Rangers Banter Archive June 30 2012

30 Jun 2012 20:26:00
all you rangers fans on here spouting how other clubs wont survive without you .just remember you wont survive without them either so show a bit of humble pie then you might get so respect from others . i feel sorry for the supporters who already realise this and are greatful for anything other clubs will do for their team

OP Think you should read more about the possible financial impact of RFC being out of the SPL for more than a season.
The clubs in the SFL will only benefit from the newco with the travelling support and increased media attention.
There are no clubs who have stated they will do something for RFC, other than Kilmarnock that I know of. But of course they may feel the backlash from the SPL fans who will bhoycott their ground. Is that what you call respect?

Respect is something that must be earned--not a given right.What this 'will do something for RFC?'--pass a hat round?Only yourselves to blame and ALL clubs know that --even Killie

Jardine and brown making more clubs dislike sevco 5088 each time they speak

Sa bhoy

Scottish football will survive without the old Rangers. It may well not survive in its present format, but may require major change.

I suspect that will entail the majority of clubs going part-time. I don't see anything wrong with part-time football. It's realistic and in all probability a sitauation that some clubs should have adopted years ago.

Whether senior executives at the footballing authorities will be able to maintain their present salaries is or course another matter.

A new Rangers working its way up the league will have huge respect in the SPL. Scottish football will be just fine.

30 Jun 2012 20:01:55
Id give lee wallace the captaincy. Has said the right things and is commited. Good riddance whittaker and lafferty both overpaid anyway. The walking away squad have a Total lack of respect for the fans and the club. We wouldnt have expected them to play in the lower leagues but they could hav come back and been sold. There transfer fees could hav helped get the club on a sound financial footing to get us up and running again

I think they know that there is more to come and they had to move on now. Is it also not the case that ally is an agent for some ? Green cannot afford to run ibrox for 3 years without the season ticket money. Otherwise he could apply to div 3,sack ally and rebuild. You have to ask where ally stands now. Is bomber fronting for Walter ? Who is sandy jardine with ? Why have all the others gone quiet? Holy sh1t who shot jr ?

You want transfer fees but you dont pay them....b

30 Jun 2012 18:12:07
hi sevco Scotland fans how are you all feeling today. hope all the worries about getting your season tickets have not kept you all up

charlesgreencsc

hail hail

Marco1888

30 Jun 2012 17:53:42
Every cloud.....

HEARTS last night revealed season-ticket sales have gone through the roof since Vladimir Romanov ranted against a Rangers newco in the SPL.
They have now sold 8000 and recorded their highest weekly sale since the days after their Scottish Cup final win against old rivals Hibs in May.
Raging Romanov last Thursday issued a statement that ripped into past Rangers regimes and
delivered an emphatic No to Newco in the top flight.
And fans – lifted by the Tynecastle chief’s stance – have responded big time. Season books sold at three times the rate of the week before Romanov’s rant and the club are well on the way to surpassing last season’s figure of more than 10,000.

Very odd. Hearts fans don't know whether to love or loathe the guy. And if anyone has the potential to change their mind about Rangers it will be Romanov.

Dont know whats odd about it, he told it how it is in his statement so why should he now or in the future change his mind? The Hearts fans agree with and respect him for his stance on this issue hence the increase in ST sales.

I think this is the start of proof that it isnt all doom and gloom as allot of people are predicting with rangers not being in spl.... allot of people are just saying it because they either want it to be like that or are wanting to make rangers important enough to stay and just using guesework.... a couple of people have doen thorough investigatins into it and it isnt as bad as people all believe.... i guese we will find out in due course.

30 Jun 2012 16:29:43
the players that stay with the club and help the cause will be remembered more than the ones that jumped ship for greed the 75% wage cuts will be forgotten jumping ship made sure of that.

If the players were so called rangers men at all,they would hav signed with the newco with a reduced transfer fee release clause and got some money for the club they love when they got sold in the coming weeks. no one would grudge the players a move, we wish them all the best and we all move on. but to leave for nothing leaves a bitter taste in the mouth and these players have lost a lot of respect from the rangers fans

They didn't jump for greed. They jumped because they needed and wanted to secure a future for themselves and their families. Playing for Rangers couldn't promise that and you'd do exactly the same if your own future was on shaky ground.

