Rangers Banter Archive January 28 2016

 

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28 Jan 2016 22:27:00
Before I get started here I would like to point out that I trust and back our glasgow rangers manager mark 'the magic hat' warburton to the hilt! Now onto my rant, the billy king signing does not thrill me in the least but I'll get right behind any player who wears our royal blue jersey, that said the billy king signing I feel has come about because dave king has not fully backed our management team and they're top signing targets ie. diagouraga, o'halloran etc, I must be quite clear, I don't want us ever again to go back to the days of spending crazy money but after mr. king's numerous statements regarding if warburton wants a player we'll get the player he should have followed this up because slightly north of 1million quid for both diagouraga and o'halloran would have secured them as 'gers players and imo that's not crazy money for 2 good players that warbs undoubtedly wanted to sign for rangers, another thing that really gets me and sticks in my throat is we are glasgow rangers and in no way should we be developing players for heart of midlothian, it for a start sends out the completely wrong message to our wonderful supporters, indeed if this is the scenario where billy king is concerned its shocking and shouldn't be happening, however its a different story if after billy king's 4 month loan spell we have the option of signing him which I'm led to believe is not the case thus why all us rangers fans are bemused and angry that our proud, historical club is developing players for hearts, dave king must back our manager or risk losing him by not backing him in signing his no.1 transfer targets, rant over.



28 Jan 2016 23:24:11
I echo every single word you just said 15. This is starting to get a little embarrassing to say the very least. Scunnered.



28 Jan 2016 23:26:19
Warbutonthefifteenth, what u on tonight mate, MW would have known his budget before season started as a organised man he is, as a previous writer says he (MW) loves dabbling, he knows what he needs, give the board / management time, we are doing OK .



28 Jan 2016 23:27:40
Spot on mate it's one thing having a player on loan with a view to signing but another developing him for another team in the league we hope to be playing in next season.



28 Jan 2016 23:39:29
Very true Biffo mate!
Could come back to bight us on the arse!
Kane Hemmings. . . . . . ? I rest my case!



29 Jan 2016 00:06:06
MW must be fuming with the current board. He left them to tie up two signings and they have not only failed miserably they have made him look a liar as well. Now we endure the humiliation of being a development club for Hearts. King and co need to wise up if MW doesn't get his way this summer he will be gone. Joke outfit right now.



29 Jan 2016 00:10:01
How do you know we can't sign him at end of loan Robbie Nielsen might no want Jambo's to know he's selling to us. Also when did warbuton say he's wanting this player or that as my understanding is he doesn't say about other players due to respect of their teams.



29 Jan 2016 08:12:21
Billy king has been linked with us long before mw and its good business for us as we have a player experienced in both winning this league and playing in the spfl.

Yes we have signed him only for 6 months but we have a great opportunity to see how good he is first hand and possibly try to sign him in the summer.

If that doesn't work out then yeah hearts get the player back that we have developed for 6 months but we have added a bit of depth to our team without wasting any money.



29 Jan 2016 00:24:24
Warbs15 I take it from your op post you don't think we are going to sign the guy from St. johnstone.



28 Jan 2016 22:20:04
Why is everyone going on and on bout players we've not got on here all a hear is we need a striker or defender for spl level guys we ain't in the spl as it stands realisticly no team outside of hibs and falkirk should cause us problems why have spl class players on spl wages in the championship makes no sense to me if am honest if u want to moan bout players then look at the dross we had last season compared to now and stop all the king bashing he's sorting our club from top to bottom needs time he's made drastic changes in a short time already plus we've signed 10 + players from the summer window till now.



28 Jan 2016 22:12:20
Before I start I am a big MW fan but if u listen to billy King interview he says he asked to go out in loan and his agent got him to Rangers and it was all last minute he just found out today. It does Sound a bit like a panic signing rather than a target we been looking at and chasing. Hope the lad does well but think it shows the funds are not there for the real targets MW wants to bring in.



28 Jan 2016 23:30:25
Regarding MW interview Progress, did he not also say some deals can be drawn out?
Wait and see .



29 Jan 2016 00:29:56
Brian exactly mate, I watched a interview with m. w. and he says he has the full backing from the board, so I. think it's m. w. that either thinks the said targets are not worth the asking price, or he can get better elsewhere for the same money, though m. w. has never been a big money player buyer, I think he is the best thing that's happened to our club since sourness, and I trust m. w., the guy is class IMHO.



