happen. there isn't a manager out there who will do it. just listen to the mixed choices in here. if that's a representation of all fans no matter who comes in certain people will hate him and hope he fails

27 Oct 2017 15:20:08
Dazbear, I agree totally and the fact that some Bears disagree with your post beggars belief. Support our team People. The clue's in the title SUPPORTERS.

27 Oct 2017 15:32:53
Thanks rt rn rf well if the fans can not unite what chance have we got?

28 Oct 2017 07:49:14
If he does a good job then no one will hate him. Simple

27 Oct 2017 12:49:22
While we hound out different styles of football and managers and players from different cultures, cultures btw that produce the European champions, the SPL will forever be a rubbish product. Huddersfield Town finished 19th in their first season with an unknown foreign manager, season after they play in the premier league and just won v Man-u. So somewhere down the line we get things right and start challenging Celtic again and even wining the league. But then we still have two of our best teams that can't get past the group stage in the CL, the SPL will still be a product that no one wants to throw TV money at, and are right back to 10 years ago still being laughed at around the world for getting excited about winning a so called "Micky Mouse league". Our games have been live this year on ESPN Latin America and people around the world were thinking about investing again, this would have just been the start of a massive change, it was an innovative appointment and I can see what they were tying to achieve. But no let's get big Eck in again or whoever and steady the ship then moan at the fact we can't compete with top Greek or Turkish sides in a few years again like a broken record. Not many people see the bigger picture and its actually frightening that people want to go backwards. I hope we get another foreign manager, and I hope more SPL teams do. do the EPL teams use English managers at the top end? No! . Cue the pelters.

27 Oct 2017 13:34:42
its a fair argument mate, scottish football doesn't want to change or look at new ideas though as it would cost all the average joes polluting our league their jobs. as a footballing nation we accept mediocrity for folk to protect their own interests. i enjoy watching different leagues throughout Europe but you couldn't pay me to watch any spl game that didn't involve us

27 Oct 2017 14:01:02
1st bit of sense i have read, well said mate. in a country where success lies solely in taking points of celtic more than potentially qualifying in europe makes me laugh, but oh well. if that's good enough for the masses who am i to complain. let's always go backwards, never thought rangers would sack a guy after 3 months. bearing in mind before everyone jumps on the bandwagon that tailend of last season was to solely identify who was good enough to play his style. i am sure after christmas with a couple of more of his own signings things would have changed. but no we want to win a league we won't win for next couple years no matter who the manager is. god help us all

27 Oct 2017 14:25:26
It's not that fair, listen just because pedro was a European stands for nothing, ultimately he was a crap manager, as for Huddersfield they have got themselves a very good manager, I get your point about Scotland being crap but if Rangers get a decent manager things will change, even with the same players, pedro man management was shocking, he picked a fight with anyone and everyone, the board must get the next appointment right or fans may turn on them

27 Oct 2017 14:51:05
my statement was about scottish football as a whole and i couldn't agree more that if we get a decent manager in then things will change for the better. fact of the matter is though mate, there are a number of posts saying "has to be british" or "has to be rangers" which excludes 99% of managers regardless of whether they have a good record or not. i don't care if the next gaffer is ex rangers, british or if he comes from freakin mars as long as he is good enough to sort out the issues that we have

27 Oct 2017 14:58:49
it will also be interesting to see if this big shot DoF earns his corn and actually has a part to play in recruiting the new guy

27 Oct 2017 23:01:28
Glad to see I’m not the only one who’s not narrow minded Snel. I’m so disappointed, did it not show everyone what this guy can get us when he got Bruno Alves. I don’t care what people say he still gets in the European champions side. I wander who else would have come on board and got involved in the project. How did we look against Marsaile as a footballing team anyway lads? I remember it was a football match not an SPL rugby match? This could have been the start or the boot up the arse the SPL needed. we’ll never know now and it’s a shame

28 Oct 2017 07:46:02
Sorry Matt. Can't agree with any of that. Are you saying you would have been happy to stick with Pedro? Really?

27 Oct 2017 11:56:36
Maybe it is time for Brian Kennedy to come back in with his money along with Graeme Souness and how about Michael Laudrup as manager? One other long shot is David Moyes. I know he is ex-Septic but he did well at Everton for years on a limited budget in the toughest league in the world and nobody could have followed Fergie at Man Utd and succeeded (and nobody has since) . Just another thought! I can't see the attraction with McInnes. Surely if he had managed to actually beat Celtic and win a cup he'd be a prospect?

