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02 Nov 2011 23:48:25
-----------------McGregor
McMillan----Goian-----Bocanegra----Wallace
Whittaker---Davis----Edu-----McKay
-----------Lafferty---Jelavic
----------McGregor
Whittaker Goian Bocanegra Papac
-------- Davis Edu McKay
-------------Fleck
---------Jelavic Lafferty
Fleck - Are you mad?
02 Nov 2011 23:36:18
How a 'phoenix' club can play in Scottish football
sorry ed forgot to add link to my last post. biggles
sport.stv.tv/football/scottish-premier/rangers/277115-what-happens-when-a-club-in-administration-sets-up-a-phoenix-company/
02 Nov 2011 23:31:28
The taxman putting Rangers out of business would be like a pimp losing a whore cause she owed him some coin, relax - its not in anyone's best interest that Rangers go bust.... chill out, we have a fine temperature for it -12 .... brrrrrrr
02 Nov 2011 22:09:27
I'M A GENIUS :O
Play Juanma Ortiz at right back where he played for Almeria and was very assured and play Whittaker on the right midfield because he's a clumsy defender at times and quality going forward.
Ally McCoist i'm after your job son. :)
Iv bn sayin tht since the start ofthe season. Or bomb Whittaker out all together
02 Nov 2011 22:03:16
If we have a starting 11 of shagger, whittker, captain america, goian, wallace, davis, edu, mcculloch, papac, jelavic and lafferty i'm chucking it, must be most negitive gers team in history
Chuck it
NTYABOW
See ya!
Another one who dosent remember the plg era s.p.
02 Nov 2011 21:30:20
Juanma Ortiz is a very well balanced player who has pace and can put in a good ball, he's always looked very good on the right some people just have an indifferent opinion on him because of when he was played out of position.
02 Nov 2011 21:13:59
All this talk about Naisy being out and being a disaster is a bit off. He's a great player but we have guys like Fleck, Mackay, Bedoya and Lafferty and Wylde who can impress as replacements given a proper run. People badmouth Fleck but give him a run of games and I think he'd come good.
I'll take injuries, administration and any other groups trying to bring down Glasgow Rangers. Truth is WATP and the leagues ours to win! Let's rally behind the players at every game and support them to another glorious title!
4IAR WATP!!!
Rossco Cyprus Bear
Fleck is a dud... He has been at Ibrox for years now and the only thing he has done is eat himself fat... I can't stand the wee fat guy and he has a bad attitude. Bin him or loan him out.
02 Nov 2011 21:06:12
Just going to give my views on how we should cover the loss of Naisy. I feel changing to a 4-1-2-1-2 formation, with a narrow diamond midfield, would suit us best. We don't really have good enough natural wingers. Edu would sit deeper for me, with Davis & McKay ahead of him & John Fleck at the head of the diamond, linking up play with Laff & Jela. I feel it is really time Fleck was given the chance, in his best position, to show what he can do. He clearly has the talent.
What do you guys think? And you Ed?
Steven {Ed001's Note - the only problem with that system is that the midfield might get dragged wide or forced wide. Why not 4-3-3, same midfield but two out and out wingers/wide forwards either side of Jelavic?}
Leave it as it is, find the right player to fill naisys boots.
We don't have any good natural wingers in my opinion, as I said in my post.
Steven {Ed001's Note - yeah I know, which is why I put the wide forwards bit in afterwards as I thought about it. Ortiz might be worth a go on the right, if he is pushed right up and not expected to cover a full back, he just might be able to offer something.}
"narrow diamond midfield" ? with the state of your finances I think you'll have to make do with Cubic Zirconia !
Could be right Ed, but sadly I don't think he will be upto much. Likewise Gregg Wylde, I don't rate him.
Steven {Ed001's Note - I can't see Wylde making it as an out and out winger myself, his crossing isn't good enough. Maybe he could also be decent as a wide forward?}
Could be Ed. I think he is let down more than anything by the fact that he plays with his head down. Very inconsistent and lazy with his decision making at times. Still young though.
Would love to see Fleck get a run, what you think?
