Rangers Banter Archive March 29 2012

29 Mar 2012 22:30:55
alright guys this whole scenario has been planned in some sort, way before whyte did the reservoir dogs walk down edminston drive.He personaly goes to court to have D&P as administrator,One of their men also did the walk i believe. then after being hand picked they suddenly want to distance themself from whyte? then say he is not a distraction to the club when lookikng for buyers? how? he still holds the cards i think and is playing the lot of us fans , media, courts, some pair of baws for a wierd looking fud.
heres hoping it all ends good in some way

rangers till i die

Loved the way you signed off there. "some pair of baws for a weird looking fud" is a classic line.

Made me smile.

pappy

29 Mar 2012 20:46:18
Companies act 2006 with a bit of luck this can be proved against CW !

Assistance for acquisition of shares in public company

(1)Where a person is acquiring or proposing to acquire shares in a public company, it is not lawful for that company, or a company that is a subsidiary of that company, to give financial assistance directly or indirectly for the purpose of the acquisition before or at the same time as the acquisition takes place.

(2)Subsection (1) does not prohibit a company from giving financial assistance for the acquisition of shares in it or its holding company if—

(a)the company's principal purpose in giving the assistance is not to give it for the purpose of any such acquisition, or

(b)the giving of the assistance for that purpose is only an incidental part of some larger purpose of the company,

and the assistance is given in good faith in the interests of the company.

Do you think Whyte's an idiot who just walked into this? This is what he does,it's his business.This guy has everybody by the plums and will run his game plan out.Rangers fans are being emotionally blackmailed to keep a club running that cant survive without a huge cash influx.

Hate to admit it but i just can't see a way out of this. BK'S been sent packing for chasing up D&P,why are they taking so long over this? It looks like a newco or nothing bears. Stevie-A-Bear

Whyte borrowed money from ticketus and then transferred that debt from one of his properties/companies to the new one. whoever ticketus actually are, and how and when they met whyte are other questions. there isnt an easy way out of this.

29 Mar 2012 20:13:38
So much for duff and phelps saying that whyte is irrelevant. Don't think so, this little weasel is going to the end of us. NEver have I seen such a repugnant man with the morals of an alley cat.
He needs to be made aware that he is not welcome and I for one won't be renewing my ticket when there is any sign of him at ibrox.
But as much as I despise him I have to say that he must have a melon sized pair of brass boz, he seems to have no regrets, no shame, and clearly no feelings for the gers?He is a charlatan, a con man, a liar, a money grabbing, back stabbing pile of s**t

And he wont be around much longer if he knows whats good for him hes a midget tony mowbray a walking nightmare hes beat neil lennon into 1st place for most hated man in scotland

Poor play, why is Lennon the most hated man in Scotland? What has he done to deserve that? What a joke of a statement

You mean hated only by gers supporters, moron.

I'm a gers fan who hates Craig whyte far more than Neil Lennon.

@1, he just sumed up why your club needs to end! NL has done nothing to your club yet yous rly hate him but the SDM walters and others, your fine with for bringing your club to its END, yous are truley sad people because you cant se NL is not the problem!

I dont hate Neil Lennon, I dislike him.... On the other hand i HATE Whyte.

Mr Blonde

29 Mar 2012 18:20:09
ive already posted this on the celtic pages so dont know if ed will post it here


There has been a lot of posts on here from celtic fans who continually say all rangers fans hate or detest Neil Lennon no doubt some do just as some Celtic fans hate Ally McCoist but the majority of Rangers fans i know have no love for the man but stop short of hating him. i can only tell you how i feel and why i feel this way no doubt i will get a trouncing for this.

I am not a Neil Lennon hater i dislike the man just about the same level as i disliked Strachan. saying that i disliked both of them more than any other manager in Celtics history, the reason for this is quite simply its down to how they handle themselves in front of a microphone. and how they are portrayed in the Media. every picture taken of Mr Lennon he is either Snarling/spitting or throwing/kicking something about, this does not help endear him to the general public (i know he has no control over what pics the media decide to show of him) but what Mr Lennon can control is how he behaves in front of the microphone.

