Rangers Banter Archive May 28 2013

 

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28 May 2013 21:51:32
Has anyone heard anything about the friendly game they was talking about having with Arsenal. An has anyone heard anything about preseason. What's the club doing for it?

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Arsenal ladies fully booked up. Ally is worried it may be too soon for some of the young players.

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We should play arbroath cause they embarrased celtic at porkheid watp

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28 May 2013 21:31:37
We are beginning to put together a decent team, but need at least two defenders.

Bell

Mitchell
McCulloch
A. and other
Wallace

McLeod
Law
Peralta
Templeton

Daly
Clark

Subs

McKay
Black
Shiels
Little
Cribari

Getting there.

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It's good but in my honest opinion I'd keep little in there, 25 goals ain't bad for a season, especially since it was his first full length. Does anyone know if peralta is any good?

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29 May 2013 00:42:28
Looking good so far mate, a lot stronger than last season. But if we get Humphrey, who would you demote in midfield, if anybody?

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I do chuckle when you put 2 up front. Lol

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We need 2 CBs big mcculloch is starting to get injuries and will be lucky to play 20 games next season, black and cribari wouldn't even be on the subs bench if I was manager.

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Peralta's been playing right back for Honduras maybe that's the answer if Humphreys comes in.

Other than central defence don't want to many more in as I still think we need to bring the young lads on as I don't think we're out of the woods yet financially.

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The current squad with the new signings is good enough to win league next season, no further need to splash more cash.

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Daly has been brought in to play in defence he play most of last season in the utd team and still got good goal return little and Clark will be the strikers

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Mitchell isn't the answer at right back. We need someone similar to Wallace who has pace and will fly up the wing. Mitchell would be ok as a back up but not first choice

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Humphrey is not the answer good pace but no brain

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28 May 2013 21:31:10
Hi Bears

I must admit I am a little surprised but certainly impressed with the quality and speed of Rangers transfer business. On paper it appears we have made 4 decent signings. We just need a good RB and CH signing to have a reasonably strong first 11. with decent back up in reserve now that the likes of McKay, McLeod, Aird, Hegarty and Mitchell have had a tough 3rd division season under their belt.

So far it appears Mather has supported McCoist and delivered his first choice targets. so far. But perhaps that's been the easy part for Mather to try and impress everyone that he is the rightful CEO. I will personally be more impressed if he can get rid of the following donkeys WITHOUT having to pay off contracts with big fat cheques we can ill afford to write - and in keeping with the fact SFL rules only permits a 20-man squad.

- Argyreu
- Perry
- Cribari
- Faure
- Naismith

. and let's not forget we need to get rid of Bocanegra and Goian although I'd be happy if Bocanegra stayed but know we can't afford him.

So Mather - show us what you're really made of and at least get rid of these 5 donkeys - but not in the manner Bain cleaned up McLiesh's numerous disastrous signings which cost the club literally millions.

SPM

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Our transfer dealings have definitely improved! Surely a reduced deal can be done with Bocanegra, with bonuses for promotion etc. If Ally can create the right balance, and incentive, cause they're on enough then it seems a decent enough team to reach the spl. It's looking a lot better, but I'm still holding judgement for now regarding them bloody annual accounts. I'm expecting some loss, but I'm really hoping that we are not building on sand! Wise post SPM

Aye Ready.

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A decent manager would save you getting rid. Simples.

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How do you work that out #2?
A manager can only attempt to get the best out of players, what if Cribari's best was what we seen last season? He's hopeless, that's not the managers fault. And yes Ally did sign him, but we badly needed players and had to take what we get at the time.
"I won't be ordered around by a rock" lol.
P. O. B.

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29 May 2013 20:15:48
dont see why naismith is on that list the boys a good player and scored a couple goals to get us out of some bad results

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28 May 2013 21:08:59
Any bond holders also had email today saying club not honouring seat for life moving forward after this season?

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28 May 2013 16:23:20
Can someone given me a genuine reason why we are all obsessed with guys who previously played with us. I for one cannot think of one player who I would like to come back to ibrox.

Rino Gattuson has been talking about on here for the last 140 year.

