Rangers Banter Archive August 03 2013

 

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03 Aug 2013 23:27:32
The RST have an online forum where members can suggest topics to be voted on. One of the topics on there at the moment is for the RST to hold an open meeting for non members to put their points across. I voted for this and I'd encourage any other RST members on here to do the same. We need clarity and direction as a support before we can make any strides to get it from the club.
I have also raised my own topic to be voted on by suggesting a dignified protest outside Ibrox prior to the Brechin game. Not a rabble of finger pointing and accusations descending into chaos but a strong stance with dignity to demand the clarity we were promised.
If fellow bears choose to protest on this day I would urge all to be aware that they are representing the Rangers support and to act with the class of men like Struth. The days of 'no one likes us we don't care' should be left in the past. We should care because if we want to be truly respected we need to start having respect for others. Finally I hope you're reading this Barry Ferguson as your comments in your newspaper column left me feeling dismayed. You may like it that no one likes us but a lot of us don't.

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Issue one must be the audited accounts. Nothing financial can be hidden in these. Next is the question of who exactly owns the deeds to Ibrox and Murray Park.

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Baybear, you consistently post sensibly. However, don't you think a new movement outwith the existing supporters groups would be the way to go? A grassroots revival led by people like yourself may be possible. A long hard road no doubt, but the vested interests are strangling your club.

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@1) not just the deeds and names on them but any securities or charges held against those properties. These need to be questions raised at AGM. In fact, under uk business freedom of information rules, anyone with a single share has the right of entry to the premises and the right to inspect the books and have evidences shown to them.

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All mouth and no action that's the problem with the support not a dig at you bay but everyone has an opinion but no one stands up and does anything about it its a case of follow folow watp rtid and all that p#sh and the people in charge no this and will continue to treat the fans loke fools and with contempt until they say enough is enough and stop funding these cowboys your loyalty is being taken for granted and bloody well abused

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@2 possibly mate, but time is of the essence. Why start building a new car when there is already a perfectly good one sitting there? Seems to me that as fans the one thing we're good at is highlighting the failings of others and not being able to move past that. Granted, the RST have not always represented us but who has? They were sucked in by the likes of Whyte but so were many others, including business types, players and many on here who refused to heed the warnings. The RST are just ordinary supporters trying to make a difference. They're not high flyers getting paid a hefty wedge to do it. These guys are out there, in their own time trying to orchestrate change and I for one salute them for that. All I'm suggesting is less of the negative focus and more of the positive. They are at least trying, why not swell their numbers and give them a hand? You know, I regularly ask the naysayers on here " what are you actually doing to make a difference?" I don't think I've had an answer yet. There are too many in life who have strong opinions when they've nothing to loose. I admire the guys who are prepared to put themselves out there and take the flak when things go wrong. It's easy to be a hero when things are going well.

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03 Aug 2013 22:04:58
I wouldn't be surprised if Dunfermline win the league if McCoist is still manager.

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Dont be silly. With the squad of players there you could pull a guy from a chippy to manage the team and still win the league

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Yeh, bet you sally couldn't make a bag of chips though.

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Manager and chippy. looks like Ally must've waited a while before the gig came up!

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03 Aug 2013 21:45:50
Walter get your finger out and have a word with McCoist, or another for that fact. Ally out Walter in place of him. Time big Walt did sumit with substance for that criminal wage. Ruggy bear

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WS has already stated that he is out out of his depth at chairman level as he has no business acumen and fair play to him. Ally on the other hand has never stated that he is out of his depth in the managers role ( which he quite clearly is ) which answers or at least identifies that the solution is within Rangers grasp. put square pegs into square holes. follow suit with the round ones and. most importantly. discard the ones that don't fit. time to get back to basics.

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McCoist isn't competent to be in the managers job. Smith isn't competent to be in the Chairman's job. Sort that first its a no brainer. Mathers seems like a good CEO. Stockbridge a poor financial officer if reports correct.
P Murray isn't an option.
Blint as chairman, Mathers stays, smith to footballing manager, McCoist and his coaches leave, and a new CFO appointed.

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03 Aug 2013 21:36:43
With all the crap that's going on we must remain behind our team not get on their backs, they don't determine the way they play they are told what formation to play and who plays where (usually out of position) so let's cheer them on and back the boys on the field.
The manage ment need to have the balls to play 4-4-2 and play the boys in their best position

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If he won't play 4-4-2 in lower leagues what 's the chances he'll do it in the big league?

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A 4-4-2 requires 2 strikers to be fit and on the park

Are you advocating playing Jig, Temps or McKay out of position?

surely not

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@1 but you won't play in big years for 2-3 years. so why bother?

expectations of cup wins at this time ridiculous, green doing why he did at sheffield - underming the manager at our time of need

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03 Aug 2013 20:47:37
after todays result can't we see that ally is usless I have been saying it now for 2 years and he hasn't got a clue, in the league Dunfermline will push us all the way

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Have the rangers management team taken a backhander from the publicans of paisley road west it has to be the only thing I can think off?

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Doubt that any team will compete with Rangers this season due to the sheer quality of players but agree on McCoist. his record when it matters is woefully short and he's clearly out of his depth. he'll always be part of Rangers but not in his current role imo.

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03 Aug 2013 22:39:23
I remember people saying thus when Walter came back, I say ally you need to win league and A cup be it ramsdens then be it so but u need A cup this season. The team on the park today was not as strong as the team we had last season fir a start we had a keeper who has played what 1 competitive match I think? Back 4 who ain't played well, but one thing I will say is 1 striker come on Ally, what happened to more attack minded for this season?

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No excuses. it was forfar for god sake,. with all due respect!
what would celtic do to us if we go through? a total mess our club is in and rotten to the core
a huge clear out needed
get ally and his muppets to f**k and some decent scouts in

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04 Aug 2013 03:01:31
If the ambition of Rangers fans is to be grateful to win a part-time semi professional league with a fulltime squad, and be grateful to win a invitational minor teams cup, then your standards have dropped so far, that pity is fully deserved towards you.

Was one of your players not this week boasting Rangers would be targeting four competitions, is maybe the Glasgow Cup now your next serious target.

I can't believe that we are going to have so much banter between the fans so early in the season, last night was a peach. Please Oh please SFA, can we have you, if you make it as far as the fourth round on the Scottish Cup.

Tim Goa. LOL.

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@2 your comment seems to suggest that your quality could not play against Forfar for whatever reason, so does that mean Wallace, Templeton, Black, etc etc are not good enough and just tipped up for the money? ( The painter and decorator doesn't need a comment!)