Hail Hail
ChrisBhoy

ChrisBhoy has actually come out with a decent comment for once. Probably won t see to many more from him, but credit where it is due.

Whittaker was on 25000 aweek so to say he had to secure a future for his family is nonesence he was a wealthy guy and Rangers made him that , as for lafferty he thinks hes better than he is, Rangers made him wealthy too so the least they could have done was return the favour and got Rangers a tranfer fee, crockodile tears from whittaker and naismith driven by GREED GREED GREED,.

Look, there is no way Whittaker and co will be kept on by Green anyway. He can't afford £25k per week for one player. He would have sold Whittaker to Norwich anyway and everyone who thinks this through will realise this. How can Whittaker and co be loyal to a club that is intent on offloading them?

30 Jun 2012 15:56:48
Statement from Clyde FC..excellent reading....The Club has received a set of papers in advance of the SFL meeting on Tuesday. The essential intent behind those papers is to induce the SFL clubs to agree a proposal to allow a Newco to enter the SFL in the 1st Division in exchange for a range of structural changes to the current set up and some small financial inducements. Some of the proposed changes have merit in principle.

The Board believe that any proposals for change should not be rushed, as these have been. They also have to be done by consensus and not through threat or inducement, again, as these have been.

The papers include a proposal to allow a Newco to enter the 1st Division. This is contrary to the rules of the SFL and nothing within the papers justifies this proposal.

As a club owned by its supporters and recovering from having been on the brink of extinction, the Board of Clyde Football Club recognise the damage done to the credibility of Rangers Football Club by its successive owners, and the subsequent impact on staff and supporters. These proposals do nothing to restore that credibility.

It is not for us to become involved in punishment, that is a matter for the SPL and SFA. The SFL clubs are being asked to change their rules so that the SPL and SFA can apply sanctions that fit short term financial interests.

It is not for us to tell any club what they should want for themselves, but to enter anywhere other than the 3rd Division risks Rangers Football Club being burdened with the legacy of commencing its rebuilding in a manner that they later look back on with regret. Rangers Football Club does not need to be handed a competitive advantage, they are more than capable of returning to the SPL via the 3rd Division on their own merit. Rebuilding from the bottom can restore the dignity stripped from the club by its former owners.

The papers use emotive language to threaten a future of financial meltdown and they carry the implication of the destruction of the game should a Newco not be entered in the 1st Division. If things are as bad as indicated then Scottish Football is in a far worse state than is being acknowledged. In which case it is time to accept the bankrupt model needs fixed and not supported and perpetuated on the back of this proposal. The fact that other clubs might face similar financial distress because Rangers Football Club enter the 3rd Division is hardly a reason to compromise the integrity of the SFL and further compromise Rangers Football Club.

Rather than attempting to prepare a soft landing before delivering sanctions, it would be better to contemplate more radical change that might actually underpin financial stability in the long term for clubs that balance their books. Perhaps an amnesty from sanctions for clubs that are forced to face insolvency procedures in the next 2 years as a result of the current turmoil, and an automatic entry to the 3rd Division for any club liquidated and reformed in similar circumstances. This would allow 2 years to properly restructure the Scottish Game for the benefit of all and undo the damage that has been created by the current structure which encourages club directors to trade integrity for cash, and then spend beyond their means, willingly risking the very existence of football clubs. If we could believe that the game could be less self interested long enough to resolve this, then this, and other far better ideas, might be worth contemplating.

SPL clubs that have openly stated their opposition to a Newco being given immediate access to the SPL have taken the position based on their, and at times, their supporters' view of what is the right thing to do, however, the vote has still to be taken and proposals such as these are premature. If the SPL clubs vote as indicated on the basis of the increasingly discredited notion of sporting integrity, it would be questionable if the SFL clubs did otherwise.

The reality is that we are faced with unique circumstances and it would be foolish to pretend otherwise, that probably means that compromise for some is inevitable, and perhaps even worthwhile for everyone in the long term. The solution however is not this hastily cobbled together proposal.

The Board of this club sees no merit whatsoever in adopting this proposal.

