Rangers Banter Archive November 03 2011

03 Nov 2011 22:23:41
martin bain gives himself 45 grand bonus for the team getting to the uefa cup final... WHY . this guy was taken money from the club when times were hard but now he wants to take the club to court for more money........TAKE A LOOK IN THE MIRROR

Think the problem was he couldn't stop looking in the mirror
NTYABOW

Would you work for free?

He wasn't working for free.... he was on £550,000 a year but he gets the players £45,000 bonus for what?! He didn't play one second on the way to the Final

I,personally would work for free for rangers

Your wish may come true and you could be working for free when you go into administration.

03 Nov 2011 22:02:34
Ed001 reading your debate about kids & their ability & facilities in scotland & I agree that uruguay is an excellent example of how 2 bring through kids hence their performance in the last world cup & winning the copa america, but I must add 2 the debate that in scotland I believe the kids don't have the same desire 2 play the game, I take my son 2 his team he is a very good defender left sided, great reader of the game, but if you were 2 ask him if he wanted 2 go 2 the cinema or escape or any other place he would easily pick these over going out 2 play with his pals at football & I think this is the problem, as you know all we wanted 2 do was play the game for as long as we could, but I also think alot is 2 do with the coaching I will take nothing away from these guys as I couldn't do it the weans would drive me mental, but I could write on ma hand what some of these guys know about the game, the early touches programme the sfa run any1 can do & it doesn't take much 2 gain this coaching certificate, but I will give you's something more 2 worry about a guy I went 2 school with who was 1 of the worst football players I have ever seen coaches the youths at murray park I don't know how he got the gig but he must talk a good game & that scares me as coaches at RANGERS at all levels should have played the game at a decent level, I also know another guy I went 2 school with who was head of youth development at sfa who never even played at all, at play time in school he played with the lassies, so as far as I am concerned there is alot of leaches who are sucking the life out of the game in this country & they are not putting anything back in as their knowledge of football is pathetic
NTYABOW {Ed001's Note - to be fair, good players don't necessarily make good coaches. A youth coach needs to be enthusiastic more than anything else and to be able to impart that enthusiasm to the kids being coached. The problem is that they don't make the training fun, so kids would rather play COD or FM12 than get out there on a muddy field.}

Agree about you don't have 2 be a good player 2 be good coach as we have seen fergie, wenger, special 1 & SIR WALTER but of these 4, people will tell you apart from the special 1 they all played at a decent level so they had football in them & I bet they all played every hour they could & that brings it back 2 desire , the bit you say about coaches making it fun yes that is true but my point is, going out 2 play with your pals should be fun enough & you learn more that way than any1 can teach you, as timalloy let you's all know the other day I am 41, I still play 5's 3 times a week (do you want 2 find out if I am past it timalloy) but anyway my son asks me all the time what 2 do on the pitch but as I have said 2 guys in my work that coach teams there is only so much you can tell a kid if it's not there then the game is up, you should make up your own mind on a pitch as the end of the day when the ball comes 2 you it's your decision what happens next not the coach the coach can influence you but that's all he can do the rest lies with your's truely
NTYABOW

I am a national list referee with the FA in England. I have been a referee for 12 years after retiring from playing when I was 33 due to injury. I referee in England because I am a former season ticket holder for the Copeland Rd Front and I knew that if I refereed in Scotland, my credibility would be questioned due to my past. I still live in Scotland, but only just. In the village my kids live in, their school has only female teachers and they do not get the football training they need. A couple of years ago, a few of the parents, primarily dads, got together and set up training for all the kids of all ages in the village. Two years later we have two groups of kids training every Sunday morning. Age group 4 to 8 and age group 8 to 15. As I am also a referee, referees mentor, referees tutor and referees assessor with the FA, I am able to impart a little bit of knowledge on the game to those present. My son is 4 years old and I work primarily with that age group, We concentrate on ball control and spacial awareness. We do not teach them tackling until they are a little older. It is our opinion that it is more important to be confident with the ball and be more aware of their options when distributing the ball, than hurtling into tackles, especially at that age. We don't run teams, a few of the other dads are qualified coaches, we don't ask for money, we all donate our time and provide kit from our own pockets. All we want is for our kids to have a chance to play football and to learn to play the right way. My dream is for every Scottish kid to be taught how to play football the right way. Be comfortable on the ball, never be afraid to take the ball under pressure, be aware of those around you and your options to pass the ball. The Spanish way is the way forward, I honestly believe that. With better technical ability, better intelligence and the traditional Scottish hard working ethic on the pitch, we could have a bright future. That's why people volunteer to coach and teach. Without that dream, then nobody would bother.

I think a few schools/parents/teachers should take a wee look at the last post....

You're attitude and that of the other parents should be the attitude across Scotland.

