Rangers Banter Archive December 29 2011
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29 Dec 2011 23:08:25
Couple of players that may be available. What does everyone think?
Steve Sidwell not getting a game at Fulham. Possible replacement for Steve Davis.
Jesus Datolo winger at Espanyol not getting a regular game.
Jeremain Lens not getting a regular game for PSV. Would be dependent on Jelavic leaving though.
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Maybe they are not getting a game because they are not good enough ? Jesus Datolo would be a laugh though - The headline writers would have a field day !
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29 Dec 2011 22:57:02
Can McCoist survive a League defeat to Motherwell ? 3 defeats in a row is a Crisis at Ibrox - can he take the Pressure ?
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No to both questions
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3 defeats in a row is a crisis?
Try 13 points from 27, that is what we've just done + in the last 5 weeks, lost to killie, st mirren, celtic and drawn at home to st johnstone, and we robbed ICT,a good manager shows his worth after a defeat, 13 from 27 says it all.
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29 Dec 2011 22:30:28
first of all I want to say Coisty is a legend and was one of my favorite Gers ever. As manager so far I have been really disappointed that he has not stamped his own style on the team's tactics and strategies. I know he has not had much cash but I am a season ticket holder and am getting frustrated with the team this year. They dont seem to have a strategy to create space and even pass the ball. All we see is the long ball stuff. I want to see triangular footy etc and nice passing moves, how hard is it to make sure the guy on the ball always has two options? It is the WAY to play!
Last night I think he went for it but the conditions and the team let us down. Come on Ally make this team your own before its too late. You are not Walter, by all means take some ideas but put your stamp on the team!
Jason!
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"All we see is the long ball stuff. I want to see triangular footy etc and nice passing moves "- You're supporting the wrong team Jason . Rangers are a Route 1 kick n run Team - always were and always will be .
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Aye your right I remember laudrup gazza albertz v. bronckhorst gattuso numan etc. all playing the long ball kick and run football. its the way we always play
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He went for it in theory last night, but can someone tell me his tactics....if you play jella and laff up top, you need to try and hit them, not pretty i know, but i would have had papac and broadfoot hitting the diagonal right up to them, mulgrew and rogne (two kid on centre backs) had nothing to deal with, or was it meant to go wide for Aluko to pick out the two, who knows, i don't like one up top, but if you aint gonna hit the front two, then you are as well with the extra body in midfield, i honestly dont think coisty has a clue.....love the guy, but that doesnt make me blinkered.
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How come the 'lesser ' teams can come to Ibrox and pass us off the park, look fitter and seem to play to a pattern? We don't look fit (Wallace for example can't last 90 mins), we have no pre- worked set pieces and if we don't score within the first 20 mins we're lost. There is no variation in the team pattern and no obvious ability to change The way we play. It stood out for me in the Malmo game when we didn't even warm up the subs and it was evident change was needed. I don't think we can risk having Ally till the end of the season. Opinions?
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29 Dec 2011 21:48:58
forget billy sharp people, fulham want him. im guessing they can offer a lot more wages than we can, and better opportunities, and more transfer fee to doncaster of course.
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www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2079750/Billy-Sharp-3-5m-target-Fulham-manager-Martin-Jol.html
another one bites the dust.
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29 Dec 2011 21:44:57
Why do people want a 20 year old in Fleck to go? He has bags of ability and was a bit over hyped at 16, if he was given a run in the team he would show his true class and i'm certain.
Give Fleck a game.
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I would like to see him get a chance,can't be any worse than the dross we are watching just now,it's not just last night it's every wk and what happens if motherwell beat us? will the fans turn on ally?
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Agree mate, give the lad a run like edu got and im convinced he will show what he can do.
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Over-hyped ! I think that is an understatement . He was Scotlands answer to Wayne Rooney - Remember . He was just in the Rangers team and was being going to walk into the Full Scotland Team . The trouble is players read this Pish too - and believe it !
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29 Dec 2011 21:09:37
mccoist now has worst record than plg
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So must Neil lemmon than cause tims are only 2 points clear
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29 Dec 2011 19:49:48
i dont care what any1 says Ally McCoist is the right man for the job before naisy got injured half the posters on this site were saying how we were great and Super Ally was the dogs Baws but i didnt think for one min that the rangers faithful would turn so fast on its own McCoist knows that spark is missing and all he can do is try and replace it with a signing in jan another point i want to make is that the team that ranked up a 12pnt lead is the same one that lost it apart from naisy so how can they go from being super heros to the worst team ever mabye if we got behind him instead of on his back? this is just my opinion give SUPER ALLY the chance WATP
BIG CRAIG
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So one man makes a team ? its mccoists tactics
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They were never heroes in my eyes
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We never played well with naisy either, we were just getting away with it. you cant play football like that and expect to win games. McCoist has shown me NOTHING so far as manager. I love super ally but a blind man can see he is struggling as manager. it seems to me that he only knows the defensive negative set up that walter smith played. You cant get a bigger rangers fan than me and no 1 can honestly say they enjoy watching rangers play that style of football, successful or not. we deserve to be exactly where we are out of europe and league cup and 2nd in the league.
johnger WATP
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29 Dec 2011 19:46:31
im surprised nobodys on here talkin about stephen dobbie, could he not replace naisy for the season?
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Are you stephen dobbie?
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Steven Dobbie has been involved in winning two play off finals for Blackpool,and Swansea.So he is clearly a big game player.And can handle the big game pressure.And is a great finisher,so why not?We need somebody to spark life into us.He is robust and full of clever running,just like Naismith is.And has good movement,he does nt have the skill though.Few do we are lucky to have Naismith.Even when he was in C.M.He looked like he was happy there.And had control of a game.Ally
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29 Dec 2011 19:38:21
I'm just going to give a shout out for The BlueOrder and Union Bears for the time and effort they spent on the display they put on last night. Great work lads and girls. Cheers
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29 Dec 2011 19:34:06
I'm really disappointed that we lost last night but still think we're good enough to win it. A few good signings will sort things out. I think wr should cash in on Davis and Jelavic and spend money on 5/6 decent signings. Two coming in will be Dorrans and Goodwillie on loan - watch this space
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I it was smashing you backed yer team well with your singing well done
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Would you give ally your money to spend? a wouldn't trust him with any of mine. ortiz mckay healy weir kerkar bedoya, all his signings and none of them have played. we could have got bedoya for FREE in january and don't get me started on whittaker and his ridiculous contract. Too many mistakes
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29 Dec 2011 19:27:22
To all the un-loyal supporters out there please stop and think before you start typing
We are on a bad run lately but consider;
Walters record last year
Played 21 Points 50
against the unwashed in SPL won 1 lost 1
Ally,s record for the same period
Played 21 Points 48
Against the unwashed in the SPL won 1 lost 1
Were you all shouting for Walters head at this time last year?
It is the easiest thing in the world to be a critic ally is a true blue legend and considering his record v wattie to date he deserves the chance to pull us out of this bad run
Keep the faith, WATP
JG
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Just because i'm not happy at the way rangers are playing doesn't make me an un-loyal fan. I dont care about your stats you and I both know how bad rangers are and have been under walter as well. we may have been champions but the way we play is a joke. rangers cant afford to waste the money ally has in the transfer market and he is driving fans out with the product on the park
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29 Dec 2011 19:19:50
Bears for all your insults I am going to talk about Big Tax Case again.
Leading up to Old Firm game Whyte's team of advisors and pet journalists put out positive vibes on a settlement being reached of about £5 - £6 m
sorry bears if other reports more credidle ones are to be believed HMRC turned down an offer of £10m some months ago, so why would they now settle for half that?
One other wee problem Whyte cannot negotiate with HMRC it must be Murray Holdings who do this.
Also "spindoctors" said Whyte was talking to London HMRC, wrong again.
