Rangers Banter Archive May 02 2012

02 May 2012 22:19:28
43,383? Good attendance tonight from the Teddy Bears. Don't do walking away? Don't do walking there either by the looks of Ibrox tonight. On the one night when one of the potential bidders was there too. He must be well chuffed seeing all those empty seats. It'll be making him believe he was right when he decided he wanted to liquidate Rangers.

FYI more people were at Ibrox tonight than were at champions league finallists Chelsea's game, i would say that not bad for a midweek game shown live on T.V.

Maybe if Celtic fans spent less time on Rangers sites talking about Rangers they might not have an average attendance thats 11,000 less than capacity.

For a team thats won the league that is shocking amount of empty seats.

Live on sky sports! And still pulled in 44000... I would say thats more than acceptable! Now jog on timmy...

No way was there 44000 in there.counting season books i think

No2,how many season ticket holders do rangers have?thought rangers fans where boycotting sky?

If this was nearly 44000 then Ibrox must hold about 100,000!!! Ranger fan who r we trying to kid !

Remind me, was it 9,000 at porkhead the night the fox ran onto the park before the wee Fergus took over?

What were septics hone attendances in Europe? Can anyone help? What were the numbers just before mobray got the bullet?

Celtic V Motherwell 2010 midweek game, april. Check the internet and the paper write ups 10000 which leaves around 50000 who couldnt be bothered to turn up. End of debate I think PB

The difference is Celtic arent on the brink of dissapearing with fans spouting "we dont walk away," every two minutes. Poor show.

Not really. The OP is talking about the fact that Rangers fans said they would pack Ibrox out till the end of the season, no matter what. Whether it's a midweek match or not, Rangers fans should be cramming into the place and making a lot of noise so that anyone thinking to invest sees the 'passion' you always talk about.

02 May 2012 21:30:38
well let down buy gers fans tonight , that turn out is a disgrace , no wonder everyone is laughing at us , bj

There was 43 000 at the game thats great for a mid week game what you talking about

Well it said 43,000 odds not bad for a game live on tv just remember some fans travel from along way and it is midweek doug

43000 at a meaningless midweek game? Not too bad IMO. CheltBlue

Were you at the game tonight? I doubt it very much. 42k for a midweek game thats televised is pretty good id say.

Midweek game, live on the tele, I'd stay at home too

Thought you wanted full houses in this time of need?

But your skint club needs the money! So much for the loyal fans who would fill ibrox in every game until the season ends! Poor show as usual

Ive a season book but i couldnt go tonight so they would probably count me ,t here was space for some tic fans to come and see how football should be played not stamping on other players feet from a certain tic player who shall remain nameless that came from hibs doug

@8;or big dopey bartley diving in and landing on his ass!

02 May 2012 21:26:04
"WE DONT DO WALKING AWAY" not going by ibrox tonight ,,,,explain?

Eh? 43000 mid week, on TV, no dough... Why are you a tos&er explain

BB

How about 43,000 explanations...

Open your eyes we can see tv pictures no way 43k at game. Don't be so naive. I am a ranger fan and wish there ws43k at game but 30k at most

02 May 2012 18:42:28
Evening ed again no preferred bidder today so when do you think these 2 muppets are going to stop filling their pockets it's a circus m8 .. Kenny bluenose {Ed001's Note - if the bidders won't match the conditions of sale, then they can't become preferred bidders. It is not D&P's fault that it is being dragged out now, this is down to the bidders.}

02 may 2012 20:27:41
mr kennedy at the game tonight live on sky sports looking on with intent to hopefully buy our club way the blue knights

Not after he see,s turn out

Did he pay to get in, or was it a freebie like the rest of the suits.
BK is a rugby fan with a liking for Hibs who is the last resort. He doesn't want to own the club unless there is no one else.
Al

02 May 2012 20:06:07
2-0 y did ally not play that team on Sunday?? Andy little is not fit to play for rangers.

Calm down m8 it's united your playing.henke7

Because it was Celtic away not utd at home.
My complaint is like Walter 4 up no danger bring on Broadfoot wrong . Time to give a youngster game time under no pressure, another chance lost like Walter before .

Highland Bear.

Lol at henke, it was hardly Real Madrid we were playing at the weekend either. You are only celtic, nowt special.

Special enough to cuff your sorry lot......DH

Following previous post , McCulloch brought on nothing learnt there then, kids at Rangers move on for a reason, depending on future events kids on bench might be first team next season . Nice to get run out at Ibrox under no pressure before next season when we dont know what will prevail , opportunity lost like many times before . Walter might have gone but nobody trusts the kids shocking.

