Rangers Banter Archive February 29 2012

29 Feb 2012 23:26:00
wood like to know what the rangers fans think about whats is going on at dunfermline ? because its basically rangers fault by not paying them money that they are due yet they have they brass neck to complain about celtic not paying ticket money early for the next old firm game its a disgrace
davie c

How the f@ck can we help when were in the middle of a slow train crash ffs

If it takes Rangers not paying for one games ticket money that they would not even have if Rangers fans didn't travel in their thousands then that blows the argument that Scottish Football does not need us!

Gers1986

It doesnt blow the argument out of the water...it blows Dunfermlines budget out of the water!...Next year without Rangers they will adjust their budget and cashflow accordingly...how does anyone in DIV 1, DIV 2 or DIV 3 live without Rangers and Celtic...answer...they live within their means, if the money is not there they dont spend it...Rangers could learn a lot from their business model.

29 Feb 2012 23:06:37
As a lifelong Rangers fan, I feel like a
German who is scared of sausages........
I fear the WURST!
Seriously though, all of Mr Whyte actions
thus far have led us to, almost the
point of no return. We have been set
up bigtime and I can't see a logical
survival plan.
This is working out perfectly for
someone.........but who and why?

I agree with most of ur post but lay off the sausage jokes they are shocking... who has got to be whyte unless santa comes early and brings megamoney with them........
craig+babybear

Felt this from day one brother hope were shafting someone,fear were being shafteed

so whats it to be

were in such a bad state that no one can come in for us,ticketus,side letters, Whyte

so it looks as if this was ment to be it was organised a while ago....we cant change it so stand back and watch the slow train crash Murray has shafted his people
dont get to upset with the messanger Whyte he,s here to do his duty
we were f@cked a while ago

stay calm and wait for orders.....les

29 Feb 2012 22:10:45
i for one think the info coming out of our club from administraters aint very good we havent herd anything for a while now they need come clean an tell us the truth about our club before its to late a think our club is heading for liqudation

Hmmmm... "our club" 3 times. Doom and gloom message. I - smell - timmy... Why are you so un-interested in your own club? Are they really that dull? Or do you just prefer our tops or what?
BB

@BB;the most ironic thing about the "timmy" stuff is if you had listened to "timmy" you might not be in such a mess.the "whyte knight" had you all fooled,now people are losing jobs,you owe clubs money,whyte is selling anything that isnt screwed down and you are staring at liquidation.dear,dear,will you ever learn?..........green jhedi

Why do celtic fans keep saying 'you should have listened to us'? as if we signed the document allowing whyte to take over and when whyte was taking over yous were only slagging him off cos yous had the fear of us having the same spending power! a say power your transfer warchest will prob be 2 mill to replace bangura the worderkid, anyway.... Celtic fans knew less than us about whyte its just by chance that he has turned out to be a crook(pretty good one) and stop this 'criminals, cheating the country out of money' half the parkhead loyalists only pay N.I cos they sign on..
FauldsRFC

Faulds rfc; two sources pointed out 18 months ago he was dodgy,you might have been able to pressure murray if you knew more.the sign on bit says more about you than anything.............green jhedi

FauldsRFC... Well said. The Celtic "tax guru's" were never going to say well done boys for finding a new buyer. A Saudi shiek could have bought us and they would have said it was to find oil under Ibrox... jhedi, you were always going to be negative in your comments, it's the nature of the Old Firm beast, and nothing to do with a sudden rise in East end intelligence levels...
BB

29 Feb 2012 20:58:09
Just a reminder to the Celtic fans .when we head to ibrox please remember .Do not buy drinks pies anything
He who bumped the pie man deserves to get bumped

That's about right, need to get a message to Ceptic fans, put it on the champions page... Work that out, eh?
BB

You will not be saying that word Champions for many a year haha

You have not said it for many a year hoho
BB

You better tell that to kris commons then poor bugger was getting his hopes up............. craig+babybear ha ha dont buy pies this is fantastic,

He has put this message on our page because they are always on our page we will be back stronger than ever so they can have there title or next couple years we will be champions again

Thought rangers sold the catering? So celtic fans want to deprive someone else of a job?