30 Jun 2012 15:20:16
Iam sick of hearing us not wishing the best to players who all done their bit on the pitch & off.here is why.
The players that left made a choice in life not football greed nor money.if so why take a 75% cut then put on some good games.
They are now gone thanks guys well played n good luck.
On here i have herd disloyal traitor judas.
Secondly to the 13 that stayed well done to them the foundations of the future get praised a hero status these players have put their livelyhood on newco their morgages their kids clothes food holidays.
My point is if the players that left are treasonists the ones that have risked everything what does that make the loyal that wont give club the blood it needs to move by season tickets regardless of anything when everyone else has made a desicion the loyal still on fence.
I beleive ones not are worse than the players that left.
We either all move on or we dont.
Iam really mad at the vile over players that left whilst same ones spilling it wont commit a few hundred to renew book but slate players who wont put livelyhood on it.
Stand up to the plate renew instead of contradicting yourselfes.

30 Jun 2012 14:55:47
Can anyone say for sure that bomber was drunk the other night? If he was then do we really want him in a position of responsibility? - Jaxie

Head out of the sand time and for all involved in Scottish football - including media hacks - to finally realise that unfortunately Rangers once officially liquidated cease to exist. Only then can the new club move forward and attract supporters to it without any baggage.

30 Jun 2012 14:39:22
Rangers have announced that they are banking with Metro Bank.

There is no presence in Scotland with only 11 branches, all in London.

Sounds very much like the main banks have refused commercial banking facilities to Rangers.

Also, Rangers are unable to collect season ticket money by direct debit.

Mac2.

30 Jun 2012 14:23:09
Kyle Lafferty signs for Sion after leaving Rangers
30 June 12 13:51

Northern Ireland striker Kyle Lafferty has joined Sion on a three-year deal after saying he wished to leave Rangers, the Swiss club have confirmed.
"He will be presented at a press conference on Monday, then will join his new team-mates for training," the Swiss club said in a statement.
Moments earlier, Norwich City announced that they had signed Rangers' Scotland defender, Steven Whittaker.

30 Jun 2012 14:06:23
How many exactly have left with Whittaker and lafferty signed up elsewhere?
And the three yanks not coming back. When does the transfer window open? 4th July? There's a coincidence.... No SPL and everybody walks.

30 Jun 2012 13:48:24
The Club has received a set of papers in advance of the SFL meeting on Tuesday. The essential intent behind those papers is to induce the SFL clubs to agree a proposal to allow a Newco to enter the SFL in the 1st Division in exchange for a range of structural changes to the current set up and some small financial inducements. Some of the proposed changes have merit in principle.

The Board believe that any proposals for change should not be rushed, as these have been. They also have to be done by consensus and not through threat or inducement, again, as these have been.

The papers include a proposal to allow a Newco to enter the 1st Division. This is contrary to the rules of the SFL and nothing within the papers justifies this proposal.

As a club owned by its supporters and recovering from having been on the brink of extinction, the Board of Clyde Football Club recognise the damage done to the credibility of Rangers Football Club by its successive owners, and the subsequent impact on staff and supporters. These proposals do nothing to restore that credibility.

It is not for us to become involved in punishment, that is a matter for the SPL and SFA. The SFL clubs are being asked to change their rules so that the SPL and SFA can apply sanctions that fit short term financial interests.

It is not for us to tell any club what they should want for themselves, but to enter anywhere other than the 3rd Division risks Rangers Football Club being burdened with the legacy of commencing its rebuilding in a manner that they later look back on with regret. Rangers Football Club does not need to be handed a competitive advantage, they are more than capable of returning to the SPL via the 3rd Division on their own merit. Rebuilding from the bottom can restore the dignity stripped from the club by its former owners.

The papers use emotive language to threaten a future of financial meltdown and they carry the implication of the destruction of the game should a Newco not be entered in the 1st Division. If things are as bad as indicated then Scottish Football is in a far worse state than is being acknowledged. In which case it is time to accept the bankrupt model needs fixed and not supported and perpetuated on the back of this proposal. The fact that other clubs might face similar financial distress because Rangers Football Club enter the 3rd Division is hardly a reason to compromise the integrity of the SFL and further compromise Rangers Football Club.