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04 Aug 2013 10:20:22
little is our only striker we had still what ally should of done was replace jig with luca started aird and little and barry the two strikers little just didn't look the part but with barry next to him think we could have pushed a lot more

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@3 don't know if u were aware we were playing Forfar yesterday. A part time team maybe instead of defending Rangers you should be asking questions on why we produced another inept and spineless away performance

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03 Aug 2013 20:53:28
I posted previously about giving ally time as it was the fair thing to do. I take that back. Not throwing rattle out the pram one bad result. Just reminded at how embarrassing he is at carrying himself and how inept he is at the thing called Management. He has ZERO skills in management and his use of Green today as an excuse today twisting facts to suit by saying players worried about their jobs FFS Ally YOU are the one should be worried. MOST managers like Fergie and sadly Lennon would pin greens comments up in players changing area to INSPIRE them to fight. not you eh ally better to save that one to deflect attention away from your ROTTEN management skills. last year it was no pre season no time to bond etc etc etc. what's it this season Ally?. he must be sacked ADD the fact he is draining DOUBLE Mather's 500k salary out club. a real decent rangers fan would quit. he won't sad day all round. george

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03 Aug 2013 20:14:33
Think mccoist might get the hamilton acc or even walk after his verbal attack on charles green, thoughts?

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Would Hamilton want him? Doubt it!

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Think the sack is what he is hoping for!

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He can't walk away. He wants to be sacked and have the pressure relieved. He wants six months in a darkened room.

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What exactly was wrong with his comments exactly, I for one am totally opposed to green trying to engineer his way back as his comments and outlandish predictions were an embaressment to our club. BT

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03 Aug 2013 20:59:57
Regardless if its green smith whoever if McCoist only wins the league then that's a red neck. His attack on green shoes he is one more stike & he's out. Who brought green back? Someone knows something?

That million pound contract ally is getting ready to be ripped up?

Lenny

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03 Aug 2013 20:01:50
Charles Green back. (after season ticket cash is in) More boardroom turmoil. Another cup exit. (how many cup ties has Ally won incidentally?)
Friendly game vs Newcastle (a game designed to line whose pockets exactly?) a chance to make our voices heard. Either in the stadium or better yet, don't go in and make voices heard outside the stadium. Demand answers and action. NOW!

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Anyone who goes to that game with what is going on now is mad.

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03 Aug 2013 19:51:53
Who was the only Rangers player to play in every game last season according to the ET newspaper? I'll tell you, it was Neil Alexander, subbed in one league game for Smith, that aside he played every minute.

Now some time after New Year it became apparent he was only returning if he accepted a reduced wage, both sides seemed entrenched and lo and behold he didn't return. Cammy Bell signed, fair enough right? Erm no.

Because as anyone with a brain knew some games had to be negotiated before September 1st when Bell and the like came in. The league was won on March 30th, in the remaining 5 fixtures why weren't Smith or Gallacher given a chance? Gallacher has been 8 years at the club and made his debut last week!

Now I don't know how he played today, he may have been brilliant but surely this is a shining example of the lack of forward planning by McCoist. He then undermines the goalie he will predominately have to stick by till September 1st by saying ideally he would like to get another experienced keeper in and let him go on loan.

In the bulk of pre-season games he fielded the new guys, not a great plan for August fielding mainly guys you can only utilise post September 1st is it? He is truly an awful, awful manager.

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I still back McCoist and to be honest it wouldn't matter if I or anyone else didn't as like it or not he's here to stay as there's no way he'll be fired now after bringing in all his new signings. To be honest I couldn't care less if people think I'm an person for supporting him as in my eyes he's still a rangers legend who only wants what's best for the club and will try his hardest to provide that even if that isn't always the case (like today's result). I also believe that he deserves more loyalty and respect than many have shown him when u think about what he's had to contend with and sacrifice since becoming manager of the club (just like many of the fans). He's relatively inexperienced as a manager also and so is more likely to make mistakes just like younger players but he is definitely still good enough to get us back to the premiership, which is ultimately the most important thing. In Ally we (or to be fair probably I) trust! as today was just one bad result in an ever improving scenario on the playing side of things, why not wait until we have r full squad available before reaching conclusions on how good we are/will b this season. This time last week we had plenty of people posting positively about the Albion result and performance and now look? In fact playing what is effectively last years side today and seeing them in contrast to when we could play only 2 of our new signings should highlight just how big the difference will likely be later this season and it should not spark off people into calling for mccoist's head as this year will likely demonstrate just how great improvements have been made under McCoist and why he is, in my opinion a good manager. It's funny how so many people seem to forget just how well we were doing when he first took charge and how we would have almost certainly one the league (by a large margin) if we hadn't gone into administration and been forced to sell jelavic as well as b deducted 10 points. I believe ally is a good manager who will lead us to much success in the coming years with a better crop of players and more experience himself as a coach. WATP!

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@1) "How well we were doing when he first took charge" This is the time period that included Malmo, Maribor and Falkirk, yes?

"Won the league by a large margin" Celtic were already 4 pts clear when admin kicked in. Are you for real?

Regardless of how the club does post Sept 1st and I think they will win the league and a cup as Green hinted, my point was his preparing for this season prior to Sept 1 has been poor.

OP

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Corporate management wins every time my friend otherwise there would be no such thing.

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@1/ Are you serious? Last week proved one thing Albion Rovers are terrible that's all. 4-1-4-1 against Forfar! A holding midfield player in the first division. Extra time against a team of part time players and he could not shape a team to run them off the park. don't worry though he will not get sacked because their is no cash to pay him and his assistants off.

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03 Aug 2013 19:43:24
Disgusted at Greens appointment. The guy is supposedly there to attract more investment and to deal with shareholders, my arse. It is clear that Green has been pulling the strings. He has come back, not been brought back, to try and fend off the latest attempted coup.

His words that Ally must win the league and a cup are farcical. He is just putting pressure on to Ally and the team, not required, not wanted and if he is a "consultant" then it has f. k all to do with him.

Once again he opens his gub and spouts nonsense. Mather, if not Greens man, should come out and slate Greens comments. Ally is right he is an embarrasment, every time he speaks.

To be fair to him, Green did step up when all those linked with this coup did not. He saved out club. But enough is enough and Green will sell his shares and make a very nice profit, but I for one don't want him anywhere near Ibrox.

I believe McColl and his crew may just land the spoils, we know he is a fan, Frank Blin is a fan, and both appear to have impeccable reputations. However it must be said that McColl should have got involved two years ago. I know if I had a tenth of his money that I would have been involved.

But the feeling I think is that we will not be happy until all of Greens associates are gone. Let them have their pound of flesh and get them gone. I for one, as a shareholder, will back these new guys. There has been too much hidden, the true situation must be known.

As for Ally - I loved him as a player, I named my son after him, but I am afraid a manager - no way. His statement about Green may just put an end to his tenure, perhaps Ally knows his time is up. But this is a very bold statement to make, a brave man.

Thank God that Ally has been there over the last two years, I don't know that we would have survived without him, but the clock is ticking.