Highland Bear

Lol at number 3 still pumped you though what does that say about you

@4&6. Yeah and we played your sorry lot off the park about 4weeks ago.

My dads bigger than your da LMAO

Leeroy

02 May 2012 19:40:52
brian kennedy at ibrox tonight, the blue knights and himself are the only way forward=fact, we need to get right behind them.........

02 May 2012 18:50:41
Who is actually holding the selling of the club? The bids by Miller, and the Blue Knights seem to be coming across as fine with constant statements "A New Owner Could be Announced Today" being issued every day! So the blame has to be with Duff & Phelps milking this for all they can lay their greedy paws on!

It has to be an offer at least equal to the break up value of rangers assets.It's all linked to the creditors,hence the CVA......green jhedi

Yes, I agree with green jedhi. It really is that simple. D&P must get the best price for creditors, however that price is realised.

02 May 2012 18:30:30
Why don't Duff and Phelps just keep their mouth shut and then make a surprise announcement once a bidder is chosen. Surely this would be better than the crap that's going on at the moment. Duff and Phelps are fast becoming the masters of the slow death by 1000 cuts.

If they'd said nothing you'd be whining that you'd heard nothing. They can't win.

02 May 2012 18:13:17
In relation to history we all talk about world war 2, the Romans (no offence), Stalin, hitler and the titanic. Nobody can lose history, 53 titles, most successful club in the world, get used to it timmy, the history survives but the debt wont! WATP, celtic running scared!

@ OP Do look as stupid as you come across as?

Its 54 titles ya complete nugget

Running scared? keep believing hector.........green jhedi

Think titanic think Rangers!

I really think you are clueless, stop making us a laughing stock with your stupid , we are already a joke bj

The only things i can relate is rangers and the titanic.

Did WW2 go,into administration / liquidation? Sorry I didn't get that memo

Mojo

02 May 2012 17:57:30
Looks like it's Miller time, i reckon this guy will do for Rangers what McCann did for Celtic. His plan does not mean liquidation but a temporary newco very similar to what Celtic did in 1994.

Celtic formed a brand new company to take over the football club and put the old company in hiatus, if anyone says that Rangers are not the same club then niether are Celtic post 1994.

Rangers will still be called Rangers and still play at Ibrox with the same fans and most likely now still be in the spl with little or no penalties as that was condition of his bid.

The old Rangers plc company will still work on a cva and pay as much debt back as possible, but this will be a long process maybe taking years.

The Rangers plc company was not formed till 27 years after the football club anyway so while interwined they are not the same thing. {Ed001's Note - that is not what Celtic did at all. All they did was change from private limited unto a public limited company (or the other way around), nothing else.}

My god!twelve weeks in and this rubbish is still getting punted! Celtic were in no way close to whats happening to you..........green jhedi

Absolute nonsense Feargus did nothing like that..... Clutching at straws.... History is going going gone........Newco= zero history.
History starts the day of the Newco.

Celtic didnt write off their debt in 1994 , Celtic didnt use EBT's to sign players they couldnt afford , Celtic didnt owe clubs money for players and Celtic made do with inferior player such as Wayne Biggins , Carl Muggleton , Lee Martin etc while they settled their debt to the bank , a totally different approach than what Rangers are trying to take .

Temporary newco how the feck do.s that work garlar07

WELL SAID ED..we became a plc,not a newco,this incubator nonsense is too try to appease the fans& dress up the fact that a newco is still RFC..whenever there newco starts,that is the end of RFC,s timeline...stevo

Celtic formed a brand new company here is a copy and paste of the companies index website saying so. Note how old the company is.

Company Registration No.: SC153534
Incorporation Date: 11 Oct 1994
17 Years old
Financial Year End: 30 Jun

http://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk/ltd/the-celtic-football-and-athletic-company {Ed001's Note - it is not a brand new company! It is simply a change of TYPE of company.}

You won't win, Ed. These guys won't believe it because they don't want to. It's the same as those who are still refusing to blame SDM for the mess at their club. Still all a 'timmy conspiracy' to them.

1903 {Ed001's Note - when I first started my business, I was a sole trader, when it became a partnership, the name had to be changed at the bank, even though it was the exact same company. What Celtic did was very similar, they just brought in a lot more shareholders into their company.}

02 May 2012 17:33:01
Chris McLaughlin now reporting on twitter that the Duff and Phelps do not expect to name the preferred bidder today - they are a total utter shambles - I believe that they cannot deliver Craig Whyte's shares and may have been his puppets all along. Just getting ready to go to the game I think we should all stay in the stadium after the game until they come out and tell us all what the hell is going on. I know it may sound childish and pointless but this is so frustrating they way they have treated the Rangers support has been disgusting since the start.

