Rangers Banter Archive February 02 2017

02 Feb 2017 21:24:58
A lot of people on here wanting warburton to walk i think he will get to the end of the season at least then the board will reavaulate the situation then we might still finish second good run in the cup you never know I do worry about the away games I still think investment is needed I do believe these things come to a head in the end either the board can't take us forward or the management team can't either can be replaced

02 Feb 2017 22:10:08
Warburton should be put on gardening leave

02 Feb 2017 22:27:46
The problem we have got is not only are we skint Celtic are the richest they've ever been in they're history. doesn't matter who manager is he's pissing against the wind if there's no investment.

02 Feb 2017 22:31:55
With a bit of luck this rumoured investment will happen and he will not be the only one to walk! Right now he should replace Weir with a guy that can coach the defence and teach aggression!

02 Feb 2017 22:34:12
@stewie25 - and who's your shout to take over?

02 Feb 2017 23:02:37
i would give McLeish the job till the end of the season

03 Feb 2017 08:33:22
McLeish really? what has he done since leaving us?

03 Feb 2017 09:03:28
Jaws

Although it's clear Celtic are cash rich it's not as if Rodgers has spent a ridiculous amount this season. He spent £3m on Sinclair and £500k on Dembele at the start of the season however when you look at their team there is 8 or 9 players regularly playing that were there before him. The difference is he is a far better manager/ coach than Warburton and has brought out the best in players like Brown, Armstrong and Rogic. His 2 summer signings have been sensational while most of ours have been shocking

03 Feb 2017 09:28:50
Stewie, a English Championship player will usually walk it up here, Sinclair and Dembele are top championship players which you would expect to walk the scottish league. Rodgers hasn't got Celtic playing sensational, he has them playing how they should with the quality they have.

03 Feb 2017 09:41:49
Bang on stewie! Coaching is about getting the best out of players! Warbs said it himself budgets don't win matches! No one is going to tell me that celtic have a squad of world beaters, they just have a manager who has brought them all together got they fit and hungry and playing above themselves! Yes we need to add to our squad but we should be far more competitive regardless of who the manager fields they should be running ghrough brick walls flr rangers instead of that they look scared of their own shadow

03 Feb 2017 10:36:40
He has them playing well onlyshow, as you say as expected with what they have but, and i'm not being biased here, if half of that celtic team move on you will never hear of them again they are playing above themselves for the most part! The likes of forrest armstrong boyata mcgregor etc aren't great footballers they're just enjoying their football and on a high that is bringing the beat out of them! We need our manager to bring our group together and do the same

03 Feb 2017 16:34:18
Appointing mcleish is going back the way! IF warbs is to be replaced at the end of the season it has to be forward we look for our next manager. Both walter smith and alex mcleish were good managers for us but its in the archives now and that's where it should be left! They guys have had their day!

02 Feb 2017 20:25:57
Warburton can't see the problem - "we have no problems with "big" away games".

Remembering the 4 away losses last season to Hibs & Falkirk he has lost 8 out of 8, given the four so far this season. Is he allowed to go for the "full set" ?

Are his overall results acceptable - can we wait until they are?

Any other manager in the history of the club with such a record would have been sacked by now ?

He has run out of ideas (if he had any) and Weir is not a coach he must preside over the worst defence in the history of the club.

02 Feb 2017 22:16:07
I can't remember another Rangers manager with such a shocking record against the bigger teams. 8 played 8 lost is a disgrace and let's be honest do we expect anything from Celtic park and to a lesser extent pittodrie. For
Him then to try and downplay such a shocking record embarrassing and shows he still doesn't get what being a Rangers manager is

02 Feb 2017 22:50:53
That is only because McCoist and McDowall never came up against any! He couldn't beat teams like Alloa!

Warburton's problem is that no one has a winning mentality and Weir included don't seem to understand what it means to play for Rangers. As for Halliday he is a disgrace to the jersey

02 Feb 2017 18:44:39
We should be buying the best players in Scotland instead of wasting it on dumplings from down south. Walker, Nicholson to name a few. At least we know they can perform up here. That 2nd half last night was so embarrassing it was untrue. I even woke up this morning and thought to myself at first " did I dream that happened last night !" Shocking ! No warriors in the team whatsoever!

02 Feb 2017 18:56:22
Totally agree mate they where taking the piss out of us in the end up. I'm not saying it's right but not one
Person smashed any players . Nobody shown hurt . It kills me to say but there captain last night led by example . we have no winners . I don't look at any players in that team and see passion. Even today's interview with warburton he was so defensive . Didn't like the questions getting asked . It hurts . Forever a bluenose though. 🇬🇧

02 Feb 2017 19:19:22
I agree with you didn't see any fighters out there few felt the pain the fans are feeling the managers interviews are a joke same old rubbish comes out look at his signings the last three windows have been poor that defence is shocking I just can't see the manager survive this

02 Feb 2017 19:54:10
None of them pass marks last night alnwick needs to start on Saturday in my opinion

02 Feb 2017 20:43:13
The players that need dropping are Halliday and Kiernan and that has been the case all season. The goalie is getting the blame because he had a shaky game but he saved us from a worse defeat and it was Halliday's fault at the goal.