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I remember things a bit differently. Do you not remember the press conference with Murray, Kennedy etc?
It seemed clear at the time that there was an agenda to keep the Blue Knights out orchestrated by Whyte and assisted by Duff and Phelps. Suddenly this guy Green appeared and very quickly became the preferred bidder. It's my belief that Whyte was the chancer who bought into promises by Green, Ahmed etc. He then set about making sure Duff and Phelps moved the goalposts for the Blue Knights so he could get some cash out of Green. Unfortunately for Whyte he was in over his head and ended up getting shafted by Green and Ahmed which is why he pops up from time to time to make claims. I'm not even sure the money is his main motivation. I think Green and Ahmed have made him look like a wee d1ck in the business world and he's scrambling to get some sort of a reputation back. The rest is a never ending history. Green has an unfortunate skill of getting under peoples skin and making them look stupid. I don't blame Ally for his rant. Maybe ill advised but maybe he knows more than we think. Maybe
he's confident that this time Walter and McColl hold all the aces.
Have a wee watch of this link on YouTube and tell me what you think.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G-T30bnc4Q

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@Baybear

I have actually used your link and even though I watched this at the time, it was far more illuminating and heartbreaking to watch as it was literally a description of how things HAVE went.
What came over to me more was the sincerity and genuine desire for RFC to survive through a CVA. As we now know they were right on many fronts. A CVA was do-able, the TAX case went our way and we SHOULD have survived.
What I want to contribute to your post Baybear is my knowledge of appointing administrators and how they act after such appointment.
I do not know if this will be posted but here goes.
In 1996 I was involved in EXACTLY the same sceanario albeit on smaller scale financially but still for considerable sum of money. I was advised that I should oppose various debtors and allow one principle debtor I knew and could 'talk' to, he would agree to nominate a certain administrator and for a fee of £8000 cash they would pave a smooth path to put things to bed in the best way to suit me.
Take this example and for me you think Craig Whyte and Admin Co Duff and Phelps they are friendly to his desires having been appointed and made £ millions and as promised when Whyte put forward CG as HIS desired preferred bidder that is what Duff and Phelps provided as they will have agreed beforehand privately with Mr Whyte.
If you listen closely to Paul Murray and Brian Kennedy this is what they are implying in the press conference. IT DID NOT ADD UP AND IN THEIR OPINION A CVA WONT HAPPEN IT WILL BE NEWCO AND THE PEOPLE CONCERNED AS WE ALL KNOW FROM THAT DAY ON HAVE STRIPPED RANGERS BARE LINED THEIR POCKETS AND WILL TAKE RANGERS INTO A SEOND LIQUIDATION WITH CURRENT SALARIES BONUS AND CRAZY SPENDING! As Kennedy said it isn't about owning it is about saving Rangers AND running at a cost within our means! EVERYTHING HE SAID current board doing and everything turning out as we see running at loss £1m a month poss £7/9m MAX left in bank Mather - £500 CG - £350 Ally £1m etc etc. It also put to bed the nonsense Rangers fans keep saying since then that thank god for CG he was ONLY saviour put money up! F*****G rubbish HE WAS ONLY BUYER FAVOURED BY DUFF AND PHELPS! Look at how our boardroom has played out since! Would you imagine this type of disharmony had Murray/Kennedy/McKay/Walter and Souness been chosen bidder. phone videos of a Director slightly merry. anon leaks on internet from Ahmed. CG embarrassing us on a weekly basis. CVA agreed with Taxman, 25 years contract Ally DALLAS COWBOYS LINK FFS FFS. I could go on. Baybear was right ST money was our strength Mather was Green puppet to con the ST money. signings are crazy money for 2nd div and to me seem a con to guarantee seasons and more £millions for CG and co to divide up in 'bonuses' just prior to us heading into 2nd admin. PLEASE NOTE at no time have we seen audited accounts IF Mather was for real it is the simple easy thing to do to show the fans CLARITY AND THE TRUTH. sick of CW/CG/AHMAD/STOCKBRIDGE/MATHER/ALLY (so embarrassing again today he hasn't a clue how to do ANYTHING like a spoilt child in interviews). cleansing? Aye right. praying WS and new Blue Knights with McColl is successful it is our only hope of avoiding 2nd Admin. yours in Rangers. george

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03 Aug 2013 19:39:28
Last season McCoist cited the lack of a pre season as being one of the main reasons that Rangers stuttered through. With a seemingly beneficial pre season just gone, he will no doubt point to the September 1st transfer embargo as a reason why Rangers did not beat Forfar.

I would not be surprised if, god forbid, there is a poor start to the league season he blames the lack of cohesion due to not being able to play the new signings freely due to the September embargo.

The honeymoon is over, most people, myself included gave him the benefit of the doubt last season. New ballgame now I'm afraid Alasdair. No excuses. You need to win, win well and win in style. 4141 against Forfar is not on. A tactial pygmy!

If the club don't act now and remove him for a real manager then it may be too late. We need to hit the ground running when we get back up to the top league - whatever it will be called then. McCoist is a Rangers legend in the true sense of the word. However, that is being eroded and he may find that his legendary status begins to disipate rapidly.

Coisty, yer teas oot.

Jim

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03 Aug 2013 19:22:03
Time to give Mccall a phone.

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Doubt McCall would leave motherwell too manage rangers untill board is settled, rangers where complete shambles today, worried bear

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Give Ally a bit more time please.
If he does fail it must be Terry Butcher
Doune bear

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Honestly #2, he could get all the time in the world but it's plain to see Ally is no manager. That team under McCall. Butcher, Billy Davies etc etc would have won. Tactically Ally is clueless, he's learned nothing in the past few years and he is NOT a young manager, he's ages with Jose Mourinho.
Every week he is in charge is a week where we fall further behind where we want to be.

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03 Aug 2013 19:10:58
would anybody hire ally

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Would Sue Barker trust him to pick a team for a question of sport?

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@1 the answer is no. Phil Tufnell is a lot funnier than Ally except when it comes to football management

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03 Aug 2013 19:10:06
ally if you love the club =leave

durrant if you love the club = leave

mcdowall = just leave

walter smith you had your time and money = please just leave.

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Got to say I think this post is harsh.
Don't get me wrong, in footballing terms I agree but with all the other stuff at our club these guys have done well to remain in a position where they can get a look at what's going on.
I honestly think it's naïve and crass to think that Ally and Walter have just been scamming us like the rest of them. Sometimes there are casualties in war, it's inevitable. Unfortunately these casualties have been us for the most part.
I truly believe Walter and Ally have been playing the long game so they can influence a power struggle in favour of the club and the fans. You know the old saying, keep your friends close and your enemies closer. One day it will all come out in the wash and those who questioned the integrity of people like Walter Smith will be ashamed of themselves.

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Baybear I think you're a good poster but Ally championed Whyte just prior to administration. He told us all to trust Charles Green and buy shares (the same shares he was getting for 1p). He's lining his own pockets very nicely while many loyal Ges fans have lost hundreds of pounds on the value of those shares in recent months which all experts predicted were overpriced on the launch & Walter also came on board specifically to help punt those shares.

& where has the IPO money gone? What have Walter & Ally done to stop it disappearing? £22 million has apparently become £8 million and neither has said a cheep about it.

These guys are legends at Ibrox but they're not without blame.

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@2 who knows mate, who knows. all I know is we have very few people of any influence who care about our club. We the fans need people who we know and I just don't doubt Ally and Walters love for the club.
Lets start coming together outside Ibrox to demand honesty and clarity.

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03 Aug 2013 22:51:10
So they r in charge of the money then, so not only run the club, company, team, training facilities, they r expected to control the money as well. Maybe that's how it is your house but in a company there are people who have different jobs and one of the jobs is to control money so that others can get in with their own jobs!!

