Rangers Banter Archive February 28 2012

28 Feb 2012 23:51:06
When I first heard that Celtic were willing to pay up front for old firm tickets I thought, good on them helping our club when in need. Next I learn it was only an agreement as they wanted cash up front from rangers for last parkhead game probably hoping we would not pay and a) embarrass our club and b) have no away fans at game Rangers paid up front with agreement that Celtic would do likewise in next Ibrox game. Now Liewell reneges on deal. I hope your decision comes back to haunt you.

BFH

Just don't give them tickets

How can it haunt us. Also Rankers only paid 5 days before december game. pot kettle black

Your company could be bust before the next game and you want celtic to give you 300000 so you can offer us 10p in the £ back your own trust is pledging money but wont give any and you want us to bail you out we will pay up when you lot put up not just shout about putting money in

@BFH; you are outa the loop.celtic will pay FIVE days before the game as you did. still believe the daily record eh? will you never learn?........green jhedi

Why dont Rangers just ask Celtic to pay
the gers players wages? AYE RIGHT!

28 Feb 2012 23:15:30
why dont all rangers fan boycotte buying season tickets next season if this deal with ticketus is true ? wouldnt that logically stick it to whyte as he would be liable for payment to ticketus? probably opening myself up here for criticism but just an idea

Whyte is not liable to Ticketus, Rangers are.

No ! For the last time they will own the ticket you buy at the gate ! Nice if that could of screwed shyte but I can't
PaulRFC

Exactly! that's what to do. With a trail of debt behind you and completely lacking in morals,at deaths door and the walls closing in what's another £24m added to the pile? Classy stuff!

It can't ! I meant to say... I don't personally want to screw him
PaulRFC

If craig whyte pd £18million just like that ,does he no get a discount,say 10 percent=£1.8million ,this guy is creaming off £££millions and all for a £1.00 .sniper reqd, only way to stop him.

Im sick of hearing this same old post..jsm

28 Feb 2012 22:51:00
hi ed hearing that septic have refused to pay upfront for tickets that they already agreed to do rangers should give them to friday to pay up if they dont sell them to fellow bears at our next home game {Ed001's Note - why should they pay so far in advance? No one ever does normally, it is silly to expect them to pay now. You can't sell on the tickets, you have to turn over a percentage of the seating to away fans in every SPL match.}

Well said ed. typical rankers fan wanting to put the boot into Celtic at any given time. Celtic (champions elect) WILL pay the money when the money is due as they always do. I think it's squeaky bum time for the rankers fans as they realise that a big party will be on at ipox in a few weeks. Maybe we could double it up and have a farewell one as well. {Ed001's Note - it is understandable why Rangers would want it paid early, you can't blame them for asking!}

Ed of course it's understandable, they need every penny just now but it is equally understandable why celtic refused. If they are desperate for money why don't they just sellma couple of players to other teams on pre contract and ask for some of the money up front? It would dwarf the 300k {Ed001's Note - I am quite sure that will happen, if anyone can be found to buy them right now. The transfer market was slow in January for a reason, no one has any money to spend.}

So us not paying up is the cause of your downfall, not your corrupt years of two contracts, ebts , dodging taxes paye , and it's our fault , have you paid dun utd the pars and hearts up yet?

Ska bhoy

28 Feb 2012 22:20:49
if rangers get out this mess then rangers and celtic should build a small stadium miby 7000 seater put b teams in division 3 and that should hopefully pay youth wages a minnie old firm that would sell out

Tim in peace,here. Happen to think this is a good idea, would give both teams a better opportunity to develop their younger players in a more competitive environment, and with a bit of luck, the neds on both sides will give it a wide berth. Like any true fan, there's something great about watching the next generation of players coming through. More of it I say.

Not the stupidest idea I've ever heard by a long way. I think the costs involved in building even a modest stadium might prove an obstacle for both clubs in todays economic climate, but still a great positive idea in a time of gloom and doom for OUR game! Weetam1888

What do u mean our B team? The rangers A team will be in the 3rd div, and that's where we belong if we get caught cheating. P.S. thanks David Murray for this, no SIR in my eyes.