Gers1986

Just heard it on radio. No bidder news. Again.

Even stay to the end if your or when your 2 down

02 May 2012 16:24:35
Ed can you find these alleged posts of mine mate, "wheels in motion" etc , "Motherwell would off beat that lot"... I'm considering a law suit against everyone's (least) favourite septic fan :-)))
PaulRFC {Ed001's Note - if they can't find them and copy and paste them in, I would think that is enough to know they don't exist.}

Class mate , que everyone of them trawling through old posts, notice there is one accusation I never denied though ......
PaulRFC

Ohh they did exist& were replied too!denial deflect once again,no need for trolling...you post comments then suddenly say they dont exist,well we all know who wont be in EXISTENCE in a few weeks!!!stevo

02 May 2012 16:03:02
SPL teams warned that for each and every year that Rangers are out of the top flight it could cost the other clubs £600,000 a year each. Source express.
Is this a realistic figure or could it be more? is this the reason why the clubs defered the vote? as for some, if Rangers die, they die? 

No, it would COST nothing. It's just less income so clubs will have to downsize their squads, which they can do because suddenly the average standard of the competition has also gone down.

Emotional nonsense.

It would probably cost more than that. Most clubs get at least that from the Sky deal every year which would obviously go. The SPL would struggle to get a new sponsor so that would mean even less money, and no Rangers fans at away grounds would cost them all at least £100k a season.

GovanFR

Why would the SKY deal 'obviously go'. The only obvious reason for it going is if SKY loses its licence to broadcast - unlikely to happen. Anyway, SKY isn't the only show in town. Finally, where was the 'concern' of Rangers fans for the other clubs finances when they (and Celtic) were trying to engineer a way out of the Scottish league system to England or the oft-proposed Atlantic League?

02 May 2012 15:42:28
would the celtic fans consider a whip round to help us out they could do a 50% reduction in their shop with 25% going to gers fighting fund now thats what i would call friendly neighbours doug

02 May 2012 14:55:52
STOP PRESS : Disney Corporation have tabled a last-ditch bid to buy RFC. Murray park to become a football theme park. On entry, each sucker, sorry, guest, will be given a tour of the facsimile trophy room, several of which will have little stars attached to them thus *. Exhibition games will be staged at Ibrox Park, each carefully choreographed with the collusion, sorry, assistance, of genuine SFA referees, and directed by the guy who also does the Disney Western shows which ensures the good guys, ie. the home team, always win. Catering will be supplied at ludicrous prices, by a voucher scheme designed to cheat previous contractors of their rightful dues, £9 for a coffee, and £18 for a burger, to help pay for debts accrued by previous owners. Looks like one Mickey Mouse outfit is going to get involved with another.

Does frankie and bennys not charge similiar prices already doug

02 May 2012 14:33:37
Green Jhedi, asked a good question
about Paul Murray, why was he not
doing more to galvanise all the true
Rangers fans and raise a share issue.
He got the typical away back to own
page by silly bears..
Here is what a Celtic fan did, without
publicity when we had our troubles..
BOS threatened to pull plug on Celtic
board unless the overdraft was brought
back to a manageable level, John Keane
put £1m of his own money in to Celtic's
bank account to stave off threat from
bank, this gave wee Fergus and others
the time to work out rescue package
and then raise a share issue which
Celtic fans OVER SUBSCRIBED.
There must be Rangers fans out there
with money, but none are coming forward
and also to answer Govan FR, Paul
Murray seems to have short arms
and long pockets, in other words he
does not use his own money for anything
to do with his "beloved" club..
Underwrite £50m share issue, Govan Fr
your having a giraffe, anyway so
far Rangers fans have raised £0.4m
where is the other £49.6m coming
from?.... Timalloy

Yes there is gers fans out there with plenty of money and love to be associated with rangers but too stingy assed to put their hand in their pocket doug

Doh, you can't raise a share issue on a company that currently exists without the consent of the majority shareholders ie Whyte. Secondly we are in admin. Thirdly the debt is massive and has not been finalised. No one will invest until it stabilises and a final figure is known( more than likely liquidation as it is massive)In effect it's nothing similar to Celtic 1994. Now you have had this explained before Timalloy so stop being a goldfish or see your GP regarding your affliction. In fairness the RFF is at 400K by donations from fans expecting or wanting anything in return, purely wishing to help their club, something you lot never ever done. Why do you insist in distorting facts.