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04 Aug 2013 00:45:49
If Ally really loves Rangers he should write a resignation letter 2moro and agree to leave without being paid off.

Only that would retain his legenday status.

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Yes and then tell us everything he knows from the inside what's happening.

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03 Aug 2013 19:05:08
Ally has let of some steam and this looks like it has went to another level with the looks of it


RANGERS manager Ally McCoist has launched a sensational attack on Charles Green, branding the former chief executive "an embarrassment".


Speaking afterwards at Station Park, when asked for his thoughts on Green's remarks, McCoist said: "I was appalled by them to be quite honest with you.

"The self-acclaimed straight-talking Yorkshireman has again let himself down.

"His contempt and total lack of respect for my players, for our football club, for our support and Scottish football in general is appalling - and he is an embarrassment. "

On Green's cup claims, McCoist added: "If it was a threat then the self-acclaimed straight-talking Yorkshireman should know that boys from the West of Scotland don't scare easily.

What do you lads make of this

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The technical genius has to divert the pasting he's getting in another direction hoping that all the Loyal crew will blindly defend him from his inability to do what he's paid to do. MANAGE!

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Ally is trying to deflect from the fact that the big embarrassment is losing in extra time to Forfar. Remember he backed Green to sell season tickets, he was fine with that.

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I think Ally must feel he's in the stronger position and is well involved with Walter, McColl, Murray and Blin.
Got to say, I don't have a problem with what he had to say. He loves Rangers like the rest of us and he's probably overdue an emotional outburst.
I do think his management record is poor but as a man and a rangers supporter I don't doubt him.

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He's jumped into bed with every command that's walked through the door, he's looking after No1 and your accepting it.

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03 Aug 2013 18:53:31
After todays performance and yesterdays revelations I feel like a total d*ck for giving in and renewing.

Should have stuck to my original stance and bought the wee man the new bike he needs instead.

Totally ashamed of myself :0 (

11am protest outside Ibrox on the 10th anyone?

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@baybear I feel sorry for you and the other 33 thousand other fans so did the rst rst reply to your email

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I'll be there baybear its about time us as fans stand together and let the shysters that we are not taken ther sh*t anymore

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@baybear you sound a really astute and clever guy, but I'm afraid your heart ruled your head! Don't be to hard on yourself, you love your club, but guys like you should have took a stance and told them where to go! Ally has made himself a legend as a manager with his 'we don't do walking away' s***.

Briggs

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@1- Sadly, not yet but these guys are just volunteers. Fans like me so I hope the response will be decisive and not just a nod of agreement with no real action.
@2- Me to mate, sick of the lies.
@3- Cheers and I agree, my heart did rule my head. As for Ally I genuinely feel he is just as frustrated as the rest of us. Poor football manager yes but he's not the sneak thief he's being made out to be in my opinion.

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03 Aug 2013 18:50:12
I think this is maybe the most embarrassing moment for Rangers. All the haters are going to lap this 1 up. Ally it goes without saying you are under serious pressure. That type of result will not be tolerated.!

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Why - loosing to East stirling was worse. fofar are good and a complete team who played together.

You can't WIN every match, or expect to that's not footbal, that's fantasy football. winning 70% of all matches.

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03 Aug 2013 18:45:52
Ally doesn't want green in scotland. why cause green is the Only 1 with the b@lls to sack him. Allys sacked this in week by green

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03 Aug 2013 19:48:45
Ally was happy enough with CG when he was awarded all those shares for 1p.

1 things for sure. CG is a better businessman than Ally is a manager.

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03 Aug 2013 18:42:20
Am I alone in suggesting that our Manager needs to stop bleeting about every issue in Scottish Football and concentrate in our own football issues on the park especially after todays debacle.
His constant whinging at his press conferences show he is naive in answering loaded questions that the press feed him like the zookeeper feeds the penguins.
Surely he needs to put all his energies into getting team matters right, football politics is for Walter and his board to make comment on.
Ally, only when you raise your own game will the wider Scottish public take heed of your opinions, for now, get your own job right.
Today's performance and result is unacceptable and in the coming weeks your own performance will come under greater scrutiny.
Perhaps your ill-thought responses on subjects outwith our club need to be curtailed or people will
start to imagine this is a smokescreen to defer criticism from your own underperformance.
Charlie is back to create mayham you need to return to your day-job for which currently you are very overpaid.

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03 Aug 2013 18:40:45
I hope green's right if ally doesn't win league and cup double he's out. It might even be worth the embarrassment just to get rid of him.

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03 Aug 2013 18:39:19
Edd would you in your honest opinion sack ally if you were Charles green {Ed001's Note - personally I would never have employed him, but I am not a Rangers fan, so have no emotional attachment to him to begin with. I just don't see any ability to motivate or coach players in him at all, nor have I ever seen any signs of him having those abilities. I don't understand why David Weir was overlooked, he was extremely highly rated as a coach, as is shown by his appointment at Sheff Utd and being right up there in the running as an option for the Everton job in the summer. With him being an ex-Ranger too, I thought he would have been the best available option to follow Smith. Too early to judge him on his time at the Blades yet though.}

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03 Aug 2013 18:24:12
Has Green been brought back for the purpose of sacking McCoist as no-one else at the club has the balls to do it?

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03 Aug 2013 19:00:18
OP. Hopefully. Allys a legend as a player but disaster as a manager. Just think how much that result might have cost us today.

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No one at the club has the funds to do it!

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Charles has the ballz of steele

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I hope he is back to sack McCoist he always has excuses.

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Allys just found his tongue went 4 green big time greens obviously gave his stupid comments to get to ally but ally doesn't have a voice usually and finds it when a poor performance needs explaining it doesn't quite hold the same weight doubt he would of been so angry had we won today

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Sacking McCoist with cost more than keeping him - we can't kep paying money to everyone who leaves.

its recovery time - not panic stations every game?

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03 Aug 2013 18:21:30
Mcausland relegated to the bench AFTER playing out his skin last week.
Aird and Gasparotto left on the bench too.

Whydid Mitchell ang Hegarty get a game? They were nowhere to be seen in pre season matches.

Oh yes I forgot - Ally is the boss - aye right!

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03 Aug 2013 19:12:14
Mate called me after the game from Forfar and said in the 2nd half of extra time Forfar looked much more likely to win, createdmore chances + looked sharper. and yet they're the part timers, Says it all. PLease go now Ally before you really tarnish your rep + become a joke.

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Yea I agree he had to pick his best team and that was clearly not the best team when we went 442 with mitchell 4 aird we still wernt very impressive I know we lacked str because we had 2 play jig at the back but why we never just played 4132 with temps/aird/mackay n little up front ill never know going to resist the urge to join the get ally out mob but i'm going to be a depressed bear 4 while

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Yes he does not have a clue.

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You took the words right out my mouth well said I totally agree.