Rather than attempting to prepare a soft landing before delivering sanctions, it would be better to contemplate more radical change that might actually underpin financial stability in the long term for clubs that balance their books. Perhaps an amnesty from sanctions for clubs that are forced to face insolvency procedures in the next 2 years as a result of the current turmoil, and an automatic entry to the 3rd Division for any club liquidated and reformed in similar circumstances. This would allow 2 years to properly restructure the Scottish Game for the benefit of all and undo the damage that has been created by the current structure which encourages club directors to trade integrity for cash, and then spend beyond their means, willingly risking the very existence of football clubs. If we could believe that the game could be less self interested long enough to resolve this, then this, and other far better ideas, might be worth contemplating.

SPL clubs that have openly stated their opposition to a Newco being given immediate access to the SPL have taken the position based on their, and at times, their supporters' view of what is the right thing to do, however, the vote has still to be taken and proposals such as these are premature. If the SPL clubs vote as indicated on the basis of the increasingly discredited notion of sporting integrity, it would be questionable if the SFL clubs did otherwise.

The reality is that we are faced with unique circumstances and it would be foolish to pretend otherwise, that probably means that compromise for some is inevitable, and perhaps even worthwhile for everyone in the long term. The solution however is not this hastily cobbled together proposal.

The Board of this club sees no merit whatsoever in adopting this proposal.

 

30 Jun 2012 13:12:27
Norwich to go down next season after signing traitor boy... Lol! One player who won't be missed by Rangersfc..

Not as far down as you lot are going. Cheerios. Andycfc

Is there no end to your bitterness?What harm did Norwich do you?They have fans too----don't wish them ill,sad man

30 Jun 2012 12:50:08
Now we know what Green's Plan B is
with Gattuso, now Lafferty going to
Sion, he is gradually letting all the
players slip away to sign one by one
at Sion, then hey presto, an reincarnation
of old Rangers plays in Swiss league..
simples... Timalloy

I wonder why, because lee wallace says rangers have not died. well this guy is kidding himself on and he must stop this nonsense. the fact is rangers are dead and gone

30 Jun 2012 11:35:45
Wee change of subject bears. can any of the thousands of "supporters who leave 10 minutes before the end of the game tell my why they do this, it is a disgrace and total disrespect to the team on the park and the supporters who go the 90 mins, every time i see it i get a little crazy,

JG {Ed001's Note - that is my bug bear too! Every team has them and I have no idea why they bother, they still get caught up in the traffic just the same. I remember getting back to the car with the group I was getting a lift off after the second Liverpool-Newcastle 4-3 match. They left with 5 min to go and it was 3-0 to Liverpool and didn't know what the hell had happened, all they knew was that the crowd were going wild.}

I usually stay the 90 mins. But have on occaisions left before the final whistle ranging from 5 to 10mins.
The reasons for doing so were,
Had to go to an important night out.
Young son wanting to leave.
Left in protest during the Greig management period.
Have known some people who have left to go straight onto a shift.
The subway nowadays is ten times better than what it was. Back in the 70s and 80s it was jam them in time and you were crushed till you got off. I can understand people, say elderly and ones with young kids back then leaving early cos of that but nowadays much more organised and not long to wait.
The majority of games I leave at the final whistle toddle along and get a pint, meet the mates then head home via the empty subway.

When I had my season ticket, we used to leave a few minutes early, as we had a 400+ mile round trip to do. It made all the difference, and probably saved an hour on homeward journey. That was my reason, I believe I was entitled to it too.

30 Jun 2012 11:16:25
The comments regarding Green making progress, engaging fans, SFA membership, trying to secure the players on contracts etc.. Put football to one side for a moment. He is doing the basics in business by clearing the decks, stabilising the operations, obtaining regulatory (SFA/SPL) membership & approval, securing stock (players) and filling the order book (season ticket sales). These are standard corporate recovery practices. Due dilligence would demand these fundamentals are in place first to realise any uplift on your original investment. People may choose to believe it is all for the football club & to put it on a stable footing but it is clear it is rather to create immediate value, increase the balance sheet, boost asset valuations etc as quickly as possible. Ultimately, his actions show he is ensuring the newco is actually worth purchasing off of him and is maximising the company's selling price- and his (& his mostly unknown or undisclosed investors) return..

So in effect he is doing exactly what he said he would do? In fact he is doing what any sensible businessman would do.He also has to do this to affect a credit rating,something that sevco does not have.Why not admit it,your in the Brown camp,an ex player who wants to use fans cash to buy himself in.And he has been very quiet of late,whats the secret story John?

