Rangers Banter Archive September 30 2017
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30 Sep 2017 20:24:02
Why don't people stop whining over over pc. alex Ferguson finished 12th and 11 in the PL his first years with man u. a team can't dominate without trial and error. we're eight games in and doing not bad after years in the lower leagues. no manager comes in and wins games after games in any European league. also in the real world if you're constantly whining about your boss would you not be sacked if his methods of working didn't suit you adapt or fail. supposed professionals. shut up and do your job.
30 Sep 2017 21:31:47
Ferguson was a different era.
Davie Moyes would still be the United manager if that was the case.
I'm still in Pedros camp but he needs to put together a string of results now. I've said before that Dave King has made it clear second in the league is the minimum.
30 Sep 2017 22:20:24
Agree and we will finish 2nd and win a cup. I expect more to come in in the next window and that will strengthen the squad. To be honest Miller, Kranjar And Wallace to name a few need to move on.
30 Sep 2017 23:38:01
Why are we comparing PC to mourhino, pep and now Alex Ferguson. We beat Hamilton yes but let’s not be mistaken Pedro has lost faith from the fans and I feel his own players are doubting him also. I think Holt is million miles sharper than Pena and Stevie Wonder could see tgat
30 Sep 2017 23:52:25
we should never be happy to finish 2nd.
01 Oct 2017 08:14:12
Blue drama
The majority of True supporters are right behind Pedro and the team. They are the ones that go week in and week out and can see that there is progress happening in the style of play, the standard of players that have been brought in, This is a project that is underway and is in the early stages of development. Do you honestly think that we have not improved since this time last season. i for one year ( and I am not alone) think we have. Get behind the manager and team and give them a chance. Warburton got 18 months but you want to sack Pedro after 6, see the big picture the man needs time with his players to get his ideas across and getting them playing the way he wants them to.
30 Sep 2017 16:05:43
Reading 2 of our ex players this weekend in 2 different newspapers, putting the boot into our manager pedro caixinha! I loved both barry ferguson and kris boyd playing for us! They were superb for glasgow rangers, but here comes the BUT! The 2 of them should bear in mind, that they're not at glasgow rangers anymore and should stop this continual slagging, of our manager pedro caixinha! Where barry ferguson is concerned, i think some of his berating of caixinha, is sour grapes and down to caixinha choosing jonathan johansson, over him, for the no.3 coaching position with us! His brother derek ferguson is also at it by continually bad mouthing the rangers manager! They've unsurprisingly taken the side of kenny miller on this unfortunate incident at our club! Its pedro caixinha who's the glasgow rangers manager, not them! He manages his way and doesn't need advice from any the 2 of them! It has to be his way, as any manager lives or dies by managing clubs, there own way! Baz was a good manager at clyde (NOT)! People in glass houses and all that! Because baz and boydy are very friendly with kenny miller, doesn't make kenny miller correct if he indeed, has been undermining caixinha!
30 Sep 2017 17:20:48
Good honest post Super not like some of the Pedro haters on here, and if just looking at the league table after todays games you know what its not looking to bad so onward we go and in Pedro i trust.
30 Sep 2017 20:36:03
Well said supercoopereleven these so called experts should shut up what experience of management have they got Pedro is the manager and we should get behind him and the team it's a long road back but we are moving in right direction
30 Sep 2017 21:02:44
Great post supercoop what angers me is guys like sutton and Ferguson are failed managers yet they think they can badmouth Pedro and tell us where he's going wrong. If Miller has stepped out of line then the manager has to deal with him well done Pedro.
30 Sep 2017 21:26:13
The ex Scottish players like Barry/ Derek Ferguson, Boyd, Gordon Smith, Gordon Daziell, stevie Thomson have absolutely slated the club recently.
Then you have Nacho Novo, Arthur Numan, Michael Mols,
Ronald de Boer and Wee Dick who can't praise the club highly enough.
Add Neil McCann, Alex Rae and Kevin Thomson who still hold the club in high regard.
What is it with some of the ex players?
30 Sep 2017 21:42:27
That's the game coops, well said.
01 Oct 2017 01:58:44
These players are just giving their opinions. Are they only allowed to give opinions that certain sections of the support like? If you don't like their opinions then don't read what the write anymore
30 Sep 2017 23:44:26
Great post supercoop. Boyd, Rae and Ferguson have all been sniping from the sidelines.
30 Sep 2017 23:48:31
So what your saying is that every ex Gers player should act like Big Derek Johnstone and just spout propaganda as long as it reflects well on the club. Good plan, don't believe the truth. What if, let's say, they are just being honest and they are indeed correct. Did you notice jim traynor sticking to pedro like glue down the tunnel after the game, making sure he briefs him on what to say. The mans a puppet.
