Rangers Banter Archive October 02 2017

 

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02 Oct 2017 21:13:54
Declan John has slotted into the left back position in the absence of Wallace and has produced some impressive displays especially v Hamilton.
He carries a goal threat so he could probably be deployed further forward, probably in the position currently occupied by Windass when Wallace returns.



02 Oct 2017 21:48:30
Remember Wallace's loyalty.



02 Oct 2017 22:08:23
John is better than wallace, loyality has got nothing to do with it.



02 Oct 2017 22:17:56
No one should get a position in the side out of loyalty.



02 Oct 2017 22:42:17
Waldo deserves loyalty. he’s not the worse player in the team. I also back Pedro and Kenny . who ever the rat is the media can keep him.



03 Oct 2017 00:26:40
So we should play waldo because he was loyal even tho john is the better player? John did more in one game than waldo has done all season and last. 😩🔫



03 Oct 2017 00:48:43
JC gers - well said!



03 Oct 2017 10:34:32
Play the 2 of them, Waldo LB and John LM. it would give us a far better balance to the side and more width. even try Windass in Penas posistion.



03 Oct 2017 11:51:40
SG34 I for one have had enough of Windass he's had his chance and 25 mins a game is not good enough true he has some ability but too lazy a player for me if Anyone I would give Holt or young Barjonas a go in the Pena position.



03 Oct 2017 17:38:14
SG34

That was the point of my original post play Wallace and John as you also stated.



04 Oct 2017 00:32:33
I know what you're saying Larky but tbh i don't actually think we have a #10 type player at all. i think Mckay could have been that but we don't have him anymore. i certainly don't think Holts the answer either, yes he's full of effort and running but just lacks that real explosive threat you need to play in that position.



04 oct 2017 00:33:37
personally i think john should be played instead of windass with instruction to help out waldo as much as he can.

waldo isn't the player he was and we should find a replacement but john isn't it as he is as far as i can tell a winger.



03 Oct 2017 23:02:31
Totally agree copland01, Johns more tactically aware than Windass as he can go walkies sometimes when he plays out on the left



02 Oct 2017 16:54:40
Anybody predicting the results of the two World Cup qualifiers this week? Personally, I think we'll draw both games. Slovakia are a good team and away to anybody is difficult for Celtic (oops, sorry Scotland) . At least if we draw then Chesney will be oot the door. Hurrah for that!



02 Oct 2017 18:17:47
It seems your willingly wanting us not to qualify, can I ask if your old enough what did u do during FRANCE 98 group games?



02 Oct 2017 18:42:40
Who cares



02 Oct 2017 19:39:16
Rayman99

I'm old enough to remember 1978 and all Scotland ever did was fail to qualify and be home before the postcards. Scotland would contribute nothing if they qualified and I do agree the bias towards Celtic is staggering



02 Oct 2017 19:40:02
At least Scotland have a fighting chance! After 4 games we only had 4 points.



02 Oct 2017 19:52:31
Tbh scotlands luck we would win both and england would either get beat or draw i'm not holding my hopes up sadly



02 Oct 2017 21:35:43
Doiger it wasnt that difficult away for the champs last Saturday, and I seem to remember a wee away victory in europes biggest club competition not even a week ago! If your going to try and be funny at least think before u spout Shoite 🙈🙈😂😂😂



03 Oct 2017 00:04:41
Nah mate you were right first time celtic



03 Oct 2017 00:31:43
You better believe it I don't want us (Scotland) to qualify for the World Cup! How can I respect and support Leigh Griffiths after the way he conducts himself against our great club😡



02 Oct 2017 23:31:29
Who said I was trying to be funny?



03 Oct 2017 00:52:07
Yately - if Griffiths sends us to the world cup you'll be jumping for joy, like the rest of us!



03 Oct 2017 09:02:45
Jason Brown

Yately is spot on. How can you support a man who hates our club and continually provokes the fans. Yeah the fans give him abuse but no worse than any other Celtic player yet most of them don't react like him. Great player but total Ned



03 Oct 2017 09:17:33
Nearly all of you will change your tune if Griffiths fires us to a World Cup. As for Celtic bias, as much as I hate to say it maybe its because they went a season unbeaten and won a treble? Since bringing in tierney, Armstrong ans Griffiths we've improved tenfold. Griffiths is 10 the player Chris Martin is. I hope Dorrans and Jack can play their way into the Scotland squad but, for now, I will support the boys at Hamden on Thursday.



