Rangers Banter Archive February 28 2016
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28 Feb 2016 21:46:36
Is there any others out there that think Barry mkay won't hack when we get promoted he just wanders into acornercan beat a full back like ohallran danced by defenders what not offer Dundee 750,000 for Stewart and hemmings tell me what you. Think.
28 Feb 2016 22:46:42
Dazzler
For me I'm not his biggest fan doesn't go by defenders as much I like. to see, he tends to run at them stop do a sand dance before deciding what to do a tends to lose the ball a lot or he'll run at them cut inside and pass 5 yards were as you were saying O, Halloran was taking then on and bulling his way through them, he's also a bit light weight doesn't score enough either, but he's what we've got and better than last years rejects!
29 Feb 2016 01:14:38
Agreed, needs replaced next season. Fails to beat man far too often and final ball is poor. Hope I'm wrong and he develops. To be honest only tav, wag, ohal, holt, wallace and possibly fod should be near team next season. Maybe big kiernan but jury is still out. The rest need replaced by much better quality if we are to challenge.
29 Feb 2016 08:03:27
Think now we have O Halloran you can see the difference in quality between him and McKay. No way will McKay ha k it in the premiership far too lightweight and too easily pushed off the ball.
29 Feb 2016 08:08:50
Talk about being critical but this is taking it to a new level. He's just turned 21, is still learning and will have good and bad days. Give the guy the proverbial break. McKay has real ability and great ball control and just needs to match these with self belief. Look at Raheem Sterling, you could say the same thing about him as you are about McKay but hey, he sold for 50 million quid a few months ago.
29 Feb 2016 08:48:30
What a load of rubbish being talked about Mackay. He is a young player, still learning the game and is a different talent to O'Halloran and others. How come he is has been man of the match on a few occasions this season if he is that bad? He'll continue to improve. We need players like Mackay who have natural skill. Davie Cooper was lightweight wasn't he but it didn't stop him being a star at the top level! Today again we have the negative posters on here, just like those who were praising Hibs until not so long ago.
29 Feb 2016 08:58:06
I agree with most of the posts about BMcK.
Is this why MW gave him a one year deal rather than to keep him hungry?
Remember MW got pasted on here for that.
29 Feb 2016 09:01:14
Mackay has been one our best players this season. Every player in the last few games hasn't preformed well but the finger seems to be only pointed at mackay. He's got a great future ahead off him so maybe back him rather than get on his back.
29 Feb 2016 09:26:45
DOIGER
He got MoM the other week and was the worst man on the pitch.
Crowd were howling for him to be subbed and you could hear an amazed gasp when the MoM was awarded.
29 Feb 2016 11:01:17
Kfraser
Your not seriously comparing McKay to Sterling? Sterling plays in one of the top leagues in world and has played for his country a good few times. McKay doesn't have anywhere near the ability that Sterling has and Sterling can cope with being as slight as he is quicker and far more skilful than McKay and can perform against some of the best players in the world.
29 Feb 2016 11:14:29
Im afraid you don't get Motm by being the worst player on the pitch. He may not have been your standout candidate but he was obviously someones.
I really think the criticism is very harsh on McKay, he is a young winger, I think he is an easy target for the vultures now, the boy is a good player and will grow in stature if he's allowed.
29 Feb 2016 11:18:03
the Dundee game will be another pointer to what we need
next season
again players leaving us in the summer should be pivotal
to we sign, expect ball to return to spurs, king to return
to hearts. zeleam to return to arsenal, to be honest I do not see anyone breaking down our door to sign any of our stars.
29 Feb 2016 14:01:16
Doiger, might be negative posts about mckay but its the truth. He's not that good certainly no where near raheem sterlings shadow. why is it people can't handle negative opinions? Is it because nothing bad can be said about anything rangers? Get a grip. I'm at ibrox every week same as most folk on here. Its fact lads that only 5 or 6 will get a game next season and the rest just won't be good enough. I agree that the gap between us and aberdeen hearts etc isn't that big, but its big enough to need at least 5 or 6 much much much better players than we have now. Proved when st johnstone gubbed us and then we stuttered and struggled to beat spl 2nd worst team killie. And as for posters saying some people just aren't happy, of course every fan is happy with where we are. We all know where we have been but we will need a lot better than what we have for the SPL. Cb cm cf winger a must. I hope king and co dig deep for warbs because the vultures of scottish football are waiting for us to fail.