Great idea.time people listened to sensible fans like this.............green jhedi

28 Feb 2012 20:53:13
Several Rangers players had side letters which formed part of their contract.

There could be horrific repecutions for Rangers if this is true.

When a club registers a player with the SFA they must provide all parts of the contract to the SFA, to do otherwise is an offence, and which if done deliberately will result in the players registration being invalid.

If Rangers Directors chose to withold those side letters and not send them to the SFA then such an offence will have been committed.

Where the horror sets in is in two parts.

Firstly, several Rangers Directors, during the period of the EBTs also served from time to time on the board of the SFA and SPL. If they knew in their capacity as a Rangers Director that the full contracts were not being provided to the SFA (and they must have done if it was decided not to provide them), and then in their capacity as an SFA Director were then choosing to turn a blind eye to this practice, then this is about as serious as an offence as you can get. All hell will break loose with a full UEFA investigation and God knows what sanctions will be given out.

Secondly, if players contracts are decided to be invalid, how then would that effect Rangers results, trophies won, etc. during these seasons and again what penalties would be imposed.

Things are bad at Rangers just now, but they could be about to get a whole lot worse.

Utter Rubbish, if this is true how hard will the SFA investigate it? Will they want to expose themselves?

How can you impose a current penalty for something that happened 10 years ago?

To the poster who said:

"Utter Rubbish, if this is true how hard will the SFA investigate it? Will they want to expose themselves?

How can you impose a current penalty for something that happened 10 years ago?"

It will become a matter of public record as a result of the Big Tax Case whether such contracts existed.

If they did, then it won't be the SFA that investigate it, it will be UEFA. Why? Because of exactly the point you make, how hard would the SFA investigate themselves.

There will be an independent enquiry by UEFA.

Rangers would suffer horrendous penalties, points deductions, banned from Europe for several seasons, relegation, removal of trophies, etc.

You need to understand this would be corruption at the highest level, the worst you could get. UEFA would have to be seen to take the hardest of lines.

This is not something that can be covered up,

Just how badly does your board want Rangers punished? Your going to win the treble probably, and your only thoughts are about Rangers. sad,sad,sad ger1952

To the guy who said:

"Just how badly does your board want Rangers punished? Your going to win the treble probably, and your only thoughts are about Rangers. sad,sad,sad ger1952"

What has the contents of this post got to do with the Celtic board?

Sfa are just as corrupt, ogilvie knew what was happening , he was part of it, and his reward = the top job, crooks

Ska bhoy

28 Feb 2012 20:04:39
So Dignity FC are now keeping charity money, shame on them

28 Feb 2012 20:01:44

The Scottish Premier League has launched an investigation into alleged unacceptable conduct by Rangers supporters during the first match played by the club since they appointed administrators last week.

The match against Kilmarnock at Ibrox on February 18 was played in front of a sell-out crowd. The SPL has now begun an investigation based on information provided by its match delegate after the game and could find that Rangers has breached rules.

Though the league has not made public comment on the scope of the investigation, there were widespread reports of offensive singing by sections of the Rangers support.

Strathclyde Police have confirmed that they made one arrest at the game for alleged sectarian breach of the peace.

SPL Rules and Regulations, section H7.4, titled "Unacceptable Conduct" explains what isn't allowed at a ground where a game is taking place.

The broad explanation given by the authority is that anyone within the stadium who is "violent and/or disorderly" is guilty of unacceptable conduct.

There is a police presence at all SPL matches but, as far as the governing body is concerned, the home club is deemed responsible for preventing unacceptable conduct and dealing with any incidents.

That means not only does the club need to ensure security but that it also has to take steps to discourage and prevent offensive singing and assist the police and stewards when they deal with incidents directly.

The General Public will NOT support a CLUB in receivership with this unacceptable conduct when they read this...