03 Oct 2017 10:31:31
No chance broony is the only chance as always. This a rangers blog take it back to the slimy side



03 Oct 2017 10:37:54
Believe me Jason I won't! 🇬🇧🇬🇧



03 Oct 2017 10:54:34
Sparky what bias is that? Maybe u would prefer Strachan picking players from Scotlands 2nd best team or 3rd best how low do u want me to go.
If it was full of your players u would have a different view.
Which means You are bias and obv bitter.



03 Oct 2017 11:54:06
Scotland's position is crystal clear they must win both games in order to get to the playoffs and if they can't they are not good enough anyway simple really.



02 Oct 2017 15:59:15
Maybe, kenny and pedro are fishing to find the leak. Maybe only a handfull of players were involved in the whole situation with kenny and pedro so they can try and expose whoever is feeding this info to the press. Just a thought!



02 Oct 2017 18:33:44
get a grip teddy are you in denial



02 Oct 2017 19:44:01
The same thing played out with Paul legurn and mark warburton. Bottom line he is just not up to the job.



02 Oct 2017 21:31:10
Not in denial, maybe wishfull thinking. I like kenny miller, he's been a great servant to our club and i'd like to see him continue with us.
Jason brown, i assume you are refering to pedro not being up to it?
Yes i agree, out of his depth and soon to be out of a job.



03 Oct 2017 00:54:16
Yes sorry Pedro not up to it. But hopefully he can change all our minds!



02 Oct 2017 14:20:34
Just looking at the table this morning and we aren't actually doing as bad as most would make us out to be.

Sat joint third, 6 points behind both Celtic and Aberdeen. If it weren't for that awful refereeing in the Hibs game, who knows we could have just been 3 behind. But that's in the past now.

Big games up ahead for us, Saints away and a cup semi final. With Aberdeen playing Hibs then Celtic, hopefully all dropping points against each other. The gap could easily be shortened as long as we perform as we should.



02 Oct 2017 15:35:23
Border ranger you are aware I am sure that we haven't played any of last year's top 4 yet and the only reasonable teams we have played are hearts ( draw) , hibs ( defeat ) and celtic ( defeat ) so I will wait till the first full round of games have finished and then see how we are



02 Oct 2017 16:10:15
Hearts and Celtic finished in the top 4



02 Oct 2017 16:25:05
Yes of course. To be honest I think the fixture list has been fair to us for the first round of 11 games. For the opening 4 games, Motherwell, Hibs, Hearts and Dundee (? ) I wouldve expected at least 9 or 10 points but that obviously wasnt the case. As the league goes on the team *should* be gelling and performing better. Can't imagine what state we would be in playing Dons, Saints and Hibs in the opening few fixtures.

BT pointed out on Friday that Pedro hasn't lost an away game since joining and our next 3 league games are Saints away, Killie at home and Hearts away (dunno if they're still at Murrayfield then) Again I would expect 9 points but realistically we'll win 2 and draw 1.

Be good to see where we are sat then as December will be a big month starting with back to back Aberdeen games.



02 Oct 2017 18:01:18
Baz the bear if you want to be pedantic to make a point check the facts . yes Celtic 2 places above us last year, hearts 2 places below us as st j were 4th. and hibs were in the championship so were 10 places below us and I might add 1 pt from 9 at home to these 3.and every team we have beaten this year are either bottom six now or were last season. we need results now .



02 Oct 2017 18:44:38
So hearts and Celtic were in the top 4 then



02 Oct 2017 19:36:22
Jonny G

Fair enough st Johnstone finished above hearts. Big deal.

The win at Motherwell is looking a good result, Hibs game we were a bit unlucky and hearts parked the bus.

Motherwell and Hibs will do well this year.

You should take your own advice though when banging on about stats.