01 Oct 2017 10:03:21
Bhampot, You mean like Davie Hay
01 Oct 2017 16:18:10
@bhampot - and yet Celtic fans hate Andy Walker and Charlie Nic as they don't toe the Celtic family line. Even Big Mutton got it tight from Celtic fans for slagging RD and yet now he is lauded because he continually puts the boot into Rangers!
Pot and kettle!
30 Sep 2017 14:44:37
What about we actually get right behind Pedro and the team! Been doubter's from day one, give the man time and respect.
30 Sep 2017 15:13:10
Here here. Let's get right behind the whole team. Warburton had 4 transfer windows. Pedro has had one. He needs time and we should give him it.
30 Sep 2017 16:56:47
I'll get behind him if he can get a run of wins together ( not done 3 in a trot) we must beat top half of league and take Point's from shmellic!
30 Sep 2017 17:14:38
why can't u get behind him until then, bad enough press badmouthing but so called fans.
30 Sep 2017 23:36:54
Agree bgate w, too many on here too ready to rush to judgement, including some former players. Let's all get behind the manager and players. The trip to Canada provides good opportunity for further team bonding.
01 Oct 2017 11:21:31
I think you have to remember that the ex players you're talking about are also fans and much like a lot of fans on here, when a result doesn't go out way, they kick off! This is the nature of our football club, high expectations are hand in hand with high criticism.
30 Sep 2017 14:42:35
If pedro were to go we should look at 42 yr old English manager Graeme potter the Ostersund manager who is doing a brilliant job with them. got them up promoted a few tiers in Sweden. now in top tier and winning in Europa league group games. getting praised a lot about the way he has them playing. doubt king has noticed this though.
30 Sep 2017 14:56:04
No one had heard of Pedro. IF he were to go I don’t think we can afford another gamble.
30 Sep 2017 19:17:55
I'm guessing this guy had built his team up over years Pedro has had 6 months
30 Sep 2017 19:22:11
Yeah it will be a tried and tested manager we go for. I just want someone to come in and steady the ship, you never know all this negative stuff could actually bring them together. Last night was a better performance.
30 Sep 2017 14:42:06
dont think Friday and Monday nights do much for televised matches.
Why don't they do Saturday evenings? Seems to work in other countries including England. Also what exactly is the point of as live games on Alba Gaelic TV? same day re-runs in a lingo that most folk don't even understand?
30 Sep 2017 14:25:54
I just don't understand how fans could sing sebos name still to this day yet can't get behind the team we have just now.
There 4 times the team that was played last year. As for KM I'm with pedro on this one.
Pedro is the boss and he will live or die by his desisions and doesn't need KM or any other player trying to tell him what to do.
30 Sep 2017 13:56:11
Would just like to mention what a very good signing, even though its currently, a season long loan deal, declan john is for rangers! I saw quite a bit of declan john a couple of years back playing for cardiff and i really liked the look, of the young full back then. We musn't forget that he's been capped for wales and was kept out of the international team, by the superb, ben davies of tottenham! I think we should and will sign declan john, permanently in the summer! He's available for nowt! He's a really good left full back and still very young! He needs a change of club to kick on and i hope its with us! He's a talent alright!
30 Sep 2017 15:14:25
Supercooper. Was talking about him this morning, hope we have an option to buy him. Looks a great prospect.
30 Sep 2017 20:22:35
Aye John is a decent looking player but warnock is no mug. Also he recovered miraculously he didn't fancy the celtic game simple. ALVES Also is a wimp. Remember big Marv done his cuciate at Dundee at played the next week. We won the title that year with never say die attitude.
30 Sep 2017 23:45:03
Yep, young, quick and talented. A no brainer for me
01 Oct 2017 11:26:11
I think he did brilliantly and if we can get him for free then yeah, definitely sign him. but what kind of message does that send to young Beerman! He was thrown in the deep end last season and I think he did ok with great potential. I have to say I am not a fan of how Pedro handles the media, but I do like how he isn't afraid to throw the youngsters in when needed. That's McCrorie/ Beerman/ bates/ aiden Wilson/ Hardie and Barjonas in 6months. I can't recall the last time we saw so many youngster given a chance. We're going through some growing pains but there is definite optimism for the future!
30 Sep 2017 12:32:04
We win 4-1 and fans still not happy?
What's going in with us. I remember thinking we had the greatest fans in the workd and most loyal. Yet every chance Yous get to slate our manager Yous go crazy. I like the way he can drop any player with worrying wht the media or anybody else says. He's his own man and it's exactly what we need to go forward. Otherwise we would have KM as assistant like everybody wanted at start of the year.
Pedro IS the man to take us forward.
30 Sep 2017 13:33:08
Well said Trueger Celtic go there and win 4-1 and it's a tremendous result media and fans happy with it we go get same score line and it's picked over like a carcas strange supporters
30 Sep 2017 14:20:23
I just don't understand how everybody sung sebos name like he was a legend yet we can't support the player we have now that are 4 times the players from last years. These players must wonder what kind of club they have ended up at with some of the supporters on here. It's unreal.