28 Feb 2012 19:27:31
Celtic fan on Real radio saying the journos are out to hound his team because they are "playing so brilliantly"

Anyone mind when we went to the uefa cup final and competed for every trophy that season - we got hounded by journos. Its the price of success not that theyd know

Rankers were playing anti football that year hardly brilliant ostrich man!lol rfcia hail hail

I was listening to the phone in and I never heard anyone phone in to say that

28 Feb 2012 18:28:34
Sorry for length of post ED, Feel free to edit as you see fit. Hope it clears up some confusion about administrators.

Just for all those posting about some 11 days routine for administration and conspiracy theories regarding DUFF & PHELPS

An administrator takes control of the company from the directors whilst the company is in administration. the administrator manages affairs for the benefit of ALL creditors.
All documents from the company (gers) must state that the company is in administration and contain the administrators name. The company must provide a statement of affairs within 11 days of being requested to do so.
The registrar. the AIB, creditors and members are notified of the administrators appointment and of subsequent actions taken, public notice is also given. The administrator then draws up a plan of how he intends to achieve the purpose of the administration (within 8 weeks) and will arrange a meeting of creditors (within 10 weeks)at which they can approve or modify his proposals. If they reject the proposals the court will decide.
Administration ends automatically after 1 year. It can be extended only with the consent of creditors or the court. If the administrator acting under court appointment feels he cannot achieve his objective , he must notify the court and will be discharged. Alternatively , the administration will be converted to a CVL.

Good post mate

Lenny

There has been clubs in Scotland that have been in administration for longer than a year

If you read it correctly it says with the consent of the creditors , near the end of the statement , happy to clear up confusion.

28 Feb 2012 17:58:53
Rangers take Charity Money !
your mob have now sunk about as low as you can go.....it would appear money raised from a "charity" match with rangers legends versus ac milan gloria - the proceeds of which were to go to charitys such as Unesco and the prostate cancer charity are now going to be diverted "to help pay rangers bills" i am gobsmacked - absolutely stunned... you truly have no shame...(evening times 28/02/2012 page 3) {Ed001's Note - the charity have asked for it to go to Rangers, not Rangers asking for it.}

Ed are you being serious or is that a joke? {Ed001's Note - I am being serious, the charity is a Rangers Trust, so it would not be there but for the club.}

28 Feb 2012 17:25:18
can we make ticketus tell us what security they have for there loan to graig whyte?

If it's not a loan from ticketus then Whyte must have sold them the seats for 3 seasons. Before any one says he cant when the new main stand at the national stadium was built.
The main contractor took 5000 seats as a part payment as the Sfa could not afford the final account.

Difference sfa owened Hampden.Ticketus already stated it is a loan.Whyte did not own Rangers, hence his statement he's put up £33million of his money as securitys from other firms then used Ticketus money to buy Rangers.

28 Feb 2012 16:59:03
here boays it cood be wurse we cood aw look like that bunch it the tap ae the page?if evur thur wiz an advert tae keep peepul away fae iceland then thats it eh ed?
clock the knittin ?
it looks like theyv hid tires thrown aur thum, then set alite,
hee haw boays
so next time ye here"shoodv gon tae icelund "
jist think how luky we wur
wee pat

What planet are you from then,,..trueblue.....

The wan thit laffs ah bit ?

Wee Pat is a legend! If you don't get him your loss!

28 Feb 2012 16:10:01
here boays wee pat here jist tryin tae cheer us aw up ed,
rangurs huv jist anounsed thur pre season tour,
thur gaun tae the art galeries,then the science sentur, then thru tae the falkirk wheel,oan agane tae embra cassul ( bit thur no takin lee wallet in case sumbidy spots him n wee craigo his tae pay the balance)
then cycle back alang the canal tae milngavie,a big mac( happy meal)
n lastly a stroll roon tae wher murry perk used tae be.
aw fur undur a £5 a skull so whit dae yiz think boays
yur abediunt servint wee pat fae posso
"posso the amputee capitol ae the wuruld"
wance visitit nevur furgoat

Have ya no got a spell check pat ma man? PaulRFC

Good man ed it least yuv goat a sense ah humur!
thurs too much doom n gloom c'mon bears yel get thru this
wee pat

Have you not got a sense of humour paul r.f.c.i.a

No bad fur a man wae nae arms pat

Is it like a provvy chek paul?

