Rangers Banter Archive August 29 2014

 

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29 Aug 2014 10:56:51
How can a businessman with the pedigree of Graham Wallace be party to our corrupt and discredited Board framing the new £4million share offer in such terms of desperation? Bears should be under no illusions that it really is that serious. There is a ferocious schism at the top that will destroy our club unless the Easedales and their corporate puppet masters yield to the urgency for new finance. Today's cri de coeur should end the whistling in the dark about fan ownership. It hasn't happened and is now a redundant debate. Sugar Daddy or not, we need a Rangers man of means and probity to finally come forward with the missionary zeal of 1986. No, I have no new names or magic solutions, just pointing up the scale of the looming crisis. Wallace's credibility, such as it is, is on the line. If he cannot persuade the Board to act in the club's interests rather than their own, he should walk and expose.

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Very well said. Avoiding the politics taking place and appealing to fans who follow the club, a sold out Ibrox every second week goes a long way to solving our problem. This boycott serves no one and needs to end.

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29 Aug 2014 14:48:26
a sold Ibrox would go a long way to giving the spivs more of the same jesus wept

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29 Aug 2014 14:49:22
also think players will be sold late in the window

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@1 so its the boycotters fault is it I don't think so all this board have done is beg borrow and steal and lie that's us two assets down already and in debt but yet we wer debt free when wallace released his 120 day review

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29 Aug 2014 18:00:09
We are only 10,000 STs down on last year (23k v 33k). At an average of £250, that only equates to £2.5m, or around the £2m mark once the VAT is paid. That only accounts for about a month. We would still need a massive injection of money before the end of the year.

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Eddy your right I have not been back not due to boycot which is no use (u o f brainwashed by king) who has no intention of using his own money but due to the abysmal management and total lack of effectivive tactics in other words macoist must go

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Les wake up who have we to sell other than lee wallace who I believe does not want to go u would not get 2 lucky bags for any of the rest

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Administration 2. What a state this proud and historic institution is in.

The club has become a cash cow for all sorts of spivs and crooks out for a quick buck.

We should be looking at a supporters buy out and seize control.

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Les, what players do we have that are worth any money? We couldn't give them away! McLeod is all we have that any half decent scout or club would give a second glance to. Do you not think that all clubs have already been notified that a bargain basement sale is on?

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We only have 2 players that anyone might want. The rest you couldn't give away. That sad state of affairs is purely down to our inept manager and his inability to bring on players or buy players with any sell on value. Once again another example of the failings of Ally

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29 Aug 2014 22:00:25
bruce yes I do. McCoist wiz in some mood the day?. templeton,shiels,and a n other is my guess with some young lads sent out again McKay ect.it won't be jig but think non performing larger wage players will go

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29 Aug 2014 18:44:32
Ok here is a nonsense post for you. I know nothing about finances and don't claim to, but I genuinely feel we will be saved if and when we come to the point of no return, almost like it will take that for someone to do something. Don't ask me how, and cue the sarcastic replies but I feel we will find a solution. Some may think we r already at that point but we're not quite there.

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Guys,

we paid players/managers £50m tax free. its now time for then to return this money, as it was loan.

club on real crisis point, a second admin would leave us in championship and without money to improve

players and managers should give 10% back in next 12days to fund this float, they wore heart on shirts. so now pony up!

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That's not going to happen no way will any of these players give the money back. You may like to think that they played for the jersey and loved the club but in reality they played for the money. It's only really the fans who care about the club and ultimately it will be the fans who suffer

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Arthur8 rangers fc would not get a penny if players decided to pay back the loans it would go to the creditors of the club before we went into meltdown the club would not get a penny of any returned money as its not the same company

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29 Aug 2014 10:56:21
Well done UoF you have almost put the final nail in our coffin THANK YOU VERY MUCH!

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Here we go again,, blame blame blame,, everyone but the real culprits. Wake up this was always going to happen we are getting bled dry and it was time to stop the rot. Why do you wish to blame us the fans for the troubles?? the coffin was buried many months back,

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29 Aug 2014 15:22:12
I agree, the Uof made the board spend what was it 70 mill in 2/3 years.
Made the board hire countless peeps just to let go with huge golden parachutes.

This board including the previous boards are only interested in making money for themselves. The Uof and most of us fans realise that this club will not last much longer the way we are trading.

And ally needs to go either he knows all the problems we are having but ignores them, or is totally clueless and out of his depth.