As it has been stated before something like 26 games undefeated and not a whimper out of Mr Lennon some major decisions have gone for him ( Wallace goal in the 1-0 win December for instance) plus loads more and Loads have gone against him but as long as he won not a sound. what im getting at you cant have it both ways you either accept refs decisions whether they go for you or against you and get on with it, or you try and bring them to task every time they make a hash of it whether it goes for you or against you. Mr Lennon said the ref spoiled the game on Sunday by sending cha off he may be right but he spoiled it for you Mr Lennon. i do not recall him complaining that willie Collum spoiled the game when he denied a perfectly good goal against his team.
everyone one goes on about him being a bad loser well thats one of the things i respect him for who wants a good lose for a manager? not me. someone should show Neil Lennon how to lose with Dignity. maybe managers should do what they expect the refs to do at least be consistent bring them to task if they make a balls up regardless which way the decision goes or accept their decisions and move on.

one more thing i do not dislike all celtic managers i had great respect for Jock Stein and Tommy Burns and i just loved John Barnes and Tony Mowbury lol

Pad

Well done mate, got to be the most sensible thing a Celtic fan has said on here

Quabba

I thought i have made it clear that im a Rangers fan lol

Pad

Couldnt care less, get over it!

J

29 Mar 2012 17:05:06
That bid from the dating site, ridiculous as it looked is starting to look attractive amongst all the recent developments.

Probably them that got Murray and Whyte together, lol

29 Mar 2012 15:02:18
"To be a Ranger is to sense the sacred trust of upholding all that such a name means in this shrine of football. They must be true in their conception of what the Ibrox tradition seeks from them. No true Ranger has ever failed in the tradition set him. jsm

Bears. You the fans need to do something. I don't know what, but it's your team and no one is going to save it unless you do. What are your fans associations doing.

Aye the tradition of lying and cheating the taxman!

No true ranger eh, so what defines a "true ranger" is it if he succeds so u can say he is a true ranger because he succeded, therefore by definition no true ranger can not succed

29 Mar 2012 14:42:44
2 things to comment on here...martin bain fir starters ....feel theres more to the case being dropped than meets the eye as we will find out soon enuff.....thinking whytees about to get his asze felt.....also kennedy droppin his offer....never was serious ..just lookin for exposure and boy did he get it....his portfolio just got better or should i say ...more exposure again.....up the gers...deecee

29 Mar 2012 14:30:51
Duff and Duffer not paid Dundee United for the league match on the 19th March. What is going on with this firm, still working for Mr Tight or is there a long term plan.

The long term plan is for duff and duffer to screw as much cash out of rangers as they can, they are hitting fans off with rubbish and fans are buying into it, you would think the REAL fans that Mr tight pulled the wool over wouldn't be so daft again, but guess what? They are.

The gers grim reaper.

29 Mar 2012 14:26:58
administrators have just made a statement it is on the rangers website if anybody wants to read it

campbell

29 Mar 2012 13:47:16
Well you gotta laugh at the cheek of rfc trying to get spl to go light on them,after announcing will pay pars 22000!!yet bump d.united out there outstanding 70grand& with a creditors list like a yellow pages,yet sandy jardine will have press taking pics handing over check as if this a huge headline.lmao,rfc the club with no shame,morales,scruples,integrity,weres the bids?all gone suddenly quiet??awe thats rite wernt yous told all pr spin.wee craigo the 1 who will decide if the club is sold,not ally,or duuf& duffer!!whytes plan all along is head rfc into admin,then lead upto liquidation...stevo

Ed any chance you can edit his posts so they make sense? {Ed001's Note - if I knew what he was saying maybe.}

It was the RFFF which paid Dunfermline not Rangers as such, the fund is not controlled by the administrators. Not so long ago Dundee United charged Rangers fans to attend a replay of a game at Tannadice that was abandoned, the RFFF thinking is they gained money from that so now they can wait.

Wassssssssssssssup? you not undersatnd the meaning of bump ed?or understand the part list off creditors like a yellow pages??or sccruples.morals??or is it the admin or liquidation part??mmmmm or mabe pars lol....or simply pr spin...stevo {Ed001's Note - sorry, I only understand English, it would be nice if you could use it.}

Well said they were quick enough to shaft us so they can wait,charging for match that was abandoned stinks so this is called karma.

29 Mar 2012 12:25:00
Not sticking up for Lennon far from it , but really ? Is there NOTHING you can say to a ref these days, remember 'big dick' in his hay day going off on one, souness, strachan, I would say there is quite a list worse than lemon, but yea we've had the "respect" thing since then so rules are different I suppose, but what I do think an it has nothing to do with Lennon is that refs think they are ARCHIE an can effect the outcome of FINALS and SEASONS (member 98) and be non accountable !
Paul(anyone seen les on these pages recently)RFC

Refs are getting tougher for sure. You can understand why, with all the chat about decisions going the wrong way. It doesn't matter whether the manager is correct or not, the point is that the ref has sole responsibility for applying the rules. If managers don't like that then the rules of footy need to be renegotiated.