Steven {Ed001's Note - I don't know about Fleck, he looked fantastic when he first appeared, but his potential has yet to be achieved. I think he needs a manager who plays a more attacking system and gives him more freedom. I am not sure Ally is that man myself.}
Why is everyone talking about Fleck again? He has been given chance after chance after chance and done jack. It is time for him to move on to another club and loose some weight. He is a really bad and very poor mans Roonie. The difference is that Roonie is fit, in shape, can score goals, can make passes, can beat player, is 100% comitted, has a good attitude, stands up and is counted, is good at everything. Fleck... Well I am sure he is good at 5vs
Started one game since the turn of the year (away to Sporting Lisbon). How is that getting chance after chance after chance? Charlie Adam got all this abuse too. Fleck has ability and WILL come good. But he needs a REAL chance.
And you can't even spell ROONEY, so your opinion becomes void straight away.
Steven
He comes on brilliantly in FM11 : )
02 Nov 2011 20:39:12
Boyd better not be coming back......... Greed was the reason he left, he was convinced he was a big fish in a small pond. Im glad his venture down south has gone belly up. No one man is bigger than a club!!!!
BEGGZY
Greed wasn't the reason he left, he spent years at Ibrox and won all there was to win and he broke the goalscoring record. He wanted a change and maybe a few bob extra, he is a familyman afterall.
So he won everything he wanted , then why come back ? Hes been found out for what he is an S.P.L. player. s.p.
Any chance he left because we needed the money at that time? yeh he left, here we nearly...2 seasons down the road with 3 in a row. as a player he was a fantastic finisher . lazy sod on the pitch though
i certainly wouldnt turn him down on that alone. id even have miller back
02 Nov 2011 20:10:47
What has david healy actually done for his 5k a week? Think its a joke what hes got away with.
Who brought him in? Who resigned him? He hasn t had a chance in big games- we got him 5 years too late.
Healy is a goalscorer who in recent seasons hasn't had much playing time. I think that kind of goalscoring ability is in him but he hasn't had a run in the team and we can't afford to give him a run in the team with Lafferty & Jela so good together.
02 Nov 2011 19:42:49
Going to watch Champions League games on tv but I thought I would leave you bears with this......
Has anyone else seen the utter IRONY of Mr Whyte getting a loan to keep Rangers going from a company called CLOSE Brothers ha ha you could not make it up hail hail Timalloy
That's the problem with tims, they don't know when they're not wanted...
54TITLES&STILLGOINGSTRONG
Gotta admit, one phrase that is getting a bit jaded is ' you could not make it up', just a little bit overused today.
54 titles and still going strong,but how many are tainted titles???
Tainted titles eh?? Well seeing that last title Celtic won was gift wrapped with dodgy decisions and a run in of fixtures which was a disgrace for Rangers I wouldn't go on about tainted so much.
Ha ha Whyte is taking you into oblivion 120 years down the tube, because of a fake billionaire
02 Nov 2011 19:25:52
The rumours are that mckay will be a replacement for naisy but he is a left sided midfield player unless mcoist plays mckay behind jelavic+lafferty.4-3-1-2.
Other option is ortiz or bedoya.4-4-3.
Aye 4-4-3. What a cracking formation that is. It's Celtic that need to sneak another player on the pitch not us lol.
Gerry The Ger.
No Ortiz, please no. Blue4ever
02 Nov 2011 19:21:00
Rangers won 1-0 vs Hibs yesterday in the bounce game and John Fleck got the goal.
Not sure when we'll hear about how Joe Sise did.
02 Nov 2011 19:20:58
NTBABOW thanks for the namecheck, again you must all miss me when I dont post ha ha
In answer to your first question, if life begins at 40 you are "past it" at 41ish ha ha
Now to MY best Old Firm games.....
My earliest Old Firm game was my father took me to the 4-2 in 1979 when we won the title on last day of the season, we were a goal down and and a player down yet still won. This was when Celtic fans coined the phrase "Ten men won the League"
Next of course is "Demolition Derby" 27/8 2000 when our Henrik ran riot, oh happy days.
Then on 8 May 2004 Chris Sutton scored in a 1-0 win to give Celtic a clean sweep by winning ALL FIVE derbies that year.
Oh and to the guy who gloated about the old uncovered ends at Ibrox and hamden and singing the tims are getting wet. You must remember the famous Celtic fans response of "We're singing in the rain, just singing in the rain" after yet another win.