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29 Aug 2014 15:33:52
I thought the fans who did not renew season tickets were to put there S.T monies into a fund run by king & gough and if the club got into difficulty then this would be used because as fans they wouldn't wish to see the club go to the wall . again so to the fans who did this get your cash and buy S.T now or we won't have a club to support .
not that I'm a supporter of the board but there not going anywhere unless they are bought out and at the end of the day they could just finish the club sell ibrox,m.p etc and then we would have sweet f.a. if u think about it they would make more cash and line there pockets this way .
r.f

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29 Aug 2014 17:39:22
ALLY : The coffin isn't buried but is on the way to the cemetery, the fans are shovelling the dirt on it with the boycott but we ain't dead and I have a hunch we won't die.

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Ally said won't discuss finances just football, but he one of the major exisitng shareholders. will he buy more at 20p and see his stake reduce by 21%

should be easy yes, not won't discuss it!!

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29 Aug 2014 19:43:37
@3. According to the release the board only hold ~1% of the shares. It would not take a whole load to buy them out

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29 Aug 2014 19:46:47
@5. Well he didn't buy any when they were offered in the IPO, so probably not.

Ally had 1m shares in TRFC Ltd which were converted into 1m shares in RIFC plc. No additional shares were added to his holdings despite his promises to 'invest for his children' when he was doing Charlie's bidding in getting the fans onside for the IPO.

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Cromjo: its not the fans fault we are in the mess we are in?? why would anyone wish to peddle this crap?
Your worse than a Labour MP telling everyone we are useless and as such can't run our own bloody country. we the fans have not spent the millions we the fans have not "stole" the money, we the fans have invested and invested and invested? what have we been given back,,
1. worthless shares (don't care but it gets annoying after a point when its hundreds pounds each time)
2. a board that's only there for their own financial gain.
3. Promises and more promises all turning out to be lies.
4. No say in OUR club.
5. Blamed for all the problems.
6. Left to pick up the pieces.
Waken up please. I said this the last time and some of us listened hopefully we will all work together an take over the whole thing but not at the cost of giving these robbers our hard earned money.

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We seriously can not be blaming fans for this. The only people not to blame are the fans ans supporters of the club

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Don't blame the UOF for the shambles our club is in! Look no further than the spivs who will only depart when ibrox is sold for housing!

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Ally that is the nail on the head at n8 well in there well put

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29 Aug 2014 21:27:19
At the end of the day boycotts,so called starving them out isn't working they hold all the aces and with every boycott we just put another nail in the coffin yes I agree we have more than filled there pockets they don't care if the club dies ,we the fans have to keep supporting the team until someone buys them out its the only way or as I have said they will put up the business closed signs and sell everything and we will have nothing to support .
r.f

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29 Aug 2014 22:25:26
Ally: What is all this mince about Labour mp, am merely saying the fans who have boycotted are doing the club no favours, it's damaging the club, now I know it isn't the fan's fault but if you can't see the damage of the boycott YOU need to waken up.

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N3 rf what are you talking about nobody gave money to the trust they made pledges it never worked no money spent by anybody making pledges

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N13 cromjo so you are saying to fans that don't agree with situation buy season books in other words give the con men more money to fritter

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30 Aug 2014 10:00:12
Tmwtn thanks for what I'm sure is your informed opinion that no one made pledges but the fact still remains there are 15/20 thousand st not renewed so surely as FANS when our club is in trouble its time to show how we feel about our club and Q up to buy them forget board for a min think of the team/club get your ticket go to every home game & away let your feelings known by chanting SACK THE BOARD its the only way as boycotts just harm club/team .I'm sure if it was King,UoF or sonsofstruth asking this you would do it I'M JUST A HUMBLE FAN LIKE YOURSELVES WHO HAS SUPPORTED THIS TEAM FOR 48 YEARS SO PLEASE HELP SAVE MY /OUR TEAM
r.f

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Where does it end though? do the fans keep giving them money for it to be frittered away then 6 months later we need another crisis loan. the club needs to be run at a break even level but these directors have no interest other than bleeding us dry and will keep doing so if the fans keeping giving them money.

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So its the UOF fault that board members are taking hundreds of thousands in wages and pay offs. Who gave big contracts to diddies like sandaza kyle black shiels smith foster I could go on.
The problem is the board no one else and atleast UOF (who also have there flaws) are trying to do something rather than head in the sand hoping this board will come good.

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This boycott is personic and I said that the first time I heard about it. Constructive protests r ok but we need as much financial flow as possible. I think we WILL get out of the financial mire, don't ask me how, just a feeling I have and this sounds daft and cue the sarcastic replies but I feel this because if and when we do get to the point of no return someone will save us. Yes it IS because we r Rangers and we WILL recover. Almost like it has to get even worse before it gets sorted.