Nae a fence pal bit ah think yul find arms ur spelt
erums( iz roy walkur used tae say " say whit ye see") am bak in the room , am bak in the room.........

Here boays av goat the same afflikshun iz wee craigo
"nae erums"
least no long enuff tae reach ma poakits,pp

Lol something like that mate. PaulRFC

28 Feb 2012 15:42:18
IF and still an IF we liquidate the options seem to be

1) SPL but with points deduction for approx 3 years and no Europe for same period

2) start in 3rd div.

I'd rather option 2 as we would have no European games any way and as long as fans stay loyal I'd rather give clubs like Morton, Stenhousemuir etc some extra cash instead of Dundee Utd, Aberdeen and Hibs who have been getting money for nothing off our fans for years.

BFH

Don't talk shyte mate. Rangers DON'T have the choice of what punishment they will receive. If Rangers are liquidated then they go to the bottom of the pile in line with SFA/SPL rules.
Oh, but wait Mr Ogilvie at the SFA might be able to swing it for you to get straight back in.

Money for nothing? Did they get kicks for free too?

Seriously, how did these teams get money for nothing from Rangers fans? Rangers fans want to see the games so have to pay or are you thinking in the spirit of Whyte and believing Rangers fans should either get in for nothing to away grounds or the club keeps all the ticket money and doesn't pay the other team?

So you don't want Rangers to have the TV money that would go with playing in the SPL. You also don't want the SPL payment depending on where you end up in the league.

Well if you want to write off £4m - £5m a season and watch dwindling attendances because of the lower league teams you're playing against, good luck to you.

You deserve to be a Rangers supporter.

Cant see where he said we get the choice its IF he had a choice thats what he would pick read the post correctly next time ya tool

Yes he is a tool. I said for the hard of thinking " I'd prefer"

And the other post regarding money. My belief is you don't get tv money if enter liquidation and the tv deal would be nil and void if we aren't in SPL so no gravy train of tv money and two home games v us for Dundee u etc and clubs like alloa etc get a couple of full houses against us. Everyone happy except the mid table SPL leeches.

BFH

28 Feb 2012 15:25:50
Its clear that quite a lot of the new trolls on here neither understand or probably care about Rangers should they end up in liquidation. To clarify, should this occur all previous debts and liabilities incurred by the old club die with them including all of the tax cases. Clearly it is not as simple as some would think, retaining Ibrox would be a major hurdle amongst others. Given its listed status and the building restrictions attached to it it wont be easy to sell so may be bought back. A newco from the ashes would have a new board, would create a new share issue and almost certainly attract new investment and credit from the banks, it comes afresh with no debt but would equally be dependant on the "suitability and standing" of the new board members.As to were it plays then yes option 1 would be readmission into the SPL with the possibility of points deduction for a determined period, this would require to be sanctioned by the other member clubs and not just Celtic(turkeys voting for xmas springs to mind). option 2 would indeed be the 3rd div. Europe is out of the question for at least 3 years due to uefa rules for a newco. The biggest blow to Rangers fans would be IMO the end of 140 years of history. My gut feeling is that whilst the administrators are doing their best liquidation is looming. Personally I do not believe that there will be any "serious" investors willing to put money in even with the possibility of agreed debt repayments in place as the debts are unsustainable and further to that whilst Whyte retains the majority shareholding. For what its worth if the shoe was on the other foot then I would be no different than some of these trolls but a newco rangers would not be skint and would be potentially stronger financially than any of their rivals, it would take some time to be a force again but sooner than some would think or indeed hope for, it is indeed "a funny old game" so make hay while the sun shines bhoys , we will be back