02 Feb 2017 21:55:13
This has been a problem in Scottish football for years, lambert Motherwell. The 2 young boys at Hamilton. Robertson dundee united.
Celtic to a certain extent have tried it the last few year with Armstrong, Christie makay Steven, is it bad scouting or just scared to take a chance on these young guys.

02 Feb 2017 22:08:23
Always blue and always will be. But this was coming from the tail end of last season. Everyone can see where the problems lie, defence shocking defensive mid worse than shocking and forwards that couldn't score in a barrell of fa****es.
I would never profess to be a football manager, but Warburton now looks like Delilah from last year.
Don't know where it's coming from as we have no money and no investment and running at a loss, but we need something soon before even the real bears turn rabid!

03 Feb 2017 10:15:08
I get the arguments for kiernan and Tav and I totally agree with them but you can't make any case for Fod either, this he kept us from a happening talk is p1sh a keeper is there to make saves that's his job. I for 1 have never been convinced by him. Gilks is / was a far better keeper all round and had a better influence on his central defence pairing. He wasn't given a fair cracking of the whip. As for kiernan how is he still getting a game, I know senderos had a shocker against THEM but why has he not had a sniff since. Tavernier should be no where near a starter when Hodson is fit he's a million miles better at full back and again a better influence on the center pairing. I'm not for sacking the manager but he needs to wake up and stop playing the favourites game he should be playing players in form or at least recognising players OUT of form . Bringing back BIG EK would be a step back onto the dark ages we need to move forward. He did a job for us at the time but NO thanks, let's back the manager and not turn into a braying mob looking for OUR managers head on a pike.

02 Feb 2017 16:39:33
I was starting to get excited last week with some of football and Hyndman in particular was quality in Motherwell game but I cannot fathom how we go from that decent performance to disaster. No consistency, heart nor confidence. We went awol full second half last night. No way we are paying MW nor DW off the payroll. MW still doesn't know his starting 11. Don't think Toral is fit but that will come and also Halliday and Tav shouldn't be near team.

02 Feb 2017 17:15:31
Halliday and Tav shouldn't be near the team yes. but I would say Keirnan is the first that has to be dropped. Awful football player.

02 Feb 2017 18:12:18
Wizard11 I agree mate. Haliday and tav are non existant in too many games imo. Warburton has to sort the defence out man. It was hard work watching that crap last night. Fingers crossed it's better on Saturday eh

02 Feb 2017 18:33:13
Halliday and tav, no kieran, plus others, Tav was better than many last night but regardless it is always him. And ready for abuse for this but if the 6ml talk was correct re mckay i would have broke their wrist grabbing it, flatters beats one, turns back, passes back, shirks every 50/ 50,

02 Feb 2017 19:03:39
The guys your all talking about are Undroppable maybe they have a MCCulloch contract and can't be dropped Christ they don't even get subbed the defence us rank rotten and still get subs midfield an forwards!

02 Feb 2017 19:58:45
McCulloch didn't make a quarter of the mistakes Kiernan has made and for all his limitations he would never have thrown in the towel as easily as the team did last night. Listening to Warburton today he clearly still doesn't get it. Losing 4-1 to Hearts is bad enough but the way the team collapsed and gave up is unacceptable.

02 Feb 2017 20:09:07
Tavernier was better than Wallace, Halliday and Kiernan and for me, Wallace gets an easy ride from the support when he is a hopeless captain and a pretty poor defender. Going forward he is good but we don't have a decent quality full back on the books!

02 Feb 2017 20:20:58
Tomusa
Agree Wallace is never a captain no fight or passion from him

Stewie25
I'm not questioning McCulloch only his Undroppable contract that everyone seems to have forgotten maybe the defence have one of these contracts as well as they never get subbed!

02 Feb 2017 22:22:51
Bongo

Never said you were was just making a point that McCulloch got booed and he didn't nearly as many mistakes as Kiernan and he never ever gave up something too many of our players did last night

02 Feb 2017 22:57:36
McCulloch on his day was a good quality midfield player and he worked his socks off in a Rangers jersey. We criticised him but he would have gone through a brick wall for the Club. Halliday isn't fit to call himself a Rangers man and he couldn't lace McCulloch's boots.

03 Feb 2017 15:03:07
Halliday will be his first pick on Saturday. Clueless

03 Feb 2017 15:48:09
Still absolutely devastated at the way our team played. I've backed warburton all the way but now I'm struggling even to listen to his interviews after the games we loose ( we shall learn from this) .

I personally think the job is to big for him and as for David Weir who was a top class defender not to notice our defence is a total shambles and should have been addressed after the cup final is beyond me! McFarland has failed in my eyes as well a supposedly super scout but him and warburton have brought nothing but rubbish from the low leagues of England.

I've been going to Rangers game since I was 3 year old and have had a season ticket for 16 years and Totally love my club it's getting to the stage how much more you can take of this nonsense!

02 Feb 2017 16:00:51
I got to laugh at the "next" manager names being flung about. Not a chance will we atttact a De Boer or Laudrup..
I'd go with Jim Duffy & Barry Ferguson who wouldn't cost us much and know the Scottish game.
But more importantly .. we can't afford to sack MW and the back room staff !!