28 Jan 2016 22:01:33
Could not care less if we are "developing" a player for another club or not. If he helps us get promoted then that's all I care about! If he doesn't perform fine he didn't cost us much if he does do well and we want to keep him then stick in a bid it's as simple as that.



28 Jan 2016 21:10:13
I think it's time the board backed MW or we run the risk of losing him. If we're to believe what we've read in past board were supposed to be willing to put money up for players to ensure we get out of this division.
I can't see any signings we've made strengthening our team.
Just have to hope no long term injuries or we could be in bother.



28 Jan 2016 21:48:01
Wish everyone would calm down with Warburton leaving he's not going to leave in the summer no matter if he gets no money or a billion there's literally a 0% chance of that happening.



28 Jan 2016 22:26:40
McDermid

Nothing in football would surprise me and you can't say for sure it won't happen. Maybe he will stay maybe he won't no one knows for sure.



28 Jan 2016 23:59:11
What amazes me is how much smoke gets blown up MW's arse.
As far as i am concerned he has yet to prove himself. Granted he is an educated man and talks a good game but let's not be kidded he has a lot to prove.

Yes we are playing some nice football but it is against nobody most weeks.

Had we lost to Hibs in the last meeting we wouldn't be top of the league. A league of second rate teams and journeymen apart from hibs and falkirk who are still only half decent.

Warbs is doing no more then any of the managers in the SPL would do with our team with the same budget so let's not put him on a pedastal just yet.



29 Jan 2016 00:49:56
MW has proven himself to me. He is the manager we have needed for a long time. The danger now is losing him for lack of support from chairman and board. He asked for two players to be brought in and this board has let him down very badly. Surely we have to trust the managers judgement and get in who he wants.
Show him the money or lose him.



29 Jan 2016 00:36:51
Gorman got to totally disagree with your post, ok, maybe m. w. has still to prove himself but I think he is doing it right now at our club, maybe he worked in the banks before he came to our club but we have never had a manager that has studied football in other countries the way m. w. has, that's the reason we are playing the most attractive style of football ever played in our wee country, not just nice to watch but m. w. has us also getting the results.



28 Jan 2016 21:04:26
Can i point out for those that are already moaning about Billy King need to remember that he's only here to replace Oduwa. Meaning he'll be mainly a sub, a bit of an impact player, the same thing he was at hearts. He'll probably start against lesser teams like alloa, or Dumbarton.



28 Jan 2016 21:59:03
I think Billy king is a good young player and if it's only for 6 months good it saves spending over the odds for a player that may get pushed out the team in 6 months when we have the attraction of top flight football and if we can buy him at the end of it bonus I think he could do well. For all those who think John soutar is the man we should sign as a cdm well dundee utd have been on fire and he has done a great job covering the defence their league position speaks for its self top drawer. All those moaning that we are not getting o'halleran were the same ones moaning when we were going to sign o'halleran. Teams like juventus take players on loan from smaller clubs to see how they fit into their set up they took Roberto Pereyra on loan for a season from udinese then signed him juventus were top of the league went on to the champions league final. So after playing in front of a packed ibrox we would certainly plant the sead of the better and bigger place to play your trade.



28 Jan 2016 20:11:08
Just read the report in tomorrow's daily record and have to say I'm embarrassed a think I will throw a sickie as I will get the proverbial piss ripped right out o me that's for sure. HF, Robbie " trainspottin" neilson says it will be good for his player to get some game time as the jambos can't guarantee him that. HF, what a red neck. Wtf is the hat doing here, I don't care if the guy is good or no but what an embarrassment none the less.



28 Jan 2016 20:24:30
Was jason Holt not guaranteed playing time as well. He's worked out ok.



28 Jan 2016 20:27:47
Hooly78

Holt was bought King is on loan with a view to being developed for Hearts. Your point about Holt is irrelevant and the poster is right it's an embarrassment.



28 Jan 2016 20:33:29
Maybe we should contact Celtic and see if we can get Scott Allen on loan or get one of Aberdeen's young fringe players on loan too. Is that what we have become now?