If I tell my kids off and I'm wrong and see it ...... I still wont back down! gees, its a matter of discipline ffs. How many decisions have gone agains other clubs, us included! Players and managers lose it now and again for sure, sometimes justified, sometimes not. But the constant petulance and from Mr Lennon agressive approach is just wrong plain and simple. Whether you have a point - being a twit and spitting the dummy puts you in the wrong. A few prima dona players and managers just need to grow up! LB

Really mate , when I give my son a row for something he hasn't done , I feel terrible an the first thing I do is say "sorry son".. "it's called discipline" , your a nutter mate!
PaulRFC

@3
Yes, I think refs (or their association) would do well to review matches in hindsight. Not to change results but to acknowledge their (genuine) mistakes.

29 Mar 2012 12:00:11
Brian Kennedy complaining process taking too long despite his cash offer reportedly only being third best and with Whyte refusing to sell to Blue Knights under any circumstance, that leaves Club 9 Sports are most likely front runner from Administrators and CVA point of view.

Seriously Craig Whytes going down the right road to getting a new "contract".... An it ain't the sort you can negotiate !
Paul(C4 should do the trick)RFC

Admin have rejected Brian Kennedy's bid.

source bbc sport website

quabba

Liquidation is the answer. A new Rangers FC will be able to negotiate its way back in to the SPL far easier than any of the D&P/CW discussions about CVAs and takeovers which still leave the club open to all kinds of litigation (look at Portsmouth, arguably a similar club, to see the results of messy takeovers).

29 Mar 2012 11:03:43
Hope none of the supporters are
taken in by Martin Bains statement.
He walked away and took plenty from
your club. Keep that in mind.

If your going to try an use the "walk away" phrase then use it right mate , Bain was actualy FORCED out, so stop trying to be smart eh ?
PaulRFC

He walked mate and try as you might to
defend him he abandoned the support

3) No. he was forced out he was suspended with no possibility of return. Really having seen what Whyte is like do you really believe he would have allowed him back?

GovanFR

29 Mar 2012 10:47:16
Well...Well...Welll.
Looks like Lenny Bhoy's been telling lies.
The Sun 29/3/12 - Robert Grieve:
Calum Murray claims Neil Lennon told him to 'get a f*****g grip' in their Old Firm tunnel bust-up at Ibrox. Murray opted to take action because Brines told him Lennon continually stepped out of line throughout the first half. He and Murray also faced each other in the referee's room before the start of the second half, where another exchange took place before the Celts boss was told he was banned from the touchline for the rest of the game. Lennon insisted in the after-match press conference that he did NOT swear during his conversation with the match ref. But that version of events is different to the two accounts filed by Murray and Brines. It's understood Rangers staff were present and will back up the officials report. Well, Well.. Well... Just like Neilly bhoy said.."It'll all come out in the wash"
Stevie-A-Bear

It disny matter what the ref says stevie.....lennon has a witness lol. how bad did that sound "i never raised my voice or swore at the ref....i have a witness" cudny make this stuff up.
j1985

There you go again. Lennon is always in the wrong according to you lot. Hope you
saw the picture of Brines with his finger in Neils face.

Is that really ALL Lennon said ? That's nothing mate , I've seen players give refs more abuse than that an not even get booked before!
Paul(wishing he was back on his 20s)RFC

The hatred shown to Lennon is a disgrace. And as PaulRFC says, even if that is what he said, big deal! The guy is just trying to do his job and look after his team in a way that any fan would want. We have bigger problems without this irrational.....and bigoted hatred of Lennon.
Bri1872

@bri1872 at what point did any of the posters above make a biggoted comment about lennon?
Gazza72

Sort of missing the point lads.
My post has got nothing to do with hatred. It's about facts. NL was on tv telling everybody that would listen including his own fans that hang on his every word that...
"My sending off was a joke"
"I never swore"
"I wasn't allowed to do my job properly" because he wasn't allowed to sit in the stand
He never made it clear that it was his own security that took this decision,therefore inferring that it was Rangers officials who banished him,it wasn't. Then we had the "Sums things up in this country" statement.
@Paul RFC. I wasn't sure if you were being sarcastic or not about " is that ALL" But according to reports, that wasn't all that was said. Robert Grieve also said that NL was not reported for swearing.
Daily mail reporting that he is facing charges of " ‘dissent, the adoption of aggressive behaviour towards a match official and the repeated use of offensive, abusing and insulting language’ during the Old Firm derby. So that is not ALL mate. Stevie-A-Bear

Rangers staff back up ref,who would have thought it,i can,t say what happened as i was,nt there,but stevie a bear apparently was.garlar07

Nah mate calm down , I wasn't having a go at your post , an I wasn't been sarcastic man, if there was more abuse fair do , Lennon would appear to be lying , I was getting more at refs because I think THEY get away to easily,
PaulRFC

Maybe he is being reported for not swearing and thus letting the ref down,garlar07

Bigoted hatred??