Finally, for now, HMRC chiefs in London have been taken to task about doing deals with companies, so any chance of a deal is now dead. OK Bears prove above is wrong, I look forward to your replies.
Timalloy
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And how exactly do you know all of this Timalloy? Do you have any "credible" sources you can show me? Not saying I can prove you wrong but I reckon you made most of that up in your wee obsessed head.
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Are u not at panto tonight jimmy?
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Oh right,thats grand.*yawn* thanks for that timothy.
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RAAB, the rangerstaxcase printed a copy of one of the legal documents when Whyte took over (they seem to get access to documents, do not know how) anyway this document clearly stated that Only Murray Holdings can negotiatate.
Go on and have a read it makes interesting reading, also read replies posted by sceptical readers like yourself then make your own mind up. Timalloy
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Can you prove above is right? Why would HMRC settle for half money? did rangers offer £10mil? was it rejected by HMRC? Are other reports more "credible"? whyte owns rangers and it is rangers tax case so I think whyte will be having his say in negotiations as well as murry holdings. why is there negotiations if any chance of a deal is now dead?
don't kid on you know what your talking about Timalloy
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Yet more turkish delight fae the slightly dhims...makes me laugh though..ha ha ha..4 in a row ..here we go..
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Ah yes the rangerstaxcase. Now is that not a website created by Celtic fans like yourself in an effort to drag our club through the dirt? And yes how do they get access to this legal documents when the media cant seem to? I am supposed to use this as a credible source? It may well be true about Murray, it makes sense, but anyone claiming that website is a credible source is clearly a delusional moron!
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Are you lot seriously still reading the rangerstaxcase. If I set up a site saying we are signing Messi would you people that.
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The reason us Celts are taken satisfaction in your financial meltown is the £5 £10 boast by Murray, and you bears enjoyed it when you had us by the financial short and curlies!!
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29 Dec 2011 19:09:21
After due deliberation,i came to the conclusion about last nights game,we lost by being mediocre,beaten by a slightly less mediocre team,but not humbled like the dhims at Ibrox when they got pumped 4 2,so enjoy your 5 minutes of glory,trust me,it will be short lived.Rangers,usually end the season as Champions.
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Do they? CELTIC won more leagues in 60s 70s 80s naughties, only decate in my life uv won more leagues is 90s where u had SIGNIFICANTLY more money( which you couldnt afford to spend) !
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29 Dec 2011 18:52:00
Timalloy and lenny are celtics answer to the krankies no one finds them funny but themselves
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That come back was like your team last night
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Lenny
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Wow talking of bad come backs Lenny.
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Glasgow Rangers are on a terrible run, we're playing pish and you've won 9 on the trot. Ye beat us 1-0 and we had the ball in the net at 0-0. Just keep jumping on the bandwagen mate, it'll make it sweep when we knock ye right back aff it.
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29 Dec 2011 18:32:04
Had a look at Jan fixtures, and the manager of the month is ally mccoist.
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29 Dec 2011 18:27:54
none of the players you have mentioned will improve rangers much. there is zero quality in the team and we need bodies in asap.
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29 Dec 2011 18:24:28
The vicTims are having their little moment , can you imagine the outcry if they put a ball over the line and never got the decision,Paul McBride, letters , integrity questioned, foaming at the mouth .We simply accept a bad decision and move on , we also know we are having a shocking run at the moment but we take comfort from the fact our history shows that we go the full distance , so to all the soap dodgers out there beware .
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Spot on. We love you Rangers, win lose or draw. We need to try and make some decent signings in January, 4 in a row here we go!
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Honestly soap dodgers ? Grow up.
Everyone knows its a goal aye, but no one saw it. You win some & lose some. On another day it would have been a goal,just like on another day 3 red cards would have been pulled out & Healy would have got the jail.
Going between the lines over the last 2 games if rangers are losing then they get nasty with the tackles.
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Lenny krankie u talk utter garbage, we were winning when mcculloch get sent off against st mirren plus if the stokes tackle last season wasn't a sending off then nor was the healy tackle.
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Jail? Eh naw....remember stokes? Lafferty?
It was a reckless strikers challenge.., you want to see bad tackles then come to toryglen on a Sunday, and make sure you have the polis on speed dial.
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29 Dec 2011 18:23:16
after laughing at mowbray and lennon and hoping they stayed celtic managers,do rangers fans want super to stay?remember supers record is nearly on par with mowbrays and worse than lennons,do you still trust in ally?if ally wasnt a legned would more fans be calling for his head?PLG,S record was slightly worse than supers,whats the deal?thank u please.
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I trust ally i think he needs his own team of players tho and he has already pin pointed that i think he will come good i thought that of PLG just never get the chance as a old firm manager tho! but we need to give ally that chance and get behind him instead of on top of him WATP
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Why should he be sacked? Nothing is won in December, the race for the title is very much on. I'll tell you at the end of the season, it's not fair to sack someone this early.
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Ally needs his own team of players, your having a laugh. what about the his signings he has already made, very poor if you ask me
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29 Dec 2011 18:09:18
Outs and ins that would win us the league!
Outs: Weir, Kerkar, Broadfoot, Ortiz Whittaker, Edu, Mculloch, Edu, Mckay, Bedoya, Lafferty, Healy and Jela if we got £8m+.
Ins: Goodwillie (Loan and yes he can play if it's a loan deal), O'Connor, Boyd, Riordan, Dorrans (Jela deal), Cuellar, Murray Davidson, Scott Allan, Tom Hately.
People might spout pish about this but look at the players we could let go and the wages/fees this could bring in. If we brought in these players this would bring in a lot of quality and give us a young hungry team.
Add this to utilising Hutton, Little, Fleck, Bendicksen, Mcmillan, Cole, Perry, Hemmings and Ness when fit then i think we could genuinely have a great team for years to come.
Look at the squad and options this would give us
Alexander
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Hately Goian Perry Papac
Mcmillan Cuellar Bocanegra Wallace
Little Davidson Allan
Riordan Ness Hutton Aluko
Bendicksen Davis Dorrans Wylde
Fleck Hemmings
O'Connor Boyd
Goodwillie
Expecting a lot of "footy manager" ribbing here but i'm just putting the point across that we could still strengthen and have a cracking squad purely from getting rid of the guff we have just now.
Personally i dont think i've said anything that is beyond the realms of reality.
Any constructive thoughts?
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But you are forgetting about the £10 million "Black Hole" in this years accounts that Craig Whyte revealed . That hole has to be filled by the January Sales - all that will be brought in is low paid Loans and Frees .
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Are you proposing building a teamwho's ambition is to challange for the later stages of the League Cup ? If so you have succeded
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Forgot to mention I'd get Novo back as well. Heard someone saying something about a swap for Ortiz which would be a great deal!
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Hately, Riordan and especially Davidson are pish. Seen them play loads of times and they are rotten. No better than the guff we have and Allan has played 2 first team games in his whole career. How is that goiing to improve us?
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P.S none of the young players you have mentioned have done anything to show they are worthy of a place in the team apart from Ness and he's out long term. Little and Fleck are rotten. McMillan is pushing 24 and has played 1 game, Cole must have been abducted because nobody has seen him for a year. Hemmings is a donkey, worst 1st touch i've ever seen. Only Hutton and Perry and Bendicksen have shown any promise and Ally won't play them anyway.
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All of the above would be better except Wilde he's rank
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Your not being truthful to yourself, this is never going happen
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Some good points but that would leave us quite short in the centre mid area, Ness is out more often than not, Little hardly counts, and some of the others a bit light weight for the middle.
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Yeah thats champions league special. i agree with the players you want to get rid of but i would add some more to the exit list.
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Just to point out I didn't say this will happen but my point is that it is possible with the right weeling and dealing to make us a lot better than we are. You said about being short in midfield but we're already awful so with a pairing of Davis and Dorrans with the rest i mentioned as backup it's much better than what we have. Also with Novo on the wing and Naisy to come back i think it'd be a cracking midfield.