28 Jan 2016 20:37:04
Stuzo

Sorry - got to pull you up on that one. "I don't care if the guy's good or no". Eh?

Come on - even Davie Dodds came good for us once or twice.

There's a though - the oddest signings for Rangers? That boy from Aberdeen that had fleece for hair. What was he called?



28 Jan 2016 20:45:55
Neale Cooper.



28 Jan 2016 20:50:01
You can chap strangers motor windaes with out a flinch on garage forecourts, but this will gie you a rid neck? Naw!
Impossible! LOL.



28 Jan 2016 21:14:08
Biffo, HF, man what a rid neck, do none o you get it . Hearts are taking the piss and we are letting them, never mind if he's good or not.



28 Jan 2016 21:15:42
Sourness, just posted reply to biffo, re this, hearts are making a James hunt of us, do you no see that.



28 Jan 2016 22:01:15
Stuzo

That's the point I'm making they are making a Helen hint of us and yes we are letting them.



28 Jan 2016 22:27:06
Stuzo, I'm in agreement with you mate, just trying to introduce a bit of levity to the situation. You're right, its poor. I'm wondering how W feels about this, not unless it was him that thought OH and Diagoura were too expensive. If not then he's been undermined and made to look a fool.



28 Jan 2016 19:57:41
Billy King? Why are people on here slating the guy before he's even kicked a ball for us just remember I don't think Jason Holt was guaranteed much playing time with hearts either and he's been a standout in a gers tip this season. Let's give the guy a chance and see where it takes us.



28 Jan 2016 20:23:48
I think the problem is we have been told by the manager at least two new faces coming in and if you all remember he said he would like to get players bedded in for the start of the new season in the premier league so that we could at least give the other teams in the premier league a run for their money.



28 Jan 2016 20:29:52
Zeus79

Holt was bought King is on loan. He is on loan to develop into a player for Hearts is that the right way to go? No one is slating the player or his ability more the fact that we are now in a position where we are developing players for Hearts.



28 Jan 2016 21:57:29
And if he scores or creates the goal that secures promotion biffo? Mw has one main target this year, automatic promotion. King has good experience in this league and is a decent all round player, which is what warburton likes. That's why he's here. If he helps get us promoted so what if we're also developing a young player for hearts at the same time? Personally I couldn't care less tbh, good luck to the lad.



28 Jan 2016 22:44:54
Spart7

No league is won by a player setting up 1 goal in a game. I've not said anything against the player my gripe is that we are now at the stage where we are developing players for a lesser club than ourselves. You seem so typical of a lot of the people on this site only interested in short term instead of looking at the big picture. I was slaughtered by some posters on this site when I criticised Ally during the seasons in the 2nd and 1st divisions and was told Ally is doing what he is paid to do getting us through the leagues them like you didn't look at the bigger picture. Signing players like him isn't the answer and is at best very short term.



28 Jan 2016 23:30:03
Spart7

Ok let's turn that scenario around a bit. King comes and Rangers develop and improve him. We go up and he then goes back to Hearts. How will you feel if he then sets up or scores a winning goal against us?



29 Jan 2016 00:22:41
Biffo, the big picture begins with promotion, we don't achieve that then we are in a world of trouble. Like I said, if he helps get us promoted then it's good business and whether that helps hearts out at the same time or not would be altogether irrelevant to me. Nothing to do with which club is the bigger club or how it looks to others, that's arrogant and disrespectful. King also said in his statement that he was initially here for six months, it was a huge club, great opportunity and that he'd see what happens from there which sounds to me like he wants to make an impression. As for your ally reference that's a stupid comparison imo. Half this forum, including myself, were scathing about the style of play and performances most of the time. There was little to be positive about. He wasted the money available to him though, warburton is clearly frugal to say the least and wants value for money, and in terms of on pitch performances it's night and day. I honestly don't see the problem you have with it.



28 Jan 2016 19:56:09
said last week on a post we don't have money to buy anyone anymore we will be getting players on loan for a very long time, where is the money only the board know that, aye I think we will win the league but not by a lot of points the God knows what will happen with season tickets sales paying back more loans think we are in for a long journey again.