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03 Aug 2013 18:11:04
when oh when will the penny drop. the guys a football "legend" for us in many ways. as a manager he just doeny have it in many many ways. it may go down as the biggest "cash grab" in Scottish football history as this non-entity and his sidekicks embarrass us week in week out whilst making a million snappers a year plus. the news was bad enuff this morning as I awoke to greens a consultant. another cash grabbing suit. bottom line. feel sorry for the travelling bears today. time to let them know how we feel with this sideshow. deecee

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You'll no be playing celtic in many cups after that showing. Seriously you need to get a manager in. What's Walter Smith doing these days anyone know

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03 Aug 2013 18:09:09
Forfar!

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03 Aug 2013 18:07:43
there is one saving grace, u won't meet celtic in this cup.

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03 Aug 2013 19:03:39
on paper with home advantage we really shouldn't have that much to worry about but personally I hope the next time we meet Ally is no longer in charge or it could be embarrassing.

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03 Aug 2013 18:01:32
not good enough really poor, ally and the players need to get their act together, don't think I can stick another season of these poor results, no hunger and desire to win yet again. GowdyWATP

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03 Aug 2013 18:00:06
Not exactly a rumour but after that result and taking into account some of mccoists previous embarrasments if he was to be shown the door who would be the replacement?

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Sheils

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Dont knock this anyone please, but Jimmy Calderwood?

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Take your pick. terry butcher, kenny shiels, stuart mccall, billy davies or my personal choice john brown. No chance of that while charles green is pulling the strings after his infamous rant on the steps of ibrox. Charles green will keep ally because he is easy to manipulate. a puppet on a string. If he did go he would be replaced by a non rangers man who would do as he was told. Sad times.

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Choice of 3 - McInnes (mine) McColl (my other option) Butcher likelyas he is working miracles with average players. Ally is going for a unique record of knocking us out every cup competition we enter with him in charge. use green to sack him then get rid of him and his puppets/cronies. new board new management 2 years to prepare for celtic. george

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03 Aug 2013 17:51:19
We couldn't play any new signings, fair enough, but with the players left from last season we should've beaten Forfar in regulation time. Also Hemmings was punted as deemed not good enough. got a Hatrick today to take his side into the next round, well done son. Drastic improvement needed from the whole club.

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03 Aug 2013 17:49:35
I posted a few weeks ago about how ally was not the man to lead us & that he had been rinsed by green to get fans to part with cash, I said get rid now the club is safe
to all the ones who even asked if I were Kenny shiels don't get rid just becoz of today its he is the worst man in the world.

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Where is Dean Shiels?

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03 Aug 2013 17:46:56
Well Ally how much have you cost us already? Complete disgrace leave now.

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03 Aug 2013 17:45:08
All our big signings for a good cup run pumped out in round 1 wae Forfar total disgrace granted they where not allowed to play this match but we should have enough to progress!super ally under major p already hate to say it folks he's not the man if he can't get a squad together to win at Forfar there's no hope!totally gutted today!ryan

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BIG signings? Ahem!

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03 Aug 2013 17:42:31
batten down the hatches lads -we are in for a hell of a time this season.

Ramsden cup - still in it

league cup - out on our ases

Scottish cup - who knows

league 1 - who cares

Ally McCoist. Ian Durrant. Kenny McDowell - WHO ARE THESE IMPOSTORS??

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03 Aug 2013 17:53:16
Allys cup exit List of shame continues. MALMO, MARIBOR, FALKIRK, DUNDEE UNITED, QUEEN OF THE SOUTH, INVERNESS, DUNDEE UNITED (AGAIN) and now on the second fame of our season FORFAR (apologies if I've missed any). why oh why are we suffering these embarassments and allowing mccoist to continue as manager? I think its pathetic to say we couldn't play the new guys because if mccoist had any skills as a manager he would be able to beat forfar with the squad we had today. Playing black as a holding midfeilder and playing little up front on his own today is tactically shocking. I personally think his time is up. NO MORE CHANCES.

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Well said mate. billy the bear

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Agree mate, he will never be sacked and i'm sure he won't walk away from his 1 mill a year wage

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03 Aug 2013 17:51:06
Wouldnt be surprised if ally walked and I wouldn't blame him just as he thought everything was going good up pops green and his antics over shadowing the first team. the club is just a laughing stock and I for one am done with it

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Aye that's right it was green that told ally to play black as a holding midfielder and 1 up front. get a grip m8. ally was and always will be a legend as a player but he's NEVER a rangers manager. W. A. T. P. billy the bear.

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Can't honestly believe your defending a manager with no technical ability or any motivational skills to push a team on, he's taking fortunes out of Rangers and your comment suggests that it's o. k by you, how can you defend the undefendable, totally baffling!

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03 Aug 2013 17:37:36
Go ally and take durrant and mcdowell with you!. we need someone with vision to take us forward. 4 1 4 1 against forfar ffs. we deserve better. W. A. T. P. billy the bear.

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03 Aug 2013 17:34:16
Oh well there goes another income stream!
Cant believe anyone would want to give McCoist more time. Its time to go now before he can inflict any more damage on us. A rudderless ship at every level. Sad, sad times.

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03 Aug 2013 17:33:26
Forget about off the field problems, look at that to-day and forget the excuses. Again my season ticket is renewed but I will not set foot in Ibrox while the current management team are in place. A total shambles.
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03 Aug 2013 17:31:18
Disgusted. Bye bye ally
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03 Aug 2013 17:30:43
Not a rumour Fact out of another cup I feel ally should be sacked immediately We cannot afford anymore results like this one today and only immediate action will change things

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03 Aug 2013 17:29:10
Mather, Green et al will be out by next Friday.

Walter holds too much sway with the shareholders. If Walter walked the shares would plummet.

It's only business! simples.

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Walter's getting his wedge along with the rest, he like Ally has backed all the spiv's who have walked through the door,

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You put too much faith in 'Walter'. He was a reasonable player, good coach when he had millions more to spend than his competitors, but totally unqualified for his current position. There is no pedigree outwith the scottish league. Overrated, overpaid, overdue the boot.

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03 Aug 2013 17:30:18
forfar 2. sons of the desert 1

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03 Aug 2013 18:03:18
More like dessert. Or puddings.

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I feel conned out of season book money now

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03 Aug 2013 17:24:19
Super Ally has humiliated us yet again, McCoist is doing more damage than Green and co, we have no say in what goes on at boardroom level but we must demand MUCH better in football terms, McCoist has had 2 seasons to prove himself and all he has proved is that he is totally incompetent, we need to get him out asap.

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Smokey you ask too much, we lucky to be in any shape, and just getting promotion is all that's required.

While you and green dream of cup wins, there will only be more visits to div3 and liquidation.

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Could not agree more, he has to go, in his own immortal words,, without a shadow of a doubt,, our team is a laughing stock. trueblue.

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McCoist the clown Jester must go. Right now. There will be a day of Reckoning McCoist its right now, TODAY.

4 cups this season my ar*e.