Now going through the different feeds I have seen:
Boyd - Walked out on us
Miller - Too old and.
Stevie Smith - Injury prone and no one really knows anything about him now
Kevin Thompson - Wasnt good enough
Novo - He would be a glorified Broxi

We need to look to the future and not to the past. And people who are mocking the signing of a guy who scored 40 goals in division two are nuts. WE ARE IN DIVISION TWO!

After a pretty negative post I am actually feeling pretty optimistic about the season ahead. We have signed 4 decent players. I would like a right back and a centre half! What about Weir and Ricksen. :):):)

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Brillant finish mate. LOL. Grieg and Mathieson for me though.

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Well said could not agree more. look forward not back

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Laudrup for me, still looks fit

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Celtic fan here. I applaud the signing of Nicky Clark, he is exactly the signings you should be making. The others are good signings but to go now and sign say, Tom Hateley, Chris Humphries and give neil alexander a new contract as well as having signed Cammy Bell is overkill in my opinion.

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I agree with what you are saying, but Kevin Thomson not good enough? He was a great player for us and would have undoubtedly gone on to be Rangers captain had he stayed.

IDM

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28 May 2013 15:34:58
theres a rumour going about that we're playing sheffeild wednesday in a pre season game at their place. any truth in this?

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28 May 2013 17:30:43
If Charles green is pulling the strings behind the scenes then i'd put money on a sheff united v the rangers match lined up, him and Maher get to show off all the players they can sell in one go, that couldn't possibly happen eh lol

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24TH July I believe mate. I it could be a good indication of how well the new signing have settle into the club.

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We can't play the new guys till Sept 1st, I heard goian and boca will be back with us next season that's why no defence transfers as of yet, hatley will prob join for right back

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@3, the new signings can play in friendly s and upto 3 league games as trialists before 1st September

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We can play new guys as trialist, but number of games limited.

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Can they be played as trialists if they've signed contracts with the club but haven't been registered yet?

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28 May 2013 15:18:15
would rather play with no centre half all season than sign titus bramble!

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I hope no one at rangers see this mate or we might be in trouble lol.

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Have to agree with the post he is terrible even for the Scottish second division.

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Playing with 10 men would be better than Titus, he is a disaster walking.
billyb

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28 May 2013 14:50:57
Bill McMurdo suggesting that we would accept an invite to SPL2 and jump up a division. This must not be allowed to happen under any circumstances. We will work up the leagues on our own merit. Do not allow this fast tracked nonsense to prevail.

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It won't happen. The spl won't invite us. As long as dumfermilne, who were relegated from div1, aren't invited after they expressed their desire to leave the sfl.

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Well well, is this the same mob that refused to sanction Rangers into Div 1. If and its a big if, this is true then I hope Rangers reject the invite.

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Don't think this will happen but if we accept any place in SPL 2, I won't be back.

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28 May 2013 13:28:55
People complained all last season about the defence and yet there wanting more attacking minded players bought you have Curtis osano from Wimbledon decent centre back and only early/mid 20's for right back you have 1 of 3 of these players Aryn Williams 19 burnley nii nortey 18 Chelsea and Jackson ramm 19 Colchester, we could always try for Titus bramble or kilgannon but I doubt any of them two would sign

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Curtis is happy with AFCW- I know the club has just signed a new defender and midfieklder yday - but Neil (Ardley) is taking club forward on a budget that is in the bootton 4 of League 2 - Already 2, 400 season tickets signed up- not bad for a club that kept itself in the Football Leauge with a win on the last day. One of the best defenders at AFCW is a young guy called Jim Fenlon and he ain't going nowhere- I will gladly keep you posted about any possible yoing players for Rangers, but most of the squad are U-21 and stay local to Merton - Afcw

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28 May 2013 12:51:45
We need to sign YOUNG decent defenders about 21-25 so we can develop them through the next 2 division so we will have a strong defence so we can win the SPL as soon as we are back! WATP

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Are you joking? We are miles behind Celtic on and off the park, it will take years to win the spl again.

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Ffs dream on mate

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@1 how are we miles behind the mhanks off the park?

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@3 have you just woke up?

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28 May 2013 12:47:35
Does anyone have any defenders that are possibly signing? We're signing mid and foreword players but we really need to strengthening our defence!