I'm sorry but I don't understand the point behind your post. Any one who bought the club would be doing exactly the same as Greene, otherwise how could you move the business forward. If he sells quickly then so be it, at least he will leave a club which is of some value and, more importantly, in a league

Very good but did he lodge the £160,000 to secure membership ???

30 Jun 2012 11:08:52
I see from today's press that Green has submitted the information pack to the SFA regarding the newco applying for SFA membership. As for the plans for Rangers to play in the First Division next season, Falkirk, Raith Rovers & Dunfermline all now objecting. How pathetic of Dunfermline to also object to Dundee being promoted. Why shouldn't they be? Dunfermline were proved to be not good enough for the SPL last season by finishing bottom. And what makes these teams think the newco Gers will romp the first division? We might be playing with a team of under 21s the way things are going! Relegation to the First Division is punishment enough. The SPL, SFA and all these hypocritical, self-preservationists who run the other Scottish teams should now shut up. My goodness, I'd laugh if Hearts or Dundee Utd won the SPL next season! Remember, with Rangers not there, the other SPL teams won't drop as many points as before. WATP.

Dunfermline do have a gripe about being relegated. Aberdeen, Motherwell and Inverness Caley T have all been saved from the drop previously by non footballing rules. The reason they will not want RFC in the 1st is because they could provide a real threat to them being promoted.
But yes the SPL, SFA and SFL making up rules as they plod along.

What they wont drop as many points? perhaps 12 points they may have dropped against the old rangers but i doubt thats enough to win the league look at the points totals for last season what ru on about

YOOOOUUUUUUS WILLLLL BEEEEEE a
NEWCLUB,
applying to join the league so yous should join at the bottom and be thankful your are not being asked to submit 3 years audited accounts as the rules state.
It is not punishment or relegation it is a NEWCLUB, DEARY DEARY ME WHAT IS IT GOING TO TAKE,
And you wonder why some fans think yous are arrogant ,
Start afresh in div3 and I for one will change my attitude towards yous and start to respectyour integrity.
Yous REALLY REALLY need to take account of what others think of you.Ps good luck to all if yous start where yous should.

You won't be in Div 1 mate it will be Div 3 like any other newco, it's not a punishment it's the rules.
Bigbr

Be clear, it's not relegation. RFC are being expelled from SPL.

Newco/TRFC are applying for entry to SFL as a new team.

Been reading a site about St Mirren and their chairman titled, St Mirren, Anti-Rangers. They are shouting about sporting integrity, not being able to downsize in time without Rangers in the SPL and inevitably people having to lose their jobs. Well done one all who shout "sporting integrity", who is really suffering in all this mess.
Already without a ball kicked the SPL is starting to look like the league of Wales.
So for all the anti-rangers hating supporters making threats, well done, yes Rangers suffer and as a Rangers fan I agree with punishments but explain what are we being punished for,
£160,000 fine
10 point deduction
attempted transfer embargo
relegation????
And the ones who behind the scenes who lose their jobs what are they being punished for? Morale highground?
Well done to you all!!

Always Rangers.........

Interesting point. Yes, last season Celtic need only have beaten Rangers assuming both old firm did "fairly well" against the pack. This season Celtic will need to make sure they get the better of all the other top teams.

Failure of Rangers to start in Div3 will end Scottish football.
I'm not renewing my season ticket over this SFA threat of spl2, it's sickening.

Number 6 how many times does this need explaining to you people?
£160,000 fine - for bringing the game into disrepute. Described as "only match fixing being worse."
10 pt deduction, for going into administration, no one's fault bar Rangers.
Embargo - should have taken it as next sanction will most likely be worse, again for bringing the game into disrepute.
Relegation - as a new co it was an inevitability.
To date most if not all perceived punishments have been consequences of mismanagement. You all celebrated the big signings and trophies won under Murray and Whyte's one flag unfurling, this is the consequences. I'm not saying one necessarily led to the other, though probable, I merely mean that with all CEO's etc if you embrace their good times then you have to take the negative too.
Yet again though another fan agreeing with punishments and then questioning every last thing brought down so far. That is not agreeing!
As for jobs, of course Rangers admin staff etc don't deserve this and I doubt anyone is getting joy out of it but I'd be surprised if losses there are more than minimal, have you heard of any non-playing staff getting made redundant yet? If so what are the numbers.