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03 Aug 2013 16:39:03
To all Bears who like me confused with all the 'he said she said' S***E.
The ONLY thing that is as clear as DAYLIGHT is the people that 'saved' us are ONLY in it for money. SIMPLE. They even admitted it.
What has to be done and it is THE ONLY solution, the people behind this latest revolution in boardroom have to MAN UP NOW. They have to realise these shysters have the shares and want money. Time to buy them out at all costs. Who amongst us the true fans would baulk at £20m being paid to get rid of the rancid lot fleecing our beloved team. GREEN, STOCKBRIDGE (since Murray video I have despised that little creep), Mather (so clearly Green's puppet) and this other guy Smart?. Jim McColl and the people that are GENUINELY concerned not just about the image of our team being tarnished but the deplorable management of the finances. I am not totally in favour of P Murray (his heart is in the right place and compared to Green and co he is a angel) BUT I AM 100% in favour of McColl a proven diligent businessman and a Rangers supporter (not a Rangers 'man' if you know the difference) and the Blin PWC guy is a pillar of Financial community. I hope the guy Keiron Prior turns out to be the catalyst to all this as he is CLEARLY a man who said all this months ago and this outcome seems exactly what he was suggesting in press. I want to get on with watching Gers and not constantly being depressed by boardroom conmen spivs. ACCOUNTS MUST BE SEEN ASAP. Hoping that McColl led bid leads to the final chapter in this saga. yours in Rangers. george

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What about Smith and McCoist?

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Totally agree mate and also feel we would be better getting rid of the rst and rsa or they merge together and become united because as separate groups they do nothing to represent the fans the rst did the share purchase thru them but for what reason because they do nothing with them I thought the idea was buy shares with them to give the fans a voice they should be embarrassed to to call themselves supporters pure and simple if this was happening to celtic the green brigade and the rest of the fans would not stand for it just look at the crowd they got together to protest for fans not criminals but our supporters group can't even come out with a statement on what's happening to our great club it's nearly 18 months of catastrophe after catastrophe but yet we let it continue

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P Murray IS banned for five years. It's not a grey area. He IS banned under the regs. He would have to be unbanned because that's his status at the moment.

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@3 did he not leave before admin plus surely the shareholders aren't that stupid to try and pull that stunt after the whyte fiasco also its a seven year ban he would have got so I take it you just made that up

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03 Aug 2013 16:36:25
Total cr@p from ally's flops. Never mind. the board shuffle. allys the problem

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Agreed 1000%

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03 Aug 2013 16:04:57
I know that as I am writing this its only ht but while were losing to the mighty forfar kane hemmings has 2 today while Mccoist rattles around. looking for another striker. typical tambo88

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I know Ally will whinge about not being able to play the new guys but that team with the likes of Wallace & McCulloch should not have been beaten by a bunch of part timers today. No excuses.

The sad thing is it isn't even a huge upset knowing Ally's Cup record.

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Green returns and first statement to press McCoist needs to win cup - first result after green returns - 2-1 to forfar after extra time

Green can't help put foot in it - we just need to return to top div, adn rebuild - we don't need to win anythiing but promotion, and be in better financial terms.

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03 Aug 2013 15:52:28
mccoist playing 4141 wtf is up 2, still not got a clue what he's doing, 2 up front score goals

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Take it the mighty Ian black looks brilliant today again without the Nicky law, Ian black should be on the same dole cue as ally.

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03 Aug 2013 15:48:12
of course Kane Hemmings was NOT given a fair chance and then discarded has already scored twice today.
Ally WE SALUTE YOU

Hope you get your job back with Sue Barker

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03 Aug 2013 15:45:19
Seriously? 1-0 down to Forfar? Come Rangers - sort it out!

Scott

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03 Aug 2013 15:34:49
one up front today.

Ally you ARE having a laugh

It's FORFAR we are playing NOT Barcelona.

Tactically Ally you ARE mince

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Its time for Ally and Green to take up the smoker circuit

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Enough is enough, your a laughing stock.

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If Ally is the answer, what was the question?

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Whether we go on to win this game or not this is not good enough ally go please just go and take all your signings with you and tweedle dum and tweedle doo too.

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Pretty poor but why would it be any different from last season?
Cannae play any new trialists today so he's left with what he had last season where he felt he had no option but to play that way.
I'm sure the formation will change after 1st of Sep. If we're not in admin again.
Out of interest, what formation do you favour and who do you think he should have up front today?

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Its time john greig. sorry Ally moved on

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even if we win today Ally has ripped a wee bit out my season all ready. John Greig

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@7 I agree Les, any tiny sense of optimism has been dealt another blow due to Allys incompetence. I wasn't defending him by the way, just asking why anyone would think he would play a different way when he was playing the guys he had last year? He seems to think they're incapable of playing any other way.

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03 Aug 2013 15:13:54
If the club drop into administration half way through the season, all of them need to go, including Jabba, Walter and ally. That's all fans money that would have been drained away. There's no return for SDM nor Craig Whyte era directors either. None of them.

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I dint see how a club losing £1m a month can afford all these signings without going into administration, unless of course we don't sign them, 01/09/13 will answer that one because we cannot rely on the "Rangers men" at the club to keep us informed (well truthfully anyway) they are too busy stuffing our money into their pockets.

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03 Aug 2013 13:07:48
this is the time fans need to take action it's way beyond my wildest dreams we need to get green and co to f*ck or we going to be going into admin again us as fans especially the rst and rsa should be doing something to show that we will not take it anymore the chairman of the rsa is quick to go to the papers and say the fans are dismayed about this that's the understatement of the century why not do something about then it's a bad day when your rivals are sick of what's going on and feel sorry for us the fans

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Dont see why ther trying to force mather out he's done a good job so far and he's invested his money I know people are worried about the accounts but murray was on the oldco board so he isn't trustworty I suppose we will find out if mather is telling the truth when the figures are published but don't think we should be blaming him 4 anything yet

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@1 is it not him that's just hired green as a consultant no doubt on a hefty wage aswell is that not enough what's up has green spent his 350k wage and the 500k pay off aw and how could I forget that mega bonus he took for us winning the 3rd division no matter how people dress it up greens back with his big Yorkshire hand to feast at the rangers buffet because he not already had enough

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@1) agree mate, Mather hasn't set a foot wrong. Walter, Ally and Hugh Keevins speak really highly of him.
He's given Ally everything Ally asked for so far.

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03 Aug 2013 12:24:06
To ED or Baybear can you forward the gist of this post to your contact/s in the Rangers Supporters Trust please?

I am a season ticket holder and joined the RST 3 or 4 months ago. I have been very impressed by the level of support and commitment Hearts supporters have shown their team and in particular an evolving policy of commitment to a monthly direct debit to go towards fan ownership of their club. The various disparate Rangers supporters groups have not served their fan base or the club well well but the reason I paid my £10 to join the RST was they were the first to out SDM and his debt laiden strategy. Like most bears money is tight but when I look through the amount of useless direct debits and standing orders that are leaking out my little bank account I could offer a little on a monthly basis to help access greater fan ownership by stopping some of the waste and directing it towards the club. Accoding to the RST the last time I looked there was only 2, 500 members which is disappointing but if each of these members paid £5 per month (or hwhatever they could afford)that is £150,000 a year towards fan ownership. Small beer perhaps but if the RST was seen to be the main vehicle for change for the better I am sure more bears would sign up. Over to you chaps- thanks

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Will do mate, a fine idea and more constructive than the general undirected pessimism.