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N16 rf it wouldn't matter who asked me to go to games ime my own person I don't post anywere except here I will only be back once current conmen have left the building most fans were told charliboys plans [the long firm ] some listened some never my stance has been the same since day one

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Rf if I was to buy book and go to games shouting sack the board my protest would count for nothing as I would have bought book or even paid at gate that's defeating the purpose as once they've got the money they don't give a flyin feck as they are showing in this moment of time or they would leave

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29 Aug 2014 10:11:06
We were unable to get any institutional investors to invest in a share offer.
Now we are proposing to ask existing shareholders to invest in a much smaller offer. This cash injection will not meet our funding requirements.
This proposed offer is not underwritten which means that there is no confidence or likelihood that it will be fully taken up.
The board must know that no-one wants to touch them with a bargepole.

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29 Aug 2014 18:04:27
The fact that they are going for the €5m share issue to avoid the 'expense' of a prospectus should, and probably is, ringing alarm bells all over the place. Anyone who got their 715 shares before can now throw another £40+ after it. That will keep Ally employed for another 12 minutes. Me? No thanks.

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29 Aug 2014 09:58:58
To the stock exchange "Overall, the club is looking to raise between £20m and £30m over the next three years and will consider "lines of credit, other forms of short-term finance or. a component of a further equity raise".

The words Beg, Borrow and steal come to mind. This board are going taken on mountains of debt to continue paying their own wages.

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29 Aug 2014 09:42:30
I see Norway's Martin Odegaard became their youngest full international on Wednesday night and that Manchester United are interested in signing him.

He's only 15. Seems if you're good enough, you're old enough applies here. I wonder what Ally would make of this.

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29 Aug 2014 07:06:28
Charlie telfer? Where's he? ANOTHER player that thought he was good enough to play first team football, left because he thought he was good enough to play first team football with rangers, was told to hang fire, at rangers, his time will come, left, went to dundee utd, the same old same old on here, let's attack mcCoist because a player thought he was better than he REALLY is, and thought he could not only get in the rangers team, BUT play at a higher level, in terms of leagues!! Silly boy, wasted in the dundee utd reserves now, NEVER been heard of since, my point is, STOP blaming ally for other people's mistakes, if that boy doesn't make the grade there soon, he'll regret it, like everyone else that leaves rangers when they should've stayed!! Just proves he isn't that great a player after all.

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29 Aug 2014 13:47:54
DITTO!
r.f

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29 Aug 2014 14:24:10
In fairness CT has been on the bench in every DU game so far this term and has come on as a sub in most of them. Hardly wasting in the reserves

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29 Aug 2014 14:55:43
Give the boy a chance! How many games into the season are we and you have written him off already? He obviously wasn't going to get a chance at rangers so he's looked elsewhere to further his career. Hope he proves you wrong, I mean what age is he 18? 19?

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What a load of nonsense he has been coming off the bench almost every game. Something McCoist failed to do when the league was tied up in March in a league two below where he is at now. And another thing, why does McCoist not play Gallagher, McKay and McAusland in the Diddy petrofac cup that no one cares if we win or not. I am not saying play youth regardless but give them some kind of hope. Take your heads out the sand and see what McCoist really is - a useless embarrassment

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Charlie Telfer, we're is he?? Your having a laugh! As much as it sticks in my throat he's at a proper club that's run correctly. Rangers are a million miles behind utd both on and of the park! Any young player with ambition should get out of ibrox. Stop living in the past and face facts we are a shambles from top to bottom!

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Op while your feeble attemp to slaughter charli telfer didn't go down well the season is only 5 weeks old and young telfer has had more first team football in 4weeks than he got at rangers after years of trying ggod luck to the boy maybe he saw the light eh

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29 Aug 2014 20:08:53
Oh he's came off the bench a few times! Oh great, he's made the grade then, lol geez piece please, he came off the bench a few times with us, it's not about the lad himself, it's about the daft folk on here screeming for ally's head for every single thing that happens, he wanted to leave because he thought he could play first team football, and if coming off the bench for the odd 5 minutes here and there's what he's looking for, well good on him! But that's not bettering yourself in any way shape or form, look at aird and young Lewis, now that's how u react about getting first team action, so my heads out the sand, get urs out please!!

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Colin mcdonald I will put a wager on young telfer being a regular at d utd before the season is half way through

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