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28 May 2013 12:40:03
Why do people on here keep harping on that we are losing £1m a month? Because we made a loss for a period of time and just divided it by the number of months? That is not how it works I'm afraid. Does income and expenditure stay exactly the same every month?

The period in question included payments of all footballing debts with the only real income being that of season ticket money and shirt sales. No TV money (However little), no sponsorship or advertising? There was also a period of time before high earners went out on loan and the wages had to be paid.

But what about the share issue money?! I hear so many people say. The share issue money is not classed as income. It is capital introduced into the company to cover the running of the club and any losses until such times as we can turn a profit. At no point was is said by anybody that we'd make a profit in the first year. Few business rarely do.

Have patience!

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@OP: how much share money was really raised? Does anyone know? And how much money will the club be making in the next 3 months? Apart from ST money, which is essential, not much. Is there money available to cover day-to-day costs and all these new players with higher-than-average wages, not to mention their signing on fees?

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@1 What signing on fees?

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I kinda laugh at the while 1m a month thing. most clubs. in fact almost every club runs at a monthly loss! unless in europe (for small teams) teams make mass profit at the end or beginning of seasons (and halfway point) from season tickets, prize money, sponsorship merchandising and player sales etc. this is kinda how it always has been. all I care about is end of year figures if they are a loss then there is reason to worry. However I supsect that rangers will run at a loss in the low leagues and not make a profit til we are back in the top flight. what we need to focus on is making sure we create organised system that allows us to at least break even if not in europe in the SPL only til we do this will be able to properly progress and attract other investors.

Del

Derek

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OP talking nonsense!
Share money is for capital investment into the company for asset strengthening or strategic projects. Examples might be purchasing players on long contracts or building a stand.
IT IS NOT FOR COVERING OPERATING COSTS. NEVER.

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@2: there are usually signing on fees with Bosman deals - they may be small in this case but it can often mean the difference between choosing one club over another if wage offers are similar.

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1) and what clubs are making a fortune in the close season? They are about to take in £10 m in season ticket sales, they have the launch of a new strip which will no doubt be snapped up. I would rather have our income than all, bar Celtic, SPL clubs. Op is spot on, the first figures were never going to be good.

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@6: how much money do you think the new strip will make the club? It's rumoured that the deal with Puma is a flat fee with them taking all profits from stock shifted; if not, it'll be a tiny fraction of the profit that the club receives - miniscule, even, as that's how these deals work. {Ed001's Note - depends on where you buy the shirt from. If the club sells them itself, then it would get the merchant's cut, which is usually in the order of 50%+ of the cost. Normally more, which is why shops can have sales, as they still get a profit at sale price.}

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28 May 2013 12:23:23
We need a bew centre half.

Titus bramble has been released.

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Bramble will have been on at least £25k a week.

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No wonder. He also scored for Wigan a few years ago when they drew 1-1 with Liverpool. That goal cost me just over 15k and it still hurts.

Blueice

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And he's a big lump a crap

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28 May 2013 12:10:29
Boy Clark signs 3 year deal
STV news
billy h

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28 May 2013 11:59:28
"SFL clubs to vote on 42 club solution - June 12th. If proposals not passed, div one clubs to break away within 48 hours" (BBC)

So does that leave us with no where to go if we win D2?

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No its going be 1 up 1 down.

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@1 my understanding is the SPL2 is a breakaway (now talking about expulsion by SFL) from SFL, so no 1 up 1 down between SPL2 and SFL as there will be no contractual relationship.

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No way mate. There is a 1 up 1down plan in place.

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I will only say this once, if the breakaway goes ahead then the bottom 2 divisions are doomed, as they will be a totally diffrent entity, within a period oftime maybe spl will invite some but no way will they all be invited

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Believe me they want us back up as solos as possible, they need our money. It will be one up one down, in fact don't be surprised if play offs as well.
I think it is time the SFL clubs grew a pair, the rules say they have to give two years notice to quit. Hold them to it. The div one teams are only interested in their own bank balance, there is no thought of the good of the game. They get the most and they want it, they are saying they need the money to stay full time. They don't deserve to be full time, nobody watches them, nobody cares about them. And why the sudden need for more money?