29 Feb 2016 16:50:59
Completely disagree with everything you have posted coldo. You say the gap between the sides below Celtic isn't big then you go on to say we need 5 or 6 players of a much much better standard to compete. That's a massive contradiction for a start. And Only 5 would get on the team in the top flight? Seriously? Where are these phenomenal players in these top flight teams at the moment? I haven't seen them. I've said it before - a poor Hibs side gubbed the sheep, DU, St J and Hearts. One game might be classed a fluke, but 4? Sorry can't agree with you on anything.
29 Feb 2016 17:30:37
There is a world of difference between playing in the Scottish Championship and playing in the EPL or the English Championship. On the other hand there is not a great deal of difference between the SPL and the Scottish Championship.
For me I am yet to be convinced by McKay and I don't put a lot of credence in being the best player in the Championship!
In his favour he is a young lad and has plenty time to develop which I am sure that he will do under Warburton, (he also had the good fortune of going out on loan under McCoist so hasn't been destroyed like others were) .
I however am looking at a team of players that could hold their own in the top divisions of England and I consider that McKay has a lot of work to do and needs to show total commitment to get there.
29 Feb 2016 07:30:18
Nice one guys. Wee Baz will most probably be our player of the year. I think he has been outstanding tbh and maybe Mr Warburton agrees with me as I think he's started every game bar one. Better get used to Barrie in the top flight as it's quite clear Mark has plans for him. If you check the stats I think he has more assists than anyone in the division. He's young and still learning but I think he's a special player who will cause big problems for the opposition next year.
29 Feb 2016 08:59:04
replace barrie mackay, what next let waghorn and tavarnier go to ayr utd on loan madness.
29 Feb 2016 19:18:34
The seeker, how is it a contradiction? There is a gap, not that big but big enough. what we have we won't be good enough. We got hammered by st johnstone and scraped past killie. Hearts and aberdeen we need to beat comfortably just to get second place. Which to be honest right now they would beat us and then there is celtic. They will spend this summer to make sure we don't get near them. So seeker if your happy to settle for challenging hearts and aberdeen then fair enough but if we want to challenge at the top then we need better than what we have. God we are struggling to beat teams in the championship with what we have, how do expect us to challenge in the spl with what we have. As I said its not that big but big enough to spend at least 3 to 4 mil to ensure hearts aberdeen are not a threat to us. If you think we would finish 2nd with what we have now the I think you are mistaken.
29 Feb 2016 21:38:15
Motm is picked by sponsors, that's why its always bizarre, they're picked before the game starts! Thought evryone knew that? And Coop wasn't slight, he had a great physique
Tommy.
29 Feb 2016 20:51:38
I think we will spend bigger than most people think but I don't think we need as many players as you are suggesting. And how do you think Hibs would do having gained confidence by dispatching 4 premier league teams? Sorry but the team is playing well and making loads of chances every game. If we weren't doing that i"d be worried. Everybody we play parks the bus but somehow this becomes our fault. Any team can keep the best of reams out using these tactics and benefitting from copious amounts of luck. This has happened on numerous occasions this season.
Even during our worst game this season (St Johnstone) we had chances to win the game. This team is light years ahead of the one that competed last year and very capable of holding its own in the top flight imo. Let's see what happens against Dundee. They are a decent side capable of beating anybody on their game. It will be difficult without O'Halloran and King but I think we'll do well, especially if they try and play football.
And no, I'm not always a glass half full kind of guy. There wasn't a harsher critic of last season's side than me I assure you. I just think that throughout the whole club from top to bottom, we are miles ahead of that mess and we'll set up for a tilt at the top flight.
01 Mar 2016 00:36:44
We are playing well and creating lots of chances and the club is in a great place. I have never said we aren't. Teams park the bus and its hard to break them down and that's championship teams. All I'm saying is that if championship teams like alloa falkirk etc make it hard for us then the better Spl sides will make it twice as hard. An average st johnstone side sat in and countered us very easily. A very poor killie side made it hard for us. Unless we get better players then it will be hard in the Spl. Hearts and aberdeen are the best of the rest and we need to be better than them and with what we have now I just don't think we are. I do think that we need at least 5. I don't know much of the acc stanley pair so I can't comment on them. If they are better than what we have then that's 3 left, for me, a cf and cb and cm. You said hibs beat spl sides 4 times can't be a fluke? Hibs went and got hammered by morton and dumbarton, was that a fluke? we need better players to up there challenging. No doubt about it.
28 Feb 2016 17:12:24
Hi all bears am back mist quite a bit of the footy due to a short all inclusive stay at sunny bar L my prediction from the start that we would win the league by at least 15 points is looking good now. Go on the gers.
28 Feb 2016 17:35:22
Any decent talent on show?