I have actually been agreeing with Green Jhedi on Celtic supporters handling of '94 / BOS compared to ours. The apathy of RST, RSA and most supporters has been shocking....It's all too easy to come on these forums and spout what we all should and shouldn't be doing...but the reality is we have done nothing except for a frankly ludicrous march to Hampden alst Saturday...a march against the wrong people and at the wrong time...

Good point Timalloy...As I have always said, I wish we had a Dempsey who could have rallied the support and seen us - the supporters - fight for our club. Instead, we have done nothing!

SPM

"He got the typical away back to own
page "

That's because what we was suggesting didn't actually make any sense, didn't address the issues, and in any event could not be done while the company was in administration. There's not point flag waving "share issue" as the solution to everything when the admins are in control of company, what would you "share issue" for?

If he'd suggested we should have had a whip round at Park head last week, or bake cakes, to solve our current difficulties, it would have been more meaningful. Sure you guys would have loved making a contribution.

;)

I see 1 of the stingy fans is on his computer this afternoon and disagreed with me ,im on my laptop too but still working and muti tasking as woman keep telling me doug

To the poster number 4 - everyone is missing the point of Timalloy's OP...the main point is as fans we haven't done enough to make our concerns known....we've by and large sat back, shown some defiance in attendences at Ibrox but other than that, we've done nothing. Its as if everyone is either resigned to our fate...or...just so arrogant that because its Rangers, everything will be alright! Whether or not anyone of us can make a difference, it sometimes means something to show you actually care. We have not demonstrated that!

SPM

@4; not trading in RFC shares.Rather raise the amount to satisfy the administrators,get preferred bidder status all thru fans donations,then when you have control,convert the funds and monies paid by fans to shares. Not to difficult i would have thought.........green jhedi

@7 Sounds lovely, have you ever organised anything like this before? having raised the £12-15million via carboot sales etc, what would be your future plans for the cub? on going cash requirement etc?

BM has the money and was part of consortium that does this sort of thing day in, day out. PM had an involvement with the club, understands the needs of the business and genuinely thinks he can still pull it off.

It's not that I'm doubtful of your sentiments green jhedi, it's the fact it's just that, sentiment. There's a bit more to it than your obvious good intentions.

Main poster - fair bit of brown tonguing on yir mate GJ.
So much for your lot knowing what really happened at your club. Don't think this guy was part of the fans movement, but wanted to see his club survive. Maybe that says a lot.

@8; well living within your means would be the start as no credit will be easy to get. I would have thought you might be worried about Miller getting your club...........green jhedi

@10 green jhedi, that's why we're here! we're all hoping that someone will buy the club, very, very, soon.

Ally's spoken with both bidders, happy to work with either, even seems quite up-beat. You never ever seem to really "get it" do you? just flit about making snidey remarks, here, there and everywhere, like a little evil fairy- Well, whatever rocks your unhappy boat.

02 May 2012 14:17:39
There wil always be 5 stars on the jersey, Newco or not.
Its to symbolise the highest possible standard of cheating and corruption. It should stay there as a constant reminder.
"We dont do walking away" Except from TAX, PAYE, Transfers Fees, Facepainters, Florists, Newsagents etc.

02 May 2012 13:50:42
Rusty the tim is back!!!!ok rangers fans I'm going to tell you the truth here!bm hasn't got rangers at heart,why would you go to newco??exactly get rid of most of the debt,put a bit of your own money in,stable the books,sell on for more than you've put in!!reason!rangers looks more appealing with healthier books!!tbk now!yes rangers minded but wouldn't let them near the big hoose!!proved over the past wks they've no money!!if the get the keys think it would be dark days for a few years!!no money,no muscle!!the person you need is mr Desmond!!has everything that they both want and need but can't get near him!!just like Celtic and rangers!!Celtic is so far by the finishing line,the line is a dot to you's lol!!hail hail rusty the guy you want to adopt the tim!!!!