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@4 how come since the SPL has been on there own clubs from the 1st division have been promoted to suggest these teams are doomed is just stupid.

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N4 it would be good if as you say were doomed that way we could keep our own tv money do you know rangers were the most games watched and wanted last season

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28 May 2013 11:45:15
Nicky Clark now confirmed as 4th signing so far. Unveiled later today.

On the RFC website.

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We need a midfielder in what about kevin Thomson,

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Wow super sally how did u find clark let me see u see him have 1 good season and bang u sign him do u never learn try scouting a player b4 u sign them but all u see is he scored 40 goals in div 2

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Quite a squad we have. In fact I'd go as far to say it's easily the 2nd best in Scotland. Ally really needs to do some damage in the cups next season, there's no excuses for him not to.

Seriously guys, we have far better players than the Hibs team that took to Hampden on Sunday.

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What about Barry Ferguson or Gattuso. Or maybe even Terry Hurlock.

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If your going to have a defender on the treatment table he, s the best man to be on the table

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Ed going to stop Kevin Thomson from posting on here.

JG

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My thoughts exactly, why do we need all these costly players for div 2, to cover up allys weaknesses

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Nicky clark will be a striker like ally

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Is Baxter available?

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28 May 2013 11:21:05
Seeing the limited company that owns Dunfermlines stadium has gone into administration, same as the club.

Clubs not owning their grounds is a terrible thing.
I don't believe rangers FC owns Ibrox or Murray Park either.

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Who does then?

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I know Dundee FC definetley don't own Dens. don't see how it has affected them in any way? other than having to pay out rental.

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OP - so the owner of Ibrox just allows 22 guys to run all over his lawn every second saturday

Nowhere in the interims did it say we were paying rent for Ibrox unless I missed it

Unless the prospectus was deliberatley misleading and untrue, it stated that the all assets incl. Ibrox and Murray park were owned by RFC 2012 and would be transferred to RFIC atter the floatation

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28 May 2013 16:15:03
I will probably get shot down for this but I can remember back to what the original lease of the ground that Murray park was built on was talked about, 99 year lease plus two seats in the directors box for the old boy and his son who owned the land. not once have I heard of the land being bought outright, but definately trfc own the buildings on that land just not sure they own land outright. any info ed or links to sale of the land specifically?

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@3/ The prospectus actually said the club 'have the use of' Ibrox. no mention of owning it. Until audited accounts are shown no one knows anythng

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@5 this is staright from the prospectus, section B2

RFCL acquired the assets and business of the Club on 14June 2012from RFC 2012 plc and now operates the Club and other ancillary businesses. Immediately prior to Admission, the Company will acquire RFCL pursuant to the Share Exchange Agreement,

and section B3

"The Club’s primary asset is Ibrox Stadium, situated 2.5 miles south-west ofGlasgow city centre and has been home tothe Club since 1899. The all-seated50, 987capacity stadium is OWNED BY RFCL and houses a retail outlet, restaurants, function rooms and executive suites".

aagin, the prospectus states that Ibrox was owned by RFCL which would be aquired by RFIC upon the floatation

Nowhere can I find where it says the club would have the use of the stadium

JG

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28 May 2013 07:51:54
does anybody else think the lemon is trying so hard in the media to convince us all that the double he was given ( still can't win a treble with no gers ) is worthy and not tainted, lol?

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Look they won the double. Well done. Probably not as rewarding as the ones under o'neil or strachan but who cares? Not me. let them have their glory. Don't let it bother you. Most honest people don't even listen to or read lennons comments anyway. It usually amounts to a bad loser quote.

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Mate, who cares what he does, let's just concentrate on ourselves. Ignore them and they will get bored.

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With the performance you put in D3 you would have been relegated from SPL this season, so give us a grip.

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Rangers played in the scottish cup this season! Got a roasting off Dundee Utd. Is it Lennon or Celtics fault you couldn't get to the final and compete for the trophy? Nothing tainted about it. As for the league, well. We all know its not Celtics fault Rangers are in the position they are so to cry tainted title just amounts to arrogance. Celtic could only compete to win the league against what was put in front of them and they did that. Years from now when you look back in the history books it will read Celtic SPL champions 2012/2013, that's it! It won't have beside it (Without Rangers in the same division). I think you should just concentrate on the current plight of Rangers instead of getting your self agitated about Lennon & Celtic's achievements.