02 Feb 2017 16:08:21
Now i'm laughing at you jim duffy and bazza lol

02 Feb 2017 17:13:47
Nic we have no cash and can't afford to sack MW.
The names put about on here are names that we used to be able to attract! Would need to be a diehard to take this squad on and to work with zero cash.
Who would you suggest Nic?

02 Feb 2017 18:18:01
Yeah I get it we can't attract anyone top drawer but we can do better than jim duffy and barry! i'm not calling to sack warburton for the fact we can't afford but I will tell you one thing he is not the man to turn it around the players look as if they have lost intrest, how any coach can't have players fit and up for a match is baffling me! Realistically I can't see him being inplace at start of next season and his replacement will depend on how things go behind scene regards court cases etc but unless we have injection of cash were looking at tommy wright or the likes and i'd be happy enough

02 Feb 2017 19:05:16
I'll chuck derek adams into the ring aswell done well with county and plymouth would like him to have had some experience at a bigger club but he knows the league and is surely a realistic target regards salary and working with limited funds

02 Feb 2017 19:48:59
Scotty123,
I disagree mate I think rangers can't afford not to sack the management team. If we perform like that any more then we can kiss goodbye to any sort of European qualifiers for next season. It was shameful and so were Warburtons comments.

02 Feb 2017 20:12:05
That would be the market we would be looking at defo. Wright and Adams are decent shouts but are they much different to Duffy whose working wonders at Morton and is well respected in Scottish game? I seriously think him and Barry Ferguson would be a good team and Baz could learn so much from Duffy.
Can seriously forget a top European manager until decent cash is available and that won't be until Ashley contracts expire.
We will have MW till end of season at least.

02 Feb 2017 22:53:35
I just don't think barry is a manager!? And duffy, maybe i'm wrong but when we used to play against his teams in the past, he kicked every ball and when his team went to piggery you wouldn't know he was there!

02 Feb 2017 22:43:46
@scotty123 - aye because BF is working wonders at Clyde! Give me strength!

02 Feb 2017 23:06:27
If MW goes before end of season then Morton and Clyde wouldn't be hard to deal with and I believe they would install some much needed fight. Others would require compensation.
Maybe your right about Barry mate but he'd certainly kick a few arses and let some know that they just ain't at it.
Maybe Smith or Souness would take team to end of season but I just can't see it unless Souness mate is going to invest.

03 Feb 2017 15:30:31
that's all we can afford lol.

I think warbs is asking for the criticism he is getting by not playing more in the middle of the park where we are being outnumbered by every team we play.

his tactics need a lot of work and he needs to start listening to the fans .

also when the best defender you have in your squad is the slowest in the league u need to ask yourself what's happening there surely we could have brought in a couple of defenders as Kiernan is the worst in the league and hill is the slowest.

Kiernan was responsible for at least 2 of the goals last night and halliday was dire aswell yet they insit on playing them both. okay halliday is a good player but only in his own position not a defensive player at all

03 Feb 2017 15:34:51
garner 1.8 million ohallaran 500k
Rossiter 500k doodoo 250k that's over 3 million and that doesn't include signing on fees for rest players and the wages all these players are on the names mentioned in the pool are the type of managers that we should be aiming for and they certainly will improve us and maybe even some of the players that are hear already
the likes of jim duffy barry ferguson will not cut it we need up our game big time and if king doesn't want to invest he should step aside and let other do so

02 Feb 2017 15:37:42
How's about tommy wright for our manager,his team over achieve and are solid,go to parkhead and compete,very astute tactically with low budget,right where we are just now,can't be any worse than MW who doesn't see what required to not lose goals or score many at the other end.obsessed with midfielders who can't penetrate,like majority of gers fans I'm frustrated with warbs tactics and inability to drop players,goalie,tav,keirnan,Halliday,who will all prob start again on sat!!!!

02 Feb 2017 16:09:30
Sorry why does Foderingham deserve the drop - he has been (Miller aside) our best performer this season.

02 Feb 2017 16:14:46
Foderingham was absolute heart attack material last night i would start Alnwick next match, seriously

02 Feb 2017 16:40:42
He had one where he came for a cross and missed (goal)
One he took a heavy first touch.

Overall he has done nothing to deserve being dropped

More over for a keeper that 98% of the fan-base know nothing about.

Our biggest flaw is our formation and selection of Kiernan and Halliday. Tav played okay for me last night, Toral looked a little leggy still - but early days for him to be judged.

The issue is, dropping Kiernan - who comes in? Senderos and Hill would be far too slow.
Bates is untried, Wilson is in and out with injury.

02 Feb 2017 17:13:09
I think a problem being over looked is taht our midfield have no confidence in our defence and spent much of their time trying to protect it which is detremental to our attacking options.

Every manager knows you build from the back, make us hard to beat then the rest will follow, the midfield know if they push on to score then we can get ripped apart at the back.

I all for playing out form the back and possession football, but firstly you need the players and secondly sometimes you just have to put your foot through it and clear your lines!