28 Jan 2016 19:43:53
I think king might be a decent signing. I'll put my hands up and say when Holt signed I certainly felt under whelmed and look how he's turned out. The young lad is only 21 and he's played near 100 times I'm certainly willing to give him a chanel.



28 Jan 2016 19:53:43
Chanel no.5? Aye King Billy loves that gear. so do auld wumen who wreak of pish.



28 Jan 2016 20:11:24
That should of been chance lol.



28 Jan 2016 20:08:15
Looks like he can play as a no 10 also, like O'Halloran can play wing or up front, so maybe O'Halloran will still end up here.



28 Jan 2016 19:43:53
I think king might be a decent signing. I'll put my hands up and say when Holt signed I certainly felt under whelmed and look how he's turned out. The young lad is only 21 and he's played near 100 times I'm certainly willing to give him a chanel.



28 Jan 2016 19:52:25
Do you not think it's sad that we have sunk so low that we are developing players for Hearts? The comments from their manager show just how bad things are now.



28 Jan 2016 19:11:11
Remember school roll call I hope they do one every morning at Murry Park.

Wallace ---- Lee Here
Miller. ----- Kenny. Here
McKay --- Barrie. Here
King. ---- Billy Lol.



28 Jan 2016 19:03:30
I see osman sow contract expires in the Summer. Why not get him signed up? He's a handful, great pace and is exactly what we need. I'd prefer him to MOH. Also can everyone stop moaning re lack of signings this window, we will win the league with what we have.



28 Jan 2016 19:11:11
Remember school roll call I hope they do one every morning at Murry Park.

Wallace ---- Lee Here
Miller. ----- Kenny. Here
McKay --- Barrie. Here
King. ---- Billy Lol.



28 Jan 2016 19:03:30
I see osman sow contract expires in the Summer. Why not get him signed up? He's a handful, great pace and is exactly what we need. I'd prefer him to MOH. Also can everyone stop moaning re lack of signings this window, we will win the league with what we have.



28 Jan 2016 18:38:02
MW says that were making progress with a couple of players, if billy King is one of they players anyone have any insight on who the other couple be?



28 Jan 2016 19:08:11
PRINCE Bauben next.



28 Jan 2016 18:21:12
Billy king eh. not even a option to buy hime at end season either. very worrying times ahead bears. were totaly skint an if we get promoted then we be mid table team at best. how humiliating.



28 Jan 2016 18:36:20
Humiliating?
Where do people get off thinking they know more than the people in charge?
You are assuming the reason we have went for king is we are skint. Why?

Here are a few other possibilities

1) Warburton sees something in the lad that you don't see.

2) warbs has identified someone better value than MOH but they are not available until the summer.

3) there's merely no option to buy RIGHT NOW. There may be more option later.

4) the oh all oran deal may still be on the go.



28 Jan 2016 19:10:38
He is a loan player, from Hearts, a squad player, and he will be going back to them in the summer. I think we are seeing King for what he is, all mouth and no substance. Just another David Murray, using everyones money but his own. but he must be ok, he's a Rangers supporter.

Totally embarrassing unless we see a couple of quality players arriving before close of day Monday!



28 Jan 2016 19:54:57
TOM42

Your right mate totally embarrassing we have sunk so low now we are getting a player who can't get a game for Hearts to try and develop him for Hearts. It's one thing getting players from Spurs and Arsenal to try and develop but Hearts!



28 Jan 2016 20:14:04
Bluegenius: I agree, everyone so negative, it is difficult to get players in the January window and if Warburton reckons this could be a good deal to the end of the season (and he is a pretty good player) then maybe we should give the boss some credit.



28 Jan 2016 17:54:22
Does this mean Michael o'halloran deal is dead?



28 jan 2016 17:52:53
please just watch mw interview on gers webpage, a just love that guy, straight to the point, no messing, happy with board, happy with funds available, no issues, wont buy for sake of it, fit lean squad, please can we stop questioning rangers manager or board, they are doing the job. also touched on not wasting money and our financial past hence why we are so prudent going forward.

and how can you not like dave king he just bought the bears king billy hahaha could not resist that one.

they have brought in forrest and king on the wings so that we have waggy miller and clark who can play central and you have mckay that can play either side so all is good, we have the team, the lean squad, top of league, stop worrying

!