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Rangers won 9 in a row when Celtic was rubbish but on cared.

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@3. If we were still in spl we wouldn't have had the same players as we had this season.
we would have signed a better class of player and therefor not been relegated and would have been challenging for the league and cups.

With the squad from this season possibly yes, we may have been relegated

Heed rtid

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@3

With the current team ( 2012/13) yes you are right. Who is to say though, that we would have lost all the players we have had we still been in the SPL. Not really a good argument from you, we will never know though.

p. s

I am a gers fan, and don t give a toss what lennon or anyone concerned with cfc think or do, it just does not interest me.

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I take your point on the league without Old Rangers but hey new Rangers could not have compeated (see cup results for proof) so its a valid title against the best Scotland has, as for the cups your inept manager stated you were signing players for a go at the cups (until knocked out) then he back tracked and said the league was all important.

Put away your Lennon and Celtic obsession and concentrate on celebrating your new clubs first trophy

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To (3) if Celtic justify double as beating the teams they face then why would the same not apply to Div 3 - also remember that Celtic won SPL this year with the lowest points total ever - add no Rangers and this tells the story of Celtic's achievement

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"Tainted" : If you look up that word in any dictionary, you are most likely to find the definition, "morally corrupt", Celtic FC won the double totally fair and square, without any corruption, without any cheating, without any undisclosed payments to players, without any EBT's, without owing over 300 business's, charities, emergency services and honest tax payers over 100 million pounds, without any fraudulent activities in order to give themselves advantage over opposition, whatsoever, WHO'S titles and honours are "TAINTED"?
Finn

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@5 agree, couldn't say title was tainted for 9 in a row because Celtic weren't performing, there is always circumstances that makes one team have edge over another. This time it's self inflicted club transfer ban and admission via D3. Can't really complain.

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Look I am a rangers fan and don't care what Celtic won or who against but u can't take it away from them they beat who they had to its defo not tainted in any way so forget about them and concentrate on us will be 2 years before we need to worry about Celtic by that time they will have 4 in a row and we will need to mount a challenge to try and stop 5

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Every time celtic win the league it will be remembered as the time rangers were not in spl so it is tainted titles

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@13: did you read #10 with the definition of 'tainted'? How are any of the titles corrupt?

By your logic, because Celtic weren't in D3, is Rangers D3 title is also tainted?

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10) you are on the soap box again, pity your inference that we did cheat is "tainted". The fact is that no we did not. Despite your ignorance and complete inability to read the rulings, EBTs are not and never have been illegal. £100m, you are deluded. You are again thinking that the various web sites that you lot lived by was dross. These were the so called debts, just rubbish.
You however are the kind that thinks that Celtic's title win is the greatest thing that has ever happened, you knew on day one that you would win it, you dropped more points than for tens of years. You were playing nobody, and you struggled. It is also the reason why your ground is half empty, it is also the reason why you are reducing season ticket prices. A competition with no competition is nothing.

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28 May 2013 06:58:43
Just looked at the Scottish cup final with the footage of the so called Islam banner and the tweets that go with it every one of them rangers and Chelsea also Birmingham with a few from other right winged fringed illiterates, not at any point did the flag look any thing like Islam you can clearly see island this has just gone too show how far the element in these so called clubs will go just to wright a slur on Celtic but one thing gets me if you can't read but can wright this crap what schools did these people go to, jodrok

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Think you should read just what you wrote about spelling, its write not "wright", silly obssesed!

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Hopefully one that teaches spelling better than yours.

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Hopefully the 'right' school, where they learnt to read and 'write' and not the isle of 'wright' school that you attended.

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Schools that taught us to spell, write and use grammar correctly. It also taught us right and wrong.
'wright'.
billyb

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Skitt's Law never fails

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You canny spoke right! Write! Lol

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I agree there was no mention of islam in the flag, but still didn't stop a so called celtic fan creating the twitter account ISLAM CFC 5088, this will keep going round and round until BOTH clubs acknowledge there is a problem element that needs to be got rid of.

