Rangers Banter Archive February 03 2012

03 Feb 2012 23:52:00
A question for every Rangers fan.

If you were fortunate enough to one day own Rangers, is one of the first things you would do, be to meet with the players. The answer is an obvious yes.

Jelavic has said that in the whole time since Whyte took over, Whyte never spoke to him once.

Whyte claims to be a boyhood Rangers supporter, I think this shows otherwise.

One lie after another.

I'm not saying I wouldn't but Jelavic is a 26 year old boy from Croatia who's played for Rangers for 18 months. Yes a decent player but hardly my hero. I'm more interested that he's supposed to be hiring a Rangers legend in Gough. Your point is rubbish.

pappy

And Pappy - your point is pure pap.

03 Feb 2012 23:26:05
Can McCoist survive a defeat on Sunday ?

03 Feb 2012 22:32:30
Ed See If David Healy Was To Get Injured Could Rangers Ask The SFA If They Could Get A Player On A Emergency Loan ? Big Blue {Ed001's Note - they could just as easily sign a free contract player, it is very unlikely the SFA would allow an emergency loan for a striker.}

Why would the SFA allow Rangers an emergency loan signing. If Rangers have let 10 players go out or leave in January, then Rangers have to accept responsibility for that.

I think only goalkeepers can be signed on emergency terms
ThatsNotMyName

03 Feb 2012 22:19:25
We are the people remember that, we will not go under and we will get through this s*it, if we stick together and support Super Ally and the Club, we will get through this, no1 club in the country with no1 supporter's, stick together people

The future of Rangers is out of your hands and no matter how much you support the team it will be HMRC that are the catalysts that will decide Rangers future.

Lets get real.rangers will never go out of buisness there far to big a club for that.admin is a real poss but you would be able to work thru that,prob take a few years of hardship but you would come thru.even if liquidation happened a new rangers would emerge again with some hardship.even relegation would only be for two seasons,does anybody really think you would not win back to back promotions? ..green jhedi

03 Feb 2012 21:51:30
please post this
i wish yous would all stop moaning about jelivic hes gone thats is over we have a decent group of players that will do a job we need them to do and win the double dont worry there is no one out there that can say a word about super ally (mr rangers) he wont let us down what would have been the point getting sanndazza on a 2-3 year contract when we would only have needed him for half a season big laff will be back soon chelic will get goals and now davis will get a free role to do his stuff now stop fu**ing moaning and support ally and the lads they wont let us down the futures bright the futures orange watp

Admire your optimism my man, though it is going to be tough, very tough. certainly dont expect us to win the league from here if im honest but give it a right good shot and see where it takes us !

james rfc 1980

Your big problem might be suspensions,think your squads a bit thin. green jhedi

03 Feb 2012 20:55:09
Just a thot,if sold 15,000,4 year season tikets say including first rite to buy euro games cup games at say 2000 giving fans a 18 month direct debit or outrite package,(quicker better),would b 30 million,1500 option including second offer of above would b 22.5 million,1000 for 4 years as above but 3rd choice of games above would be ten million,62.5 million in 18 months or quicker as its a example,if we can loan against season tickets surely can sell them 2,start only buying and selling things threw our own shops,maxamise profits,the clubs own catering,chip vans,whatever money their if it wunts to be made

Pish....trueblue.....

Trouble is Rangers have sold advance season tickets for 4 years, have already sold out on the merchandising deal and have sold the franchise for catering.

Season tickets for what , who and where ? if Rangers go bust : they will have no players , no park , no history , do you honestly think you could sell all these thousands of tickets for Division 3 matches against East Stirlingshire , Elgin City , Montrose etc (no disrespect to these clubs) , you certainly wouldn't need to worry about European ticket allocations , i'm sure you'll wake up soon my man .

03 Feb 2012 20:17:22
Its time we put all this crap behind us fellow bears. The window is shut - fact, no more players for now. We have got the talent in that team to overcome some tough challenges and be in no doubt that the next half of the season will be tough but I wouldnt want it any other way... 4 in a row will taste even better!

Get behind the boys and support your team!

(Craig Whyte OUT!!)

CC

03 Feb 2012 19:32:21
is ally lying to keep a job?

No, Whyte would have to pay him off if he was sacked, so highly unlikely.