28 Jan 2016 17:31:52
If deals have been "drawn out" as MW says, surely this Billy King deal won't be the only thing that's happening.

Wouldn't imagine a loan deal taking this long to complete.

Surely a permanent, experienced holding midfielder will be signed soon as well.

As for those saying Billy King doesn't always start for hearts.

Would Michael O Halloran have started every game for us?

Would Michael O Halloran start every game for Hearts?

Why, just because he costs half a million at least?

Who here actually knows that Billy King isn't as good a player as Michael O Halloran?



28 Jan 2016 17:46:39
And your point is, Thorn?
This site is about opinions, not questions that cannot be answered.



28 Jan 2016 18:39:59
Point is Billy King will likely be better value for money than O Halloran.

Odds are he will have a similar chance to everyone else at the club to be a Rangers player next season.

If he proves himself on a loan deal, we may get this lad for a decent price and not an inflated price like we would have with O Halloran.



28 Jan 2016 19:15:58
He is a loanee from Hearts. We are becoming a laughing stock! He is a squad player. If Warburton develops him Hearts will get all the benefits. But of course King is wonderful and we can all joke about the guy's name.

Sorry, but if that is the best that we can do, then despite Warburton towing the Party line King is either unwilling or unable to bring in the targets that Warburton wants. Just a guy with a big mouth that loves to play to the press and who is liked by the media because he is a story for them.

Time for him to put up or shut up.



28 Jan 2016 19:15:58
He is a loanee from Hearts. We are becoming a laughing stock! He is a squad player. If Warburton develops him Hearts will get all the benefits. But of course King is wonderful and we can all joke about the guy's name.

Sorry, but if that is the best that we can do, then despite Warburton towing the Party line King is either unwilling or unable to bring in the targets that Warburton wants. Just a guy with a big mouth that loves to play to the press and who is liked by the media because he is a story for them.

Time for him to put up or shut up.



28 Jan 2016 17:20:00
Billy King is a great wee player, quick and tricky! I'm glad to see we have got him! He doesn't fit in at hearts as he's not a kick lumps out of people player!



28 Jan 2016 17:12:12
HF. A was just at that petrol station again filling up when a heard the news about silly King, a filled up wi petrol instead o diesel a was that shocked, I'm on Ma way to ninewells for a labotamy.



28 Jan 2016 16:42:45
Think will this Billy King deal happening it's further proof that we are simply skint. I have trust in King and co however I really really would like to see proof of funds because I'm getting fairly worried now and the last thing I want is another false messiah.



28 Jan 2016 17:34:32
I see the King signing as a straight replacement for oduwa, Hope King is a player that would be able to start games where as oduwa was more of an impact player with 20 mins to go.



28 Jan 2016 16:42:45
Think will this Billy King deal happening it's further proof that we are simply skint. I have trust in King and co however I really really would like to see proof of funds because I'm getting fairly worried now and the last thing I want is another false messiah.



28 Jan 2016 19:18:06
I trust the manager and guys like Park; not so sure about King. Talks a good game but no proof of delivery. Starting to sound like David Murray when the fans now want honesty not bullshit.



28 Jan 2016 19:18:06
I trust the manager and guys like Park; not so sure about King. Talks a good game but no proof of delivery. Starting to sound like David Murray when the fans now want honesty not bullshit.



28 Jan 2016 16:05:02
How many wingers are we going to sign? They'll have to queue to get a game though I supppose we will have to trust Warbs has a plan.



28 Jan 2016 16:59:42
Templeton will be back in at week or two as well.



28 Jan 2016 15:43:57
Just seen King Billy signed for the bears, strange to be honest, guys telling you Aaron mooy played st mirren few seasons back plays at Melbourne now excellent player box to box holds ball well tackles like wee McCall and pops the ball from 30 yards get cheap much better than rogic at the east end of our city love to you all from Australia special hello hello to the Carronshore boys hope to see you all soon follow follow.



28 Jan 2016 15:47:25
Michael o'halloran any news? Yet.



28 Jan 2016 15:52:15
King in now and 250,000 for the windass and crooks no o halloran unfortunately good kid and just what we needed chances we create and his pace would bet us 15 goals before end of season.