The only thing is that the new co would have to buy Ibrox (debt) and the rightsuse things like the club badge, motto and any image rights held by the club (more debt). It would have no players and would have to buy a whole new squad(more debt). It MIGHT have to honour the ticketus deal (Rduced running costs). It would have to buy rent Murry park (more debt). Would have no european games (reduced income). So while a new co would have no debt to begin with it would start to rack up pretty quickly and income would definately be down. Given that the current squad was unsustainable what is the new co squad going to be like. A 15 point penalty might even keep you out of second place with a big reduction in Prize and TV money. New co might be stronger financially thant current Rangers but given they are facing liquidation that's not saying a lot. It certainly wont be like the Rangers of recent years which spent 33 million pounds on players in the last 5 years.

David

Decent post. As a celtic fan i would not be bothered one way or the other what happens to rangers.In buisness terms the liquidation argument is hard to disagree with,as is the history argument using your heart instead of your head.The div 3 question is different though as crowds, sponsorship and season ticket prices would drop substantially,as would the standard of player available.

Would rangers be stronger if they done three years in div3? of course as all of the above income streams would revert to their normal levels and they would be debt free.The biggest question is how many rangers fans would accept the loss of history,and how many would be comfortable, morally,in so many people losing jobs? the big problem is scottish football has very little money to go around so,i agree, finding an investor before the tax case announcement is very hard.

add to this the "two" contract rumour and that could bring serious sanctions, and the fair play rules linked to turnover and it might mean 5-6 years building back up.dangerous times for all fans and they have to be very careful who they back...........green jhedi

28 Feb 2012 14:01:08
Is there any truth in the rumour that redundancies at Rangers have to be completed within 14 days of administration or the administrators become liable? today being 14 days after administration was announced

I think i read that somewhere as well mate bu tdont know if its true davie c

28 Feb 2012 13:14:57
seems to be a bit of confusion here regarding the tickets for the ipox game, as far as i can see celtic will pay for the tickets five days before the game,just as you did for the last game.so whats the problem? buisness is buisness..ask airdrie............green jhedi

No problem jehdi mate! PaulRFC

No problem - - papers need to keep the story going unfortunately!

bill72

Spot on and this is what happens ,its no wonder every Ger hated Lennon to the extent it got to last year (do realise even without he's not exactly Ibrox hero) with his face plastered over every newspaper, every day for the whole year.

Traynor and jackson of the daily
ranger should get a real story
and leave celtic out of rangers woes. we will pay for our tickets
when the money is due.

If every ger hate,s lennon then he,s doin his job right garlar07

28 Feb 2012 13:02:19
Hey folks. I think that I've discovered the reason behind the press changing their attitude against Rangers. That sheep virus in the news. Lots on knackered inedible lambs. There will be a shortage of lamb on the menu.

I figure that said pressmen were told that there would be a shortage of succulent lamb dinners, so they figured there may as well be a shortage of succulent press silence........

from "Me Here"

28 Feb 2012 09:00:36
Morning ed, you no what bears im sick of hearing all this news on rangers apparent tax evasion because everyone's at it... From the cash in hand guy down the docks to ma mate black Albert (that's not racist ed,he doesn't wash) selling cheap bakkie, an do we really believe Harry redknapp when he says it wasn't a bonus, it's common practice an always has been,wonder if uncle dermots paid all his tax or does "tax avoidance" not sound as bad as "tax evasion,every single multi millionaires guilty of it and I bet ya every single one of thems sh!tting themselves watching the way we are been hounded,now once this tax case is finished and I believe we will win it,are we going to see HMRC still all over the news going after their other "big targets" because it can't just be rangers so it makes me wonder why there is not more court cases going as we speak or are HMRC only capable of conducting one at a time! It's double standards CLEARLY! So bears why is it only our club been humiliated? I can't answer that but I will say there is someone who's been pushing for this outside ibrox so what's the motive? AC-130

@AC-130; dermots an irish citizen so has no dealings with HMRC.sorry.......green jhedi

Yeah because that's where his money is ain't it mate ! Stacked up with the rest of the country's monopoly money! (NOT).... an I didn't realise it was only HMRC who you had to pay tax to !

