Rangers Banter Archive August 28 2015

28 Aug 2015 20:14:31
Glad to see that the board have come to their senses and invited the BBC back to Ibrox.

28 Aug 2015 17:58:13
mr warburton says there will not be anymore transfer business at rangers he's happy with the squad he has assembled there could be a couple of young players going out on loan like robbie crawford etc talks are on going but no one new coming inwards as for john eustice once he's fit he will be signed he said

28 Aug 2015 20:31:06
Amusing that you think that MW has any say in transfer business. Do you think if he had a say he would have signed the freebies and unwanted players and loanees that we did? Every manager has to work within the budget that is dictated to him by the board / owner. We are in such bad shape that it is terrifying. We are down to bare bones financially and squad wise. Wake up.

28 Aug 2015 23:04:16
We sign a load of promising players from the English championship and English league 1 (warburton has spent the last 5 years at this level) and you think he had no say in the signings? If we had a budget similar to barcelona we wouldn't have signed these players but we don't, we have a scottish premier league budget and we have signed players based on this. Tell me what players you expected us to sign? Who could we attract to play in the scottish championship? Were you expecting la liga or bundesliga players? Maybe high end english championship players? I think you have your head firmly in the sand. or you're not a rangers fan. The players we have signed are nearly all of a much higher standard than anything you see in scotland other than celtic (even that's up for debate). Add the loan signings into the mix and we have a squad cababke of winning the league and maybe a cup or decent cup run and we will win then strengthen again next summer if we get promoted and can attract a slightly better standard of player.

{Ed001's Note - 100% Warburton is involved in choosing the players, it was the only way he would take the job.}

28 Aug 2015 23:11:35
Abhabh of course the manager had a say in those that have signed ,most of them have worked under mw before,you don't have any info on what went on behind the scenes,the gaffer was brought to the club with his knowledge of the championship and lower leagues in England,he has Hugh respect down the road thus clubs willing to send there future stars up here,under the managers watchful eyes.

28 Aug 2015 23:30:08
ABHABH are you having a laugh!

You think MW didn't have a say in the freebies and the unwanted players and loanees we have.

Would that be the same ones that have made our team the most exciting they have looked in years?

If he wasn't responsible for these "unwanted" players, then there must be someone within Ibrox with a good eye for a player that would fit into the system MW had in mind.

Rocket

28 Aug 2015 23:40:08
mw has every say in these players that have came to club if wasnt for him these players would not want play for our club he has attracted them to the club looking at our squad it is way stronger than last year and the bench has quality on it now that can change a game abhabh you must be about the only one on hear that can not see we are miles better squad wise as for money wise I do not no as king promised he would spend money this season and we are yet to see any serious money come from him I doubt any will come I just hope he is banking it for next season to buy better quality players on our return to the top league

29 Aug 2015 00:11:47
ABHABH I used to be a lot like you couldn't see the good in anything at ibrox & for the most part I was right. We' are on a better path now I have no doubt in my mind. It's still a long winding road but we will slowly but surely get there. I've heard you say we have an unwanted manager & your slating the players we've signed because there freebies. Give me 11 Wilsons, Hallidays, Holts, Taverneirs & Waghorns they're all excellent signing. Then there's Wes & Rob who I'm still passing judgement on but still all of them could command a transfer fee bigger than any of, Law, Clark, Sheils, Temps etc. I will always keep my eyes & ears open these days but there's no indication that were going anywhere but up.

29 Aug 2015 02:18:04
He was only saying he was happy with the squad,not a comment on the finances of the board, of course every manager would want more money. Also I think it would be normal if you bought over any company the size and complexity of rangers that had been run badly and at a loss by destructive owners you would take time to asses everything before throwing unnecesary money at it. Its not even been 6 months and I think we have already improved significantly on the squad, manager, coaches, staff, ticket sales, club stability, reputation and football. Dire stuff sack the board because we haven't spent a few million to win the championship

29 Aug 2015 10:49:55
Read what I said. I didn't say he didn't choose the players we brought in. I'm saying there is no way that they would have been his realistic first choices. Yes the football is better than last year and that is a cause for optimism.

29 Aug 2015 12:03:14
Abhabh, he has said in interviews, including the latest one, that the board have backed him fully in terms of transfers and that he is happy with the squad he's assembled. Before taking the job weir also stated budgets etc were discussed and they were more than happy to work within it. Correct me if I'm wrong but king's quote on this was he'd be willing to spend whatever it took to achieve promotion. Do you see any reason why we won't get promoted this year given the start we've made and the not so promising start our rivals have made? Has he not fulfilled that agreement so far or are you too far gone in terms of being anti-king to acknowledge he's given warburton the financial tools to do the job in the division we are in? What do you actually want to see happen? Pay inflated fees and wages to get out of this league? Tried that one last year, guess you were happy with the outcome of that approach, smh.