Division 3 champions if whytey gets his way..............green jhedi

What pies?? fat sallys eaten all the pies. Mind the chasm. MMI2009

29 Feb 2012 20:46:52
craig sh*te said rangers would be out of administration by next pay day, at least he told the truth, what he forgot to add was, we will be in liquidation by then. and he ends up a rich man, has this guy got no shame at all?

29 Feb 2012 17:27:19
Got a letter today from Duff and Phelps telling me they have been appointed administrators of the club - glad to see they are totally on the ball! Does anyone else think their is any truth in what D King was saying last night on clyde superscoreboard - that he feels that they are acting in the best interests of Craig Whyte. If they are looking after Craig Whytes interests, HMRC are looking after theirs and all the other creditors are looking after their interest - Who is looking after the interests of Rangers Football Club? Just feel our great club is coming second everytime all these people who have allowed this to happen

29 Feb 2012 16:20:17
Note to all timmy who keep saying you owe ticketus money so pay them.

Rangers dont Craig Whyte does.

He said he'd pay off lloyds from his own funding. His funding was done incorrectly pawning something he doesnt own


Bfh

Right boys I'm getting confused... I thought we owe them season tickets (or just seats if they get boycott)... Am I not right in thinking it WASN'T a loan so if it's not a loan then how can we owe them money? Fair chance I'm wrong coz I do confuse myself most of the time , can you help ed?
PaulRFC
Ps... I thought ticketus owned 3rys of tickets for them alone to sell

Rangers is his insurance, they bought Rangers tickets, as one of his companies he can move around debts if u come out of admin

I would be more worried bout things than only to try to correct Timmy. Facts remain your debt sat at around 34m in 2007 but in 2011 it has fallen by almost half to 18 m. You have been forced into admin for an amount smaller than this.. Before any of you say the admin was voluntary, yes it was but the tax man was ready to petition for it himself. Whyte forced the admin so as to be able to choose his own administrators,what does this mean? I'm not sure but what I do know is that every other decision Whyte has made has not had your clubs interests at the top o the pile,far from it

Jamie Mac(thinks rangers have bigger fish to fry than correcting Timmy, after all is said and done)

If the ticketus deal is void, you owe ticketus 24 million quid. They will have a personal guarantee from Craig whyte, who in turn now owns rangers, are you really so stupid that you think you can walk away scot free. Also, the contract with them was drafted in terms of English law, not scots law as the administrators hoped

Experts now in English Law are yous now.You wee timmy experts on this site never fail to amaze us.

29 Feb 2012 16:13:58
is it just me, or do you think the DR are starting to fan the flames for the old firm game with their headlines regarding the ticket money advance?

for them to publish the same article 2 days running, without quotes from anyone within rangers or celtic, and using terms like 'reneged on a verbal agreement', that says to me they have no basis or foundation, or facts as to what has been said, or is going on.

the truth is, Celtic were paid 5 DAYS in advance for the game at parkhead, and if any agreement was made between the clubs for celtic to do the same, then they will also pay within 1 week of the game at ibrox. why should they stump up a whole month before the game takes place? if rangers need £300k so desperately, that tells me that the club won't even survive till the end of THIS week.

it's absolute garbage, and just like the controversial 'who is more hated at ibrox' headline, what the DR are doing is pandering to the idiots, and stoking the fire for what already is looking to be a very emotional game.

shame on the DR, and shame on the authorities for not taking them to task over this

taco

Think they are trying to fan the flames just like they have went after Rangers and Craig Whyte without mercy in the last few weeks. I don't want any help from Celtic and certainly don't expect it we got ourselves into this and we will get ourselves out of it. I don't want Celtic to have any part in helping our club what so ever

Wouldn't suprise me Taco anything to get a reaction from Old Firm fans.

Billyboy1

Dont agree with a lot of what you say Taco but your bang on this time, well said.

Drew

Sadly we relish the thought of either club being in trouble or in the wrong. Then when some poor sod gets seriously hurt because somebody acts like a plonker because he is hyped up by the media they step back and claim "don't blame us". They load the cannons and wait for some bam to fire them then have a 5 page spread slaughtering the bam.wha's like us, Naebody.