Paranoia anyone they areall out get us...col

What do you mean "only pay HMRC tax to?" who else would you pay tax to?.........green jhedi

28 Feb 2012 12:47:27
Whats Brian Kennedy worth anyone know? Its good hes a good friend of Souness a real Rangers man that could help him out...


At least we know this is a potential solution, i would rather him than a consortium...BUT he is obv not going to takeover if we lose the TAX case, he didnt make all his hard earned cash just to give 100million of it away.

It says 3250mill !

28 Feb 2012 12:12:37
Noticed a formal announcement and proof of debt form directed specifically to season ticket and bond holders was posted by Administrators to the club website on Thursday. Does this mean that season tickets won't be honoured for the rest of the season and season ticket holders need to lodge a claim?

http://www.rangers.co.uk/staticFiles/8b/9e/0,,5~171659,00.pdf

28 Feb 2012 12:02:51
a question
when Lloyds told Murray to take the Whyte deal or his line of credit would be stopped.who at Lloyds made that decision,had they any connection to another football club?...............les

28 Feb 2012 10:55:20
looking at save rangers Only 13800 rangers willing to save their club! Not good lads

And half of them are Celtic supporters taking the p1ss.

Make sure youve checked your emails and registered, Id forgot and did it last night. Not sure if it makes a differance though tbh. CheltBlue

Do not agree. The Saverangers thing, although done with good intention, was never going to fly in my opinion. Like most fans I will jump in when it actually means somthing, ie when I can not only send real cash but will know where it is going and that it will do some good. Also, as soon as it was known the Tims were throwing pretend cash at it, it was doomed...
Only my opinion...
BB

Agree with above, i have pledged though but wouldnt go through with it until my money was going to save somebodys job and not line whytes pocket , thats why some people are waiting, . if i know for sure where its going ill pledge a grand instead of 500 notes,, craig+babybear

28 Feb 2012 08:44:04
If we make an agreement with creditors to hold off til the transfer window we can still raise a fair amount of cash. Also as has been stated we spend 35m a year but bring in 25m so the wage bill has to be cut. Below I've written approx what transfer fees and wages players that we could get rid of are on and what it could bring in and save.

Macgregor-20k, 5m. Papac-8k, release. Goian-8k, 500k. Broadfoot-5k, 300k. Whittaker-20k, 3m. Kerkar-Release, 2k. Davis-20k, 3m. Edu-10k, 1m. Lafferty-15k, 1.5m. Healy-5k, Release. Bedoya-5k, 400k. Ortiz-400k, 5k. Naismith-15k, 5m.

This all adds up to fees of £21.1m and yearly salary savings of £7.16M. Add this to players we've already let go and sold in the transfer window and we could pay off a chunk of creditors and be running on an even keel.

This would obv leave us with a heavily depleted first team of.

Alexander
Little Perry Bocanegra Wallace
Aluko Ness Fleck Wylde
Hemmings Mculloch

Truth is for the next few years we're going to be down until we get back on our feet and these are the kind of sacrifices that are crucial for us to survive. Obv this doesn't mention the big tax case but if we lose that we're f*cked anyway.

The first sentance in your post completely blows your theory away:

"If we make an agreement with creditors to hold off til the transfer window we can still raise a fair amount of cash. "

That's 4 to 5 months away. Rangers do not have enough cash to run the company until the end of April. Any bills that come in afer administration have to be paid now. Liquidation is on the way.

As a Celtic fan i would say you have undervalued McGregor(7-10m) and overvalued Whittaker(50p)

Joeshmo1888

28 Feb 2012 08:00:54
If the SPL and SFA find in their investigations that the contracts at Rangers were "bogus", or not fit for purpose...what ever you wish to call it, they could technically face suspension from UEFA and FIFA, and at least an investigation from both organisations. If the SFA and SPL find what many people say they will, and all Celtic fans hope, then the SFA and SPL are openly admitting they didn not ensure player registrations were carried out to interntional standards and also submitted false registrations to UEFA for periods when Rangers were invovled in Europe.