28 Feb 2016 18:12:55
Afraid not my man full of jake the rakes was hopeing to bump into white, green, White House and a few other of there cronies as a few of the boys can't wait to give them a guided tour lol.
28 Feb 2016 18:33:17
What, you couldn't get your fone in East107?Everybodys got a fone in there!
28 Feb 2016 19:19:17
I bet there is east enclosure. Would shake anyone's hand who gave them a tour.
29 Feb 2016 20:39:50
Going to enroll on a course on Astral Physics! To try to work out what Planet some of you guys are on! Mackay can't cut it! He is different class. Left foot, right foot, quick, got a trick, can cross, dribble and finish, can play either wing or no 10, can see a pass. He is a Rangers man and just the kind of player we have been looking for breaking through. Replace Wallace at Left back! Fur **** sake. I'm away for a lie doon in a dark room.
28 Feb 2016 17:08:09
Anybody out there able to help me get some Petrofac cup tickets.
28 Feb 2016 21:52:40
It's not a sell out is it?
28 Feb 2016 16:36:33
we need a hit man. ally mccoist was a hit man . waggy is a bulldog but not a hit man sorry! . every now and again one comes along and i'm sure the scouts are looking everywhere. Its looking like we are in the spl next year but will end up mid-table without the hit man. Clarke, no. holt, no. there's a Scottish Jamie vardy out there let's find him.
28 Feb 2016 17:19:10
Holt no?
28 Feb 2016 17:41:27
Holt?
28 Feb 2016 18:41:54
Holt?
28 Feb 2016 22:48:51
You're spot on with what you say deecee. Maybe The Man has one under his Hat!
28 Feb 2016 22:58:31
holt. no!
29 Feb 2016 06:35:30
Getting hemmings back would be a hood move Imo
Tommy.
28 Feb 2016 16:15:23
Just read that Sports Direct are to be kicked off the FTSE 100 on Wednesday and that the value of the company has halved over the last few months. I realise this won't have any real affect on Rangers and Ashley won't be worrying about paying his council tax bill any time soon but any bad news for Ashley/ SD always puts a smile on my face. Bad news for ABAHAB1 though, his hero the "Genuine Billionaire Mike Ashley" might not be a Billionaire much longer the way things are going.
28 Feb 2016 17:40:44
Karma what goes round comes round, I like any others believe he was in with the gang of thieves, cutting deals for himself time will tell!
28 Feb 2016 15:01:55
assuming we get promotion to SPL and are in the market for an attacking midfielder one name that springs to mind is Liam Henderson, some may think no chance he`ll cross the old firm divide, but it`s worth testing the water as i think he`s the best in scotand at the moment, in the mould of Stuart McCall can chip in with a few goals and down the pecking order at Parkhead.
Just a thought.
28 Feb 2016 15:35:47
No chance.
28 Feb 2016 16:30:40
Does our rivalry with Celtic mean nothing anymore?
28 Feb 2016 16:31:22
If you say he's in the mould of Stuart Macall then he's no attacking midfielder.
28 Feb 2016 18:08:05
Wouldnt take him as he's no where near Rangers class, and wouldn't give Hibs any money atawl tbh, we'll find much better midfielders than Henderson believe me mate*****.
28 Feb 2016 20:48:11
Waste of a post no chance that will ever happen.
28 Feb 2016 22:52:20
Are you taking alcohol tonight or some sort of mind bending drugs aitken?
29 Feb 2016 10:38:28
Agree, he's not good enough. also whatateam, why would we give hibs money, it would be Celtic, he's on loan at hibs from them!
28 Feb 2016 10:41:39
Rangers will now pull away and win the league title at a canter. They've always been the best team in the league by some distance. We can't expect to win every game 5-0 nor do any team in any league (except perhaps Barcelona! ) . More players are getting involved now including King and Forester but equally one or two need a rest (e. g. Halliday) so why not give Shiels a run? If we can get Murdoch and Walsh back in the summer plus one or two new signings we'll do really well next season. I now think Dundee United will survive at least for the play-offs and that Kilmarnock will go down. Hibs won't relish playing the Arabs in the play-offs and Falkirk may well go up.
28 Feb 2016 11:17:50
Doiger
Don't know if you noticed but Shiels was awful yesterday kept giving away possession and have away a stupid free kick in a dangerous position near the end. Also I worry that you think we only need 1 or 2 players in during the summer. We need at least 6 players who are of much better quality than what we have. It's likely Shiels, Clark, Templeton will leave and Ball and Zelalam will go back to their clubs. As for Murdoch I don't think Warburton thinks much of him and doubt he will play much for us.