@9
How many times do you need it explained?
You cannot be relegated,or demoted from the SPL!
There is no lower league that runs within the auspices of the SPL. The SFL is a completely different entity and organisation.
The only other option was expulsion from Scottish football. This was considered too harsh. Get your facts right.
P.O.B.

#6
What relegation yous are being liquidated
not relegated.
10pts for going into admin
£160k fine unpaid
So what is this punishment you speak of

In response to 9 Green will not spend an unnecessary penny on non-playing staff.
If it's SFL3 at least 66% will go.

30 Jun 2012 10:58:39
There is one thing which I think is becoming clearer, as this 'what league?' scenario plods on. It is not the silence from Celtic Park nor the 'Lawwell is playing a blinder' claim, but it is the overwhelming realisation that CFC's opinion does not matter.
It has been mentioned that it is the 'rebel 10' in the SPL but not really, it is the majority of clubs in the SPL that are now pulling the strings in an open for and against vote. How will that span out if this 'majority vote' is used for other decisions in the SPL?
While it is clear RFC are not in the SPL it could be that the writing is on the wall for CFC re the share of TV and gate revenues. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
Yes the 'Old Firm' are no more.

The old firm are indeed no more,because one part of it will not exist soon.Please forget this sharing gate nonsense,at best they will get more TV cash.

@1) really, watch this space. The others will vote for their good not yours.No more rangers and cetic blocking votes.You are in denial sunbeam.reread some of the spl chairmen statements, CQN sussed it.

@1 I think you should wake up.
Some of the other clubs in the SPL increased their ticket prices just for RFC or CFC games. They now only have one big team in the SPL but 11 others who all have a vote. CFC's opinion will be irrelevant.

30 Jun 2012 10:52:53
Looking at the posts...Season book money- whats the rush to pay newco? A fool and his money are soon parted. Good advice would be to hold fire at present, at least to see how the dust settles on the important footballing matters- a few weeks anyway. That provides fans with some very important leverage with newco regarding answers on any queries, investors, fan representation on the board & future business plans......

30 Jun 2012 10:44:53
I am absolutely disgusted with some of the comments being made about players leaving Rangers,the same players who won us titles for three years,you make me sick,you spout total childish nonsense ,filled with bile,if you feel like that,how do you expect players in the future to sign for us,spiteful pillocks,if we go down to div3,dont bother turning up to support Rangers,go watch some other team,shower of idiots,Real Rangers fans support the whole team ,regardless.End rant.Always a Ranger.

30 Jun 2012 10:20:03
Let's face it all these players leaving don't give a toss about rangers they and their predecessors can shoulder some blame for the mess at ibrox them and their agents bled the club dry for years so spare us the crocodile tears as you take to your heals if you were the supporters you claim to be you would have stayed and gave the new regime a fighting chance .

Where would the newco get the money to pay these players if they are in div3

30 Jun 2012 09:33:51
If charles green wants to do the best for rangers, then he should walk away now, just by being here along with his still unknown consortium he is damaging the one main fabric of this great club, the supporters, can this man not see that it will now be impossible to unite the fans and get full backing for the club, the only way forward for this institution is when every rangers man and boy buy into the rebirth, and this will only happen when real rangers men are at the helm to lead us back to greatness...................

I dont know who you are but if you are a true rangers fan with any sense you must stop all this nonsense about rangers mindede people.Craig Whyte came through the door as a rangers minded person and was greeted with open arms and warm embraces .What my football club needs is stability and support from all the Rangers family , I don't know if Green is good or bad but the fact is for a relatively small fee he holds all the aces , other rangers minded folk had a chance but did nothing perhaps when Green floats the company all these people will invest heavily in the share options and from there we can start to take the club back to where it normally sits ie at the top of Scottish football .In the meantime we should drop to div 3 rebuild and see how the new model Scottish football full of sporting integrity thrives .


RS

Were you sleeping for the last two days, they have announced who is in the consortium on thursday, if green walks now we are dead, its to late for another buy out, we need to move forward not continue with the infighting, we the supporters will get our chance to buy in soon enough and i hope you are then ready to step up and pay.

"the real rangers men' had their cahnce the day we went into admin, in fact they had there chance for 4 yeqar when murray was desperate to sell and what did they do for us then?
lets stop all this real rangers men crap, they are not interested mate

JG

Support him then ..... There is no one else !!!