Loading the cannons exactly!

how many times have we seen provocative journalism like this, especially from the DR, in the build up to an OF game? you can be guaranteed before every one, there will be some sort of inflamatory spread about celtic or rangers, or they'll twist someones words, then sit back and watch it all blow up so that they can then point the finger and be 'disgusted' by the actions of a few morons. you only have to look at how it escalated with lennon last year, and when they are brought to task about it and have to issue an apology, it's stuck 5 pages from the back and about 1/2 inch high

absolutely sickens me. and to the un-named poster, i agree, they are going after rangers with a venom right now. if you were to read proper newspapers, half of the cr@p the DR comes up with doesn't even merit a mention

Taco you talk some amount of garbage on here but this is the first thing iv agreed with. You have got it bang on

Lee

Said pretty much the same thing further down the page, these rags incite the hatred then sit on the fence when it all kicks off!
Willybhoy

Folks, we all know the DR is no friend of Celtic or Rangers. They will shaft you guys to get a story and they'll shaft us if they think they'll get a bigger one. The business of Celtic and Rangers is football...the business of the DR is to sell papers no matter who they offend or upset.

HAIL HAIL
ChrisBhoy

Just one question, have Celtic taken the money from their fans for the OF game ie sold the tickets?

Well said taco (for once) a sensible post
s-bear

''old firm fans in total agreement'' shocking exclusive.....read it in today's DR

I don't know about the total agreement mate....it appears there is a DR 'hack' on this site lol!

just to say, tickets are not on sale for the OF game yet either, normally 2 weeks before the game is due before they go on sale, so to the un-named poster, no, Celtic haven't taken any money

taco

Is there not some way both sets of fans can bring the daily records inflammatory rubbish to the attention of the scottish Parliament?

29 Feb 2012 14:59:20
Cant believe Rangers fans having a go at Celtic over ticket money when you still owe Dumferline, Dundee Utd and Inverness money for match tickets!

Here is a novel idea, when the £300,000 arrives from Celtic in a couple of weeks time, why dont Rangers do the honourable thing and pay their debts to these clubs which they have cheated out of valuble revenue.

You lot are always banging on about acting with dignity, well here is a chance to prove it - pay your debts! No Didnt think so!

Why don't you get with the times mate ! We heard all this yesterday or have you nothing else to say? Here's a novel idea , why don't you buy an read today's rags instead of stealing yesterday's out of your neighbours bin! Nah didn't think so !
PaulRFC

At least i can afford to buy a newspaper which is more than i can say for that shambles of a club you support!

The payment of debt is at the administrators discretion i think,so it's out of rangers hands.you would hope the smaller clubs needs will be taken into consideration.......green jhedi

Jehdi some guys stole your name mate ? Not sure how copyright works because he spelt it different! PaulRFC

29 Feb 2012 14:26:28
Ed any idea what's happening mate? Is there a press conference the day to tell us who's leaving i can't find a mention of it anywhere, you would think they would want the boys to no as early as poss, cheers!
PaulRFC {Ed001's Note - sorry I don't, I have been busy finding out about Port Vale, who look almost certain to fold, unfortunately, unless there is a drastic change in their situation. But, and I do feel this is of interest, HMRC applied immediately for a winding up order in that case, not to put the club into administration. Which suggests it is felt that Rangers can come out of the other side.}

HI ED, I DONT UNDERSTAND LOL.... could we have a break down analysis ofwhat your talking about in regards to whats going on at portvale and how that situation might be good for rangers ? {Ed001's Note - oh simple really mate, Port Vale are in trouble with back tax payments to HMRC, but in their case HMRC have looked at them and decided they have no chance of paying it back and gone to court for a winding up order. In other words to have the company wound up, which means either they get their money back or the company ceases to exist. In Rangers case, HMRC applied for administration, which means they still feel their is a good hope that the business can continue.}

Thank you ed, well that sounds hopefull for us , feel for port vale though that is a shame on them. I hope for their fans an staff that they pull through, although it looks highly doubtfall
PaulRFC {Ed001's Note - I hope Port Vale survive as well, but it is looking less likely by the day.}

Ed according to sky news local council putting 300,000 into port vale to give them a bit of time to solve there probs.ah the best port vale hope you come out the other side

29 Feb 2012 12:55:59
This is getting better and better by the day, rangers owe dundee utd approximately 100,000 yet the ask united to stump up cash for the next game at tannadice, honest to god you could not make this up,

hail hail

Marco1888

Wrong. They have said to Utd that they will give them the majority of the cash for the game prior to the match, and the rest 72 hours after it.