28 Jan 2016 15:56:16
Luigi said sky sports have a reporter at every petrol garage from ibrox to perth. Should be a bulletin any minute.



28 Jan 2016 16:02:15
Still no money. Loans only. A real shame.



28 Jan 2016 15:39:33
Right who had bets on a deal for billy king?

Thats one right out of the blue.



28 Jan 2016 15:51:34
Hope we have an option to buy the lad because I think he's a very good player!



28 Jan 2016 15:39:17
billy king set to come to rangers on loan until the end of the season.



28 Jan 2016 13:37:54
What does MW mean when he says "We're making progress"?

Has been saying this for a while. I understand it takes time to get deals completed and he doesn't want to put all his cards on the table, but I don't understand the meaning of "progress", when it's being said over and over again.



28 Jan 2016 14:07:36
it's called giving the press nothing to work with.



28 Jan 2016 14:27:26
That's all well and good.

He's been saying this since the start of the window though. Nothing has materialised from his "making progress" statements.

It's the 28th of January, and were still at the "making progress" stage. Is that supposed to fill the fans with confidence?



28 Jan 2016 14:54:27
Thorn you make a good point, we as fans will always be divided on this although if everyone is honest with themselves they are desperate to see some new faces through the door, that is afterall what transfer windows are all about.

I get the impression MW isn't fully looped into what stage any negotiations are at he is probably being fed a line. I don't particularly blame anyone just wish if they could keep one promise it would be complete transparency.



28 Jan 2016 15:11:30
Complete transparency is all we are asking for azzlee. It isn't too much to ask.

Confidence in the players builds with every win. But like everyone Warburton wants wins with style and to "send the fans home happy".

We are all happy with winning but when we Start consistently being sloppy and letting performances dip, that's when there is going to be calls for some reinforcements who are Rangers quality and not just Championship leaders quality.

We need the balance right as Warburton says but he has admitted the squad is very lean and we all have belief that whomever he brings in will have a positive impact on the team Now and next season.



28 Jan 2016 15:42:02
Mark Warburton never talks about any deals until they are completed, never has never will. The way it should be. Why do people think they have a divine right to a day to day progress report on every aspect of the clubs business affairs. We are fans, support the team and let the people running the club do what they're paid to do. When the transfer window shuts and the manager says he wasn't backed then have a moan, until then it's all hearsay and people making up scenarios in their minds.



28 Jan 2016 15:43:57
Thorn what do you think of Billy King deal?



28 Jan 2016 15:51:50
Progress means we're bidding it up a fiver a day until it gets accepted. MOH is out the windae with the boy King coming in anyway.



28 Jan 2016 15:57:27
Billy King has started the last 4 games for Hearts. But is behind Sam Nicholson in terms of getting a regular game.

Hearts are a better team than St Johnstone though mate so could be a good deal.

Hopefully the Michael O Halloran deal could still be in the works but it is doubtful.

Hopefully just an experienced Holding Midfielder now and we'll be sorted.



28 Jan 2016 13:05:02
Hearts have bid for John souttar rejected, wouldn't mind going for him even though it'd be very hard doing any kind of business with Dundee Utd, very promising young player in a position we need.



28 Jan 2016 11:59:13
Read evening Times Matthew Lindsey on do we need to sign more players in January, he sums it up well and his opinion is no, and he has outlined why he feels no and I tend to agree exactly on what he has said. Have a read the guy makes some fair points.

And regarding M O'Hal, I think that it is a done deal and that he will paly for Super J's against Hibs then will sign for us the next day. Fingers Crossed.

Last point is that had it not been for paying back SD loan of £5m just before the window we would have spent money no problem, but now that has had to be taken into account so fair play to the board not tossing cash about willy nilly!



28 Jan 2016 10:41:22
someone do me a favour and explain something to me. Rangers put in an offer for a premier league player and we get scolded for it. Hearts put a bid in for a premier league player which was initially reported at 100k and now looks to be much less than that. expected to be around 60-80k. why are they not being scolded for this? taking advantage of a team that are likely to go down.