29 Aug 2015 14:02:33
spart7 you are exactly the type of fan that the board are relying on. The type who is willing to believe everything the board say. Promotion is not a given. The boards plan relies on 45k season tickets being sold, we fell well short of that and therefore face a very real prospect of an insolvency event and a points deduction.

29 Aug 2015 14:26:18
ABHABH: Nothing is a given, but I would suggest promotion looks highly likely, Nd as for insolvency, nah I don't think so.

29 Aug 2015 17:45:29
Scotjo. Where do you think the money will come from to get through this season?

29 Aug 2015 18:11:31
Looks like it's already getting us through, don't think the management team would've come without assurances.

29 Aug 2015 19:29:56
Abhabh, liquidation? Seriously? Smh. Only reason cva wasn't agreed previously was the threat of two massive hmrc bills dropping through potential purchasers door. That's why we ultimately faced liquidation. Say your worst (best?) case scenario comes true and we enter admin2 give me a good reason a cva couldn't be agreed this time around. Btw I'm neither pro nor anti king, I'm pro rangers and I've some concerns currently, mainly the lack of accountants and market listing but he's also got a helluva lot right so far too. Management team and playing squad, stadium repairs underway, new appointments and telling warburton he can set up scouting network for example. Compare that to green who retained ally to keep fans onside and systematically pillaged the club for north of 70m whilst totally destroying the entire infrastructure of our club. From getting rid of long term employees to leaving the stadium and training facilities to rot he did nothing to improve how things were. Then there's your apparent beloved saviour Ashley. You need to take your head out of the sand with that one, he'd be worse for rangers than green was, ask ed001 or any Newcastle fan. King will get time from me as there are too many positives currently for me to doubt his intentions are anything other than in the best interests of rangers. Doesn't mean I won't question things from time to time.

29 Aug 2015 22:56:12
ABHABH

One minute you think Warburton had to take in unwanted players because King never opened his wallet

The next your going on about liquidation because of lack of money!

Present new exciting squad cost very little which has allowed the club to spend money on Ibrox, which was desperately needed.

Had we spend money on big headed so called SPL quality players would we be playing better football? I personally don't think so. If we had we maybe closer to the liquidation you seem to think may happen while watching our stadium fall down around us.

I for one am very impressed in the transformation in the team and the way the directors have gone about their business trying to get us back to where we belong. You must have a very short memory if you've forgotten the shambles on the park last season and also about the way our club was being run by a bunch of conmen!

30 Aug 2015 09:43:29
I never mentioned liquidation but administration is a very real possibility. But you guys ignore all that as we have a team who are winning.

30 Aug 2015 15:55:01
Abhabh I've got to add to my post above,I disagree with you completely on this one,mark war button has never been a guy for throwing cash about,that's how he made his name doing things on a shoestring budget,and his next gen program made a few sit up and believe in his way of doing things,so onwards and upwards under current management team.

30 Aug 2015 17:33:08
ABHABH : What did we ignore, insolvency? Because that is what you said, not administration.

28 Aug 2015 13:25:43
Celtic to face Ajax, Fenerbahce and Molde. can't wait to see all the usual comments saying they will get through

bet most of them ar making up there excuses as I type this

28 Aug 2015 17:13:35
Ajax,Fenerbahce & Molde are a world apart from,Alloa,Airdrie,Dumbarton!!.

28 Aug 2015 17:30:51
They will see some class players, not as good as real or psg .But fenerbahce have some top players. thing I miss most these past couple of years is actually seeing descent players.

28 Aug 2015 17:32:58
This is a rangers page lol

28 Aug 2015 17:53:11
Aye, but Alloa, Airdrie and Dumbarton won't dish us out 6 rankings mate 😉

28 Aug 2015 18:22:30
Mf1690 exactly.

29 Aug 2015 02:01:48
my post wake to the Celtic fans who commeNt on a Ragers forum.so I decided to look at their forum for the first time.

weeL that arre not happy and more negative post on the team and particularly the board. yes there is the old boring Sevco sh**e ( Please get over it)

PL has used the demise of Rangers to reduce their funding for players, employ an unknown as a manager. buy players that don't need but still pay shareholders their annual premiums no matter what. Now RFC are emerging to be back in the top flight next season they are panicking and you can tell by the recent posts.

they had their chance but failed, roll on the future of RFC as we are about to take back what is rightly ours. Scotland's most famous club.

29 Aug 2015 09:29:24
Nothing is rightly anybody's and that is why a lot of fans have enjoyed this period in Rangers history. You come across as some pathetic landed gentry with your "rightly ours" crap. Now most of us (yourselves included) are normal enough working class folk who wouldn't stomach that approach from some Lord, Duke or whatever, so why should we tolerate it's nonsense claim in a football sense?