02 Oct 2017 19:41:36
Baz the bear

No Hearts finished 5th it was St Johnstone finished 4th as for the Hibs game we could have easily lost that even if Jack had stayed on the park



02 Oct 2017 23:13:45
this is the thing a lot of rangers fans can't or refuse to see.

yeah sure we are still not at the level required but if anyone thought we would be after just 8 million quid being spent then they need a reality check.

rangers will continue to build in january and as long as we kkep the same mangaer and staff then i think we have a good chance next year.

id like to see the manager bringing in moult and walker is good but i'm sure we could get a better winger.

all this we need a new manager stuff does nothing for the team exceptput us back the way.

look at some of his signings yes not all of them have hit the ground running but if anyone thought that they would then they where kidding themselves on.
let the man build



03 Oct 2017 00:56:04
Build a team? You don't get time at rangers mate, you need to win!



03 Oct 2017 08:49:34
One for you Peds! Bearing in mind Cardosa cost over a million pounds is he really any better than Danny Wilson. Given that our left wing place is a problem and there was interest in england for windass. We could have got Walker and still been in a financially better position oh and look at what we got for garner and paid for herrera. Look at garners stats for ipswich.
Broadly our budget has been wasted



03 Oct 2017 17:09:35
Johnyg hibs and hearts should be going back to edinburgh empty handed we are Rangers ibrox is fortress or should be so hearts and doing well cuts no ice



02 Oct 2017 14:12:43
Why are so many fans turning on Kenny Miller. we all know he hasn't been great this season but maybe ave has finally caught up with him. but to turn on him and brand him the leak is a disgrace. Kenny has been a superb professional. a model pro if you like. I'm just shocked how quickly so many fans have turned on him without any evidence that he's the person leaking stories to the press. for all we know Kenny said a few home truths at the meeting after the Celtic game and the gaffer didn't like it. I just hope this isn't how his rangers career ends as he doesn't deserve it to end this way. but hopefully the truth comes out and we can get to know what really happened.



02 Oct 2017 14:24:49
Del - well put.

Simply, Kenny deserves our trust and loyalty - as a player with 7 years service.
It smacks a little of the Barton situation for me in all honesty, and whilst Kenny isn't quite as hot headed as Joe, I think what you said may have hit the nail on the head.

How many players at our club can say they know the level of expectancy and have thrived and achieved under it?
Kenny. that's it.

The rest have played for, with no disrespect to them, mediocre teams or teams where the need to win isn't as great. Kenny knows what being a Rangers player, in a successful team over two previous spells, is all about.

It just dismays me to see how our loyal, awesome fan base turn so quickly on people like Kenny. No evidence whatsoever, and a written statement from Jackson stating categorically that he wasn't the leak. A few months back it was set in stone, its Wallace, he is the leak!

Now because the scenario fits, its Kenny.



02 Oct 2017 16:19:14
Spot on blue blazer. I can't believe how quickly people have turned on him. I know football fans are fickle but this is on another scale. as i said I just hope his gers career doesn't end like this.



02 Oct 2017 21:18:36
Its bloody disgracefull guys, kenny has been a great player for rangers. i'm getting stick for voicing my discontent with the Manager. Like it was put, another scapegoat to avert the attention away from the Manager imo.
O'halloran
Forrester
Mckay
Now kenny miller.
It seems to me when things are not going pc's way there is a player dropped, loaned out or just shipped out.
Until we know for sure who is leaking info or what happened between kenny and pc then we should reserve judgement.



02 Oct 2017 23:12:11
Aye and we'll take a written statement from Keek Jackson as gospel!



02 Oct 2017 23:57:56
Yes Kenny deserves loyalty of course he does, he's given plenty to Rangers. Unless he is the leak or questioned the managers thinking, in which case he should be out on his a*se, no question. Oh and O'Halloran, Forrester and McKay, were not punted out to divert attention from the manager. They were sh*te plain and simple.



03 Oct 2017 10:57:19
Onion jack would u rather take a written statement from on here?
Mind people said u would sign van persie speak brazillian spent 10m oh and ofcourse challenge celtic 😂



04 Oct 2017 00:37:48
@rayman - you don't half talk Tom Kite! You're needing to give your arse a rest and use your mouth once in a while. RVP? Wee bit rich considering you lot were creaming your pants at Zlatan coming to the piggery ( the Larson connection 😂)! And it was some of your lot on here ( Pud, Kaney83 ) who thought Mexico was in South America! And yes at the start of every season we have to be optimistic we'll challenge for the title. Otherwise what's the point?



02 Oct 2017 11:44:40
Whilst I am trying to maintain a level of composure - the amount of drivel written on here about Kenny Miller is nothing but absolute tosh.
He has achieved more in his Rangers career than the "manager" ever will.
For me, it is pretty plain to see that he has squandered a large sum of money on the two Mexican boys, Dalcio and Nemane.
Dorrans is being played out of position in order to accommodate Pena - making him look worse than he is.