LOL Timalloy
Best old firm game Rangers win the title at parkhead , Think the song we sang was " come on over to parkhead hey you we're having a party " And the celtic fans throwing everthing including them selfs from the stands , priceless lol s.p.
P.S.timalloy what was your famous response that day ha ha ?? s.p.
02 Nov 2011 19:04:02
ormer Rangers players could face backdated tax bills as Her Majesty’s Revenue and Customs conduct their investigation into the club.
The inquiry centres on the use of overseas trust funds to pay footballers and The Herald has learned that clubs across Britain who employed the scheme often ensured that players first accepted any future tax liabilities before contracts were signed.
The employee benefit trusts, or employee remuneration trusts, were common practice in UK football, particularly the Premiership, from the mid-1990s onwards. Money was paid into the offshore trusts and then loaned back to the players, with no expectation of them paying any interest. The scheme allowed tax and national insurance bills to be avoided.
Although not strictly illegal, the HMRC has been keen to close the loophole and recover funds, and began targeting football clubs several years ago. Between 2001 and 2009, Rangers are thought to have paid £46m into remuneration trusts, coinciding with a time when the club was spending significantly on high-profile players. One estimate of the bill the club might face is £24m.
However, a tax expert has told The Herald that clubs often sought agreement from players that the individuals would accept any future tax liabilities
02 Nov 2011 18:54:42
Fellow Bear. Regarding the rumours about Rangers being given a fixed charge security over their assets to Close Brothers, if true, could anyone post the link so I can have a wee gander for myself? I can't find it anywhere.
I'm beginning to think this is another wide-of-the-mark rumour generated thru the damn rangerstaxcase website.
TonyTheGer
There is a financial company in London called Close Brothers Financial for intermediate financing , need to pay to look at the accounts been in business from 2001
Tony go to rangerstaxcase.com
It is registered at Companies house about this loan, this company deal in mainly "risky" debts, says it all really Timalloy
02 Nov 2011 17:43:03
Any one know of the trial match today for the lad Sisse. Thanks.
Dont know what happened with that, I read it was supposed to be on tuesday against hibs but never heard anything so thought it would be today but still not heard
02 Nov 2011 17:36:48
Not a Rangers rumour, but i just wanted to mention how brave Billy Sharp of Doncaster was to come out and play for his club after losing his baby son, and to score a fantastic goal, which he dedicated to his son was extraordinary. The whole of football should take a look at how humble this can make us all. Condolances to Billy and family, a very brave thing to do, as a father I can only imagine the grief felt by him and his loved ones. My thoughts are with a very brave young man...............
I find it terrible when players get booked for showing a message on their under armour, whats wrong with that
weeblue
What a man. He done this when his son had just died and that tit tevez who's getting paid 275000 a week canny get his melted welly face off the bench cause he didn't want to come on as a sub. Billy sharp, what a man.
Life is more than football!
Haw
Never a truer phrase posted. Life is important, football is a wee bit of fun. If you have your health, thats all you need.
02 Nov 2011 17:08:39
how did joe sise do in the closed door game.hope the big lad did well ,need a big lad up front for cover.get him signed up Ally.
02 Nov 2011 16:46:39
You would think matt mckay was messi the way people go on about him, one thing is for sure he couldnt tie way naismiths shoelaces, I fear for gers team without naisy
Yes Naismith has been great this year, but dont start knocking a player before he has had a chance.
Id be surprised if he was unable to tie a set of shoelaces, he is a fully grown man after all- however tall or otherwise.
02 Nov 2011 15:38:10
In reply 2 Steven A question on the best old firm games,I highlighted 3 games that sprung 2 mind them being on my birthday & at the end of post I left a wee message for miko&timalloy, who thinks any of the dimwit brothers know what age I am now. Don't know if I will get a reply from dumb & dumber heard they were holding a vigil outside centre 1 East Kilbride, it is november now tax case is looming ,their maw's will be out buying new panties for them
NTYABOW
02 Nov 2011 15:34:17
Hi Ed. Do you think FARE will make a complaint against the Chelsea fans for their racial chanting toward Anton Ferdinand?