Saying about money and that but i've put below approx wages and transfer fees and we'd still have money left and a lower wage bill.
Outs: Weir 10k+Release, Kerkar 2k+Release, Broadfoot5k+300k fee, Ortiz 5k+Novo swap Whittaker 2.5m + 20k, Edu £2m 10k, Mculloch Release 10k, Mckay 5k+300k, Bedoya 5k+300k, Lafferty15k+1.5m, Healy 5k+Release and Jela 15k +£4m+Dorrans
Ins: Goodwillie (Loan, pay 10k of his wages), O'Connor 300k, 5k a week, Boyd free, 10k, Riordan free, 3k, Dorrans (Jela deal, 15k), Cuellar £1m, 10k, Murray Davidson 400k, 5k. Scott Allan 400k, 5k Tom Hately, 300k, 3k. Novo (swap with Ortiz) 10k
I know this is a lot of imaginary info but I'm just showing what could be possible if we cleared out and brought in some fresh blood.
If you add up the above basically by the outs we would bring in £10.9m and free up 107k a week in wages.
The ins i've mentioned would cost £2.4m and cost 76k a week.
I know it's my guesses but they're close estimates and would save us 31k a week in wages and would leave us with £8.5m for the club which we obv need.
Would be good business!
I await a ribbing. Rossco Cyprus Bear
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29 Dec 2011 17:48:06
Do u think mo edu could take some of thst footballultra? Improves performance.
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29 Dec 2011 17:46:42
We were out played in most of the game last night. We are going through a bad patch but every team that is expected to win every week goes through two every season. Touch wood that us had our two. The 1st was at the beginning of the season and now this one. Rangers always seem to go through a bad patch at this time of year. Our luck will change. Rangers always get stronger the 2nd half of the season don't they? Celtic will go through a bad patch aswell they are no doubt about it. So keep with the team and manager this is the time they need us more than ever.
Ps wee Nacho Novo was on top form last night at the game. He is a cracking wee chanter lol.
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Totally agree wae you m8 av posted a few times about the rangers fans calling for allys head this is the time to rally round and be a unit things will pick up and theres still a long way to go WATP
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29 Dec 2011 17:46:21
can anybody see the logic in paying cash to get bedoya in early only for ally not to play him?why sign ortiz and not play him?why sign mc kay and not play him?why sign kerkar and not play him?why keep healy,hardly give him any game time then throw him on last nite?a total shambles from top to botttom.
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You're right ! It's almost as if McCoist doesn't know what he is doing . EH ?
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Spot on mate whats gan on at ibrox whos running the show why buy players and not play then it dont make sence if the players he bought not good enough to get a game why the feck did ally buy them
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Cudn't agree more. Those questions tell u all u need to know about ally. Completely out of his depth
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Bedoya is injured, mackay is still trying to adjust with fitness ect kerkar is on low wage and healy just back from injury ortiz is just not good enough. but even with out these reasons we still need squd players
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Why play people who're pish just cause you spent money for them? Fair enough he signed them but he obviously thought they wouldve benefitted the team, but they dont and rightly doesnt play them.
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29 Dec 2011 17:28:17
Ally's saying no need to panic what team is he watching. Im a season ticket holder and keep thinking that we can't get worse and we are going to start a wining run but am starting to wonder if we will with the current team
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29 Dec 2011 17:18:01
I see now that Celtic are winning, Tim "nice but dim" alloy has decided to actually talk about football. Strange he never wanted to talk about it during his teams bad patch!
I know how he likes his little tunes so here's one just for him.
To the tune of "You only sing when your winning"
"You only sing when your winning,
you only sing when your wiiiinnnninng"
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Don't reply to the fool, he will soon go away
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Here is a tune for poster above and all bears "Always look on the bright side of life na na na"
Here are some songs Sally was singing
Yesterday all my troubles seemed so far away.
Help I NEED SOMEBODIES
The Long and winding Road
LOL Timalloy (chief Lyricist)
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29 Dec 2011 16:56:10
Looks like Adam Matthews is the 7th Celtic player to get a 10 million quote
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In 5 years time Matthews will be worth more than yer tax debt!!
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Proof in that please ?
Your just raging that our teams has youths pulling through unlike rangers & they're 'superstars' like Davy weir, clubfoot,fleck etc
Away & dry your eyes
Skint,team of OAP,lost a 15 point lead losing a tax case & shortly losing the faith in ally
Mind the gap
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And the point of the post is?
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My point is according to u lot there is 7 10million pound players in your team, U deluded fools
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Sorry but was bernard mathews not signed on a free contract from cardiff? and what about ness,hutton,wylde,perry, plus how many celtic youth products have been sold for big money?
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Thats what happens with them one good OF performance means the best in the world. Remember Kayal last January, suddenly worth 10million.
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Remember a couple months ago jellyfish was worth 10 million haha
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29 Dec 2011 16:45:17
let the tims have there day enjoy the bragging rights you.s been quiet 4 6 months deserting in your thousands at home gates counting your season tickets sales, the camera,s never showed the top tiers half empty ever home games ys mugs as i said enjoy look what happened the last 3 years.
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Pot and kettle, ibrokes is often half empty! Is that your point?
Mind the gap, we welcome the chase!
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And ibrox is bursting at the seams every other week.
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Ibrox is getting a big crowd every other week actually and we still have the biggest away support
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Ibrokes may be getting 'big crowds', but then it only holds 51,082. Paradise holds nine thousand more! Back to the crayons son!
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29 Dec 2011 16:31:05
I hate to say it but Ally should go. He is a true legend but is in danger of being a disaster. I named my son after this guy, so for me to say this, means it is a shambles. He has had little money to spend, but his signings have been very poor indeed. It now appears that jela and Davis will be on their way despite him saying last night that he would not wish to lose jelavic. Therefore he is not being backed by whyte, so he has no chance.
It has to be remembered that he inherited ally, and he could not possibly get rid of a legend without giving him a chance, he had to keep the fans on side. What little money he will have has to be spent wisely and I am not convinced that he can do that. He keeps stating that we need a forward and that is clear, but by far the biggest need is a decent midfielder. It is no coincidence that since nays got crocked we have been an absolute shambles. We have taken ten points from the last seven games and that is le guen form. Sorry Ally the time has come, walk before you pushed.
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I almsot burst out laughing at this; "I hate to say it but Ally should go. He is a true legend but is in danger of being a disaster. I named my son after this guy, so for me to say this, means it is a shambles." You are a total shambles mate!
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Yet another fan calling for Allys head come on m8 if your a true fan you should be backing him up
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29 Dec 2011 15:34:07
Next 3 League games - Motherwell (3rd) , St Johnstone (4th) and Aberdeen (always difficult) . How many points will Rangers get ? If not the full 9 - how many to get McCoist the sack ?
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Away you go you hypocrite. It wasn't that long ago you were shouting for fat lemmons head. Now you come on her shouting for our managers head away you go. You concentrate on yer own team heed the baw.
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I would say that he needs to take +15 but I will settle for -2
What do I win?
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I predict 5 points ( 2 draws I win ) McCoist out by February ,
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29 Dec 2011 15:14:58
Never mind the whole 'the ball crossed the line so if the goal stood we would have won' crap. Yes, it was a goal, but that was almost impossible for Collum or his assistants to see in real time. I do feel the ref had a poor game though, and gave Celtic a lot of nothing fouls. But that is an observation rather than an excuse, because we have benefited from the same thing in the past.
Bottom line, Celtic deserved to win. We went to their place and failed to create a single clear cut chance with 2 forwards, so that proves the theory about 'it's all about the formation' as being a non starter.
Here is where our problems are...
We have zero creativity.
We have zero leadership.
We have zero determination.
We have a lack of passion.