They have not asked Utd to stump up cash for anything

It's United who get the money at Tannadice not rangers so think about what your posting before you try to put the boot in. If it was the way you described i'm sure it would be taken off what was allready owed. Read below for proper details. Scoobs

Meanwhile, Dundee United have been told by administrators Duff and Phelps they will receive ticket money from the Rangers game at Tannadice on March 17.

Most of the cash will be paid before the SPL match on Tayside.

The balance will be cleared from the administrators’ bank account 72 hours later.

So it looks like you could make it up?
Blue Jedi

What about the money RAngers owe from the cup game at Castle Greyskull?

Castle greyskull i like that alot coz its where he-man lives dumbass


TB

@TB;soon be where HMRC man lives..........green jhedi

29 Feb 2012 12:27:03
For GCUK and the other bears on here who seem to follow my posts, and
can even tell me what I posted months ago... Here are some questions...
Your saverangers is a good idea, but just how much money is CERTAIN to
come in, as RFc fans in past have promised money but not delivered.
Here is a suggestion from this tim.. at your home games, starting with
Hearts start collecting donations from fans as they enter ground, we will
then see how genuine your fans are. You all took a while, regarding seeing what Whyte is, but you seem to be falling into same trap again, as all the "saviours" being mentioned have their own colourful pasts, here is another wee suggestion, get a person in place with INTEGRITY (I know its a word alien to bears but look it up) Finally instead of trying to blame
everyone else for your problems, take a long hard look in the mirror
and see that all your problems, going back years were all caused by
RANGERS MINDED PEOPLE. Oh and just to prove my point, your own RSA trying to blame Celtic for the ticket cash, when your club owes about 4 clubs already is, well laughable. Remember too David Murray put wee airdrie out of business for just £30,000 so people remember how you
acted and now have no sympathy for your greedy club. Timalloy
PS when replying for once try and be civil with no name calling...

I agree with you,good honest people could b out of jobs,money owed to other clubs could lead ti more,the fans have been cheated,but how any of the ibrox fans can still support the club when if this wasent their team would be outraged but it everyone elses fault,the honest fans paying their own money to support that should take good look @ thamselves

Timalloy also read today the administrators have asked(wait for it)Dundee Utd if they can pay the bulk of the ticket money for the game at tannadice a day before the game and the rest 72hrs later, they are also going to ask Motherwell to do the same sort of deal, and they want us to pay weeks in advance and we are the lowlifes for not doing it(OH HOW IRONIC)MACCA

Rangers fans going by posts i've seen think that "doing the moral thing" applys to every other club except Rangers , all they seem to debate is how to "get away" with paying their debts , if yous had any moral fibre you would be finding ways of paying what you owe , instead of leaving others out of pocket , answer me this , why would Celtic or any other club for that matter hand Rangers money for tickets in advance ? given recent developments and revelations it would be lunacy , there are no cast iron guarantees that Rangers will be around to fulfil these commitments .

Tim your bitterness shines through even when you try to be sensible, after each sensible point you put a snide remark. Maybe the club need the money to pay the other clubs off? Its swings and roundabouts isnt it? Personally I dont do cash donations because no matter how well meaning a cause theres always bad people ready to profit. Any real donations should be saved until a proper, managed secure way to do so is in place. CheltBlue ps. your more septic peg than mystic meg ;)

Timmaloy with the way things are at moment i dont think fans would trust a collection at ibrox as they wouldnt know where money is going at mo .dont know who to trust anymore .....bigt

Why say try and be civil when your post is completely patronising, We really don't need to hear your suggestions and frankly don't care. Thanks but we all know how this mess came about. And if Airdrie we're put out off business for a meagre 30,000 then its obviously they had major underlying problems before this, Many factors closed the doors.

Get A Life Timalloy

GALT

CheltBlue

Is there not a danger though that by the time a managed secure way is in place it could be too late. Create a bank account get Walter Smith to be the custodian

Timalloy, are you a rangers or a Celtic supporter? You seem to be on here more than most, with a wealth of information at your fingertips I am curious to find out your leanings.