02 Feb 2017 17:18:46
If Bates is a worse football player than Keirnan then he should never have been signed.

02 Feb 2017 17:26:44
StefReid. our midfield "spend much of their time trying to protect" our defence. Really?!

02 Feb 2017 20:13:41
Well Halliday sure doesn't protect the defence. He is a major liability and part of the problem!

02 Feb 2017 20:59:45
Blue blazer, keirnan has been a liability since he came, cup final v hubs, the list goes on, I would rather play bates instead, keirnan is not going to get any better, should have been sent off against well for stupid tackle on half way line, can't give him a positive, but our manager and supporters have seen this for 18 months.

03 Feb 2017 15:36:15
for me the drop should come to waggy halliday Kiernan (ma gran could defend better than him )

but we are stuck for options in defence as Wilson isn't much better than Kiernan but for me its a no brainer if he wants to play waggy then why doesn't he p[lay the goalscorer through the middle where he belongs beside miller and have 4 supporting players in windass Hyndman forrester and rossiter sitting behind them when fit and a back four of whoever as it doesn't matter who we go with we have 0 quality in that area

03 Feb 2017 15:07:11
Blueblazer, Bates will always be untried until we try him.

02 Feb 2017 14:40:13
Don't understand how people can take positives about us still being second, second in a shite league, the lowest we'll finish would be 4th and that's with a team of nobody's, I don't think Warburton is the answer, but again who would want the job the now, just after transfer window and team is so poor. Not a Rangers team

02 Feb 2017 16:02:13
The positives are pretty obvious to me!

1 We are second in the league immediately after promotion despite little investment in the team that won us the Championship and promotion
2 We are solvent which considering our ongoing losses and recent history is a huge plus point
3 We have a manger who has a vision for the club in the future - hence persevering with a style of play and inducting the youth teams in the same style rather than solely worrying about the next result

Of course there are also negatives
We are performing poorly on the pitch but so long as we are second by the end of the year we will have a bit more cash to improve for next year

Alternatives
Plenty of folk on here are quick to criticise and point out the negatives but I rarely see any constructive alternatives being put forward that are based on reality

We could try to borrow £50m and we might win the league next year but we have learned that that is not a viable option even if we could raise the debt

We could all get down on our knees and pray for a fairy godmother or sugardaddy to smother us in riches and precocious talent with Pep or Jose to boot

I just don't see any short term fixes - whilst depressed about some of our performances and results, I firmly believe that we are on the best available trach to restore the club to the position it should be in.

02 Feb 2017 16:35:57
1. Only second because we have played a game more. Realistically we are 3rd behind a team with a fraction of our budget and in danger of slipping further at this rate.

2. Solvent but not self sufficient.

3. We have a manager with no clue. He "preserves" our style of play because he doesn't know how to change it.

02 Feb 2017 17:12:46
Couldn't have put it better lwdawson

02 Feb 2017 17:31:18
Why this obsession with money and being 2nd? We're so far bend 1st place it's an embarrassment! Our manager is inept, he's not a winner, he has constructed a team of lightweights who are not good enough! With the exception of Miller not one of them deserves to wear a Rangers shirt (MacKay still to prove his worth)

02 Feb 2017 18:20:26
Still no alternative route put forward though?

Come on gosman and iwdawson, you can be negative all day long but you need to think hard about a better solution.

There is no fairy godmother or sugardaddy waiting in the wings with a blank cheque

Pep, Jose, DeBoer etc are way above our pay potential

We have no money to invest in £5m players (who would not want to play in Scotland anyway)

Let me see your alternatives.

02 Feb 2017 21:30:22
Find a manager who'll look at our squad and play to their strengths, not one who'll try force a philosophy onto players who don't have the ability to pull it off.

03 Feb 2017 15:42:36
ive spat the dummy out and I've joined the negative nellys for a while as I think the style he is playing is great if you have the quality to play it but we don't and without serious investment we will never have it under his reign.

if u see from last year we had a poor defence he didn't do anything about it in the summer when he should have but okay he was concentrating on the middle of the park which last year was our strongest part!

then to have no defenders in the January after abysmal performances all season is just unacceptable.
there Is the reason I have spat the dummy

02 Feb 2017 13:57:03
Do you think we should give king his 1.5 million he is looking for to walk away and try for sounds and the rugby guy that wanted in the last time?

02 Feb 2017 14:11:17
The sooner King is gone the better for me, hopefully replaced by someone we can actually believe whenever he says anything.

02 Feb 2017 14:20:50
last time we had the canadian and then the american, both of whom had loads of the necessary, they received crazy abuse from many fans, ''not Rangers men'' etc. And look at what we were landed with, so let's hope if real cash guys did appear they do not get any more of that crap.

02 Feb 2017 13:39:13
Kirk broadfoot would walk into this team and be the best player.

03 Feb 2017 16:17:10
Sad thing is that's true. Jeffers would even get a game

02 Feb 2017 13:03:53
It's gone lunchtime now and I can't believe there is no news from rangers confirming warburtons departure honestly I have now lost faith in everything that is going on at ibrox it actually makes me wonder if anyone higher up gives a toss.