30 Sep 2017 21:54:28
I think the sebo thing was the fact he gave a 100 percent but was not really any good. Fans love 110 percenters. Remember Ted McMinn. He gave his lot but not top drawer.
01 Oct 2017 08:52:31
I think it was more to do with sarcasm regarding Sebo. remember the game we were beating Celtic 2-0 and Sebo came on and we started singing "Sebos on we're taking the piss" says it all really.
30 Sep 2017 12:00:29
I thought that we could do worse than sign young Crawford from accies on a pre contract in January as his contract ends in June, would be a good squad player and an improvement on Windass mind you that wouldn't be hard.
30 Sep 2017 14:01:34
Crawford is absolutely nowhere near what we need! He's not 'young' he's 26 and in his ninth season in the Accies team and not one single other club has taken a punt or shown real interest. There's a reason for that.
30 Sep 2017 23:47:33
Never been impressed with Crawford if i'm being honest
30 Sep 2017 10:42:51
I thought that was probably the poorest game we have had in the league this season, yet we scored 4 lol.
I think we were so poor because of the pitch and conditions but we gave the ball away far too easy.
Their keeper had a bit of a howler lol.
Happy with three points tho :-)
30 Sep 2017 13:08:33
if that’s the poorest you have seen us I would imagine you not been to many games this season
30 Sep 2017 16:15:05
The whole team seemed to struggle on the plastic pitch with ball control and passing, dreadful start, but fought back well, john, candeias and holt when he came on were excellent, windass on borrowed time I think, someone more consistant needed on the left wing
30 Sep 2017 18:24:00
Scotty, it wasn't just the plastic pitch, it was the fact that it was excessively watered and then the temperature began to fall (I was at the game) resulting in underfoot conditions being very poor. I'd be copmlaining to the SPFhelL that this could have caused serious injury, but I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for that lot to respond. As for the left side of the team, I believe John was brought in to play in front of Wallace, giving us real strength in that area. But it looks like that plan's gone for a while, and since we all agree Windass is not the answer, I'd go with the wee lad Nemane who certainly couldn't be any worse.
30 Sep 2017 09:58:03
The manager talks about team yet Declan john scores twice and he doesn't celebrate, yet when candeias scores he's up hugging him, doesn't show team spirit to me.
30 Sep 2017 10:51:12
1st point dj didn't run across to the manager to celebrate, does that make him not back the manager
2nd point pc was choked with the flu it's been well publicised that's why he was understated.
3rd point after the week that's happened getting criticised for going mental at the players after a tonking at the weekend do you blame him, our support must be the most fickle support in the world, can't believe some of the things i'm reading regarding only celebrating with that player, all the players celebrated just so happens people want pedro out so much they pick stupid things and stupid ideas
30 Sep 2017 11:40:47
Pedro is a donkey and these Miller shenanigans are the proof.
Beating a poor Hamilton team 4-1 hasn't changed anything.
I hope he stays but fear he will be gone by November, one motherwell pap them out the Diddy cup.
30 Sep 2017 09:44:05
With regards to the Kenny Miller saga, IF it turns out to be true that he has been the leak then he should not be allowed to wear the jersey again despite how professional he's been in the past. This leak has brought more negative press to the club which we do not need. The players and manager need to focus on the football and not be thinking about anything else. As Kevin Thomson said last night, Sir Walter had a leak and said when he found out who it was they would never play for the club again. It's no different for Pedro. Not a great performance last night but a good result and showed great character to get back into it. Much needed!
30 Sep 2017 09:27:09
Just a thought lads but is it possible that Miller was not in last night's squad because of the playing surface? I'm sure he's sat out previous games there too.
The rest could just be paper talk?
30 Sep 2017 00:13:14
Well Bears its one if two things regarding Miller, He is either the person who has been leaking information, which would really surprise me! OR he has said something to Caxinha and in my mind must have done it in front of other Players Coaches etc! as I think that Caxinha would accept a Player having an difference of opinion, as long as a Player does so in the right environment and NOT disrespect him undermine him in front of other Squad members! Again I do find it hard to believe that a Player like Miller would do something like that. he's been in the game for some time and hasn't been the type to spit his dummy out and run to the Press. So imo I think he's had a pretty big falling out with the Manager AND in front of others!
So then a question, will Miller be sold in January? and who too? my guess is that if there's no way back into the Team then Miller may end up at Hibs. Thoughts Bears?
30 Sep 2017 05:28:01
Sold lol 😁
30 Sep 2017 09:13:27
Looks like he was the leak in the dressing room. If true then no matter what you think of the manager Miller needs to go. Can't have any player undermine any manager like that
30 Sep 2017 14:38:03
Miller expressed sentiment to one of the former players now engaged in freelance media work. Boyd, Rae or Ferguson could not keep their mouth shut.