GovanFR

03 Feb 2012 19:20:54
Ed keep up the good work . Reading some notes people keep asking you same question cheers for being patient Kingbilly boy {Ed001's Note - cheers mate.}

03 Feb 2012 19:08:43
Sky Sports have listed the squad of players available for selection for the game on Sunday. McKays name is missing don't know if this is an oversight or not. Some strange strange decisions at Ibrox. Blue4ever

03 Feb 2012 18:49:07
I was thinking what everyone thinks about some of neil lennons comments that in these times when so called fans have gave this guy vile abuse...he then comes out and says how he feels sorry for the rangers fans in these times,this guy could have stuck the knife in but no he acted like any human being would...he forgot the letter bombs ,bullets and lies to rise above the bigots...bigots which both sides have....Neil Lennon is a lesson for all of us....let's not forget our club Celtic have been down the street rangers are on at the moment with cracks on the clubs crest all over the papers...the media like to make things sound the extreme

He had digs in his interview as well. He hates Rangers end of!

What comments some info please

You say he is a lesson to us all? He said he felt sympathy for the fans , but that celtic were ok and better run and that he couldnt care less about rangers whether it survived or not, that celtic would go on regardless , i think you will also find he stated this as well.

My god I hope your not talking for all rangers fans...of course Lennon wants to beat rangers in every game and them to lose every game..wouldn't you want that the other way I'm sure ally mccoist wants to do that to us....so getting back to the point in Neil lennons interview state when he said anything but positive things ...your just a blinkered bigot who gives all supporters a bad name

So the interviewer posing the questions ,what do you think Neil Lennon should have said that would please both set of supporters

I have absolutley no problem with what lennon said. Of course he wants to beat rangers and there's nothing wrong with believing celtic don't need rangers! He's a celtic man! Get a grip!

Raab

Why are you even bothering about what Neil Lennon Says, who gives a toss what he thinks or says, I don't care if he feels sorry for us, because I didn't for him, when Killie where 3 nil up I was screaming for 4, and I bet every true Ranger was.

Pete

03 Feb 2012 18:22:11
I was with you till you said the bit about the £30m plus the transfer money coming in handy if the court case goes against us. How then do we pay the wages man think about it, we needed the securitisation money for working capital if it goes there is very little left.

03 Feb 2012 17:14:32
Ed. Are my comments never posted because i'm articulate? Or just because they you feel obliged to show rubbish? {Ed014's Note - Do you mean rubbish like this?Stupid one line posts get deleted.Posts that add nothing to the thread get deleted.Posts with a name get priority and anonymous moaning face little girls posts, we really don't take much notice of them.

03 Feb 2012 16:56:39
Lafferty will score us the goals that we are anticipated to lose from Jelavic leaving. I'm pretty certain of it. The big man gets a lot of stick, too much if you ask me, but he has continued to score important goals when we've needed them. Remember back to last season, 1 down away to Hearts, Laff comes off the bench to score a free kick, Naismith secures the win in injury time. Kilmarnock on the final day...helps himself to a hat trick, Aberdeen away earlier this season when Naisy was injured, the OF game at Ibrox the list goes on and on..... He was used wide left for a good bit in his early rangers career and has probably had his most consistant run playing through the middle last season and was excellent for us, even early this season he continued his for from the season before. Play Mervan and Aluko either side of the big man with Davis in an advanced midfield position to link middle to front and the big man will flourish. Edu and another sitting midfielder behind Davis for insurance and our team doesn't look half as bad as first feared. This titles still there to be won, no favours required. 4IAR!!!


J1985

03 Feb 2012 16:34:34
Forget mccoist past at the club,as a manager he worse than plg,now after his comments today he is a whyte puppet,what happens upstairs happens upstairs mccoist is now as big a liar as the rest,could c ferguson or mourino or any other decant manager taking that,thot mccoist would of had the guts to come clean to fans instead he rather keep his job instead of being the man that him,the days of loyalitu from clubs to supporyers died years ago mccoist out for his wage packet like everyone else,playing legand,managerial wimp n disaster star to end ,and what thanks will mccoist get a great big knife in back when whyte see fitmark my words n he got himself ta blame for not demanding answers n giving them to loyal fans that give him legand status,thats what anyone would do if u were what you said,good luck ally in being a pawn in whytes life,really let us down with this

Please xplain the convetsation whyte n ally must of had n thes push yout didagree button or xplain y u think mccoist not a puppet n a pawn

Clearly McCoist wanted money and Whyte wouldn't give it to him. As he said its natural for the disagreements. What did you wants him to say today? That he hates Whyte and resigns? What would that achieve, he is getting on with the job that he has been desperate to get for years, he has shown loyalty to the club something you clearly wouldn't/

GovanFR

03 Feb 2012 16:27:41
Hope everyone unites behind McCoist he is hurting as much as we are. Feel sorry for him but have confidence in him to shine as he did as a player.