Un-named poster the Walter Smith idea is quite good, unfortunately hes been too close to the situation. A group of ex players headed by (John Greig?) including former captains or legends might make a good patronage? CheltBlue

29 Feb 2012 11:31:29
Back again with another queston.

Is it true that the new TV deal signed with ESPN and Sky had a clause in it that stated implementation of the deal was dependant on both Rangers and Celtic partcipating in the SPL? If so, I can't help wondering that such a clause was only put in place because at that time, people had gotten wind of what was about to come at Ibrox. Otherwise, it would be a pretty redundant clause to put into the contract, would it not?

Personally, whilst we fans outside the Old Firm have a lot of legitimate reasons to be slightly irked by the behaviour of both Rangers and Celtic at times, I would not like to envisage a future for Scottish football without a viable TV deal in place. Rangers should be punished, but I do genuinely feel sorry for the genuine fans whose only interest was to support the team and not partake in any of the nonsense outside of what takes place on the pitch. For them to be punished by the practices of those who ran the club into this position is frankly wrong.

Anyways, answers would as always be welcome and as a Motherwell fan, whatever happens, I just hope Rangers do not come knocking on our door for Stuart McCall. He's been a revelation for us with such a small squad.

Ajeno.

It just goes to show you need the old firm to survive,as for being a bit peeved,
you should be thanking us or you would be just a part time club

It is true that the current TV deal is dependent on Rangers and Celtic being there. I think the actual condition is that there is four OF games a year. So it may have been put in place to prevent league alterations but as it's turned out will hurt the other teams if Rangers go bust.
I agree with you about McCall, he has done a brilliant job with Motherwell and as a Rangers fan I kind of hope we do go knocking!

GovanFR

There is no clause in the Sky/ESPN contract stipulating there must be Celtic/Rangers games - this is just a made up story!

If anyone has hard evidence to prove otherwise post a link to it!

It was stated at the time there had to be 4 old firm games a season. But it was to do with the league changing to 14 or 16 teams and meaning only 2 old firm games a season. If this did happen then sky could walk away from the deal. Ed can you confirm this please. {Ed001's Note - yes, it was to do with the number of times teams played each other.}

If you have evidence that says it doesnt post a link , id put my house on it sky will definately have a clause in it because what games are shown on sky and not espn..... yip youve guessed it

There is no clause in the Sky/ESPN contract stipulating there must be Celtic/Rangers games - this is just a made up story!

If anyone has hard evidence to prove otherwise post a link to it!

I can't find a link to prove it but it is common knowledge. Can you prove there is no stipulation or is it just wishful thinking?

GovanFR

That would be akin to match fixing. you can't guarantee teams will be in the same league, and if there is a clause like that in it, then all sorts of claims of corruption and match fixing would arise.

taco

Http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/nov/21/spl-tv-deal-sky-espn

Reported in the Guardian...ok not Hard evidence...i couldnt get a copy of the signed agreement but the best i could do at short notice.
For whats its worth I dont think the SPL could sign up to a deal with protected Rangers and Celtics SPL status! Just my opinion though!

Taco its bull neil doncaster ha come out amd said it are people stupid ? Sly aint interested in any other teams

TB

29 Feb 2012 10:12:00
As i posted a few weeks ago, much to the disdain of many other bears, probably because they are either too ignorant to face the facts or are simply too blind to see whats going on. Let me re-cap

1. CW and DM knew what was happening ALL ALONG. DM needed a buyer who was willing toput Rangers into Admin admin. DM wouldn't do it because of his reputation (knighted) and his 20 year history
2. CW's plan, along with DM was to put the company into admin, but before hand he wasn't going to pay bills or buy players (hence the lack of signings).
3. CW was always going to go to Ticketus for the 18mil, Lloyds didn't care where the money came from, and DM allowed the deal to go through because him and CW knew that a large portion of that Ticketus debt will be wiped when in admin
4. Rangers will win the HMRC case but HRMC will appeal. The administrators will be able to move forward with clearing the "real" debt.
5. Rangers will NOT go into liquidation.
6. As soon as the HRMC case is decided, CW will sell Rangers. He will sell to a buyer who will be viewed as a "knight in shining armour".]
7. CW will make a pretty penny out of it, and will feel "victimised" by Rangers fans. This is the excuse for selling.
8. Rangers will continue to operate with a new sense of purpose and will begin to buy new players.
9. They will NOT be in Europe next season
10. Walter Smith will return to Rangers as the Director of Football (upstairs), but only once the new buyer completes the deal.