02 Feb 2017 13:50:09
Of course they give a toss, remember they are rangers fans to, so I would imagine they are hurting also, as they appointed the gaffer, so if it doesn't work then it's on them as they made the decision, were all hurting

02 Feb 2017 14:26:02
Southside - you can't possibly for a minute expect the board to release a coaching team that would cost Millions to pay off - then in addition replace them with who, that, on a similar budget, could do much better.

Last night was a shambles - I genuinely think the worst performance in my time as an attending fan (15 years)

The board are pretty tied up at this point. The club continues to run at a loss - we can't generate any more income (except through season ticket price hikes or transfers)
Ashley's greasy grip is still around our throat and the board are essentially working as a life support machine until the cancer is cut out.

People hark on about King's (rather stupid) £30 million quote. He is in no position to plough that into the club at the moment when he has no real footing in the club - one swing of votes would have him ousted from power.

Our pressing off field issue is to sort out this AShley/ Sports Direct issue.

On the field, that is an entirely different challenge.
Our squad SHOULD be capable of COMFORTABLY delivering second place - at the moment that looks a stretch. We then have to assume that either the players don't like MW, his tactics or genuinely aren't good enough. I believe it has the be the tactics.

I have said this since October 2015 - we are predictable, our selections deplorable, and he has now run out of excuses so goes with the I don't know approach.

I don't claim to be a tactical genius but this formation is not suited to our players or this league and until MW changes - we will be having more of the same.

He has a bigger wage budget, he has spent more than the rest of the league (bar Celtic) combined on transfers - HE is the issue.

03 Feb 2017 14:14:57
Sensible post, blueblazer, there are issues here that are outwith our control. However, the playing side is something the club does control and it is a disaster. Warburton repeatedly stated that he was bringing in players to improve them and turn them into assets for the club, but how many players have actually improved under his tutelage? None, I believe.

I am positive that we have some decent players here, the problem lies with the tactics, coaching and motivation, and another manager would be able to get far more out of them, improve them, inspire them and instill in them what it takes not only to be a top professional, but to be one at Rangers.

For a manager to admit after an embarrassing defeat that he doesn't know what went wrong is an admission of defeat and he should grab his jacket and leave.

02 Feb 2017 11:17:10
Ed with all due respect put this up please its about time sum gers fans need reality check and grip, i'm sick hearin gers fans sayin derek mcinnes or tommy wright etc aren't good enough? Blow me out they 2 would make huge differece to rangers more than the same old borin warburton fact, why they have done well at there current clubs on less budget for start so wot would they do if they were at us? With bigger budget now let's get real here when we went for big eck from hibs not every bear was excited but he won same amount of trophies as martin o'neil so why can't mcinnes or even wright not come and do same some us fans need reality check we aren't going to get a mourinho etc so forget about top class manager right now i'm bein serious, brendan rodgers started off at we clubs before he got his big job at bigger clubs you have to start some where FACT but tell you now i would have mcinnes or big tommy wright any day of the week, month, year instead that clueless jerk who keeps playin rob kiernan worst defender to wear the famous blue red n white since karl svensson and that's why we will not progress any further at least under delboy or wrighty kiernan wouldn't be playin and they no how to change a game and they BOTH know how to win in scotland both have good record against warburton i'm affraid sad but true. He has to go soon why would any manager worth there salt keep playin same dross and rubbish every week is he scared to drop his favs halliday n kiernan as long as they play we will not get any better there simply not good enough for us

02 Feb 2017 11:28:40
And what do you know about football, you couldn't stop going about how we should sign o, halloran, how he's some player, better than we have, well guess what, he's been crap, I can't defend last night, but what makes you think you know how to run rangers better, i hate losing but I, ll still back the board and the club

02 Feb 2017 12:18:52
O'Halloran has not been given a run in his right position.

Delboy your comment is ludicrous. What do you know about football? The Club are being ran into the ground and the board are nowhere to be seen. Celtic will win ten-in-a-row if there's no major changes. Get your head out of the sand.

02 Feb 2017 12:44:37
It, s all well saying Warburton should be sacked, how much do yous think it would cost Rangers to sack him, along with his backroom staff.

02 Feb 2017 13:09:39
Zandermac, probably somewhere between £3-£4million. Not something we can afford to do.

02 Feb 2017 13:14:37
Who cares I would pay 2m to get rid of Warburton! He would however be a fraction of that.

02 Feb 2017 13:41:41
Spoc you would be surprised but I know a fair bit about football, I'm one of those fans that hates giving the club stick, it's just the way I am, I know our defence is shocking, I don't understand why he's never sorted it out, or the def mid that we are crying out for, maybe he has tried but he can't get the players he wants, and would rather wait to get the right players in, or maybe we just don't have any money, I just get annoyed when I come onto a rangers fans website and you would think it was other fans posting, not our own, I just get behind them during good times and the bad, it's just the way I am, but if these performances keep happ then the gaffer will be sacked as the fans will make sure he's gone.