Billyboy1

And why shouldn't we be support our manager bb1. I don't know where you got that fae. We have always been behind Ally. You are spending to much time on the c****c page. Get a grip man and grow a pair.
Digab

Well have you seem some of the posts on here mate? Ally gets abuse from all angles on here.

Billyboy1

03 Feb 2012 16:15:37
Team for sunday I think will be.

Mcgregor

Papac
Goian
Bocanegra
Bartley

Celik
Mcculloch
Edu
Davis
Aluko

Healy


Alexcee88

03 Feb 2012 16:03:49
white blames the old board for rangers troubles.in the next breath he says he is very close to david murray.he was the board.the rest were puppets.or mabe i have missed something. w.a.t.p.

In the contract he signed to take over theres a clause saying he cant talk about murray..........the info is out there..just look

I think I will apply for a job as a puppet, think vain was on 200k a year not bad for a puppet

I think he is right on both counts, yes there is no doubt that The Murray regime, (and he was not alone in that board room) got us into the mess, but he would be wrong not to seek advice from SDM. You have also got to factor in that Murray is defending Rangers in the EBT case, its not Whyte's Lawyers that are calling the shots in the courthouse

Pete

03 Feb 2012 15:55:37
Ally like you has an opinion, you want to be throwing your pelters at scrooge Mc Duck (Smith) and Dr White they are the ones who have farmed everyone out!! Everyone was asking what dose Smith do! Are you that stupid����. Farms our squad out to save money! O.M.G ���really, shocking.

03 Feb 2012 15:28:00
Good afternoon fellow bears������

And still it rumbles on, this site is full of would be football managers and financial advisers! And now we are being treated to some did he or didn�t he, the jelly man, (who cares, he�s part of our history now), my what a wealth of intelligency we have, to you all I say f*** O** and get a life, come Sunday we will do the talking with our feet, the wee man has everything required to steer us through this mire and he will, so stop presuming and fuelling this nonsense and get behind our beloved GLASGOW RANGERS, and Green Jehedi who cares!!....................

Come the bears�. Its great being a bear, in the wee man we trust, four in a row, it�s written in stone it always has been, ally�s the man. Ta ta for now������

Ally might not have had a lot of money to spend but that should not cover up his poor showing as a manager . in ally I don't trust .

03 Feb 2012 15:11:57
When will the supporters realise that rangers are a business like every other business.if they get found guilty of not paying tax the tax man will take it and if that means putting them out of business for the money they will! Just because it's rangers it doesn't put them above the law..the rangers support wouldn't be missed with there bigotry and violent behaviour and a team that wouldn't compete in the 3rd decision.p.s sky wouldn't want use either down south and I have it on good authority that there praying use do go out the game so they can invite the famous Glasgow Celtic and there award winning supporters into the English league. Hail hail rusty the good looking and intelligent tim!!!!

What a lot of rubbish, you have as much chance as getting to England as us no chance.

What a load of pash, firstly your stadium isn't in England, secondly your toxic political ideology, thirdly the other English teams are not going to sit back and let you and finally the lost global revenue of gers fans ditching sky, you are a fud dusty bin

Well said rusty

JGD

Typical rangers fan, no knowledge of football but that shows with who you support and the way they play.rangers are going to get football stopped.Cardiff stadium in England??? Who pays the clubs tv money?o yes sky so if they say it's to happen it will happen!!honestly is there a sensible rangers supporter out there!! Rusty the tim

Crusty, the clown more like, "putting them out of business for the Money"
What are you talking about. If Rangers go out of Business,the taxman will get no money, are you that stupid that you do not understand that. Administration for Rangers is extremely bad news for hector.
The only think you have on good authority is that your not very bright.

Pete {Ed014's Note - HMRC will get their money.Of that there is no doubt.As for Whyte being main creditor nowhere says this,ticketus would have needed gaurantees they would get their money back.

Well let's just wait and see, shall we.

Pete

Ed, I think Whyte said he is the Main Creditor in the interview with the Sun, The Ticketus deal was underwritten by one of Whytes other companies, it says that in the interview also. There is also information out there that says that HMRC would stand behind the Main Creditor in terms of payment along with a few others, It even mentions it in the BBC documentary. So If all that is Bull then fair enough ..