We don't look or play like a team any more.
We give the ball away far too easily through horrendous long balls.
We have (no disrespect intended) St Mirren level players playing in a blue jersey.
We have a manager who seems to lack imagination when things go wrong (no plan B or C).
Our so called big players (Davis, Jelavic etc) are non exsistent and stale. I believe both are away in January.
On top of all this, we have players who have had umpteen chances to prove themselves (Lafferty, Edu, Broadfoot) yet after years, majority remain unconvinced. This has to tell us that they are not, and never will be good enough.
Celtic are better, not much, but they are a better team than us and have the ability to get stronger in January. While we will only get weaker while our case with HMRC remains unsettled.
Not wanting to be negative, and I will continue to support my team, but I am a realist and believe that everything I have said is fact.
Steven.
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It was a pleasure to read the above post. Great insite and a Ranger fan living in reality.
What do you think about trying to get ROBBIE FLOWER in January, maybe a loan deal or something?
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Cheers mate. I was told by a fellow bear the other day on here that I know "nothing about football" due to being only 18. Think that theory is a bit off, my points here are all fact and Gers fans who disagree are delusional.
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As for Fowler, I don't see why not really. He is a Rangers man, and short term deals for experienced players have worked for better teams than us in the past (Larsson to Man Utd, Beckham to Milan etc).
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Yeah but I think if you put points against Larsson and Beckham then I would say that on his day (10 years ago) Flower was probably about 15 points ahead but now I would reckon he is 2 points behind and counting.
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Spot on mate. linesman had no chance to call that a goal. celtic were better simple as. i hope we do some business in jan as without wee naisy we are terrible. at least a lively, creative midfielder and a striker to replace jelavic, i say this because for the past few weeks he's looked like a guy who doesn't want to be here. big changes needed or else celtic will stroll to the title.
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29 Dec 2011 15:00:31
Ally MUST stay... You could tell last night that every player was really trying their best for him, plus he is such a legend, even if he doesn't win and we came third or fourth I would still want him as my manager as he is just such a lovely guy and a great ger!
I hope we get a few fresh meat in the door, we haven't been linked to Robbie Flower for awhile so maybe go for him. He is a proven striker and would do the job for the teddies bears.
RANGERS READY.
We Are the Simply the Best People
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Actually Robbie Flower would be a shout! Would cost much and would walk into our team!
I would sell Steven Naismith as soon as he is fit for 1mil and Jela for 3.7mil and then bring Boyd and Novo back! Please Ally stay...
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What a lot of crap if he finishes fourth in the SPL you would still back him! Time to take your medication!
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Sure would Dazzabhoy - Mean he is such a swell guy and a Rangers legEND!
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What about Alan Smith , Nacho Novo , Cuellar ? - all standing in the wings , waiting on the call .
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Rangers...ready
transfer market...steady
jelavic...GOOO
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Dazza u cannae even tell wen ur own fans are posting wind up posts ya donkey !
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HA - I forgot about Alan Smith. What other coconuts have the mighty grrrs tried to get OVER and OVER (we will follw you) again?
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Let bring back rino, geo and the de boers!!
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Fowler is pish
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29 Dec 2011 14:51:59
Poor performance last night from the Gers,truth be told better team won,but its only 3 points,lets see how they cope being hounded,we will be back,Rangers will prevail,because we are champions,see how it ends in May.
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We welcome the chase.......mind the gap!
Hail hail
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Even if Rangers go into administration and are deducted 10 points - they will still win the League - Right ?
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29 Dec 2011 14:48:37
Le Guen P26 W15 L6 D5
McCoist. P26 W15 L6 D5
Spooky eh, of course ally is a legend
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Shoorly no ? Ally worse than PLG ! Jings , crivvens and Help ma Boab !
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..... with an alomost identical league record as lennon has this season... i take it u think both should be sacked ...... mhuppet
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Look at the other stats...... P.L.G's team was 19 points behind at that time and stepped down, remember........?
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29 Dec 2011 14:24:29
Let the wind blow High,
Let the wind blow Low
Sally where's your Losers?
LOl Timalloy
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U must be only 1 laughing at that, what a lot of old tosh
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Is there a joke in there? Ur as funny as toothache
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Only joke is rangers.
15 point lead 6-8 weeks later go -2 ?
in ally we trust
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29 Dec 2011 14:15:14
Ok bears, you say I never talk football well lets have a discussion about last night's game.
The wind spoiled game and brought us down to your level, but second half any football was played by Celtic. Rangers could have played all night and not scored, only way was hoping your "tame" referee would gift you a penalty. Jelavic and Laughterty were anonymous. Was Davis playing ha ha?
Wanyama and Kayal bossed midfield again and young Forest was running past Broadfoot for fun.
Again your "tame" referee let Healy away with assault on young Forrest (only way you could hope to stop him was injure him)
Your team lack everything and will only get worse in 2012. hail hail Timalloy
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Rangers could hve played all night and not scored you say lol Think you'll find we did score ya muppet.
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What are u talking about u muppet? We scored in the 6th minute, this is the last time I reply to ur stupid talk
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Eh, i've just checked the Dailly Record, The Times, the internet and the score was 1-0......so when did rankers score?
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ER pals, history books will record score as Celtic 1 Rangers 0, so you never scored LOL Timalloy
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29 Dec 2011 14:09:06
so many sensible rangers fans on here.forget the "goal" incident no one in real time could spot that hence the lack of appeal from gers players.the big question here is why ally thought none of his signings were up to even making the bench? substitutions made no sense,plan b of shoving bartley up front was a joke and moving lafferty to try and bully mathews was worse.youth is the future in scotland now.lennon had the bottle to play rogne,mathews and wanyama in key positions.mr whyte now must be seen and heard.key questions for me would be...1:is admin a real possibility..2:what percentage of any transfer dealings will ally get..3:do we need to sell players to fill the 10m black hole. it wasnt losing mr whyte but the manner of defeat that hurts. blue.
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He took Aluko off,instead of playing him through the middle.Still reckon the league will go right down to the wire.Still a lot of football to be played,from now un till the end of the season.And who ever goes and comes in,will determine were the league goes.For both of the teams I reckon.I felt Rangers really mist young Jamie Ness last night.He at least has the creativity.When I saw Edu come on.I was not convinced we were going to score.Edu is a good holding midfielder though.And does a lot of un scene un glamourous work.Ally
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29 Dec 2011 14:02:17
rangers need to fork out some money in january and get two creative midfeilders cm&winger and a new target man if jelavic leaves or even if he does stay a partner for him , get some money out rangers the creativity and attacking flare is terribble !
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Is Aluko giving you's another sub to buy players? His credit card must be maxed out!
Mind the gap! We welcome the chase!
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Rumour i the reason parkhead was that aluko was subbed was because they could pay him his match bonus ?
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Cant wait for the january window lets just hope half o them fall out of it do they know how it feels when they wasted my summer hols and now our xmas come on lets get back to basics and youth b4 its too late
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29 Dec 2011 13:56:44
Last night rangers on there worst run in a long time vs celtic on there best form and run in a long time! The outcome: the worst old firm game in living memory, Which rangers took the lead in after 6mins through l.wallace I have no doubt had the officals seen it we would of won the game, We had a make shift defence and the goal apart, they never troubled us at all, there is absoultely no panic here as celtic are rotten the won't keep up this scrapping results for long! no fear 4iar.*ksd*
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My worry is celtic improving we need to freshen things up but ally seems to have no trust in squad players.no flair,creativity or guille just now.mr whytes reaction will be season shaping i think
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There will be no reaction, how many times we have a 10 million black hole in the accounts
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29 Dec 2011 13:26:11
Paul-le-guen: P26 W15 D5 L6.
Ally McCoist: P26 W14 D6 L6.