Football is perhaps what the rest of society should be like, a meritocracy, where we are inspired by Wimbledon winning FA Cups, Aberdeen beating Real Madrid's in Cup Winners Cup finals, Inverness and Berwick knocking the old firm out of the Scottish Cup.

We're Rangers hand over the trophies doesn't cut it and the presumption of some of you that it's your right is staggering arrogance and it is why folk have thoroughly enjoyed you playing at tiny grounds, earning pitiful SPFL income, being unseeded in cups, being in the Petrofac, it was more of a "welcome to our world" but a good number of you don't do humility evidently. It also smacks of being glory hunters too.

Everything you get from this day forth will have to be worked for, just like everyone else. And that requires having a number of facets in place. A good team, a good manager, a good ground, a big support, a good training facility. On the evidence of so far, the team is getting better and the rest seem to be in place however the only reason you got demoted was the key reason of them all. Good finances. The jury is still out there with King hardly reassuring everyone with his semi-truths to date so ibrox4ever this can still go either way, everything else could be brilliant but if you really are still skint then it doesn't matter one bit and funnily, perhaps like landed gentry, finances more than anything dictate what is "rightly ours".

29 Aug 2015 12:05:34
Gaz1: Anything we ever got had to be worked for like everyone else, so I don't get where your coming from with your moralistic little diatribe or diatripe!

29 Aug 2015 12:24:19
Ps Gaz - You could turn that around as so many Celtic fans bump their gums about what they will do in Europe iis the reason we even more THOROUGHLY ENJOY you getting pumped out at the qualifiers season after season.

29 Aug 2015 13:16:01
There is this misguided perception of ARROGANCE about Rangers fans especially when the team was at the top of Scottish football. Some comments may appear and maybe are arrogant, but every fan of every successful team over the years gets into a mindset of success, it's not arrogance or taking it for granted, not consciously anyway.
Rangers went nine years without winning the league before Souness came, nothing to be arrogant about during that period, Celtic went six years without a trophy from1989- 95, now if you had told that to the average person who knew nothing about football they wouldn't have believed you, because you don't need to know about football to know the success and reputation of certain teams.
My point is there are certain teams who have had a rich history of success and even when going through a dry period of years for whatever reason the club's supporters do tend to have a mindset of success they have been used to.

28 Aug 2015 13:34:15
Miller still plays now and is prob a genuine first pick. Hardie is still young and as much as I like the lad I wouldn't be that comfortable having him leading the line in a must win game at easter road or palmerston etc.

28 Aug 2015 08:47:04
I no a lot of youse say stevie mat won't be comeing but he is now out of favour at wednesday and manager is prepared to listen to offers what do youse thinks bears could get us goals even though goals are comeing

29 Aug 2015 04:31:50
Whos Stevie Mat? lol joking is a banter page after all I would Take May no Problem if there is a deal to be done then we should get it done and over the line incase we miss out Again. Watp

28 Aug 2015 00:32:37
Any news on Stevie may coming, or is it all just bull that he was at the Airdrie game the other night

27 Aug 2015 22:05:06
Listen all, just cancelled Sky, why, well myself and mates have had enough of subsidising the so called best league in the world!!
Why should we in Scotland get pittance from Sky when the team that gets relegated from the EPL get 98million!!
You are paying for this . Until we take a stand as all supporters in Scotland and cancel SKY and tell them the reason we will always get a pittance as the SFA have not got the bottle to fight our corner .
If you want to watch a game go to your local pub and see it there, go for it, if we stick together and leave on mass they will soon realise they have to do something .
Have sense .

{Ed001's Note - wow it is just like being on the Celtic site, they love to moan about this. By the way, if you were all going to the pub to watch it, Sly would be even happier as that is their main return on football. They make far more charging pubs and then pointing out to advertisers how many pubs they have that will all have X amount of people watching the footie. If you want to boycott it, then stop watching it altogether mate.}

28 Aug 2015 08:02:13
all u are doing is cutting of your nose to spite your face if to many cut there sky off they won't renew there deal then where will the clubs be and as ed says we were lucky sky stayed when rangers were relegated because rangers celtic games were the only ones people wanted to buy who wants to watch killie v ross county where they cover the seats with advertisement banners

28 Aug 2015 08:03:40
Alright if you live alone no kids and only want to watch Scottish football our deal may be mince but so is the standard but I do believe that there should be a better deal with the BBC for highlights as their fee is compulsory so 10% of the match of the day and football league highlights money is fair because I'm not interested in lower league English football I don't care for the premiership but I do watch it. As for your boycott of sky Rupert murdoch will be down the doctors this morning for some jellies to help him through those sleepless nights

28 Aug 2015 10:36:53
Cancelled it a year ago, and along with recently changing broadband, I reckon I save about £600 a year. I now get every Sky channel and BT HD channels for a whopping £35. So, still watch Sky, just don't add to their over-swelling coffers.