28 Jan 2016 11:54:50
Don't usually come on here but having a wee peep lol just to explain as I see it he has 6 months left on his contract? Hearts bid 100 grand u say? This is a token really as if he has 6 month then surely he could sign a pre contract as you have done in England. ? Secondly m. o. h has 18 months I believe on his contract you, it seems bidded 100 grand they wanted 500 grand? Don't see how you can compare the situations? Sorry just my take? For the record I have many very good friends of hearts and rangers. before I get hammered by yous. cheers.



28 Jan 2016 11:59:50
Well for one thing Soutter is a 19 year old with 6 months left on his contract who is not even in the starting lineup every week for a team that is over 10 points adrift at the bottom of the table!

The MOH is a 25 star player with 18 months left on his contract playing for a team in top 6!

Really don't get what there is to explain!?



28 Jan 2016 12:35:52
It's soutter that we should be going for anyway! Would be a cracking young scottish signing, has real potential.



28 Jan 2016 13:23:40
Tompo, According to the performance data on Transfermarkt, he has planned 20 games, and has 1553 minutes under his belt this season alone. he is rated to be a decent player in the future and would easily cost anyone down south 400k for him if he had 1year+ on his contract so why is it that hearts are offering 60k for him and not being scolded for it? considering Dundee Utd could easily ask for 80k+ if he does leave for another team in the summer, youth costs and all that stuff.



28 Jan 2016 19:36:13
Fair point OSA and personally I think he is a cracking young player, however Jackie McMac and Pantilman (spelling) have both dropped him for several games and both have moved him from pillar to post (rb cb cdm) he is by no means the star player he should be considering the quality of Dundee Utd.

All of that aside you can't argue that a player that can leave for free in 6 months, who has also refused to sign a new contract (so will defo go somewhere for free) is going to be a hell of a lot cheaper than one with 18 months remaining who has not rejected any contract and is deemed the star of his team!?



28 Jan 2016 19:36:13
Fair point OSA and personally I think he is a cracking young player, however Jackie McMac and Pantilman (spelling) have both dropped him for several games and both have moved him from pillar to post (rb cb cdm) he is by no means the star player he should be considering the quality of Dundee Utd.

All of that aside you can't argue that a player that can leave for free in 6 months, who has also refused to sign a new contract (so will defo go somewhere for free) is going to be a hell of a lot cheaper than one with 18 months remaining who has not rejected any contract and is deemed the star of his team!?



28 Jan 2016 10:14:47
Widely reported Hearts have made a bid and been rejected for John Soutar from Dundee United. Seems likely they will go again.

Would like to see Rangers making attempts to secure him. Young, Scottish, experienced and room for improvement. Ticks all the boxes for me.

Thoughts?



28 Jan 2016 10:53:32
Not sure I agree entirely, is he not part a defense that has the worst good in that league?



28 Jan 2016 09:41:54
Seen this morning that hearts have had a bid rejected for the young lad Souttar from Dundee Utd and are preparing a second bid.
From what I've seen of him I think he looks like a real talented player, maybe he hasn't lived up to the hype from when he first broke in at Utd but still looks like he is promising at just 19 Years old.
I think we should be all over this, especially as the core of our defence has looked wobbly and Wilson does not look anywhere near the level we will need next season.



28 Jan 2016 10:04:01
I agree mate as much as I've seen of the guy he seems one of the few players that have stood out for them, i also think 150k would do it absolute bargain, big question though will they sell to us or does warbs want him.



28 Jan 2016 10:04:30
Agree 100 % don't forget he was being scouted by Man U early last season. This has been his worst season so far ( maybe injury? ) and only 19 with 2 and a half years spl experience.
Exactly the type of player MW could improve though I'm sure MW knows better than us.



28 Jan 2016 07:58:36
morning bears ;-)
just wonder what the headlines would have been if Rangers had went in for Soutar, with a bid of less than 100k?



28 Jan 2016 09:58:19
Was thinking that myself bil72 there would of been uproar.



28 Jan 2016 11:31:02
According to my jumbo supporting brother in law we have ripped off Scottish clubs for years never paying the proper valuation so if his view is similar to other supporters in Scotland, I argued the case pointing out fees we paid for Whittaker, Thomson and Miller but there's no point in doing this as he totally disagreed and went on to say we deserve everything that has happened to our club.



28 Jan 2016 07:13:29
Do you think we should take a punt on John Souttar, dundee utd . Cupl hundred grand would get him can play holding mid or centre half, promising young player.