FARE weren't slow in intervening when they reported Rangers for apparant sectarian chanting against PSV even though the song in question, Build My Gallows, has no sectarian or racial references.
Was just wondering what your thoughts were on this?
TonyTheGer {Ed002's Note - I doubt it.}
02 Nov 2011 15:21:47
Kris Commons wore a neck brace into training, he claims it was a joke response to his 'bust up'. Perhaps it was to hide his chins.
Always needing support to keep their chins up...
It was made of brass
02 Nov 2011 15:06:18
spiears last night if you asked me if white was minted or not.i would go for not.murray could not be seen to be in charge if club went into administrstion,white steps in safe gaurds his investment.as main crediter.f***s of to his office in iceland,rangers in deep s**t who cares execpt the fans.
I don't understand this message mate. Was this a comment made by Graeme Spiers? Is he suggesting Murray gave the club to whyte in order to save face? J1985
Your spelling is mince
Spiers made comment on radio clyde last night.about murray and white,
02 Nov 2011 14:16:26
read this article on stv about spl clubs going into administration thought it cleared a few things up and made all this talk a little clearer. maybe not all doom and gloom after all./ biggles
02 Nov 2011 12:57:01
In your own opinion, what was the greatest Old Firm Match? (Doesnt need to be a high scoring game)
StevenA
The game where Maurice Edu scored the late, late winner lol, I was at that game was some feeling. The 4-2 game recently was a cracker because we steamrolled them in the 2nd half. WATP!
3-2 scottish cup final, Barry Fergusons great freekick to make it 2-2, then Neil McCann bursts down the left just in front of me and delivers a great ball for Lovenkrands diving header for the winner. Great game. But for pure bragging rights alone, winning the title at Parkhead, "the greatest fans in the world" splitting Hugh Dallas with a coin, Riseth send off, i think wee wallace went as well and Neil McCann's great performance, that's up there as well. Too many to chose from mate. J1985
The 4 2 game at the piggery when mendes scored THAT goal,we were bouncin tht day
The day we won the league at the piggery.
Oranjeboom
31/08/1986 Super Cooper plays reverse ball 2 Ian Durrant batter 1-0 RANGERS
my 16th birthday
31/08/1991 Mark Hately double easy at the girodome guess what 21 today
31/08/2008 awright am gettin old Cousin
Miller double Mendes another mauling at the piggery RANGERS don't lose on ma birthday happy birthday 2 me, get it up's yee's miko & timalloy
NTYABOW
I would have to go with the Scottish Cup Final where Lovernkrands scored in the last minute. Although the Edu last minute goal is close behind.
GovanFR
My best game is probably the 5-1 game at ibrox when ray wilkins scored with an absolute pile driver from a volley, mhanky mhob scored first i seem to remember and their new star keeper iain andrews had a stinker, if not that then the gamein may 99 when we won the league ah wot a day
andygers74
Celtic 2-3 rangers scotish cup final 128k , mayhem till big jaws settles it with a 2inch screamer.then the Rangers end goes nuts the stoor ,the noise,the songs...... it was Rangers for me for that 14 year old from then on in...........Les
1996 Nov - Parkhead, Celtic 0 - 1 Champions
Laudrup scored after Oneill (I think) fell over the ball. After that it was probably the most open game of football I have ever attended, Nail biting stuff, with the greatest talent on show for both sides.
Van Hooijdonk missing a pen, Gazza Missing a pen, Van Vossen missing the worst sitter ever. Di Canio and Fergie fighting.. Just the best advert for an Auld Firm game
Tommy Burns v Walter Smith
Two True legendary men at a time when both teams had some of the best players europe had to offer and there was a respect between the two clubs at every level from Board to Player...in a somewhat more dignified time.