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Great post and agree completely with the general sense of points made. Somehow the Rangers supporters have to arrest control of the club and the RST could be the vehicle to do it. The main problem with this is that the vast majority of the Rangers support are confused with the identity of the multiple Fans organizations who all claim to have Rangers best interests at heart but yet they appear not to have the foresight and character to put aside self interest to have one organization so we can have one voice. It continues to smell of empire building. We need one organization with one figurehead who the fans can trust and until this happens, their efforts will continue to be ineffective and unsupported.

I also believe strongly that Rangers Fans want to see football players on the park - nothing else and therefore we as fans have to pay for it as the rich benefactor model has failed and will ultimately fail in England also. As the poster says we are all quite happy to pay for ridiculous direct debits (SKY tv being one of them) and I for one would be happy to pay more provided there is commitment to getting players who can entertain on the park. I am more than happy to pay double the season ticket value once every 2nd or 4th year to replenish the squad. Ultimately this is the equivalent of not having a holiday one year in four even if money is tight. I know what is more important to me and it certainly is not a weeks holiday Benidorm or any other place for that matter

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You can google details of the Hearts scheme by entering Foundation of Hearts. Fan ownership is the way to go.
Good Luck

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Wouldnt give RST or rsa one penny, they are useless attention seekers who are only interested in getting their names in the papers. I would remind you they described Whyte as "impressive".

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I'm not a rangers fan, but I feel your club has been hijacked by a cabal of asset strippers who treat you as a cash cow. They have played up to the element within your support you could do without. LCD and all that. The best model currently operated in the uk is fc united. of manchester. You don't need these shysters to run a football club and they have proved it.

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@4- alternative suggestions please?Thanks

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Baybear, the RST are the ones who organised the hate campaign against the Americans, they backed Whyte, when the Bbc programme went to air they demanded a meeting with Whyte, the one question they asked was when will accounts be published. Then when Green took over they demanded season ticket prices be reduced. They are hopeless.

We need and have all along needed a Dempsey figure, who could be the figurehead for all. We don't have one. Giving your hard earned money to these people who always seem to have an in with those in charge is folly. As long as they get the occasional quote in the press is all they care about. They speak "on behalf of the fans", well they don't and will never speak for me.

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OP here my thanks to Baybear and posts 2, 3 and 5 and@ 4 any other thoughts welcome to constructively assist us to get out of the current mess.
@3 will go on to the site as you suggest thanks

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03 Aug 2013 12:18:59
is the rangers game on tv?

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03 Aug 2013 10:34:40
See Charles Green is in the paper sayin McCoist will have problems if he doesn't win the league and the cup. This guy must polish his neck at night. Coisty will wait you out like he does all the others. He is our brother from another mother. Watp

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03 Aug 2013 12:59:41
Here's what I said back in the middle of May:

'A sham and a scam to get STs sold in even bigger numbers than last year when it appears the good guys and Rangers men win the day. Everyone is in on this and they're taking the fans for mugs again. You heard it first here. '

Note EVERYONE is in on this i. e Green would return once the STs sold.

Salmon Leap Bear

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Now that McColl is posturing to be top dog does that mean Ally's got to come out again and say McColl's the right man for the job, just like he's done with every other supposed top dog? Shine up your nose Ally!

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@ OP Forfar 2 Rangers 1 thank goodness my brother and I have the same mother. let's wait for the excuses no trialists, early in the season, it's not his team blah blah' As a player he was a legend as a manager he is mince

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03 Aug 2013 09:54:15
Ally, what a man! He does keep up appearances well. still bleating at other clubs while bleeding Rangers dry with his new friends. What a man.

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03 Aug 2013 09:38:17
If McColl wants control he'll simply need to buy everybody else out. Simple as that. He had the chance at the beginning with Walter smith, didn't put up and walked away. It'll cost him a lot more now. Actually, not very smart business acumen being shown at all. He could have delivered £5.6m to buy the whole kahoona and didn't. Bet he's really regretting that.
I forecast green will remove smith as chairman, because smith is with McColl and smith doesn't want the job.

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What you should be looking at is the mention in some of todays papers that we only have £7. 000. 000 million left out of £22 million? if this is indeed correct we will have no money by December. We prehaps shold be more worried about this issue (as in right now). or we will be running on empty for the final 5months of the season.

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03 Aug 2013 09:16:38
Can I ask an honest question.
On Wednesday Peralta scored against Dundee, he then ran to the dugout and blessed himself, Durrant looked horrified and Ally turned away in disgust. Subsequently all traces of his goal "Celebration" have been removed from official Rangers videos/tweets etc.
If your club has changed and are now more "inclusive" why this reaction from the clubs officials to a player blessing himself? Timalloy

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I was at the game and your full of s*** he turned backed on the way to the dug out so what usual tim always trying to stir ir it where is your big signing we hear of oh forgot liewell not lennon runs your club not like lennon would have u believe

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@1/ It's actually you that's full of it mate. The clip was on youtube and the rangers site and it is now removed.

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03 Aug 2013 13:04:43
@1: isn't it the job of the ceo to run it? And why Liewell? Surely the best liars in running football clubs in the past few years have all been at yours?

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@1. Why are you taking a brainstorm about NL and Lawell. It was a simple question that was asked. Why is there no trace of footage of Peraltas goal and celebrations from Wed night?. DH

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@2 so you are making out that rangers took the video down because he blessed himself pure and utter pish mate av got the rangers app on my phone and its on there you quite clearly see him bless himself and mccoist comes from the dugout clapping so there you go a but low tryin to make out rangers got the clip removed but left it on their app so if you and post 4 want to see it download the app if your phones good enough

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I sincerely hope this is just you reading what you want into this Timalloy. If not I can only express utter dismay. That said, did big Amo not bless himself on a regular basis? As did Amato and Capucho? I don't remember that ever being an issue. What I suggest you do Tim is focus on the fact that the vast majority of us Rangers fans couldn't care less if a player blesses himself or not. Believe it or not we as a support have moved with the times and do take a dim view of religious or racial hatred. However there are some who preach to us but really they don't want us to be seen as anything other than bigots as it suits their agenda. sound familiar?

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Http://www.rangers.co.uk/news/rangerstv/item/4651-video-peralta-free-kick

There you go Timalloy, straight from the Rangers website. Didnae look very hard did you.

Don't know what you watched but this clip clearly shows Durrant looking nothing remotely close to 'horrified' he's smiling. Meanwhile McCoist is beaming with the class of the strike, clapping his hands and facing the player. Think you need to remove the varifocals you got from BigotExpress. Some folk just see what they want to. Time to move on into this century Tim and let us get on with doing the same.