Some of you will disagree with what i have written but it you actually put the pieces together, you will soon see that everything that is happening was planned. No one, no matter how stupid they are would make SO many bad financial choices when buying a big company without some sort of fail safe to get out of it better than they went in.

Jamie

You need to wake up and smell the coffee
Administrators are working towards one thing ..Liquidation Also incase you are unaware .David murray's own business is not going great {Ed001's Note - administrators will not ever work towards liquidation. Please don't comment on things clearly beyond your understanding, as you are obviously ignorant of the job an administrator does. Their job is to try and keep companies from being liquidated.}

Rangers can't win tax case,Murray has admitted liability,to some extent,already. Why else would he have made an "offer" last January?

Dream on bud, the BBC is telling the truth

Jamie Mac

@Jamie; Two weeks ago i would never have swallowed this.Now...could be true.The only stumbling block is the FSA who,im pretty sure, would think this is sharp practice.As you say the moves made by whyte in most cases seem stupid in the extreme,unless liquidation is the road he wants to follow.As preffered creditor that would suit him,using the "victimised" card to re-sell.I still think HMRC hold the aces in this case and he might also be playing in a high stakes poker game with them.The sad thing is the only people suffering and ultimately paying are rangers fans............green jhedi

OK first off, i have first had experience with administrators and they DO NOT aim for liquidation, they aim for re-structure. So stop posting p**h.

To the second poster, the BBC NEVER tell the truth, so please, take that drivel elsewhere. The media's job is to sensationalise everything so that you click on their website or buy their newspaper.

What is going on is what "needed" to happen. If the "plan" above wasn't instigated and thought through, Rangers WOULD have definitely gone into liquidation.

CW, although a bit of a character, isn't stupid when it comes to business, he's just shrewd and will make his money any way he can. The administrators were with him when he took over, and they're with him at the end, why? Because it was already decided how it would play out to save Rangers and CW to make money...

Jamie

Jamie its what i thought at first its wobbled a bit over the last 2 weeks ,i,d even go as far as thats why there are very few big names on the tv ,there standing back watching waiting....who,s your knight...souness....les

The BBC never tell the truth?#heidinthesand right enough lol . They never tell the truth but have been bang on the money with each claim they have made bout Whyte and his intentions. Pretty sure they also have breaking news on current affairs,politics etc etc but because they said bad things bout "the people" they arliars and incapable of telling the truth lol how desperate doyou sound?

Jamie Mac(pretty sure BBC tell the truth as far as possible,they have governing bodies too you know!!)

Darrell king saying liquidation last night on radio ...But then rangers fans believed whyte had a plan ..Yous better believe he has one for himself ..when will yous ever learn ...THICK AS F**K

Shouldnt stuff like this be on "Conspiracy Talk"? CheltBlue ps. they have some funny photos on there bears lol.

For a start, an administrators job is to AVOID liquidation, that's what they are paid for, and if they take a company into liquidation, it's seen as a failure on their behalf, and a black mark on their record.

to Jamie, the BBC NEVER tell the truth? well, the entire expose on whytey boy turned out to be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing BUT the truth! i can't believe you still think that whats coming out in the media is all lies...yes, some of it is sensationalist, but the vast majority is fact, albeit around 18 months late!

whytey boy THINKS he's smart, but he didn't reckon on this whole can of worms being opened before he had the chance to run away. any dreams he had of being the preferred creditor disappeared when it came to light that he had no money to start with, and now he's looking at a potential jail term rather than walking off into the sunset with a wedge

taco

29 Feb 2012 09:38:16
I am not usually one for watching soap operas , but this rangers thing is great.
I am always on trying to keep upto date with everything lol and this is comedy gold.

anyway I digress , my point was how low can rangers sink, they are trying to bump ticketus ,hearts, dun utd, dunfemline, inverness , and rapid Vienna, so if that's how a club with "dignity" is run then you cam keep it, all you have to do is look over to the east and see how a football club is professionally run.

hail hail

Marco1888

Same club that was hours from going to the wall? You were saved by a shrewd businessman in a bunnet! Whereas we have been screwed by a crook!