27 Oct 2017 12:27:31
He has beaten Celtic albeit under Deila and won a League Cup and made Aberdeen better than they've been in decades. I don't think McInnes is perfect but he seems to be a decent tactician, a good man manager and knows how to handle the media, three things that Caxinha never managed to pull off.

I think he deserves careful consideration.

27 Oct 2017 13:03:11
all day long mcinnes is the man for the job he knows our game he loves our club and as stated above he is a good mana manager and knows what tactics to use in the scottish game.

he may not be the manager to come and take us to the top but he would definitely get us better than the rest which is all we can hope for until we have money from european competitions

27 Oct 2017 13:13:17
Don't understand the clamour for McInnes

Has never managed a big club, has never proved himself under pressure. let's not forget that at Aberdeen he has had it fairly easy since being there.

Apart from the Dhims he has not had much else to beat.
4 of the top six scottish teams were not in the SPL for periods. Us Hearts hibs and D United. He couldn't have failed to be 2nd under the circumstances.

Average at best imo.

27 Oct 2017 11:28:38
What ever happened to Jordan prodan rossiter.

27 Oct 2017 11:43:28
He's injured again

27 Oct 2017 13:04:55
i have a feeling this boy is exactly the type of player we need but unfortunatley he won't ever be fit for more than 5 games

27 Oct 2017 10:20:32
no matter who the next manager is he needs to drop miller from the team and make him a coach and i'd say the same for wallace as he just hasn't got it anymore.

we need a lb a rb a big rogic type in the middle of the park.

27 Oct 2017 13:10:34
im all for loyalty and that, that's why i'm saying keep them there in a coaching job but as players they just don't have what it takes to make us great

27 Oct 2017 08:02:52
With all injuries and suspensions how do you all think the team will line up v Hearts? .

27 Oct 2017 09:26:38
Fod
Tav
McCrorie
Danny Wilson
John
Candy Ass
Dorrans
Barjonas
Windass
Morelos
Herrera

27 Oct 2017 09:26:57
Fod tav mcrorie bates Wilson john candias barjonas holt Miller morelos

27 Oct 2017 09:30:58
Apologies missed Holt out. Holt instead of Herrera in a 4-5-1

27 Oct 2017 09:47:15
Alnwick; Tavernier, McCrorie, Bates, John; Dorrans, Holt, Candeias, Barjonas; Morelos, Hardie

If fit, I'd find a place for Rossiter and Kranjcar (remember him? )

27 Oct 2017 09:50:35
Foderingham


McCrorie
Aidan Wilson
Danny Wilson

Tavernier
Holt
Dorrans
John

Pena

Miller
Morelos

This is what I’d go with if all fit and available.

Rossiter in for Holt and Alves for Aiden Wilson once they are back and Candeias/ Tavernier could rotate where required as neither offer much defensively.

Hererra to be used off the bench if we need to go long until we can get Moult in to partner Morelos.

Ryan Jack to spend some time on the bench to reflect.

27 Oct 2017 13:17:18
candias in my opinion is better at going forward and better at defending than tav and candias for me has been our best player this season so far he always deliveres into the box some beutifull deliveries and we didn't sign a moult type player that's good at attacking them.

we must get a better pair of fullbacks and play john as a wigner as he has no fear and can rip a few people .

i think he is one to watch

27 Oct 2017 05:01:36
Ally mccoist to get another go at the club you heard it hear first guys

my source is my own head thinking of one of the worst cases after I just read he hasn't ruled himself out of a return.

27 Oct 2017 05:41:07
With the amount of gardening leave he's had bet he would make a cracking groundsman 😂😂

27 Oct 2017 09:49:19
You think the club has just spent a fortune sacking a total dud in order to bring in a proven total dud who couldn't get us out of the second tier of Scottish football or win the Petrofac Cup?

26 Oct 2017 23:25:59
Mciness, big sam, wright or o, Neill. Would take any of them but are they as good a manager as Brenda?

They are not but they are certainly a lot better then Pedro and I couldn't imagine any of there teams going out without a fight like we have many times under pedro.

If we seriously want to challenge we would have to take a risk in someone like Bilic or Ranieri but no chance we can afford it and it could go either way with them.

Slightly worried with Murty in charge and would not fancy him in charge to long.

To he fair anything will be an improvement in Pedro surely, would take Mile Bassett over him lol.