02 Feb 2017 10:53:58
Last night was a complete shambles and being honest we were lucky to get anything from the previous 2 games against well. I've always been an admirer of MW philosophy on the game, however, it just isn't suited to our Scottish game where teams sit in against us and press the right areas.
The question is guys Who do we bring in ?? Let's be realistic here with suggestions.. Smith, McLeish to steady the ship.. no thanks.. McInnes.. no thanks .. Davies.. haha really ?? And De Boer brothers or Laudrups.. we have no cash to attract that calibre.
So who do we attract with the cash we have at disposal and current squad???

03 Feb 2017 14:20:43
Here's a left-field one, the man credited with Leicester's mercurial rise, Nigel "take no shit" Pearson.

02 Feb 2017 09:57:23
All this stuff about taking care of young players, Hyndman is a USA full international and head and shoulders above the rest of them and he takes him off. Warbs treats it like they are a boy scout team and he is the overgrown boyscout leader with the toggle round his neck,
he probably has them round the camp fire singing songs and telling ghost stories as they scoff their beans and sausages.

02 Feb 2017 16:09:28
Its about time he taught them the songs of ulster and our glorious past, that's what's missing from rangers now fire and passion.

02 Feb 2017 09:27:26
Watched that on TV last night,the commentators were right, we were a shambles. I have been in favour of giving warbs a chance, but it was obvious 18 months ago that the defence was the weak point and nothing has changed. They started like it was a training kick about, no pace, not trying to pass forwards, and the same players making the almighty cock-ups. If warbs can't see it then god help us, we'll be lucky to get 3rd at this rate

02 Feb 2017 08:59:34
Worst performance in 50 years.Disgrace.
Hearts played well and deserved victory.Fitter, stronger, more tactically aware, skillful and determined.
Not sure where we go from here tbh

My points are

Warbs way out his depth. The job is too big for him

Mourhino Wenger or Conte could not do any better with this squad.

Keirnan should never wear a Rangers jersey again.

Secure 2nd place, appoint Frank De Boer in summer and give him some cash

Hope Warbs cancels training today, make entire first team squad watch video rerun of the game.

True sign of madness is doing the same things over and over and expecting different results. Time for profound change

02 Feb 2017 09:21:53
Barcabear

Yes those 3 managers could do better as they wouldn't pick the same players who make the same mistakes. In fact they wouldn't have assembled such a useless squad in the first place

02 Feb 2017 09:31:18
What cash? I see this way too often about give the manager cash. WE HAVE NONE. That is why we aren't signing players of "quality" we have no money, people seem to think on a freebie you just pay a wage, you don't. you have a signing on fee, Agent fee, possibly development fees. WE CAN'T AFFORD PLAYERS. Bring in De Boer, We couldn't afford him. We know our team is poor, but it's all that we could afford, do you think Warburton and weir have become poor due to the size of Rangers? Hell no. They done wonders at Brentford, Mcparland done wonders too, look at the players currently at Brentford and those who have been sold recently. This is a building process, Remember this, we are at a £6mil loss per year, we can't afford to pay signing on fees, agent fees and struggle to pay any sort of transfer fee. Did you all really think a bunch of players from League 1 and 2 would allow us to walk over all the teams in the SPFL and attempt to go for the title? Give the guy a bloody chance, he is in a position no other Rangers manager has been in, even during times of financial trouble we still put out £2/ 3 million for individual players. We are all allowed to be annoyed at results, we are Rangers fans after all, we expect more from our players, but we have never had players of such poor quality before. Judge Warburton when he has had money to spend.

02 Feb 2017 09:37:22
Barca bear have you actually read what you have written?
The managers you mention would have changed the shape and dropped the dead wood a long time ago .
Appoint De Boer and give him cash? We have no money and won't have any investor until Ashley deals are gone.
Cancel training? Have them in at 9 to watch the game again then have a full days training till 5 like the average working man with fitness and tactics a must!
I have always backed MW but I'm really struggling to find any positives at the minute.
His stubbornness will be his downfall and shape and personal must be changed

02 Feb 2017 09:48:44
See to be honest with you . A lot of you saying give the guy a chance etc . Listen as an example Celtic last few seasons where not great . They done poor in champions league and never won the treble while we where not there when that was there chance to do so . They bring in Rogers . A man who knows the game has experience at highest level. He doesn't get too many in and a lot are from previous year but what he does is still into them a work ethic, a hunger, an Aggresive pressing game and it's changed them into something good. Although they never won a game in Europe the supporters and players still done themselves proud. It was there manager that created this . There is a buzz around them. Now us right now we do not work hard off the ball. We have no leaders . We have no real defensive attributes. Our best players are Mckay and Miller who where already here . We really don't create a lot of chances . We are too slow in build up . Warburton has watched this time and time again. He had whole January to sort what we all knew we needed . His signings have done nothing . It's not just this year which has been heart breaking for me to watch but last part of last season also and it cost us cup final. Time to change the players aren't learning and the manager isn't learning .

02 Feb 2017 10:09:53
Scotty123.thats my point. Mourhino and Wenger would have indeed changed formations etc. Same outcome though. You can't take journeymen footballers, kids, rejects, loans and a few old pros and make a football team. I would make the team watch the game. then leave the room and let them sort it out. It could easily have beeen 9 or 10 - 1 . enough is enough. no more evolution. we need revolution.