Pete {Ed014's Note - Well it must be true if it is in The S*n.Just because this story suits,what about all the other "lies" that have been printed that people don't believe.It can't work both ways.

This illustrates the lack of football knowledge Rusty has, the welsh teams were allowed in England as there was no Welsh league and it was endorsed by Uefa, England and Wales years ago. Very different now. We have already a structured league and I doubt the SFA will sit by and let you leave, Scotlands place as a national team would also be in jeopardy, you really are a t**t son and no nothing, but hey you support the tic

Crusty, stick to being funny on 'The Simpsons' that's what your good at.

There seems to be some confusion between the HMRC case and ticketus scenario. they are entirely different entities and will be concluded as such.

03 Feb 2012 14:40:59
If you look for an excuse, you will always find it."

Perhaps it would be a wise move for everyone concerned with Rangers at the moment to heed these words spoken by none other than recently departed captain Davie Weir. It's not as if the centre back doesn't know what he's talking about; after twenty years of experience in British football, Weir has seen it all, from the World Cup to the Champions League. He spoke these aforementioned words in September, but they are arguably more applicable now than ever.

A grey, gloomy picture has been painted at Ibrox of late, and not without good reason. It's a bit of a masochist's haven at the moment. Not only has the top scorer been sold without replacement, but the second top scorer is out injured for the rest of the season. Not only has the club got a £50m tax bill on the way that will undeniably, unquestionably see Rangers FC reduced to playing in Kelvingrove Park on Sunday mornings for the next 100 years (apparently), but our chairman, Craig Whyte, has mortgaged off the next four years of season ticket money. Add into that the fact that the side, once 15 points clear of Celtic, now find themselves a whole point behind their dearest rivals, and you can understand why 42,500 season ticket holders are currently feeling a bit down in the dumps.

But let's take a step back here.

Are things really that bad?

Here are a series of irrefutable facts that may lighten your mood. Not opinions, not value judgements, but cold, hard facts.

Nikica Jelavic played a part in 27 out of a possible 29 competitive games this season. The two games he missed were home SPL fixtures against Motherwell and Hibernian. Against these two teams, a total of seven goals were scored. Not only that, but the team enjoyed an average of 59% possession. Compared to the two most recent home games against Inverness and Aberdeen in which Jelavic started where the defending champions managed just three goals, and an average of 48.5% possession. Ok, it's a small sample. Naturally, there will be dozens of permutations, but this shows that the team can win, and win well, without the Croatian centre forward.

Now, that's all very well, but the fact remains that the team have let a fifteen point lead go in the league. This has led a substantial number of pundits to declare the championship race over. This would carry a bit more weight if similar claims hadn't been made during each of the past three seasons. Again, let's look at the facts. Celtic's next four away games are at Tynecastle, Easter Road, Pittodrie and Ibrox, which are hardly easy places to go and win. In fact, in their past eleven visits to Tynecastle, Celtic have won just four times. Contrast this to Rangers' schedule in the next couple of months in which the most taxing non Old Firm fixture is probably away to Motherwell. Despite the injuries and departures, Rangers remain far stronger than the vast majority of SPL teams. A decent run of fixtures in February and March could see this title race turn on its head, yet again.

Finally, a bit about the financial stuff. Firstly, the season ticket spiel is relatively old news; in the court case with former chief executive, Martin Bain, this was revealed in June of last year. God knows why it has suddenly been highlighted by the media again. Furthermore, this is nothing unique to G51. Everton and Coventry City are examples of two other club who have used future season ticket sales as security for a loan without any noticeable adverse effects, but nobody's really thought to mention that so far.

Now, as for this seemingly apocalyptic tax case, there's relatively little new to be said. It's not really in the club's hands anymore. Having said that, to all those who believe that the club is guilty as sin, why would such a clean cut case take so long to be concluded? Besides, the £30m odd raised from the future season ticket sales plus the Jelavic deal will surely come in handy, should the club be found guilty.

Down Govan way, there are plenty of excuses out there for those who need them right now. However, in all of its 140 year history, excuses have never been welcomed at this club. Instead, they've been rebranded 'motivation'. From beating the greatest German club side of all time, to winning a cup final with 9 men, every problematic situation has been met not with a whimper, not even a mere 'let's get on with it' mentality, but with a steely retaliation. Why should anything different be expected this time around?