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Safe to say op has been owned!!

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28 May 2013 13:16:52
Not one reply here doing anything than ridicule the OP. Interesting. Putting the spelling to one side, nobody think he has a point?

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What are the odds that he does not sign off with 'jodrok' again?

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What exactly was his point? Does not make sense to me at least.

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So going by the above replies you were all watching the mighty Celtic, talk about obsessed

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, surely this post is a p155 take.

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Now that was the easiest 20 I have ever made but can you tell me, you didn't have a problem reading that so its just that you are pure bigoted obsessively about Celtic that much, that your willing to lie and I am going to collect my 20 from a silly billy who had faith in his own, the bet was ther will not be one thing on this page of an apologie for the lies but will all be about spelling, thanks I know you wouldn't let me down, jodrok

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Point 9 - no!

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28 May 2013 16:19:09
@11 It seems fairly clear the OP's point was about the recent misguided hysteria about an alleged Islam flag at the cup final. @15 so you think that merits no comment at all and is of no concern to the honest gers fan who supports what is after all the clubs official policy on "no to racism"? Let me voice the decent view then - as a gers fan I found it embarassing and worrying. Not that this doesn't go on at other clubs, but I find the deliberate mass denial that engulfs my fellow gers fans disconcerting.

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Jodrok beats the odds, but what about odds on said poster using '. ' ( a full stop) in any of his posts? Any takers, roll up roll up.

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To 16. ] I, amongst others, did not watch the game so could not comment on the incident. So don't be embarrassed for me as the original post is a joke and if you are taken in by his comment at 14. ] then more fool you.
Regarding your ' mass denial that engulfs my fellow gers fans'--- please tell me what planet you are on as I cannot see ' hysteria', just an illiterate, unnecessary post.
billyb

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@14 Phaha quality bit of backtracking there Jodrok! Enjoy your fantasy £20!

Seriously though, what's all this Islamic flag talk about? I genuinely have no idea what folk are on about. Never watched the Scottish cup final. I didn't bet on Hibs either, I'd have sooner taken Jodroks bet ;0)

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Sorry, just Googled the whole flag thing there. What a bunch of fa**ies the EDL etc are. Is it part of the inbreeding that affects their ability to read properly?

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@20. Well said. The most interesting thing about these Edl people is the name. They broke off from the bnp but dropped the b in favour of e. They don't like the rest of us on these islands either. Their so called leader uses a false name. They also seem confused between the meanings of against and for. So there is no doubt ; in world war 2 we fought against fascism not for it and we won. Nothing is more insulting than these Nazi persons using the British army in their half witted attempts at propaganda.

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29 May 2013 13:19:34
@18 I am firmly on planet earth which I am happy to share with all its people. I fear however that the strange allure of wanting to one of The People, somehow above the rest of this planet's onderfully diverse people, continues to have the majority of my fellow bears fooled.

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28 May 2013 02:41:26
It's sad to see when a lot of fans on here seem to only
Support this club because of the history.
This club is on the track of another melt down and all I hear
And read is more trophys.
Truth. Reaction
Boardroom meltdown - biggest club in Scotland
Losing mil a month. - who we adding to squad.

Sick of also hearing how we need rangers men owning the club. Where has everybody been, it was rangers men that
Killed this club, from owners, to prev managers,
And don't get me started on ally, all he says in the press is what he thinks we want. Ally is just a puppet for these muppets at boardroom level. And will be a scapegoat when
Goes udders up.
It's about time we starved this club of funds. Everybody
Seems to forget this is our club more than these owners.
We stop giving money they go bust.
Said b4 if this was another club with more real fans they would
Form there own rangers, like Man United and Wimbledon fans did.
For diff reasons but more or less the same. But then I'm back to the original rant as most rangers fans only want a club
That has a record of achievment, than a well run club.
I think it's time I picked an English team to support.
Who has the biggest history in the epl, might support them

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Mate people jump on the band wagon. As a kid I went toFirhill And then jumped on the Rangers bandwagon the year before thistle won the league cup. Blue and proud mate.

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The second last line of your post OP was the only bit that seems logical to me.
You certainly don't come across as "supporting" the same club as I do with ideology like that.
You go find an English club and leave the rest of us to support Rangers.