This is a shocking statement to make. I like many fellow Rangers fans DISLIKE Lennon for footballing reasons and his attitude. Nothing to do with religion at all, but guys like you come on here and because we discuss a matter involving your manager you drag us back years with this bigotry s##te!! Get a grip pal, the majority of fans on both sides of the Old Firm want to flush out bigotry but with an attitude like yours i wonder if we will ever achieve this.

J1985

29 Mar 2012 10:26:51
Come on lads……………..

We need to get a new owner on board, I for one don’t really give a rats a**e about Europe 2012 - 13
Ed.. what clout-say dose Mr McNasty Whyte have! Dose he have the final say, I wouldn’t have thought he would have any legal claim, some one needs to be taking this bandit to task. {Ed001's Note - he has 85% of the shares, he will, at the very least, have a vote, but it depends on the make up of the board now. The administrators have limited powers to force through a sale, that was why they attempted to prove Whyte was not the legal owner, as they would then have been able to force through a sale. Whyte still has a lot of say in Rangers' future.}

Ed why was whyte allowed to borrow from ticketus before he had control of rangers? If any of us wanted to secure a loan against a house that we were close to buying but didn't actually own it couldn't happen. am i missing something here??
J1985 {Ed001's Note - the question is whether he did borrow it from them prior to taking control, or if he had made an agreement to loan money after he took control. Both parties say it was the latter.}

Worth taking a glance at Liverpool where the controlling shareholders could not prevent a sale of their club. I would say Whyte's position is weaker than teirs was. {Ed001's Note - that was down to the make up of the board, there were 5 executive members with voting rights, so the shareholders were simply outvoted.}

29 Mar 2012 09:00:28
Can anyone confirm if tickets for the legends game are available right up until kick off?

29 Mar 2012 08:10:43
No matter what happens to us, the scottish game needs to change. I have a couple of friends that are Dundee Utd fans, and they cant be bothered with the league other than getting top 6. Our league is very poor very very poor. I would so much rather start a season with 5-6 teams gunning for 1st place rather than sitting back sayin will it be us or celtic. I think fans will start supporting english teams soon. Whats the point in a league where your team has almost nothing to play for. Fair enough there are say 6 big teams in england, but the so called smaller teams still have some amazing players in them and play stunning football. what do the small teams up here have? what do we have for that matter. I love my team but our league is going down hill fast we need a change. And to all those people that think the league will die without us. dont talk rubbish. its already dead. It would just become harder to fix. Who is going to watch a league where one team win every year?
Don

Think your too late about young folk supporting english teams - - my son plays regularly with approx 15 -20 regulars and they all wear man u, liv, arsenal, chelsea tops
I have often offered to take him to Ibrox as his mother and i are season ticket holders. the general consensus amongst his mates is that scottish football is crap & he wouldn't waste his time
but then again he comes from a generation, where playing for trophies was frowned upon and everybody had to have a fully certified SFA coach to run under 10's upwards - that worked!!

And how is the Scottish league different from any other league in Europe
you could probaly name right now at least 16 teams (at least) from around Europe who will be in NEXT years Champions League - Teams in England are quite happy to finish top 4 = big pay day & its the same in Spain Italy Germany etc

Agree. The OF has no choice but stay in Scotland (although I would like to see them in England!) and they will have to agree a more equitable sharing of the spoils. If they don't agree then the other ten should resign as they threatened to do several years ago. The OF then made threatening noises about leaving Scotland so the other ten chickened out. Now, however the OF have nowhere to run so I hope they realise this and play fair.

Rangers will go into liquidation anyway so the problem will resolve itself!

29 Mar 2012 03:45:11
Andy Geggan at ayr utd to rangers this summer great player could be brilliant at ibrox the guys a die hard rangers fan come on ally get this guy signed up or even looked at least

Doh, can't sign anyone whilst in Admin!

Once out of admin