A bit confused rusty is it desmond dekker your talking about ,so you a poor wee orphan well i,l adopt you ,do you like washing cars ? doug

Thats right we want a guy who will sit back as our rivals are "on their knee's" and not push on n try n strengthen enough to leave us well behind. or a guy who signs "its my dream to play for selik, naw wait liverpool, hold on i mean spurs, naw 100% in america" robbie keane mid season to help "selik minded" mr mowbray challenge for honours....on the same night dundee utd eliminated us from the scottish cup your lot were at love street 4 nil down n mowbray gone!! With us out the cup n keane in your side surely at least a scottish cup would justify keane's loan??!! Then came ross co n the rest is history. dont worry about us pal, as long as you have mr desmond it'll be ok eh?!!
J1985

Haha, aye good come back, what a pointless rant! In fact, what is your point J85?

Miko x

@2..see that's why rangers are hanging on by there finger tips with supporters like you!!it wasn't if we didn't want to finish you's off it's called not spending what we don't have!!you's would know all about that!keane had a good loan spell..check stats you loser!!it isn't a 1 man team,we in and lose together!!!Tony didn't work out so we sorted it!!if you were a neutral and you had to pick which team.....sorry only 1winner!! Celtic..liquidation liquidation na na na na na!!hail hail rusty the tim

Just checked stats rusty....robbie keane's selik career summed up......zero goals against rangers, zero trophies won. aye youd right good loan spell indeed. Roaster!!!!
As for fans like myself being the reason we're in this position?!! If i was dealing with the transfer and contracts of players at rangers then your comment would be justified but instead its just your usual p**h. oww n as for strengthening when you had the chance to push on whilst we were apparently on our knees. 2 words....... steven fletcher.
As for you miko. i struggle to even respond to you usually as your more of an annoyance than anything else but on this occassion i will. i was simply highlighting a few home truths to this rusty character about mr desmond. i thought my point was idiot proof......but then i forgot about you.
J1985

02 May 2012 13:42:01
It's funny hearing all the mhanks (and there is quite a number on here) who give it "who's this Glasgow rangers" , now I agree with this , but let me ask you this timmy, who are the "famous Glasgow Celtic" that your former chairman kept referring to on the channel 4 documentary "the plot to bring down britains planes" EH ? My fellow fans might slip up now and again by saying "Glasgow rangers" but you lot have a doctor , your former chairman on national tv harping on about how when the terrorist plot was in full swing, he was at Chelsea watching "the famous GLASGOW celtic" play, does he not no the name of the club he used to "run", absolute classic ! So just simmer down the lot of ya an run along to your own page !
PaulRFC

Ah look...there's a squirrel


DEFLECTION ALERT. DEFLECTION ALERT

mojo

Look whos crawled back out from under his stone!!so what happend your utter bolloc@s of a prediction motherwell will beat us,gers winning at parkhead??as usual you are a dreamer& fantasist,weres your onwards& upwards,the wheels are in motion for a strong rangers next year?again total garbage,go buy your nice new maroon top for next season,as your beloved RFC is having its last rites!!stevo

Classic stevo , the "stone" you refer to mate is called family life , infact it's just generally called life you should give it a try bud ;-) , it beats going on your greater rivals page sounding like a parrot ! aahh it's good not been Norma no mates !
PaulRFC

Now you're just a blatant liar man , oh my days , why would I say the well would beat ya , their rank , "wheels in motion" more fantasy stevo (I blame the cheap cider) , you're a one off pal , but for some reason I can't help but like ya (could be pity infact)
PaulRFC

Haha,forgot about his wheels in motion speech! Onwards and downwards.

Well your talking more bolloc@s again,as you posted well would win,gers would win,trying to get the points total down,then were blaming admin for our title..why lie m8????or do you tell that many you believe your own hype??a job awaits you m8 with duff& phelps,stevo

LOL m8,he has in the past stated admin& liquidation was us timmys being fantasists..he bought into new owners,stronger team next year..as you say "aye the wheels are in motion" think he passes his motions threw his mouth!denial deflect,now is anger& acceptance..enjoy tynecastle paul,as you have stated you will never support any newco,& thats what rfc will be..dead dodo extinct....stevo

Atleast ya have one thing right I've said, you are a classic mate , tyncastle ? You mean hampden ? A stadium you've never been to , you'd have to leave your keyboard for that eh ?
PaulRFC

Oooooh paul narsty mood today,garlar07

PMSL..have been to stadiums in scotland,england& some european as in san siro..Estadio Da Luz,i have probably been to ibox more times than you m8..stevo

Have you ever been to the stadium in atlantis ? bet your googling it right now to find out where it is doug

02 May 2012 13:18:12
Here's the "MG02" form submitted by Rangers today that people seem to be going on about on twitter today...