You really are a sad little man away and support your own club,you sure your no a bear in disguise, what about Kelly in the 60s you really have a short memory bet yoiu were for sacking Lennon when you could not beat an egg 4 mths ago parkhead half empty.stones and glass houses?

Regardless of whatever happens with ticketus, they still owe them 24m.

taco

29 Feb 2012 08:19:46
My predictions for cull: definites: sclafrty (no loss there), healy, papac (unfortunately). Possibles: Alexander, broadfoot, bedoya, maybe goian- minimum sell-on value him and captain america clearly. Last one less likely I suppose. Edu too possibly just because of economics of situation. I'm sure ally wouldnae want to lose him though. If hutton can be recalled from dunfy is might have a bearing. I hope it's no all the young boys get chucked but I won't be holding my breath.

29 Feb 2012 03:55:56
BREAKING NEWS:

Darrell King, Radio Clyde and The Daily Record are meeting with administrators later for crunch talks to tell them to stop pandering to Whyte and hand the administrators the cuts, pay-offs and restructuring they are to pursue.

It is now clear that King et al do actually know more than everybody else and the I formation peddled through various media outlets is, actually wholly accurate and unquestionable.

It is believed they plan to liquidate Rangers FC.

So why would the Administraters meet with Darrel King The Daily Record and Radio Clyde? For.go away ya nutter.

So darrell king ,radio clyde , daily record are going to meet admin to tell them how to do their job ha ha ha away and play on a motorway ya nugget what a stupid post

Guys. He is clearly being sarcastic ! You can't see that ? Lol. Good post.

29 Feb 2012 07:52:04
David murry and craig whyte are the pepole to blame they made the finial say on everything , craig whyte says he will be back at rangers a dont think so hes a coward and a born lier , us the fans should put money into rangers with a paul murry david king and 2 other pepole that invest in the club and they have the final say

29 Feb 2012 00:47:07
Hi Guys, enjoying the banter, but we have to be serious, what is going on at Ibrox? Here is my theory !

The way I see it its one of three possibilities and here they are .....

1) Craig Whyte is a crook from day 1, bought the club for £1, promised to pay the debt and invest in the club but robbed the Ticketus money, sold the Arsenal Share, robbed the tax man and f***d off to Monaco..........or.....

2) 'Sir' David Murray needed a scape goat, his money was gone, had cheated the tax man, club was up to his neck in debt and needed a patsy an sold it to poor Craig Whyte, who had no option but to take club into Administration !....or....

3) David who knew the game was up, no one interested in bailing out Rangers, debt to high, tax man breathing down their necks, goes with plan B, in cahoots with Craig Whyte, puts the club into Administration, sells eveyrthing that isn't nailed down to get a few million for himself(CWhyte), nothing left for taxman, no cash left, is the tax man really going to close it down !(not likely - a national institution!) now the Blue Knights (ex directors and friends of D Murray) can buy the club at a bargain price and pay the tax man and all other creditors 10p (if there lucky) in the pound, Rangers debt gets written off for £7.5 million, and new owners can invest in new players etc....

Now reread all David Whytes comments about these steps are in the best interests of the club and how the club will be stronger...starting to make sense?

Its a game of poker with the taxman and its all on the table. Why would Craig Whyte pay any tax to the revenue or even put his own monwy in, if they weren't going to pay the orginal tax in the first place!

Its a lose lose for the taxman and the hospitals, school, and tax payers etc in scotland !

Remember the Stadium is in a different company so it can be touched, and in the worse case scenario Rangers United can be started in the morning and rented the stadium for very little money.

I cant believe all the statement of surprise and shock that the Ally and the directors are comign out with, the dogs inth e street kwn that rangers were in deep s**t about 3 years ago !
You decide

I hope you are right this sounds like a plan to me thanks for cheering me up timmy oh it must make you want to rip your knitting you poor sad man

About time you worked it out, wahey a bear wae a brain, wev been telling you since last may about whyte being a crook and murrays patsy,

Ska bhoy

This man is telling the truth don't blind yourself with patriotism. SDM and CW have cleaned the club out and their friends are waiting in the wings to pick up the pieces at rock bottom prices, to avoid paying the tax man his due. Who going to blink first the tax man or the administrators ! Are loyal Rangers fans going to let the club go down the tubes, get organised get onto the administrators before its too late !