28 Jan 2016 08:00:56
Try and take advantage of Boltons situation and sign Josh vela? Is John souttar out of contract in the summer?



28 Jan 2016 08:02:01
that sounds about right?
Hearts offer less than 100k and the mighty Rangers should double it?
Is this not how we got into the current position in the first place?
Get a grip guys, we don't have 'a couple of hundred grand'.
end of rant!

onwards and upwards (slowly! )



28 Jan 2016 08:14:44
We should defo be putting a bid in for John souttar. Double hearts offer and get him in the team now.



28 Jan 2016 09:11:00
guess we all that the gers do not have a couple of grand to spend
it will on wards and upwardly slowly and we not be expecting to be competing with the tic the dons tarts
for quite some time MW stay when he realise that he is unlikely to be in Europe within 3 years.



28 Jan 2016 09:33:50
Bowmac
I think Celtic are ahead of us no question, but the Sheep and Jambs? Really? Do they have more money and bigger resources than Rangers?



28 Jan 2016 03:29:28
Liam burr a midfielder not keeper.



28 Jan 2016 11:10:03
Indeed Burt is a midfielder, and would still rather him between the sticks than Bell.



28 Jan 2016 02:53:54
It's mental how many negative fans write on this. Complaining about lack of signings etc. we have already signed 4 players this window, 2 on pre contracts. We don't need anybody else, cruising in the league! Scoring for fun and playing great football. Fans have to start trusting Mark Warburton, if he really wanted these players we are linked with I'm sure he would get them. Save the cash for next season and bring in better quality that O'Halloran. I think some fans on here just want signings for the sake of it. Calm it!



28 Jan 2016 05:37:17
For me we are still short of quality players, especially with all the young lads going out on loan. As for the four signings, the two lads from Accrington Stanley won't be here until next season, (and we could do with them now) , and the two players that have signed are hardly going to make an impact on the starting eleven.

O'Halloran is a good young player and Warburton has been trying to sign a decent quality holding midfield player / defensive midfield player since he arrived.

While Eustace would have been ideal he would appear to have injury / family issues that resulted in him not signing but it is clear that a player of that type is still high on the wanted list.

Perhaps the negativity therefor relates to the fact that we have not signed anyone in this window to date that will help in the run in and with the risk of injury and suspension we have a wafer thin squad that lacks depth and quality in a number of positions.

We are not winning the league at a canter and Hibs and Falkirk both breathing down our neck and others capable of taking points from us if we suffer any more substandard performances.

Last but not least, King made statements that would appear now to have been foolish and his Board of Directors has jumped on the Band Wagon by saying that funds would be available for Warburton, funds that have not yet materialised just like King's £30m investment 'front end loaded' to bring in players to support the manager.

So far, from what I can see, it is the other Board Members and the two Hong Kong based fans that have been funding the Club through loans while King talks a good game but keeps his hands in his pocket.

Of course, like David Murray, he is good press and media with all his talk and that is what the press want.

He has seven days to prove his support for Warburton otherwise it will just be more bullshit like many before him.

Of course some will say, oh the funds will arrive in the summer to acquire the five or six players of quality that are needed to replace those that are at the end of their contracts and bolster an already weak squad but then, no doubt hen there is little positive movement in the transfer window the concerns will be there for what will hopefully be our return to the SPL.



28 Jan 2016 07:47:57
Ok let's get rid of King and get MA and the Easdales back?



28 Jan 2016 11:07:17
No one is saying bring back the Easdales but people are rightly questioning King given what now appears to be foolish 'David Murray' style comments that like his old friend he cannot for whatever reason fulfil.

There is nothing worse than unfulfilled promises to create concern and mistrust and King needs to either make things happen before February 1, or be honest with the fans.

If he was anything other than a Rangers supporter he would be getting a much rougher ride than is happening and one thing is for sure, if we are to compete next season we will need a number of new players both to replace those that will go in the summer and to improve the quality of our first team squad.



27 Jan 2016 23:44:15
If Rangers have allowed Fraser Aird to speak to another club, must mean we have a deal or two tied up and completed, and not just the talk we've been getting for a while now, "we're getting there", or "things are close".

They could never let another player go without having reinforcements.



 
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