02 Feb 2017 10:18:01
Are you kidding? How on earth can you think those managers wouldn't get better results. Good managers adjust their tactics and shape to cover their weaknesses. Our manager plays the same way every week exposing our flaws game after game.

02 Feb 2017 11:04:45
Best post I have seen on this site Alex 2305

02 Feb 2017 10:37:20
Alex2305, difference is Celtic were spending money during that time. Nothing like Warburtons position.

02 Feb 2017 16:20:25
Onlyshowaround i have just read your post defending warburton weir and mcpharland and can not believe you are saying give them more money.

Not in the month of sundays should he be giving more funds his time at rangers should have been up this morning after that shocking result

The brentford chairman wanted a change of direction with transfers going to foreign countries where you get better value for your money.

As for warburton he has stuck to the english market and look at what dross he has left rangers with now its going cost us to get rid of some these players that's how bad some are.

foreign countries like sweden denmark norway switzerland finland iceland slovakia belarus romainia austria and also all the african countries is where we should be looking for players and in scotland.

the reason we have got players of so bad quality is down to warburton plain and simple he bought these players to the club he was not forced to do so.

add up the sums he has spent on signing on fees development fees and wages and you will see he has had a fair amount to spend yet not many of the players are playing in firs team.

we would been better served bringing 3 4 players of quality and getting young players involved rather than waste the money like warburton has done he is not good enough to manage rangers and should be showing the door

02 Feb 2017 16:59:57
Onlyshow you are from a bygone era who believe you buy success , you don't you create it, you foster it, you teach it . If it was all about money why was your team, with by far the second biggest budget in Scotland, hammered by the team with the 4 th or 5th biggest budget? You are right give warbola a hundred million a he would get you success , but he would still be a very poor manager who bought success.

02 Feb 2017 17:06:57
Some managers are good at working with journeymen and get them playing to their full potential eg Neil Warnock and Tony Pulis. MW is not one of those and that is what is needed until we have more funds for players.
I believe in King but I think the non-paying costs and the extent of the dodgy deals have caught him on the hop.
If we went for McInnes it would cost us, he has no track record at the highest level, so wold we be better off?
It might screw up the sheep for this season but its not what wee need for the future.

02 Feb 2017 08:01:25
Warburton do the right thing and go your out your depth honestly stop putting us through this every week we have learned that you are not good enough and we also realise it you are not good enough and we will better for it when you go thanks for your time but honestly and go back down south your time is up here at the worlds most successful club

02 Feb 2017 09:46:23
Totally agree, plan A failed again, Keirnan a cert to start on Saturday no matter what. Started the game last night with no out-and-out striker and having a goal difference after 23 games of +6 is just not acceptable for Rangers. Totally pi**ed off at another inept performance and to add injury to insult Hearts will probably lose the next game. What is needed at Ibrox is an enema to clean the place out

02 Feb 2017 16:21:58
A manager to possibly replace warburton at the end of the season, that nobody seems to mention on here, nigel pearson! What about him fellow bears? He's the reason leicester city were successful as he completed all the ground work behind the scenes! Pearson can organise and motivate and is tactically astute!

02 Feb 2017 07:41:46
The inability to drop Kiernan & Halliday has cost us once again. The farcical comedy bloopers continue with no remorse. Each game when the team is announced and their names are read out everyone knows it is cerain a stromash will follow. Tripping over the ball, failing to know what is around, caught in possession constantly, failing to mark the man & the list goes on. The script can be written on here before it unfolds as it has become a regular cavalcade of whopping errors. The truth is the team can't be asked to perform knowing that these two liabilities are waiting to wreak havoc on their efforts through the 90. They can't be trusted with carrying out the staple duties of their position and have made Hearts look good, and in turn gave them confidence. Let's see how Warburton handles this on Sat. I can see fans staying away if changes are not made as it's a sure fire blunder fest when the duo play.

02 Feb 2017 06:53:31
"Let's wait to the end of the season"

A second place would cover up signing & performance errors or inadequates.

If the management is to be "replaced" surely a new manager must be given time for summer signings ?

Or do we get a new manager next season & a new team next January or summer 2018 after Celtic have racked up 7 in a run .

Then we will need a another new manager to stop Celtic rather than "wait" for the future!

Time passes quickly it will be 9 before we know it - we are "rubber ducked"

02 Feb 2017 07:52:19
No he has to go now need a new manager in to prepare for start of new season

02 Feb 2017 07:59:59
Who do we bring in? We don't have the money to attract a big name manager it will be another one like Warburton from the championship or lower.