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Just shows u how bad Celtic have been aswell, PLG had better players when he was in charge
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Is it a terrible record for McCoist? Why are we only 2 points behind worlds gretest at everything team? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
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29 Dec 2011 13:22:39
dont ever want to see broadfoot in a rangers again.he plays rangers dont win
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He had a good game last night.
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Broadfoot was the bestrangers player last night
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A good game, think you will notice that it was he who ledley out jumped for the goal, the same as the first game of the season against Hearts he failed to mark his man. Remmebr the St Mirren game at Ibrox posted missing their as well.
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Have to agree there, when i see someone like broadfoot playing pro football it makes me regret not pursuing football for a living. I was no messi as a kid but could do alot of the things broadfoot cant do easily, his positional sense is awful, his heading is awful, his first touch is awful, his passing is always behind the player intended thus slowing the play, and to be perfectly honest every throw in he takes is a foul throw. How he gets away with that i will never know apart from 1 euro game where the ref blew for foul throw twice with him. Iv have gave him the chances and support he deserves but the guy is a dud. An embarasment to football that makes me question why i didnt make it pro when someone like him can. Last night was the icing on the cake with him i too dont want to see him picked again. I felt really sorry for aluko, it must be hard to pass the ball to someone knowing that the guy your giving it to is going to waste it,slow it down, go back to cb or keeper. Frustrating is the only word i can think of to describe him. The way i see it he is in the team cos he can defend and on that games evidence he really cant to that either.
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29 Dec 2011 13:20:44
Did I miss something last night? Did we get a total hammering of the greatest ever club side to boot pigs bladders? A sloppy goal to lose.......................shhhh don t tell them, they ain t that good. Hardly burying teams lately, it won t go on forever. Its a fickle old game.
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Whos sitting top of the league mate?whos supporters were partying last night?whos supporters wont be reading the sports pages today?simples.1.0. or 5.0. its the points that were important,and we got them all.
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Partying? Nothing was win last night
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Partying nothing was win last night ?
no going to play the spelling polis but there was something one...an old firm game, 15 to 1. then go top by 2
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29 Dec 2011 13:20:30
still think McCoist is the man for the job? said it from the start of the season hes not experienced enough. need a experienced manager and McCoist back to assistant! if we sell Jelavic should look to signing Rhodes or Jonny Russel from utd!
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Rhodes no chance russel maybe
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What has experience got to do with it? If no-one gives you a chance, how do you gain experience? Dalglish and Souness to name 2 were thrown in at deep end, McCoist has been an assistant manager at international level.
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29 Dec 2011 13:00:02
Went on the runners up page there, someone said Scott broon had a great game, was he watching the same game as me I thought he was average at best
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Forster watched most of it too
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Average better than all of your lot
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In the words of yogi,we,re better than the average bears,lol.
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Lost count the amount of times he wrapped ring round your midfield ! wasnt the best player on the park but just ripped it out of rangers
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Haha - you post just got smashed :)
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29 Dec 2011 12:59:49
I have read all the comments from last nights game about selling Davis and jela etc etc. i was in celtic hospitality last night because of work and had to sit in the manky end!! The atmosphere was excellent and i can honestly say that if we got Ibrox bouncing like that we would be better off!! Celtic fans are excellent when they are winning but shocking when they are not! The abuse they were giving their players at HT was unreal and thats why when celtic hit there bad spell and Rangers hit form their bottle will crash!! I just wonder if all these so called Rangers fans will be back at Ibrox celebrating 4 IAR and singing JJEEELLLAAAVVVIICCC or sitting on there computer slating our boys in Blue! Get a fecken grip and support your team NO MATTER WHAT!!!! WATP rangers till i die!
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Stop spouting mince, do u think thst was worth 42 pound last night?
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Atmosphere wasnt there when 20k fans weren t turning up for home games though. Glory hunters, the lot of them.
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Cant be that big a Rangers fan if you can sit in with the celtic fans. {Ed001's Note - or it could just be that he is not that pathetic that he can't manage to watch a game of football without being bigoted? You do realise it is a game right?}
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Blind loyalty is one thing but can you not see that since we lost nays, the whole thing has collapsed, we were dross last night. Get the blue glasses and smell the coffee
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So if Rangers scored and the fan jumped up to celebrate. Don't you think that would cause bother.
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Exactly Edd i was a guest and can assure you it was not easy to sit there while the huddle was going on!! I agree it was not worth the money as it was a very poor game but my main point here lads is get behind our team as i believe we will be the ones celebrating at the end of the season! Nothing was won last night except 3 points and i for one did not see any presentation!!
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In a perfect world ED we could all sit beside our friends in the away end from time to time, but I know I would'nt pay £42 to sit in the celtic end and listen to half their fans spouting their hatered, just as a celtic fan would'nt fancy sitting in the Rangers end. But who knows mabe one day. {Ed001's Note - but I would take tickets wherever I could get them, rather than sit at home, if I had the choice.}
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29 Dec 2011 12:44:48
a couple of strikers are def needed no doubt but peronally i think the midfield needs cleared out davis usaully keeps us ticking but has been poor all season if we had better quialty options i think he would b dropped for a couple of games to rest and as a wake up call, two good young mids ness and hhutton always injured and the two we signed mckay and bedoya never seen questiions got to be asked somewhere!! if midfeild is poor we`ll never play well never hold onto ball and never create chances for any striker no matter who they are.
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Strikers are not getting supply from midfield need leaders with dig on park and creativity there is no one that can change the game when things are going against us midfielder definately needed to take wait off of davis but requires money which i doubt we have unless jelavic goes which causes another problem we were losing midfield battle last night mcullough has now past sell by date .and mcoist buys have been anonymous in contribution
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29 Dec 2011 12:40:20
never been a great fan of garry o`conners personal life but looks like hes turned himself round and looks like the ideal type of player we need up front rite now big strong decent pace and can finish wouldnt cost much and has also had good experince at bham and moscow personal troubles aside he always done the business on the park. what does everyone else think?
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Again am lmao at thr desperation for any free run of the mill players that are available! It says it all when your two best players last night were aberdeen and hearts rejects!
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Was Charlie mulgrew not a aberdeen reject?
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Who was the Hearts reject? Was that the one we paid over a £mill for? Got it, Hearts wanted shot of him cos he was poor. Sigh.
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Aye mulgrew was but were not scraping about desperate to sign anyone whos free or cheap so your defense there is lame just like your team lmao
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Lol at over £mill
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Mulgrew left under freedom of contract aberdeen offerd him a new deal but he wanted to play else where same with aluko hardly rejects
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And no one said mulgrew was our best player last night,though he did stroll through the game.
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He certainly floated through the air in one of the worst dives since larrson used to get shot by the invisible snipers in the stands.
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His diving skills are not quite up there with naismith or lafferty yet
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29 Dec 2011 12:31:08
Ortiz or edu, who is worse?
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Edu is worse as he gets more games to ptove it
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Edu is garbage, did anyone feel like turning the tv over when he came on? I gave up hope when he came on
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Ortiz? Is this the same spanish wing king the media were creaming there pants over when he signed? Surely that wasnt spin was it? You lot buy it everytime lol
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Ortiz is a midfielder!
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A midfielder? Why does mcoist play him on the wing then? Lol
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Notice we had more of the ball when Edu came on, Celtic had fewer chances, he is better than McCulloch and Ortiz.
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29 Dec 2011 12:02:47
Big thank you to Sally for appealing mccullochs ban,enabling him to play last night.what a waste of a jersey.
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Mcculloch was rubbish dont no why he appealed
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Eh cos he is a big boy and we needed someone in there to combat with Wanyama, he has played many OF games afore so he knows what to expect and with his experience can also plug holes .... in the conditions last night it meant for a phyical game ..... thats y he was selected .... i aint saying he should have been .. aint saying he shouldnt have been picked but thats y ..... quite simple really.