P. O. B.

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It's also great to see a lot of supporters on here who are looking to the future! We have a great opportunity here to make history by contributing to a new chapter. A lot to be proud of, and a lot of valuable lessons to learn from. The battle right now is to get, and support good people at the club. We will get there.

Aye Ready

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N2 I agree with you I think op is an imposter tmwnn

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28 May 2013 01:04:38
Nicky clark will be a bear b4 he goes on holiday and miller could be in also

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28 May 2013 00:46:19
Clark will sign tmoz. Humphrey next on the list. Would love hateley big it's and 2 new cb for next season going forward!

Scott

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What happened to the persistant insistence that Miller was signing, Scott?

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Miller will sign I promise, murphey will sign also.

I said law Clark daly would sign, I said Wilson would stay in Scotland.

Trust me

Scott

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@2: you said he would sign last week and haven't explained how this will happen when he is under contract - do you have inside knowledge that it'll be terminated?

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Scott all these names were linked with Rangers in the newspapers before you mentioned a single one of them. All your doing is taking a punt that they will sign. If they sign you'll be thinking we'll believe your nostradamus reincarnated and if they don't you'll do the harry houdini from this rumours page for a while or use a different name.

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Everything u said so far has happend so don't let us down ha

Fraz {Ed001's Note - so are you Fraz or Scott? Let me guess, you share a comp or is it just a coincidence you have the exact same IP?}

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@5

BUSTED!! lol

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No 4 - great post!

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Coincidence

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27 May 2013 23:03:18
All you wood be managers, god you're pathetic at times.

You automatically assume that the wee man has over spent! can't you think along the lines that he has cut deals where attachment and advancement over three years will reap rewards and free up promises set out in agreements, both verbal and contractually, why must you always see the dark side, a but then could be that you are one of these sad Celtics from the dark side with nothing better to do than to fill your limited scull with so much doom and gloom, are you really a Gers fan, sure your not a moaning faced, jungle Jim! Talk about something constructive, at least till you know better what your talking about, Alley might not be the sharpest manager going, but give him time. And you who ever you are get a job writing fairy tails or something equal to your imagination.

Buchan Bear.

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Oh dear where have you been the last couple of years these players won't have a sell on value we should be trying to get a quality tem together ( if you know what that is ) even if it means holding back till we are in a better position to do it. As for your other negative comment are you one of these guys that accuses supporters of our club who think that The Gers doing something negative, we belong to the other side. Get real.
Bobby

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Well said Buchanan bear.

Ozzie. Al

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All fans are entitled to their opinion about the ability of the manager and players at the club. Maybe rather than having a cheap shot at the people who have a go at Ally take a look at the performances of the team since he took over. His record in the cups is shocking, he has had more bad signings than good and the performances last season were disgraceful. If u r happy with that then maybe u r the Celtic fan in disguise

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It's people like you that the club are in such a mess, ally is on 1 millon a year and is useless, I beat you were 1 of the real fans who paraded ibrox to cheer Craig whyte when he 1st came. person.

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Is McCoist this 'wee man' you refer to? Have you seen him recently?!

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Would'nt trust Ally with your money OP and I don't know you from Adam!

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"Give him time"
Laughable.
He's an old man.

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@5 he's still better looking than Lennon, saying that so is an alien. Ha

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Buchan
apart from the Motherwell game how many times has an Ally MCcoist team played better than you thought?
maybe Alloa wee bits and bobs in some games, ask yourself how many times did Rangers play BETTER and not that flat style of football we have been treated to since Ally was in charge. if you can tell me different i, d like to hear you

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@8, Looks like Ally's ate an alien, Ha!

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7. Less of the old man mate, he's the same age as me!

Seriously it always amuses me when Ally's referred to as a young manager. He's older than guys like Mourinho and almost a decade older than Guardiola.

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Ally is 5 years older than jock stein was when he won the ec. 9 years older than fergie was when he won ecwp with dons. He will be the same age as Willie waddell was when he won ecwc in a few months. He is not by any stretch of the imagination a young manager. Time is up.

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@10: or people could eat Ally as he's beginning to resemble the Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man.