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03 Aug 2013 08:53:26
Here's my thoughts. When Green arrived and established his board of numpties Malcolm Murray and his group became suspicious. It was clear there was unrest so green recruited figureheads like Walter to increase his popularity. Walter, Murray and mccoist have since been working behind the scenes to feed McColl and his associates inside information but in the meantime have been keeping those on the current board such as Mather sweet by bumming them up. I believe Walter is the main man behind this attempt to reverse power and give it to rangers minded business men. It would be impossible for Walter to come out to the fans and be honest as the would jeopardise this plan

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03 Aug 2013 12:07:52
I agree 100 percent you can't always show your hand as it would alert the opposition briblue

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Yeah, Green & co won't have realised that Walter might feed his pals secret information lol.

Much as I don't like Green and never have I'll give him this - he's as fly as they come and he's been through scenarios like this plenty of times before.

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So what is the definition of 'Rangers minded', David Murray, Craig Whyte.. Even questions need to be asked of Smith and McCoist's intentions, they have changed their minds more times than a women choosing a frock!! I don't give a flying f**k about all this Rangers minded nonsense, get men in that can run a club properly, isn't that more important? Even if it takes a wee bit longer than we want, wouldn't you prefer to get back to the top league on a stable financial footing and ready to challenge for top honours rather than climb up there with all this uncertainty.

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Well why did he not back Malcolm Murray? Why did he not tell the fans the truth at ST renewing time and make it easier for Mr McColl to buy in? The ST's were the key in all this and Walter and Ally said nothing.

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03 Aug 2013 06:12:13
Perhaps the new theme song at half-time at Ibrox shold be The Who anthem "Wont Be Fooled Again" - or perhaps not! - follow the Gullible Bear!

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03 Aug 2013 02:54:46
really enjoyed watching the partick v dd utd game tonight, both teams going for it and a good advert for scottish football, was well impressed with the partick left back who had a great left foot, can't remember his name but worth a watch if you ask me, instead of wasting money on overpaid. over-rated foreigners, look closer to home ally!
or should I say, the so called scouts!

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Aaron Taylor Sinclair is his name. Firstly, he's out of your league - way too good for the third tier, secondly, you couldn't afford him Lastly, he's on a contract, not the usual freeby you boys are chasing.
Good luck with the return of Charlie Chuckles.

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03 Aug 2013 08:17:26
Daily R claiming Jim McColl is behind Paul Murrays attempted coup. Great news for you guys at last, maybe just maybe a chink of light. also reported Walter resisted Green coming back.

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Why did McColl not make a move when the assets were sold to Green. Still lots to untangle I think.

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Of course Walter resisted! Anyone who thought otherwise is delusional. And everyone who keeps shouting for Walter to come out and speak needs to wake up. what exactly would you have him say?

There would be more chaos than there is now.

It would seem, from the outside looking in that there is a plan in place to oust those that need removing and Walter I'm guessing is the man on the inside.

RTID
GDog

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03 Aug 2013 01:38:14
I said on here six weeks ago fans should hold onto their money and pay game per game, keep the power because once all the season ticket money is in the power is back with Green.
The money is all in, and surprise surprise Green is back in the big Hoose in control. Feeling gullible? Expect the usual surrounded by enemies, day of reckoning discourse and propaganda.
Walter and Ally and Jabba all keeping quiet and taking the big coin. I'm convinced Jabba or someone from his media machine was in these sites encouraging ST purchase saying you won't get players if you don't buy. There was emotional pressure on fans and Walter and Ally went along with it.
If Mathers walks with Stockbridge before accounts are published then its clearly over.
These eight players won't get officially signed on sept 01.

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Walter and Ally are starting to look like they will say what they are told to keep a job.

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I wish I had the excuse that I was gullible then I could blame someone else. Truth is, like you I encouraged keeping ST money and retaining power. I took some grief for my views and held out for a while but when it came to it I crumbled like everyone else. I'm just a supporter who wants to be part of my club and watch them play football.
Gullible? No Blind faith? Guilty.

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The players will be signed but another administration is a cert they know this that's why all these players are being brought in to beat a points deduction and signing ban

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They already have signed! They just can't play until then. absolute rubbish

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03 Aug 2013 11:43:10
Give walter and Ally a break, a lot happening behind the scenes right now Walter seemingly did not want Green back and now power struggle beginning to take shape hopefully with Mcoll and co at the helm. bri blue

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Hey Baybear, what's tonight's lottery numbers? you were spot on 6 weeks ago I wish people had listened.
gbhoy

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@6- 18 72 54 33 1 40 ;0)

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Lol Baybear I predicted 1872 not the rest.

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03 Aug 2013 00:43:06
what is walter and ally doing just taking moiney out the pot they must know what is going on and green etc have ran rings round walter who now wants out expect the blame game to start these removals are planned as is the whole thing and I suspect whyte is still in there as getting rent for assests

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02 Aug 2013 23:32:25
Would like to see big Kevin Thomson back at rangers he's a good holding midfeilder and he's better than black

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@op your probably the first person ever to call him big Kevin Thomson

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And you must be the first person to want him back, he didn't exactly hold Malmo back did he? and I've not seen him do anything at all since he left.

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02 Aug 2013 21:44:37
is it true that temps is going to Sheffield united







Trueblue9

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03 Aug 2013 03:20:16
To trueblue's question on Templeton I've heard this a few times now but let's just hope its just rumours, with things off the pitch as bad as they are if they start selling off our best players then me and my kids. Won't be going back to ibrox, like ally said we don't do walking away but this is all becoming a joke and just when we thought things couldn't get any worse, really concerned fan.

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03 Aug 2013 00:08:29
Just sent an email to my contact in the RST:
Hi ******

Well it's been another eventful day at the Ibrox circus hasn't it.
Just thought I'd drop you a quick email to see if you're aware of the views of the RST board regarding Charles Greens 'return' and the subsequent boardroom turmoil at Ibrox? Are the RST board planning any action to represent the concerns of the majority of Rangers fans? After previous conversations I imagine you'll be aware that today's events haven't exactly came as a shock to me to say the least. However, after months of encouraging others to use their power and not renew I feel ashamed that I myself also gave in all too easily. Today's news has left me feeling a bit empty. I basically renewed because 32k+ had renewed and I wanted to continue to be a part of our revival. After all, what difference would my one man boycott make with those numbers. I really feel that I have let my club down and as an RST member I feel we should be doing something to at least let the club know we are going to cleanse our club.
If we don't start now we could easily find ourselves like the Pompey troops having to hide parts of their club history and trophies in garages, lofts and cars; just to keep them in safe hands. The longer we keep providing the meals the longer the greedy will keep feasting at the Rangers banquet.

All the best

Baybear

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03 Aug 2013 03:23:39
but what colour are the seats going to be. When the rst last met the board. toothless

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The response will be interesting mate.

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02 Aug 2013 22:23:10
Doom n gloom aside, ally on rangers website tonight saying he's identified a striker he want, anyone any idea's!

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So after Clark and Daly, with McCulloch as back up he wants another striker. This is getting ridiculous how many players does he want for the first division.

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Bob Crow

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I don't like much that comes out of charles greens mouth but he's correct when he has told ally the league isn't enough, we have a 7 millon wage and keeps growing, ally is hopeless and cost the club millions since he took over.

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Yes, get rid of McCoist before he bankrupts us once and for all, the amount of players he needs to compete at this level is truly pathetic, he is a joke.

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