28 Feb 2016 13:27:50
At this point in time, as a fan l am not worried. We are winning dirty which in this climate l will accept all day long. I believe our new scouting system will flourish along with the young boys being sent out to come back as men for next season.
28 Feb 2016 18:12:36
I think Josh Windass is better than Shiels mate so we've sorted that out already, Shiels was a great player for us but i think the time may be up for him *****.
28 Feb 2016 11:41:16
Doiger
I'm hoping it's a false dawn for DU and that they eventually go down as I feel sick to the stomach at the prospect of meeting them in the league next year. I think they will still finish bottom with Kilmarnock and Falkirk meeting in the play off final. Don't really care what happens in that game but wouldn't it be great to see Hibs and their Dundee version battling it out next season in the Championship in front of one man and his dog? Bliss!
28 Feb 2016 09:42:55
Well guys league pracricly over so let's loan out all our best players to the mighty falkirk lol.
28 Feb 2016 08:32:39
You have to hand it to our gaffer Mr Magic think about it time after time his substitutions get us Points and the 3 new signings King against Falkirk, O, Halloron against Alloa, and Forrester yesterday, yet still we gave the doubters. I know sometimes you have to win ugly and habe a bit of luck but at the end of the day Were on our way Back!
28 Feb 2016 08:58:30
Bongo
It's not that people doubt him it's more to do with the fact that we are currently playing in the 2nd tier of a very poor footballing country with a budget far in excess of the other teams in the league. Warburton can only really be judged when we get back to the Premiership and play against the teams in the league. Let's see how we get on them before we start to drool about how good he is.
28 Feb 2016 09:11:27
He can only beat what's in front of him biffo. I think he's doing an excellent job with the amount of pressure he's under to get promoted. 11 points ahead of a hibs team that have an excellent chance of winning the league cup. So I think he deserves all the credit he gets at the minute. He's managed in the English championship which is a very difficult league so as long as we bring in quality in the summer we will do well next season.
28 Feb 2016 09:42:57
My full backing on this one to both bongo and hooly78,warburton is slowly rebuilding a full institution of a football club here and doing an excellent job, the majority of his signings to date have been for buttons with the exception of the 5k with add ons for o'halloran, hooly78 touched on a fantastic point in stating warburton did a fantastic job managing brentford in the english championship which is by far a harder league than the scottish premiership, he has an eye for a player and all his signings at rangers have worked tremendous for him, we are in great hands under the magic hat so enjoy him while he's here!
{Ed001's Note - Warburton wasn't signing the players at Brentford, the owner of the club was using his proprietary stats based system, which is why McParland and Warburton left. They wanted to also scout players, not just use stats. To be clear, they are not against the use of stats, but just feel you also need to watch players to ensure they are a fit for the way you play etc, not just buy based on stats alone.}
28 Feb 2016 11:23:22
We are not playing against the top teams in the country. How can you say how great he is until we are in the top league? We are up against Alloa, Livingston and Dumbarton not Celtic, Aberdeen and Hearts. We were thrashed at home to St Johnstone and took 2 games to beat a very poor Kilmarnock side. Let's see where we are this time next season before we decide how good a manager we have.
28 Feb 2016 12:39:00
Biffa, you are of course 100% correct, anyone with half a brain can understand we play in a very poor league, in effect, it is similar to Chelsea playing in the second division in china, this is Rangers? We should be beating allow and Morton every single week, no doubt about that to most sensible people, its akin to Barcelona playing Brantford, let's wait and see how good warns is, I hope he is very good but some of the gushing nonsense posted on here is embarrassing, all this " our manager mark Warburton " is cringeworthy,
28 Feb 2016 13:25:02
He is are manager so what's wrong with people saying that. Sometimes I wonder what some fans want were top of the league yes we should be. We are in quarter finals of cup with a chance getting to semi final he can't do anymore. His main aim was to get promoted he is going to achieve that. We had a much bigger budget than hearts last year and they trounced us in the league. So of course he deserves credit. Some so called fans would prefer to see us fail so they can moan.
28 Feb 2016 13:30:39
Tomtom12
Couldn't agree more I like you hope he becomes one of the most successful managers we have had. However he hasn't achieved anything yet and he wasn't brought in just to win the championship. Your right as well about some of the over the top praise he has received. Let's see where we are this time next season to see how good he is.