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Germinator, you talk far too much sense for this site! Your points are about football whereas most people just want to complain and slag each other off....on both sides! It seems some people only want to be supporters when their team are winning!
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He only played so he could do Kayal!!
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29 Dec 2011 11:47:38
would you give mccoist momey too send the players he's sighed say it all.
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The players he has signed only suggest the budget he is working with ........ get $hite transfer budget then prepare for $hit players ....... simple, cant soley blame mccoist for last nights defeat, if he had a decent budget and if injuries or suspensions hadnt been against us i reckon the result wouldnt have been the same .......
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Dont you need money to have a decent budget lol?
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29 Dec 2011 11:45:58
ally start playing players in their right posions,if a guy is a centre back play him there not centre mid ?
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29 Dec 2011 11:45:35
Anyone heard the rumour Glasgow city council have offered kerkar, broadfoot, edu and healy a way out of ibrox by offering them binman jobs.
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Please let it be true
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29 Dec 2011 11:38:22
Guess he won't be extending it then? Cause that group of players won't be winning the league
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29 Dec 2011 11:32:08
it says alot when healys tackle gets the biggest cheer of the night
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29 Dec 2011 11:28:39
Jelavic to stay until the end of season, EPL clubs wanting more time to see if he's worth £10M, Mccoist in talks with Boyds reps about a short trem contract with the view of extending it should we win the league.
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Your whole clubs not worth £10m
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29 Dec 2011 11:16:25
Well Ally, totally wrong team selection and tactics last night. We are a team with No Imagination, No Fight and No Leadership. I hope the players hold their heads in shame this morning but i doubt it. Jelavic can go in January and so can half this team.
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Wullie, Super Ally is trying to make pea and ham soup fae a chicken right now, something is missing and he needs time to find and get it right again. I don't think getting rid of half the team is the answer............. Ye could end up with a bigger plate full of mince !! Keep believing Bears
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The only manager that buys players to sit on the bench, if they are no use then why buy them, surely he did not buy then just to make the numbers up
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The something that is missing is called Steven Naismith without him we have been p++s.colinlarneger
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29 Dec 2011 11:08:58
Does anyone really think Kyle bartley is arsenal and england class? I think he's average at best
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Argeed. so overrated.
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Kyle bartley will never play for england or as a regular cb for arsenal hell end up in the championship.
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Why write of a young guy?
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What wrong did Kyle Bartley do last night not a thing in my eyes.Young man through in at the deep end i think its a few of our more senior players that really need to take a good look at them selfs.
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29 Dec 2011 11:02:41
I for one are glad we got beat last night it shows whyte he has to show us the colour of money.......
Broadfoot played not too bad, aluko looked dangerous so why did ally take him off.
Bocanegra should be captian he is our leader.
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He's not got any money, how many times do people need telling on here, we have a 10 million black hole in the accounts and a possible 49 million tax bill, where have u been for the last 6 months?
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Craig whyte is not and never will be a billionaire.
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29 Dec 2011 10:57:52
On Present form why would anyone pay big Money for Davis or Jelevic, both shocking last night and for the last 2 months. I have been told QPR bid for Jelevic is nowhere near the figures being talked about.
If bids come in i would sell and try to freshen things up, another 3 or 4 weeks of this dross and the league is gone!
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29 Dec 2011 10:56:03
Does anyone remember Harry Redknapp saying he offered Rangers Jake Livermore on loan this season and they declined, wish we'd taken him, certainly better than what we've got. I'd like to see us bring in; Templton, Livermore, Davidson, Boyd, another striker, swap Ortiz for Novo, give someone a tenner to take Bedoya, bye to Weir and Healy, obviously Jela will need to go to fund these moves, oh yea the get rid of McCulloch
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29 Dec 2011 10:43:27
Next weeks line up should read.
What have we got to lose, at least they would be keen.
McGregor
McMillan / Perry
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Goian
Papac / Wallace
Aluko
McKay
Ness / Hutton
Bendiksen
Jelavic
Lafferty / Hemmings
Subs (from)
McMillan / Perry
Papac / Wallace
Ness / Hutton
Lafferty / Hemmings
Fleck
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Alexander
Wylde
Not Required
McCulloch
Kerkar
Edu
Broadfoot
Davis
Whittaker
Weir
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You are part of the reason that there is no belief, no confidence and no inspiration in the team right now.We are not playing well and everyone can see that a lack of confidence is running through the team. We need the team to inspire us, as fans, and they need fans to inspire them when it's not going well ! Closing ranks on the team and deciding that this player and that player is not good enough, should be dropped, sold..... what does that solve ? We need to get behind the team and start to create an atmosphere of belief inside Ibrox and not put any more pressure on the team by deriding and moaning every stray pass and missed chance. NO, we're not playing well, but it will come again, of that I have no doubt. WE NEED TO SUPPORT THE TEAM ! At the end of the day, all we suffer today is bragging from the runners up, and the pain of losing an o/f game, lets get over it and " ready " for M/Well. The whole of the spl is of poor quality, some of the play last night made you forget that we were watching the two TOP teams in Scotland last night, both were poor, very poor. We were just lacking that killer touch and belief, but it will come back, so stop slaughtering my team and start supporting them. Trying to sell everyone on a rumours page is doing you no good m8, get to Ibrox and show them what it means to be a RANGERS supporter !! I believe in Rangers... AndyPandy63
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Give us peace andypandy, its people like u that Mr tight loves
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Give ye peace ? No doubt you were spoiled by Murrays millions? I have seen the good, the great and the downright awful over 30 years of following Rangers, but I always support the team ........... We are where we are chum, support the team, or don't. It's guys like you that the Dhims are loving right now, playing right into they're bragging wee hands by slagging your own team................ AndyPandy63
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Wrong andypandy the above poster is correct it is the blindly following supporters like yourself that people like whyte love. they can do what they want and you will spout the same pish like support thhe team rangers for life etc pish etc. its people like you who stop things chnging. how long would whyte stay quiet if the stadium ws empty next home game thats how you force issues.
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You lot really have been spoiled by Murray !! Thats not how you get it changed ffs, who needs enemys with supporters like you lot ? Shameful and not Rangers minded. I'll do it my way and you continue to be spoiled wee brats then, eh? AndyPandy63
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Away back to the moon andypandy, see when u watched the bad did u pay 500 pound for a season ticket? If Mr tight plans to put out crap the season ticket money has to fall, do u think rangers players gave enough to the fans who paid 42 pound a ticket last night?
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So, yer only going to go if they are winning? Away you back to the moon genius ! It's all about how much you paid for a ticket now? I pay the same as most, so don't play that daft game. Tell me genius, if you go and watch yer son play football and he has a bad game, are ye going to shout at him and tell him he's rubbish ? eh, ? That'll get his spirits up and give him confidence....... You are a trophy/ glory hunter and Rangers don't need your negative attitude.... Genius with 500 quid to burn, Lol..... AndyPandy63
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As a supporter for over fifty years, Bondholder, Season Ticket holder I feel I am entitled to watch good football or at least my team playing like a team and at least trying. Other than 45 mins against Celtic, every game has been terrible and if the paying customers are dissatisfied they are entitled to be. The football under Walter was rarely brilliant but was winning football. Under Ally we"re predictable, poor and easy to play against. Call me old fashioned but at home against Caley and St Mirren the points should be a formality and just a matter of how many goals we score...not now. For me the stick out for manager of our great team is Terry Butcher. At least he will get the track suit on and wear his heart on his sleeve. So what if he kicks in a few doors, it will all be for the Glasgow Rangers. Sorry Ally but you should never have got the job in the first place.
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We are terrible right now, but Andy is right. Support the team.
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29 Dec 2011 10:36:20
We miss Naismith 110% every bear knows that, the only way were going to get a similar type and level of player as him is in the EPL by loosening the purse strings, Graham Dorrans springs to mind. The player plus cash deal for Graham Dorrans would be a steal, he's quality and a big Rangers fan.