KEEP BELIEVING

Nice post mate, makes a lot of sense.

Pete

03 Feb 2012 14:28:09
It is clear Craig Whyte will not be ploughing millions into the team any time soon (and probably never will as he has no personal fortune)so now is the time to field our youngsters from the academy (around the skeleton of more senior players) and all supporters get right behind Ally and his super babes. Perhaps this is why so many are being loaned out now to get pricesless game time before next season. I know its a tall order but if we can win championships and cups with a young team there will be no better feeling especially for all Celik fans when they realize the joke is on them.

UEFA Fair rules would prevent him from putting money into the team. From next season you can only sent money that is generated by the club.

Pete

03 Feb 2012 13:05:32
AH WANT EH TROOTH! boohoohoo greet, greet.

This site is now starting to sound like an episode of Jeremy Kyle.

pappy

What's the hearts player got to with us?

Tell jeremy kyle on the post to put something on the end of it ..and grow a pair...lol {Ed014's Note - Jeremy Kyle from Hearts? It is Kevin Kyle.

03 Feb 2012 12:27:41
as a fan of the club it shocked me to read craig whyte's statement on the s*n web site that the transfer that we got is the summer and the new contracts to davis,whittaker,mcgregor with agent fee's cost us 15 million.surly that must be considered bad business.i don't think any fan would considered davis,whittaker or mcgregor irreplaceable.i was also shocked that he says 4 million was spent refurbishing ibrox.where in ibrox has this been spent.

The work at ipox was done using a commonwealth games fund grant,sounds like more lies.............no! he wouldnt..would he? green jhedi

I have heard no mention of any grant being given to Rangers, I don't know what the Stadium is being used for during the games.

Can anyone shed any light - ED

Pete {Ed014's Note - Ibrox will be used for the Rugby 7s. It was a grant that paid or the screens.

Ed014: thank you.hope that helped pete,try and keep up eh........green jhedi

03 Feb 2012 10:27:55
Supergiant crustacean discovered by British scientists at bottom of the ocean.

British scientists are bemused at Celtic manager Neil Lennon as he makes immediate enquiries about pre contract signings. "We're trying to take the Celtic brand world wide and having never signed anyone from Crustacia before thought it be good to get in first ahead of the rush" He went on " we know that our rivals had previously signed Croatian Dado Prso but this capture should see us getting in first" " we are 1 point ahead in the SPL and want to stay ahead of our rivals in signings too, so even although the transfer window is shut we are being proactive in netting signings" The seven supergiants that were caught are being kept in Wellington, New Zealand until the team�s SPL expedition ends.

It made me laugh mate, keep up the good work

JG

Really? i am assuming thats meant to be funny? considering rangers could not afford a crustacean from lennons nose i suppose we might laugh at you.............again. good to know you rec claros to hibs,very sporting.

Typical response from a Celtic fans.....er.....yous dont have money.

GovanFR

It certainly is not funny, on a par with your 'lennons nose' joke. Oh......how we laughed.

Glad it made you laugh you are looking a bit fed up just now.....green jhedi

03 Feb 2012 09:20:50
Ed... not sure how much you know about the tax case but I am curious about what it would mean for the club if we did somehow win the case and fend off any appeal by HMRC. Would this mean that we would in actual fact be in quite a strong financial situation after cutting several costs? I am as frustrated as most fans but will reserve judgement about CW until there is concrete evidence to back up allegations against him. As for positives, we now have great opportunity to identify and develop our best young talent and if we did win the SPL this year it would be a special feeling.

WATP {Ed001's Note - that really depends on whether the club has put aside a significant sum towards paying off a bill or not. At the very least Rangers are in a better long term state than they were, but, in the short term, there will still be financial pain to suffer. The club will still be running at a loss.}

You don't think that there is concrete evidence against whyte?
He lied about being barred from being a director, he lied about the transfer funds, he appears to have used season ticket money for four years to pay the £18m to lloyds, if he has not show where it is -easy. What more concrete evidence do ppl require. He is an asset stripper, that is his job, he is selling our assets, and still ppl think that he is the saviour. He is a vulture picking the bones clean. Remember if it looks like a duck, waddles like a duck and quacks like a duck, it is probably a duck

Ed - How do you work that out? When Craig Whyte took over the club he knew there was major financial problems at Rangers and the first thing he did was to increase the wage bill significantly by giving out more lucrative contracts. He has taken out a massive "Payday" loan by mortgaging the ST for the next 3-4 years (most clubs would do 3-4 months worth) and the clubs overall debt is now actually larger....no audited accounts submitted, no agm been held, unlikely to be playing European football for 3 years..how is that better in the long term? In the short term rangers have cut costs by not paying their bills...people can sit with their heads in the sand if they wish but this is a dire situation without the tax case...the tax case will however be the straw that will break the camels back!