I tried giving him time, but, a club of our stature should not be appointing managers with such a poor CV - it is that simple.

Look across the City. Brenda may be a lot of things, but he is far and ahead the best manager in the league for the last decade. They went out and made a statement with his appointment, whereas I feel that we were given a lucky dip.

Anyone who has been convinced by our performances during Pedros tenure needs examining in the head.

And back to my original point, the sheer volume of people so quickly to turn on people who have given so much to the club is shocking.

McCulloch, Miller, McCoist, Ferguson et al

Notice we aren't nominated for any fans awards. I wonder why.



02 Oct 2017 12:23:46
Dalcio and Nemane cost nothing both are loans Dalcio doesn't look much but has had limited time and Nemane needs some game time I reckon he's better than Windass just hasn't had a chance yet.



02 Oct 2017 13:04:04
I would hazard a guess that we are paying a bit of their salary though



02 Oct 2017 13:06:58
Good post mate, I usually come on here for the laff as its comical at times but everything u say makes sense.
Kenny Miller is respected even by Celtic fans as he always gives his all, to castigate 1 of your own like this is outrageous and I feel its just because the way your playing at the minute and all your frustrations are being heaped on him.
There is NO evidence whatsoever its him, and the 1 man who would know Keith Jackson (I no fan of by the way), says its not.
Now I know they can't reveal their sources but I have never seen a journalist (loosely) come out and say who its not, as he will have to back it up if it all come to wash.



02 Oct 2017 14:10:35
TheBlueBlazer

It's now at the stage that no one can say anything about the manager without some fans on here taking offence and having a go back. The players you mentioned are all Rangers greats and are only giving their opinions. Some people just can't handle the truth



02 Oct 2017 14:14:11
rayman not many will agree with you lol
It is one thing about being a football fan, we are a fickle bunch - but normally loyalty is one thing we can pride ourselves on. The last few years, unfortunately, this is the opposite toward some players that actually deserve it.



02 Oct 2017 14:28:52
Sparky, I just find it sad is all, that we are basically a premium brand, selling a sub par product with a salesman trying to suggest our FIAT Punto is a Porsche 911.

The thing is, its not just the likes of Sutton/ Hartson/ Stewart etc that like to put the boot in that are saying it, its people that I respect in the world of football going. wait a minute. this guy just isn't cut out for it.
I would still love to hear from the board as to why this man, with no real pedigree or track record, was deemed a suitable candidate to lead our team - and handed a large sum of money to spend when we are in financial difficulty at present.



02 Oct 2017 16:00:58
Your right mate some have a cheek to use the word loyal on here lol. 😁



02 Oct 2017 18:02:00
Kenny Miller, total professional, good guy, Rangers man. Just hope they can work it out. He is my top man. Dunbar Blue



02 Oct 2017 22:26:31
Ferguson, Boyd, Rae, Thomson, have to sniped from the sidelines and offer nothing but negative comments. I say support the manager. Yes he has made mistakes but clearly has passion for our club in its current predicament and has a desire and willingness to turn things around. Too many ex players now picking up a wage in the media are promoting their own self interest at expense of the club.



02 Oct 2017 22:30:00
Dalcio isn't Mexcian he's Portuguese and on loan. Hererra and Pena cost around 4 Million.



02 Oct 2017 22:39:02
@thebb - Celtic got lucky with Brenda in that he was available - do you think they would have got him if he was still employed with Liverpool.
And better men than those you stated above have been chased out the managerial hotseat so no sympathy from me for guys who are getting paid to slate our club.



03 Oct 2017 11:01:03
Many a good manager has been sacked onion jack. Morinho Ancellotti etc.
How come its ok for u to have a go at your club but not others.
Mate me thinks its not what they are saying but who they are.
If it wad big DJ your opionion would differ.



04 Oct 2017 00:38:07
@rayman99 - unlike your lot, I can form my own opinions. As soon as someone goes against the Celtic Family he's banished. I take it the great Lubo will get the same treatment now that he agrees with Dave King that it's no great achievement Celtic winning anything without Rangers being there?