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29 dec 2011 10:35:52
we are still & will always be simply the best!!!
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Well thats just fantastic then
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29 Dec 2011 10:25:48
if we drop anything aganst motherwell ally should go
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29 Dec 2011 10:24:50
I think we should take the arm band off davis he's not a leader dosent shout at the other player when he needs too
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29 Dec 2011 10:22:41
Can anyone see it getting better anytime soon? What sort of player are we going be able to attract? Boyd would be nuts to join us, what type of service would he get from the midfield?
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29 Dec 2011 10:08:22
Jelavic and a few fringe players to leave in January. The likes of Fleck on loan (best thing for us and him) and bring back Boyd and maybe one loan in, don't see us doing much else
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29 Dec 2011 09:56:31
Still hurting but at least rational thinking now
I think Whyte or ally really needs to come out and tell us what is happening.
Will we have any money to sign players or loan players
Why are so many signings of ally's not in the 18
Why are our youths who played so well against Motherwell no where near the team
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It's not rocket science ally gave whyte an A list and whyte gave him players at the bottom of the B list.
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29 Dec 2011 09:47:19
Out of Europe twice to poor sides,out of league cup to first division side,9 clear a month ago now 2 behind.
In my eyes its not just the players to blame it's the tactics we play.when we are struggling in games Ally dosen't seem to have a clue how to change things, he takes Aluko of puts a left winger on right wing and keeps a left back on left wing,then puts lafferty on left wing when Healy comes on,surley if you play players in there proper positions we will get the best out of them.
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David healy has been Hung out to dry by ally, what does he expect him to do in 10 mins after not playing him for months
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Well he certainly doesnt bring him on to almost immedietly get a straight red card!! Healy did himself no favours last night when we had to score, not give a stupid rash tackle and give them more time to waste.
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29 Dec 2011 09:40:20
Look guys, we're all looking at the wrong place here as to why we failed last night. It wasn't an individual thing it was a combination of a series of bad choices by the manager. For starters...
1. McCulloch and Broadfoot should not have been given a starting place. The starting line up should have had the pace on the wing of Wylde and the more skilled Edu along with Davis in the middle. I don't understand what Ally's fascination is with McCulloch, he is rank, as is Broadfoot...no need to coat it in cherries or icing, just telling you how it is.
2. The midfield needs a serious kick up the ass, they basically weren't there last night. The ball was with the defense, then punted high up the pitch "hoping" to land at Jelavic or Lafferty...it was dreadful
3. The management of the team is lacking in morale...seriously. CW must be reeling, he can surely see the title slipping away from him, which is the threat of no Champions League money for the second season. I'm afraid something needs to happen and happen quickly because our performances of late could see Motherwell come hounding.
I personally cant believe the difference in Rangers since Naismiths injury. I know he was an integral part of the team, but it wasn't a one man show...last night was atrocious and to be honest, Celtic deserved the win. We don't deserve to be up there on the top, and the way we are heading we will be lucky to be second by the end of the season.
And before any of you say it...yes i have faith in Rangers and will always stand by them but i cant stand by and watch this utter drivel...
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Absoulte mince pal, broadfoot had to play whittaker was injured, everyone has been calling for edu to be dropped for weeks, now he has been ur moaning he was not playing, wylde is murder he can't cross a ball, ally is certainly not lacking in morale, The problem was we played 2 up front and got no support or service to them lafferty would of be better operated out wide sum 1 to get the ball and carry it because the midfield was to open allowing the tims to roam about it to freely.ps we scored.
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29 Dec 2011 09:31:53
Good Morning Bears ! Yes it is a beautiful morning - Sun shining , not a breath of air ! But NO - it wasn't a bad dream ! Celtic are top of the League . Next up we've got Dunfermline - you've got Motherwell . 5 point lead anyone ?
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Sun is shining? What part of Scotland u from? It's pouring of rain were I am.
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Aye its -2 in govan too
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29 Dec 2011 09:28:48
Kris Boyd has never looked so good after that terrible performance get jelavic out to Blackburn or something we should snap up the sandaza boy aswell good player
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29 Dec 2011 09:27:02
Remember that bit about Rangers going into Administration , being deducted 10 points and still winning the League - Does that still stand ?
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29 Dec 2011 09:16:33
I remember after the shame game in Feb septic fans saying the league was over, remind me who win it?
Rablam
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29 Dec 2011 08:41:26
well gers fans amended transfer values after last evening
Jelavic- 2 million
Davis- 1 million
Broadfoot- give somebody 1 million to take him
Bartley - train fair back to emirates
Mcgregor- some glue for his increasingly slippy hands
lafferty - give somebody 2 million to take him please
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29 Dec 2011 08:07:33
Realistically who would people like to see out and in? And i mean realistically? Personally I'd like to see go....
Whittaker, Broadfoot, Weir, Ortiz, Bedoya, Healy, Edu, Mculloch and Lafferty.
Maybe bring in.....
O'Connor, Boyd, Cuellar, Templeton, Murray Davidson, Scott Allan, Livermore (loan)
As well as actually playing and using Hutton, Ness, Little, Fleck and Bendicksen.
We have a stagnant squad that needs freshening up. Any thoughts?
Rossco Cyprus Bear
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Healy never given a chance, Bedoya and mckay also need a consistant run. Ortiz looks mince. Definitely use young lads a lot more, Mc Cullough and Whittaker oh and Broadfoot get tae
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29 Dec 2011 07:50:18
How rotten are we we should drop Davis for McKay and Jela for anyone we have no spark as soon as the beggers went 1-nil up l went to bed as l knew we had nothing to get us that goal. Also why was he playing wallace on left Mid he is the slowest guy in the SPL why did we not go with Aluko and Wylde.
McCoist stop playing people in any position just to give them a game
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29 Dec 2011 07:47:27
If anyone thinks jellyfish is worth more than 4 million they are sick. His value has dropped significantly over last 8 weeks. What a waster. Done nothing to justifie these obscene price tags being banded about
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29 Dec 2011 07:46:10
I have got to take my hat off to Davis. He is treated like a legend by the Gers fans, saunters about the park almost didn't break a sweat last night and passing was atrocious. He would by my MOM in a game of hide and seek. He still gets people saying what a great player he is. Kayal and Ki bullied him last night because he is not got the strength or class to play in the middle of the park never mind be our team captain. If we get an offer for him in Jan, we would be very foolish not to offload our mis-firing skipper.
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That's the big problem with this Rangers team, we don't have a midfield worth talking about, no dig, no fight and no creation. I am 59 and went to my first game at Ibrox against Partick Thistle when I was 8. Through most of that time we have had a bit of dig in midfield but not now. Ally, get your act together, you have brought in guys and never really given them a chance, Bedoya, Mackay, etc, I admired you as a player but I think you and McDowell should do the honorable thing and chuck it, your tactics are hopeless, you play guys like Broadfoot Edu and Whittaker (ok he was missing last night but that was a blow for Septic cos if he had been playing we would have been slaughtered) Give the young guys a chance
Coatbridge Loyal ( No I am not atim in disguise, we have a strong support in this tim ridden town)
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29 Dec 2011 07:44:58
Davis stated we need more goals from the midfield and I include myself, my question is WAS HE PLAYING LAST NIGHT I DID NOT SEE HIM he's been #### for months.
Laferty and Jel did not get the service to cause their defence a problem
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29 Dec 2011 07:44:20
The jelly fish is now a joke. Lucky to get 4 million
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29 Dec 2011 07:16:11
Celtic deserved to win we have no players in our midfield capable if keeping possession of the ball and linking to jelavic but aluko got banned for two games for diving what about Charlie mulgrews swan dive outside of our box absolutely no contact and the very nearly scored from it not much getting said about that .