Ed - This is a banter site is it not? Any reason you never posted my sensible post earlier today questioning why you think Rangers are in a better long term state now?
Don74 {Ed014's Note - Because it is sitting waiting on Ed001 answering it.It was addressed to him.Any reason that you think all we have to do is chase after posters that can't wait or think they have a divine right to be answered?

Ed - No divine right to be answered but when you answer some of the total rubbish on here I thought you just hadn't replied because I was questioning your opinion. Which by the way much like Craig Whyte you haven't done yet. So as I value your opinion perhaps you could explain why you think Rangers are in a better long term situation then before?
Don74 {Ed001's Note - because they have lowered costs and got the club closer to being a profitable organisation, once the debts are cleared.}

03 Feb 2012 08:31:21
i see all this did he ask for transfer (lelavic)did he not dose it matter the point is he has gone along with about ten other players form the wage bill either on loan or sold so a squad that the manager said was to small is now almost at breaking point we are depending on getting players back from injury and not loosing any players to injury and that will not happen though the title is not gone we all know it would have been a bit easier if we had even got a couple of players n on loan but you dont have to be a brain surgeon to see the chairman is selling just to keep us afloat the title in his mind is not important keeping us going is so where has the money gone he borrowed against season tickets and the promises of a war chest for ally it lies smoke screens mirrors chairman let hold the A.G.M and tell us the truth we as supporters may even be willing to put OUR hands in pockets and help but unless we know the truth we will always suspect the worst and slowly the ground will empty back to the pre souness days then how do you pay that money back at all cost you must keep us on board we are the life blood of the club bur somehow i think you dont care what you think

According to ali russell jelavic told mccoist on monday he wanted to go,mccoist said he wanted to stay.hmmm...who to believe?..green jhedi

That's a valid point who do we believe, Ali or Jela?. Well what made my mind up and the one thing you cannot argue with, is the last 6 weeks he was playing like someone who didn't want to be there.

Pete

03 Feb 2012 07:49:03
Accounts still no signed off I see, like they were never going to be "by the end of the month (Jan)". To all the Whyte apologists who basically say: well we don't KNOW FOR SURE he's a crook do we, let's just support the team bla bla, it would help if you could believe anything that came out his gob. Everything seems like a stalling tactic. He probably knew people would be too upset by the inevitable debacle at the end of the transfer window to ask questions about the accounts or agm! "We just want information", the truth about anything would also be a novelty.

Whyte apologists? We call ourselfs, positive fans. Go n cry somewhere else.

03 Feb 2012 04:46:34
so rangers turned down 9 million from an unnamed club only to accept 5.5 million in Jan? strange bit of business

As an evertonian I got shouted down over my comments,rangers and everton have a close bond from players to managers to such an extent rangers owed everton from previous deals rather than chase the debt or report late payment to uefa etc a gentlemans agreement was reached regarding any future talent...this explains the missing millions...I'm not trying to make rangers look bad but as you can see buy constant debt findings the club and it's board have been run as a joke...as usual the supporters face the blunt of it...but technicially it makes your recent years successes worthless and should be taken away because as other clubs were trying to balance books with there income rangers were conning everyone and their own fans by living beyond their means

03 Feb 2012 01:17:56
Bottom line is it should never have come down to us relying on David Healy to keep us in the hunt. It's a disgrace and we deserve the truth what happens if Healy gets injured? Then we don't have an out and out striker fit! Surely there must be a striker out there we can get cheap?

IF he gets injured, we'll deal with it, hell, never seen so many defeatist fans in my life

Here's an if for ye, imagine IF we win the league with all this sh*te goin on

INTAE THUM

I don`t think the fans are being defeatist,the y are just being realistic.if we win the league it will be the greatest in our history but i am starting to think we will need a miracle.

Get along to your nearest bookie and empty your bank balance on 4IAR INTAE THUM. I imagine you'll be pretty well rewarded supposing it ever happens and the bookie certainlm won't have any objections to taking your money.

I'll take that bet. C WHYTE