What a load of total nonsense.Your "rangers men" watched the club slide into liquidation then try to play the hero card by arriving now.This club could implode if fans dont get together.

Whats wrong with u people wont u ever let true honest business men into run your club

The consortium includes, Zeus Capital, Chris Morgan, a UK-based businessman representing family trusts; Glenmuir, the renowned Scottish clothing company, Alessandro Celano of Blue Pitch Holdings, Jude Allen, Mazen Houssami, Elias Kaisar and Mr Jean Haddad.

JG

Are these the household names Green talked of? Yes, I have dealt with Zues Capital before. Utter p*sh!!

30 Jun 2012 07:23:17
Would be interesting to know how many Rangers fans want division three. Let's face it, we've had no help from anyone in this affair. If it finishes five others, it finishes five others so be it. Maybe we should start again just to spite them.

More random stuff getting made-up on the hoof- pay football creditors etc. This must be illegal surely?!? What if you were one of the other creditors? The debts died with the old company chaps- this is how it works.

Division three and we'll see what's left when we get back suits me I think. Many of them have lived off our back for years but were just too stupit to know it. (More precisely their keyboard warrior fans who've had their say). Give them what they want.

Youve had no help in this affair? My god do you expect help after what your shady clubs been upto? Says it all really!

Why should we go to division three? i think relegation to div 1 is a strong enough punishment, in fact i think we should be allowed to stay in SPL if truth be told. Think everyone is letting the hate campaign get to them by accepting div 3, thats my opinion which i am entitled to

JG

Are you joking? You have had no help? What would you like? All the clubs to have a whip round?Are you forgetting it is your clubs own fault you went into administration and liquidation? Your football creditors quote shows you know nothing of the rules.Pathetic really.

30 Jun 2012 02:12:41
Can anyone tell what happens to our history? And who are Greens backers?

We'll just have to wait and see mate.
It's still uncertain whether the proposed new name TRFC will be accepted.
However it would appear that the SFA/SFL still need the Rangers "Brand".
Notice i left out SPL from above.
The reality is they want and need the Brand to continue as well. Only difference is they have to be seen as doing something in the eyes of UEFA.
It's all posturing.
The old firm "cash cow" scenario will always be an overriding factor in any decision.
P.O.B.

In 1899 Rangers were incorporated into a business. As required by SFA regulations for all association teams. The club has been until now an incorporated company. Two both indivisible the same. The Rangers football club from 1899 is being liquidated and it's journey ends. The history of this club will be 1899-2012.
A new Rangers club under Charles Green is being incorporated as a business, as required by the regulations. Green has bought the Assets of the old club for £5.5m.
HE HAS NOT BOUGHT THE OLD CLUB.
The new club is to sort a team, sort a league to play in and sort it's new licenses.
UEFA and Fifa may recognise the new club to play in European competition after 3 years of playing the national association leagues to gain football history as the new club has no football history.
UK corporate regulations on insolvency state that The new club cannot trade on the history/ logos/ badges/ branding or trading styles of the old club.

Glad to have helped.

Again just for you, the backers were announced on thursday FS, on history lets use Ibrox as an example, used to be owned by PLC now owned by Ltd, i will ask you a question, has ibrox lost its history because it was transfered from one COMPANY to another, of course not, has murray park lost its history, no, so a team can also be transfered from one COMPANY to another just the same, how many times did you go to a game to support a COMPANY, does timmy support Celtic plc or football and athletic club? neither he probably is the same as us (maybe not though) and supports a team not a COMPANY, you may have noticed i have emphasised the word COMPANY which is different from a TEAM now do you get it

JG

JG

Its a new club with new history hence why eufa cannot allow you to play in Europe as all clubs that wish to compete in European football must have 3 years history ! Sevco in first month !

Your history is intact(for now) there cannot be any additions to it as that club has ceased to exist

For the last time and for all those who still dont know
The consortium includes, Zeus Capital, Chris Morgan, a UK-based businessman representing family trusts; Glenmuir, the renowned Scottish clothing company, Alessandro Celano of Blue Pitch Holdings, Jude Allen, Mazen Houssami, Elias Kaisar and Mr Jean Haddad.

now you know
JG