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29 Dec 2011 04:23:37
Ur man Bartley trying to wind up brown in tunnel ha ha yer man mculloch done kayal with a thuggish challenge yet again when he should not have been playing after his thuggish elbow David Healy challenge on young Forrest disgusting and ally defending diving cheats and thuggish behaviour must have been desperate to appeal mcullochs red cos he's poor done of wee Lennon and done Off the big Lennon ur poor gbtp xx have a nice new year x x
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Kayal went over the ball not mcculloch, kayal has been a thug of a player since day 1, healy tackle nowhere near as bad as stokes tackle last year, and if the ball had crossed the line at the other end and not given there would be a uproar
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Did you watch the game it was big lee who went over the ball not kayal maybe you need some glasses or to take your blue tinted ones of {Ed003's Note - It was a complete 50/50 the ball was there to be won and the ref handled the situation correctly }
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29 Dec 2011 04:20:17
i Know it's a sore one to take but i honestly think Broadfoot played well and I think he can get better going forward. I admit he wasn't great, but he accepted the chalenge and there wasn't alot of bears with pass marks.think about the whole team before passing judgement on kirk.
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The full team are poor -
-shagger some good saves but should try dominate his six yard line
- kirk tries hard but gave possession away far too much and didn't jump at goal
- boca pass marks and should be captain
- Bartley getting pulled down to our level by just booting it
- Papic - not as cool as usual playing left mid has taking him of game
- Wallace done ok good goal but out of position at left midfield
- mcculloch off pace as usual
- Davis really poor form needs captaincy taken off him
- aluko at least tried to get forward and take players on
- ladfert
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Sorry hit wrong button
Lafferty - starved of the ball
Jelivic- starved of ball but trying to impress managers in stand with overhead kicks, poor first touch and win almost nothing in air apart from bocas chance
- subs, wylde
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Did it again soz
Wylde - put on wrong side
Healy - hasn't a chance
Edu - did ok when came on
Ally - good idea 442 but didn't work maybe should have pulled lafferty back to midfield to try and get us some possession, mcculloch starting was mistake and post match interview was really poor
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Ledley out jumped Broadfoot for the goal, pass marks you are having a laugh
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Didnt give kirk pass marks said he tried
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29 Dec 2011 03:31:34
Rangers must be the only team to Win the league and lose it before new year mcoist is an imposter to defend Lee the thug mculloch just sums him up we are all Neil the legend Lennon telbhoy oh by the way that was a goal get it up ye
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Lol at least youre honest whilst ripping the p*sh ;)
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29 Dec 2011 02:51:13
Please can anyone answer this its not a rumour but fact.
on xmas eve Rangers goal difference was 26 celtic 25 now after to nights game celtic are 26 and rangers are 25 how could we loose a goal from 24 dec to 28 dec should it not read celtic 26 rangers 26 goal difference? Confused
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You are joking right?
If rangers had 26 goals to the positive i.e. +26 and Celtic had +25, then after last nights game you need to add one to Celtic and take one away from Rangers...that leaves...guess what?
Celtic +26
Rangers +25
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29 Dec 2011 02:28:29
have read some of the posts re: the game, yes goal line technology has to be introduced.... it would defo have changed the game if the goal had stood, but we never really created anything else of note.... Jelavic and Lafferty tried to show but got no real service.....since Naissy was injured real lack of quality, with regards the summer signings I don't know why they've not had a chance but we'll have to see if McCoist is backed in January to see if Whyte is serious about retaining the flag, this is surely a time for ALL bears to stand and be counted, remember WE ARE THE PEOPLE
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29 Dec 2011 02:11:43
Sack mccoist ?? Yous lot are as bad as the dark side !
Hes spent 2 bob man, when u spend very little you get very little !! he knows he needs players he has said several times lately, people come on here and say i go to ibrox every week and its the same crap ! well why dont all these idiots get off your laptops and support the club, havent heard any atmosphere at ibrox in a long time ! im not worried about losing jelavic, im just worried that we dont reinvest the cash in the squad.. Still think the best right back at the club is big edu, played there once or twice and played well.. broadfoot makes me angry and whittaker( one of the best players at the club ) chins up, a good transfer window and we will return to our place !!
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29 Dec 2011 01:49:51
Good to see Chelsea hitkid Josh McEachran is a Rangers fan, he's supposed to be going to Swansea on loan... how about him at Rangers for half a season? He is very creative and a great wee player.
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Epl or spl? Wonder what he will choose?
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Why s it all these guys who play for other clubs are ALL Rangers ( or Celtic ) fans. I dont see them all busting a gut to come up to Scotland to play for their one true love. Mon the JAGS....NAE FANS, NAE MONEY, NAE WORRIES !
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Josh McEachran is a Rangers fan
he wanted rangers to win. he doesnt support you lot just prefers you to us. but going by your logic rio ferdinand is a celtic fan
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29 Dec 2011 01:07:18
Why are Celtic fans acting like they've won the league? They narrowly beat a team who have been so poor that they got beaten off St. Mirren just the week before. Not to mention the Rangers goal that should have stood, it's only a two point gap and Rangers always prevail.
Let's try and get some good cash for Jelavic and bring Boydy back and use the Jelavic money to get attacking players to create.
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No boyd slug like we need pace wise up
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Didnt the player your trying to flog claim the league was just about done n dusted?
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Yes Jelavic was being a lego-eater, a think usually associated with Celtic but as soon as he started gloating his form has went out the window. If we can get any sort of decent fee then he needs to go and bring in more attacking depth instead of relying on one person producing something.
We are the champions!
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Na, we're acting like supporters who've just won an old firm game and turned around a fifteen point defecit before the turn of the year....take the lemon ott yer mouth! lol
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29 Dec 2011 00:44:16
As a celtic fan i was delighted to see kyle bartley trying to growl at scott brown in the tunnel before the game where brown just ignored him. Hes another idiot who panders for acceptance from the rangers fans by playing the hard man when he should concentrate on doing his talking on the pitch!
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Ue team has just beaten their closest rivals and all you think about is Bartley growling at Brown!!! U R A WASTE OF SPACE...HAVE A WASH!!
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29 Dec 2011 00:23:44
usual stoke play . pure crap . keep the chins up its still only 1-1 this season .
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Stoke play? didnt see you get it to the wingers to hit early crosses? only thing in common is useless strikers
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29 Dec 2011 00:09:09
ha ha,ha ha,ha ha ha ha ha ha.what a turnaround.wheres the eejit who was on here weeks ago saying he just saw the fixtures for december and fat sally was gonna be manager of the month?rangers ed gonna post this?probably not.
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29 Dec 2011 00:02:13
yet another toothless performance against an ordinary celtic side who deserved to win, davis is the worst rangers captain i have ever seen and yet again invisable,jelavic is miles off the pace and would be aswell leaving,cant think of any positives to take from this game ,we are going nowhere and questions need to be asked?
ally is a rangers legend but is clearly not up to the job,his signings have been atrocious and it begs the question...how many of them actually play?,his tactics are atrocious and keeps playing players out of position?
we crashed out of 3 competetions against total mince before september
if we lose this title then it surely will be the mother of all F**K ups,
lets face it bears...rangers have been rotten for the last 8 or so games and its no surprise we are now playing catch up
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To be honest, can't be surprised at tonights result - the way we've been playing its been expected.
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Get it right up yous it's only a game but haha cmaca
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Good point about signings.....Juannma Ortiz anyone?? one of the few Rangers players who actually cost money! Step for a hint.........Rangers are fecked!!
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28 Dec 2011 23:52:33
Ally mccoist shud be sacked. Worst gers manager I've ever seen. At least le guen had his own ideas. Too many bad performances while he stands cluelessly watching on the sidelines. Has failed miserably to make his own mark on the team. Sorry ally ur times up. Always a rangers legend, never a rangers manager
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Far too much in the image of walter smith
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