Having read it I can't seem to figure out its relevance but thought I'd post it anyway.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/92073418/Rangers-BOS-2012

So, what does it mean then? Anyone? Ed!! What significance does this hold? {Ed001's Note - I don't see any significance to a document dated 2004!}

02 May 2012 13:00:25
hybrid,incubator?pmsl....so yous will be zombie fc after rfc play there last& final game ever in perth on may13....honestly how many will support this zombie newco?? as it wont be rfc??if you will support the zombie newco press agree..stevo

Get a life stevo...,, you're on here day after day after day after day, and all you do is post the same stuff over an over an over again, have you really nothing else to do with your days ?
PaulRFC

Stevo, was it not you that posted comments that about five weeks with dates in April that rangers would be liquidation.

HEY nugget at least my posts have truth in them,not like your blue tinted guff you post,as i stated above...stevo

Yes because zombies ARE real, and there is a ton of truth in zombies ya walloper

Canyousaybanana!!

@4;! Zombies are real! oohh,watch it going to bed mate..........green jhedi

End of days in may i said,as thats when players would return to full wages,deflect away,zombie fc is looming&the walking dead will gather & have there witch hunt blaming every one& anyone!!ya stoaters..stevo

02 May 2012 12:09:13
step up david murray and take responsibility for what you have done,step up craig whyte and take responsibility for what you have done you will always be known as the men who killed glasgow rangers

Wishful thinking but there is more chance of the wee ginger nut getting knighted than there is of those two stepping up

JG

Why do you always bring Gordon Strachan into it......DH

Lennon again!you just cant help it!

02 May 2012 11:33:44
YES YESY YES ITS BEEN ANNOUNCED - Nothing! So stop posting trash unless you hve actual proof. The rumour is nothing so say nothing until their is actually something to say and you can quote its source instead of making up sad we stories .
Gazza

02 May 2012 08:18:15
Submitted by WG on Wed, 02/05/2012 - 06:56

A 'newco' option to exit administration is looking increasingly likely for Rangers, even though Brian Kennedy, associated with one of the two bids on the table, insists that an exit via a company voluntary arrangement is still feasible.

A newco could dump the club's load of toxic debt and then re-apply for admission to the Scottish Premier League. Rangers manager Ally McCoist insist that such a scenario would not mean liquidation and wiping out the club's history, although possibly they might have to call themselves Rangers 2012. McCoist is hopeful that administrators Duff & Phelps will name a preferred bidder by the end of this week.

One difficulty, however, is the distinctly unhelpful attitude shown by the Scottish football authorities towards the plight of 'Gers. Rangers are essential to the viability of the Scottish competition, not least for the number of away fans they take to smaller clubs. However, the 'leaders' of the Scottish game seem determined to enforce their rules in a relentlessly bureaucratic way regardless of the wider consequences.

Disagree!! Rangers are not needed for the SPL to be viable. I think everone has now accepted that if Rangers go the SPL will downsize and will still be viable and sellable, albeit on a smaller scale. Why don't Rangers fans wake up, smell the coffee and stop thinking that football, and life itself, depends on them. It doesn't. If anything, Rangers owe the SPL, creditors and everyone else who's getting shafted some money, apologies and most of all some humbleness.

Haha, Sally's wrong then!

Miko x

Ally talks nonsense

The last paragraph is riddled with nonsense.you say "unhelpful attitude" and "relentlessly enforce" what else could they do? Be seen to ignore rules in favour of rangers? You and some other gers fans forget they could have expelled you from the game! As for the rubbish about enforcing rules,isnt that what you wanted to happen with the "due diligence" fiasco?Out of all your supporters groups not one bothered to check whyte out,why? Plenty tims did and posted what they found only to be told"jog on timmy" dingwall,mccmillan and the rest were sleeping while a shyster looted your club,and now they appear on TV like they know the score!Honest guys,you gotta start asking what these clowns actually do for you? They had a meeting with whyte and thought he was great,kinda says it all really.I remember listening to another berk called edgar on real radio, after a meeting with murray, claiming he could not say what but exciting times lay ahead for rangers! is this what he meant?

@1. So you agree in downsizing the spl? Is that not a step backward for a league that wants to expand to 14 teams... All you would do then is bring three duff teams in instead of 2..... ooooohhhh that would be a more competitive league..... rubbish.... the spl would crumble... why do you think they want to keep us in....

Why Should the SPL, SFA or other clubs help Rangers in any shape or form. Rangers (and celtic) have tried to leave the Scottish Game for years now when you need help you say the gmae can't survive without you, but when you had a team / business you were willing to leave it high and dry. Go to EPL Championship, Football League see if they will have u