Look at us now
Rikkisixx
Also a couple of 3-3 belters,
or Rangers 3-1 with That Albertz Freekick and two last minute goals from Big Bad Bo to clinch the game, The picture of Walter running down the east enclosure still gives me a smile
Don't care what anyone says, Its still the best fixture on the planet, no comparison
Thats easy Bears, 2v0 down at Ibrox and Edvalson has just hit the bar which would have been 3v0, I was 14 and turned to my mate (r.i.p m8) and said " if these b4st4rds score again, I'm no goin' oot the night. The Rangers came out second half and if memory serves me, D.J and our very own Lord Lucan, Gordon Smith scored to give us a 3v2 win, in the rain the old Derry bouncing and singing the " huns are getting wet, huns are getting wet, eeee aye adio, huns are getting wet 2 " go home ya huns, go home ya huns, go home ya huns, go home " makes you wonder how we are now the huns, I've always wondered how that came about..... anyway, that was my third old firm game and still to this day remains the best of my life, WHAT A COME BACK !!.... Rangers 'til I die ( 1977-78 season ) {Ed001's Note - I am not sure whether this post is going to get the site in trouble or not, the word 'hun' is now classed as sectarian. I wonder what Attila would think?}
Ed, there was absolutely no sectarian intent mate, but those chants did take place, and I have often wondered how it was all reversed. No insult intended and aplogies if anyone is offended. Rangers 'til I die................ It was a GREAT comeback game, brilliant !!
Rikkisixx are you pished Gazza missing pen Van Vossen sitter were a different game that was played at night I was working back shift
NTYABOW
Scottish Cup final when Lovenkrands scored a few
Celtic 0 - 1 Rangers
Laudrup scored, Van Vossan missed a sitter, gazza missed a pen and Van Hooidonk missed a pen.
that was a great game. not just the best OF game but one of the best games i have ever seen.
Ntyabow?? I have never been so shattered after any game in my puff, don't know wether your having a dig but the atmosphere, and end to end nature of that game just did it for me..... It's a personal opinion everyone has their favourites for lots of reasons, but we won 1-0 and it coulda been 5-5.
Rikkisixx
Please post ed for ntyabow, www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryb7BAAFaOw&feature=youtube_gdata_player
4 4. Glasgow cup game souness was just named the new manager but am sure Alex totten was in charge that night
Everyone that we beat that mob happy days
02 Nov 2011 12:08:49
Anyone else like to see john fleck given a run in the team to replace naisy? I know he hasn't really risen to his potential but he is still only 20 and to be honest he wouldn't have had the hype around him if he couldn't play. Let's see what he can do given a run untill say christmas....
Don't think Fleck is fancied by Ally. Remember a few pre seasons ago he was sent home by Smith for telling McCoist to f88k off? That may have a bearing on Ally's decision not to give him a chance. Also i would like to see McKay or Bedoya, we paid money for both these guys and in the case of Bedoya, Ally was desperate to get him and paid a fee when we could have got him for nothing in Jan, so McCoist must have liked what he'd see of him. J1985
02 Nov 2011 11:58:05
rangers won 5-0 against patick thistle sisse got 4 and mckay got one
We played Hibs not Partick Thistle.
Also Georgie Welcome got a hattrick in a bounce game and wasn't signed, it isn't about the goals it's about the overall play and Ally McCoist is the best man to judge an attacker. WATP.
That was half time Healy came on and scored six, Ortiz got two in a 14-0 victory, the other was an Alexander penalty.
Too many clowns on here, Kerkar scored 3 hatricks- I left foot/ I right foot/ I headers- always knew he would come good in the end.
02 Nov 2011 11:38:54
rite im bored in work and thought of this after writing a post on the other page ....
If Walter Smith had the current celtic team player s and ally has his current crop of gers players who do u think would win the league ?! Silly and pointless i know but beats working !
Germinator
Rangers because the players have more heart and togetherness, we have the experience of being winners and a team full of Rangers supporters who will do everything for the cause and they don't have a player as classy as Jelavic or a defence as solid as GOIANEGRA lol.
Correct silly but ally would win because we are Rangers,but I also think watty would bring the thunder and pannache.
There certainly wouldn't be a 12 point gap, regardless
Rikkisixx
I wonder how much money it would take for Sir Walter to consider the Celtic job? All the tea in china springs to mind lol CheltBlue
02 Nov 2011 10:19:32
The fact that the Celtic fans coming on here can only mouth off about the tax case just shows how poor their team is. This is a football banter page not an acountants banter page so let's stick to football which to be honest your team is very poor at.
Getwellsoonnaisy
02 Nov 2011 07:45:44
Can't wait see mckay get a run in the team
02 Nov 2011 00:35:41
why has mat makay not been starting ?
Would love to see him and bedoya get a start