02 Oct 2017 03:15:07
Think we will slowly improve under PC. IF we can get a good run on the go and get some momentum behind us we can close the gap considerabley. Keep it tight and if we stay 8 or less behind until Xmas who knows what could happen.



02 Oct 2017 06:33:49
Whens this good run going to start? We've been waiting far to long now, we can't even beat partick over 90 mins in two games! If you can't see that we simply are not good enough then fair enough but we are not even second best i'm affraid.



02 Oct 2017 07:42:15
The next 4 games are crucial. Two away games against teams around us and the semi final must win them all and then we can surely push on from there.

We have been scoring goals this season which is the main difference from last season, if we tighten up at the back we can be a good side.



02 Oct 2017 12:00:21
We are uninspiring, best word to describe the full club at the minute.



02 Oct 2017 13:22:36
The sooner ped and his piss poor portugese and mexican banditos are gone the better. We will be lucky to beat hibs to 3rd spot. Those who can't see this are deluded and need a reality check.



02 Oct 2017 23:16:29
@coldo - a Hivs team that are currently behind us in the league. You are basing this assumption on them luckily beating us and a draw for them at the piggery yet they couldn't even beat Hamilton at home!



03 Oct 2017 21:25:53
We couldn't beat partick in 90 mins union jack, what's your point? Aberdeen and hibs are more than capable of beating us to 2nd and 3rd. Take the blue specs off UJ.



03 Oct 2017 22:48:12
@coldo - I'm asking you on what basis Hibs will beat us to 3rd place? There is no evidence they are that great either. It will all come down to how much points we all take off each other. Time you actually put the blue specs on and started supporting your team instead of the constant negativity.



04 Oct 2017 09:44:41
I support my team UJ that's why I won't accept the pish that's served up today. I don't wear the blue specs because I'm a realist and I call it as it is. If you wear the specs for too long you end up blabbering out pathetic excuses which leads to delusion. And UJ there is more evidence to suggest that hibs will finish 3rd. Its funny how you never questioned me about aberdeen finishing above us yet you take issue with hibs finishing above us. Is that because you agree that aberdeen will finish above us? No wonder the celtic fans hang out you, saying that I'm hanging out you for them.



04 Oct 2017 19:49:53
@coldo - none of us can accept 2nd best but we are where we are due to financial mismanagement and poor recruitment since 2012.
So where’s the evidence for Hibs finishing 3rd?
As for never mentioning Aberdeen you weren’t debating them. I believe that if we put a run together 2nd is a possibility.

I also don’t get the ‘ hang out ‘ part? I’ve never heard that phrase before so you’ll need to enlighten me though I’ve heard the ‘ delusional ‘ Tom Kite before, mainly from Celtic fans so are you a Soap Dodger in disguise?



04 Oct 2017 22:31:30
If you read my post UJ I clearly say that aberdeen and hibs are more than capable of finishing above us, so how you can say I'm not debating aberdeen is beyond me? Anyway hibs are a much better side than us at the moment, they beat us and drew with celtic pretty much confirms that, aberdeen are joint top. We are struggling to get a couple of wins together. So that's evident enough as to why we might struggle to get 3rd. I can understand why they call you deluded.



05 Oct 2017 06:43:15
@coldo - that's not evidence that's your opinion. Evidence is that we've played the same amount of games as Hibs and they are still behind us even though they've taken 4 points from these 2 games and we've taken none. But final league positions aren't decided on head to head / Celtic games. Granted this also confirms that at this moment The Sheep are better than us but I believe in my opinion we'll reel them in over the course of the season. One man's delusion is another mans optimism but you being on the negative juice would know feck all about that.



05 Oct 2017 09:08:54
Its not my opinion that they beat us and drew with celtic, that really did happen so that is evidence that they can play in big games, we don't turn up in big games evident by our results in the big games. Hence my earlier statement, they are more than capable of beating us to 3rd. Maybe I'm not saying it clearly enough for you UJ, but that's simple english so I hope its simple enough for you. #losethespecs



06 Oct 2017 10:41:13
@coldo - and obviously I’m not putting it in dolly dimple terms for you. It’s a fact they are still behaving and us in the league ( check the table - that’s evidence ) so they are dropping more points against the lesser teams than we are. So in my opinion over the course of the season we’ll finish above them and reel in The Sheep.
Just remember opinions are like arseholes everyone has one in my opinion.



 
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