Whilst I don't dispute that a substatntial degreee of the mess lies with rangers as a club and those invovled in running it, player registration does not....clubs simply submit paper work to the national football authorities for chekcing and approval and clearance....without this, they cannot play and those cheks must meetboth national football authority standards and also FIFA standards as laid out in their respect rule books as a minimum.

My feeling is that this cannot be 100% laid at the door of the club as its role in this is to present paperwork that can be signed off by the SPL and SFA...if those authorities approve it, the registration is valid as it has to meet there minimum criteria for player registration....if it doesn't, or doesn't meet those of FIFA, then those bodies will have to explain why not and how they have managed to overlook this not just once, but countless times..

There appears to be an almighty mess here outwith the club, but I don;t think it is what those clowns on the radio have been suggesting that it is.

May some almight power help the Scottish game if the SFA and SPL have mis-administered the game in this manner with respect to rangers players or players of any other club.

28 Feb 2012 09:42:21
Yes murray has ran up a debt, but was it not whytes debt that put us in admin.

Whyte is there to finish Murrays job ,not man enough to do that

28 Feb 2012 08:19:01
Why is it we have a Liverpool fan for our ed but the Celtic page seems to have a Celtic fan ? Put it this way, there are a lot more Celtic fans on our page than there are Rangers fans on theirs. Is it because of the association Celtic & Liverpool have with each other? I feel that our ed is mixing things up & contributing to the hatred between the old firm. If this isn't printed, I will know I've hit the nail on the head, right ed?

{Ed033's Note - Why don't you volunteer to be a Rangers Ed?

Think the web site has been balanced considering emotions. just wish rangers fans would open their eyes, they were warned about minty and whyte, and ignored the advice, down the clyde and into the swanee ye go. what gets me is gers fans being surprised. it has been coming for twenty years, and as soon as whytes name was mentioned i did a homer simpson doooooerrrrrr. obvious, the man is an asset stripper, nothing else.

Its a conspiracy, get a grip m8 as far as I can see both EDS tell both sets of fans when they are out of order.

I'll be the rangers ed ! What you think ed? PaulRFC

{Ed033's Note - Please use the contact form if you're interested in being a Rangers Ed

Don't want to start the handbags at dawn stuff but I prefer our Ed. Much more impartial. Leads to better quality posts and answers...
10% pay rise Ed
BB

Paulrfc would ban all the fans he felt were from other teamss fans - not exactly in the spirit of banter.

You'd be the first banned mate! PaulRFC

I thinks uz well all definatly be walking alone very soon! lol

Does Paul understand the concept of banter? Can he be objective? Hmmm.

Ibrox burgerboy an ed feck no garlar07

28 Feb 2012 00:50:05
Wee Neil must be thinking to himself just now that "there is more than one way to skin a cat" things just getting better for him each day.....
Molly Gibson & Big Bernard

Oh another 2 names coming out from under the rocks.

Screw wee Neil he has nothing to do with us

Too bad he'll get little credit for "winning" this default title because of gers points deduction etc. His next test will be in Europe- for which the side will be woefully ill-prepared. What celtic have is numbers no quality. I think they're a vastly over-rated football team. They look ok next to the rest of the dross in our country but that's about it. A manager with a squad of 40+ doesn't really know what he's doing. In a few months' time it'll be plain as the nose on your face.

Celtic won't win the title because of Rangers' points deduction but because Rangers were mince and Celtic better so they overhauled the massive points difference and sailed past.

"Sailed past" RFC in administration (your wee sad pals never off here keep reminding us) that'll be?!?

Well done Neil and co, I really do salute your extraORDINARY achievement (you are familiar with sarcasm I hope ya dumpling).