28 Feb 2016 14:12:38
Make no mistake warburton has done a great job so far, Good football, scouting network, staff etc. No one can deny that. We are where we should be with the budget we have and the size of our club. However the players we have now won't be good enough to mount a challenge next year with the exception of 4 or 5. We got beat quite easily by st johnstone and struggled to beat a very poor kilmarnock. I fancy us to beat dundee in the cup. Again lads make no mistake if we don't bring in 5 or 6 really good players then we will struggle next season, no doubt. that's not a negative opinion, its a realistic fact. Again warbs and king have turned our club around and everyone should be delighted with the progress made. This summer will be huge and will prove just how much king and co are willing to back us.
28 Feb 2016 14:17:55
disagree biffo he has achieved a hell of a lot in my opinion he has rangers playing the best football we have seen in years with players who some see as no hopers and amateurs, 46000 people watching, season tickets up because the majority of supporters believe in what he is doing the whole of the uk are watching rangers, clubs want our players they want our management! many managers have achieved a lot less with a whole lot more . its not just about trophys and silverware yet! many clubs are kicking their own arses now because they like most of us can see quality in the players who we now have and they do not . this would not have happened with say billy davies for example .
28 Feb 2016 14:23:48
Ed, maybe I'm wrong on this one but mark warburton did originally as brentford manager chose and picked and developed his own players and if my memory serves me correct was it not the brentford owner then wanted to change to the statistical player identification and then that's how warburton and weir didn't agree to that method and all parties then decided that an amicable parting of the ways was the best thing for all, I think I'm correct here ed but I stand to be corrected if otherwise mate.
{Ed001's Note - the owner brought in people to work in his chosen system which he has also employed at Midtjylland. It is all about the stats. Benham implemented it from the beginning, according to him anyway.}
28 Feb 2016 17:25:14
Biffo I think you are forgetting the sheer state we were in when the Manager arrived. Total shambles. A lot is made of the budget we have but Hibs have been playing together for a lot longer and have SPFL standard players (most from Celtic) and we have left them for dead. Warburton is doing a fantastic job and to say anything otherwise is a joke to be fair.
Fair enough he will be judged on what he achieves in the top league but that doesn't take away from the completely positive transformation the club is experiencing.
28 Feb 2016 17:35:41
Reading some of the replies to my post I think some have short memories and long for the days of Super Swally and his auld pals act, we got ourselves were we are and only us can get ourselves out and Mr Magic is doing that. I do not believe for one minute if McCoist was still in charge we would be at the top of the table!
28 Feb 2016 20:53:26
I am not moaning about Warburton all I'm saying is that he can only really be judged once we get to the top league. The bench mark for a Rangers manager has to be how he does in the top league. Think people are getting carried away with how good they think we are. All I am doing is being realistic and will reserve judgement on the manager until we are in the premiership. Not criticising him just want to see what happens next season. Don't really know what's wrong with that?
28 Feb 2016 12:50:35
On the other hand a poor Hibs team beat Aberdeen, DU, Hearts and St Johnstone and are favourites for the League Cup. There just isn't this proverbial gulf between the leagues Biffo imo and this is borne out by some shocking displays from all of the top flight clubs I've witnessed over the past months. Do you really think we can't compete in this league, even as we are? Not saying we would win it with the current squad but are we not at least on a par with the sheep or Hearts?
28 Feb 2016 13:18:32
A fine post Tomtom. In particular the last part.
28 Feb 2016 20:56:03
Recob
If Hibs have spfl standard then why aren't they in it? The were awful the year they went down in the play offs and were miles behind Hearts last year. Hibs are currently in the correct position in the correct league.
28 Feb 2016 11:48:36
it's reported that MW looks at the full package, even players' lifestyles etc to make sure they don't disrupt the harmony in the dressing room. Looking at the way the guys celebrate goals etc, it's plain to see there are no massive egos or prima donnas in there.
The guys look genuinely pleased for the scorers. Now over at Parkheid. hmm! Although any dressing room containing the likes of John Collins must on a knife edge (a wee bird told me it was a huge problem when he was at Hibs)
28 Feb 2016 06:40:59
martyn waghorn a guest on RTV at st Mirren game tam milar asked him as he`s from Sunderland did he support them, no, man u for me then what about your dad, no, west ham, did you know rangers legend jim baxter once played for Sunderland waggy says never heard of him. magic.
28 Feb 2016 12:40:27
Is there a point.
28 Feb 2016 13:24:28
Tomtom. I think the point is that we are an institution and more than just training players to play for the club someone behind the scenes should be educating them on our history. The current players are only lucky enough to wear the Rangers jersey thanks to previous greats likke Baxter.
28 Feb 2016 17:43:08
I thought that was John Greigs job to educate them I all things Rangers!