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27 May 2013 21:43:35
Somebody please provide a link where I can find the uefa rule which states we need to submit three years accounts to obtain a licence to play in Europe. I think you will find it don't exist

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Article 59 – Notion of monitoring period
1 A monitoring period is the period over which a licensee is assessed for the
purpose of the break-even requirement. As a rule it covers three reporting
periods:
a) the reporting period ending in the calendar year that the UEFA club
competitions commence (hereinafter: reporting period T), and
b) the reporting period ending in the calendar year before commencement of
the UEFA club competitions (hereinafter: reporting period T-1), and
c) the preceding reporting period (hereinafter: reporting period T-2).
As an example, the monitoring period assessed in the licence season 2015/16
covers the reporting periods ending in 2015 (reporting

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UEFA Clubs Licensing and Financial Fair Play Regulations 2012
www.uefa.com/. /uefaorg/. /1805410_D.

Page 12, I'll think you'll find it there

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Mate its fact. Just bear with it. Its a fact

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Try this link.
Article 47 of UEFA’s Club Licensing Criteria states states: “Each licence applicant is required to provide a copy of its audited annual financial statements as defined in respect of the statutory closing date prior to the deadline for submission of the application to the SFA and prior to the deadline for submission of the list of licensing decisions to UEFA. Audited financial statements must include the auditor’s report. The auditor must be independent as defined in Annex 01 / 01. 1 of Part 4. ”

The Scottish FA requires clubs to forward a copy of audited accounts to them by March 31.

Article 50 refers to payables overdue towards employees and social/tax authorities and states: "Licence applicants must demonstrate that as at 31 March 2012 they have no payables overdue towards their employees or social/tax authorities as a result of contractual and legal obligations towards their employees that arose prior to 31 December 2011. "

We didn't make deadline still haven't "again" which for a club of our size is an abslolute disgrace. Another extra year without European Football for us.
Instead of a price freeze they should be halving the price of season tickets due to their incompetence. We are being fleeced yet again. we will be in Premier League and most like likely win it and not gain entry to Europe? god or even win one the cups before then and no entry. will that be looked at in relation to the price of our season tickets. or will we buy a player/players as smokescreen? Groundhog day . god no change there.

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CAS upholds 3 year rule decision on Timisoara

http://www.uefa.com/uefa/aboutuefa/news/newsid=1652377.html

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RFC cannot compete in Europe before Summer 2015 as they have to have been a member of the SFA for at least three years.

"UEFA Club Licensing and Financial Fair Play Regulations Edition 2010"

Article 12 states in full:-

“Article 12 – Definition of licence applicant

1 A licence applicant may only be a football club, i. e. a legal entity fully responsible

for a football team participating in national and international competitions which

either:

a) is a registered member of a UEFA member association and/or its affiliated

league (hereinafter: registered member); or

b) has a contractual relationship with a registered member (hereinafter: football

company).



2 The membership and the contractual relationship (if any) must have lasted – at

the start of the licence season – for at least THREE consecutive years.

Any alteration to the club’s legal form or company structure (including, for example, changing its headquarters, name or club colours, or transferring stakeholdings
between different clubs) during this period in order to facilitate its qualification on sporting merit and/or its receipt of a licence to the detriment of the integrity of a
competition is deemed as an interruption of membership or contractual relationship (if any) within the meaning of this provision. ”

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Thanks for all responses but it appears I was correct, stay focused on the question, nowhere does it say there is a requirement for three years accounts to grant a licence to play in europe
so that puts that to bed

For a licence to be granted requirements are one year accounts with comparative figures for the previous year and we need to have been a member of SFA for three years, our first year has passed, two more to go

Now everybody read Annex 1 of the document "Exceptions".
If and it is a big If we happen to qualify next season or the preceeding season and our books are in order, then an exception could be granted to allow us a licence to play in europe

I don't understand what the fuss is about this year, remember we need to qualify for Europe (or have a chance of qualifying) before we even apply for a licence and to be honest we are far from ready for European football right now

As for our financial state, the financial year ends on 30th June then we need to see audited accounts shortly after that

JG

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JG, those quotes specifically say they can't have a license to play in Europe. I don't know if you were reading every 2nd word, or upside down or something.

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