02 Feb 2017 08:45:06
As long as Warburton is there Celtic will just keep racking up the titles with ease. This so called manager has no clue and thinks it's accepatable to be 25 points behind them in February. It's likely that they will win the league by 40+ points but to some on here like supercooper and James Stirling that's fine as they seem to think the team is a work in progress and they see signs of the team progressing. Supercoop is happy that players like tavernier, Kiernan and Halliday play week in week out and like Warburton they seem to miss their bad defending, atrocious passing and lack of ability

02 feb 2017 15:23:45
stewie25, i was one of the unfortunate rangers fans who was there sitting in the roseburn stand watching that performance last night! i'm big enough and ugly enough to come on here with my views! i never hide my friend. i've been going everywhere watching glasgow rangers for 42 years now!

i'll be there on saturday against ross county, supporting the team and the rangers manager! like i've said before we sit down and judge everything at the end of the season!

on to last night. i was totally pissed off as much as anyone and warburton of course has to shoulder part of the blame! our manager totally baffled me, when he took off our best player in young emerson hyndman!

a few things needs to happen on saturday. warburton has to now drop kiernan, tav and halliday or if he remains stubborn and loyal to these players, it will without question, cost him his job! there you have it stewie25! hope that is sufficient for you mate!

i never hide! i'm hurting a gers supporter this morning but i'll still be there supporting and backing my team on saturday, as per usual! what about you, will you be there on saturday? now common stewie25,don't hide and answer my question!

02 Feb 2017 06:27:18
Thats it folks mw and dw must go.how many times this season have we been lucky to come away with a win or draw.were anabsoloute shambles.everybody can see where we need to strenghen but he cant.mw must go.total loss of confidence in him now

02 Feb 2017 06:57:26
Get Big Eck in til the end of the season and take it from there. i wasnt a big fan of his 1st time around but he knows how to win as shown twice against the best selik team in 40yr

02 Feb 2017 08:00:31
Alex mcleish has failed everywhere since Scotland.

02 Feb 2017 08:44:03
Ascott with the way yours clubs ran its paul danniells yous need not eck any manager that takes that job needs there feeckin head examined talk about a poisoned chalice that's the harsh reality jist setting in now bears eh?

02 Feb 2017 09:26:21
Wee Craigy white

Paul Daniels has passed away so it's pretty poor stuff mentioning him in your cheap shot post

02 Feb 2017 10:15:29
Thats a dhim for u stewie25.as i said i'm not a big fan of his but he knows how to get results in Scotland and it would b just to steady the ship til May

02 Feb 2017 11:39:25
If warbs were to go and i'm still saying we should wait until the end of the season and then judge where we are, i don't want us looking back the way here to previous managers! I wouldn't want walter smith or alex mcleish back even as a temporary fix! We have to think out the box! We would have to appoint someone with a similar pedigree to brenda at celtic! We would need to make a big statement on who would be our next manager!

02 Feb 2017 00:43:17
I must agree with the majority of posts. I've tried to defend Warbs time after time but it time for change. 25 points behind on the 1st February is incomprehensible! It cannot go on! Back the guy or sack the guy! Unfortunately I think it's time to sack the guy

02 Feb 2017 00:37:48
I have defended MW. But I genuinely feel the time has come for him to go. Ian Cathro realise the squad he had needed new players around the the squad and Hearts with not much money got themselves 4/ 5 players. MW went after Oxford, so he saw we need someone in defence and when Oxford deal never happened he did nothing. MW has a fetish for midfielders ànd we get an average player in toral when we already have Forrester. the American lad does look great and I would be much happier if he was a bit and not a loan but I understand there is no money for players but why not do what the other mob done with Patrick Roberts and get him on an 18 month loan at least we could enjoy him for another season. Personally we need a full new defence and our current defence would be fairly good back ups. holiday needs sold. so a replacement for him. then we need a right winger and we need a goal scoring striker not a striker that gets stuck in or one that can play in other positions we need a fox in the box. Finally I think it's time for new coaching staff but DK must fund the departure of MW himself as he kept him hear. MW thank you for the promotion but it's time to got.

01 Feb 2017 23:26:18
Reason for having a go at garner is purely because he is not good enough. Okay the service has not been great but looking at the bigger picture here. It's not just tonight's performance it's the season in general. It's out of luck not skill that we are 2nd just now. To spend 1.8 million on a cf in the Scottish league is a lot of money. People who go on about buying Scottish players etc just look at where the national side is. We should be looking at eastern Europe for players. Mark Warburton is a youth coach not a first team coach. The players tonight bar hyndman and Miller - rest waste of time. Mckay I think will be better but is played out of position maybe played in the middle of a 4231 could be much better. Really we need 7 or 8 players. Not 30 million but 10 to compete. But Warburton is not the man. I won't be returning to ibrox until he is away and I hate not going. Not each garbage week in week out.

01 Feb 2017 23:26:18
Reason for having a go at garner is purely because he is not good enough. Okay the service has not been great but looking at the bigger picture here. It's not just tonight's performance it's the season in general. It's out of luck not skill that we are 2nd just now. To spend 1.8 million on a cf in the Scottish league is a lot of money. People who go on about buying Scottish players etc just look at where the national side is. We should be looking at eastern Europe for players. Mark Warburton is a youth coach not a first team coach. The players tonight bar hyndman and Miller - rest waste of time. Mckay I think will be better but is played out of position maybe played in the middle of a 4231 could be much better. Really we need 7 or 8 players. Not 30 million but 10 to compete. But Warburton is not the man. I won't be returning to ibrox until he is away and I hate not going. Not each garbage week in week out.