Best of Luck

Rikkisixx

03 Nov 2011 21:04:38
Them 2 sides we lost to in europe are the worst left in europe

We didn't lose to Celtic or Renes mate, so i don't know what you're on about... Muzz

03 Nov 2011 20:22:13
In January this would be good:

Out:
Healy
Broadfoot
Fleck (loan)
Kerkar (loan)

In:
David Templeton and a decent striker

Kerkars contract runs out at the end ofthe season so y loan him out

Loaning him out would mean we don't need to pay all his wages so it wouldn't be that bad of an idea bud

03 Nov 2011 20:08:35
Rennes strike to go ahead yesssssssssssss

As soon as I read that they scored.

But I want them to win because Scotland co-efficient ranking is bad right now

03 Nov 2011 18:35:56
Tony the Ger, read your own Newsnow Rangers, big headline "Whyte meets bigoted Vanguard movement"
these guys sing sectarian songs, posted hate filled messages on the internet and even shout down decent Rangers fans who oppose them.
Why is Whyte even talking to this group, another shoddy PR excercise to make gers fans look elsewhere rather than focus on rangers debts, see they are back in court on Monday, how many more firms will take them to court over unpaid bills.
Barrowfield Bhoy

Barrowfield Bhoy,

Maybe they are bigoted, maybe they aren't but that doesn't mean Craig Shouldn't be a decent man and attend a meeting they politely asked to him to attend.

The blog on vanguardrangers.co.uk seems more genuine than that of rangerstaxcase.com. At least on vanguard rangers they quote Craig Whyte word for word.

Rangerstaxcase do no such thing. The blogger on this site only quotes something from paper or whatever, the rangerstaxcase blogger has no concrete information. The lack of details in his blogs should only highlight this, he makes up foany documents and all you jungle jims believe every detail of it.

Us Rangers fans are all to aware of the current situation at Rangers. What we find baffling is how, as soon as the tax issue arose, every Celtic fan became a financial expert lol.

Everything we have heard of late is rumours and scaremongering.

You can't honestly tell me you buy everything on rangerstaxcase.com barrowfield bhoy? Please tell me you have some common sense.......

TonyTheGer

Tony, I do not pretend to be a tax expert, but so far the guy from rangertaxcase has been pretty accurate, and left all the laptop loyal in his wake, Rangers have financial problems whether you believe it or not. But my main point was this Vanguard movement, my cousin a rangers season ticket holder hates them as he feels they are causing a lot of problems with their attitudes, he says they asked all fans to keep sing billy boys even after it was banned, not a healthy attitude. Now why would Whyte meet these guys instead of the decent fans. He is hiding behind these guys. Barrowfield Boy

Barramank Bhoy,

The guy on rangerstaxcase hasn't been accurate, he is only telling us what we already know. He has no proof of anything, he even made up a false spreadsheet on Rangers current finances. How the hell on this earth can this guy get his hands on such delicate information? The guy is a foany, bud. He posts fake documents in an attempt to draw people like you in.

This was the same guy who posted that Rangers only had £200,000 left in the bank account LMAO! Think about it man!

rangerstaxcase is one lot of gash.

Is it a crime to attend a meeting? The vanguard Rangers arranged the meeting with Whyte in attempt to get their views across to Whyte and what their opinions are. If you read the blog you will understand that.

TonyTheGer

03 Nov 2011 17:35:13
Wake up and smell the coffee whyte is a conman who is in it for a quick buck, said this months ago.
The gers grim reaper

God, now that you've said I'm really getting worried!! How could you not have said this sooner!!
Dmrangers

03 Nov 2011 16:59:53
I see Rangers will not be signing Sise. Come on fellow bears how many times is Whyte going to pull this con trick, take a player on trial, splash it all over the papers and media and then pull out of a deal at last minute. We all know Whyte does not have money to buy players so why this awful charade to fool us Rangers fans? Wee Bud

Maybe, just maybe we didn't sign him because he is p**h.

What is everybody talking about Whyte for? He has done absolutely nothing wrong, he's the man who's came in and had to deal with this tax case from a previous owner. He's done nothing atall wrong and if a trialist isn't good enough then they're not good enough simple.

Before Whyte came in Rangers have had thousands of trialists Georgie Welcome before Whyte even came in scored a hattrick in his bounce game and wasn't signed. Why sign a player for the sake of it? Go back to the tims page, sados.

What the hell has whyte got to do with others recockning that a player adds nothing to what we have, on the Whyte scene it could be he is bad news for us, but until everything is squared away let us for now remember that he was the only suitor and think about the mess DM left us in.

03 Nov 2011 14:47:10
Anyone else see in the scottish sun Templeton has been offered to Gers already for 500k because Romanov is trying to flog all his highest paid players ? One of the brightest young talents in the SPL would take him in the blink of an eye.
When he gets the ball against either old firm he 9 times out of 10 makes you worry.

Wonder why he has been offered to Rangers directly. Maybe Ally had a wee sniff in the summer. Would love to see him with the Gers. A crackin wee player who can turn a game in an instant. Dont giva a S - - T if he supported the famous Green and Grey hoops when he was a boy. We all did stupid things when we were weans. Get him signed Ally.

03 Nov 2011 11:50:26
I think the important thing for rangers to continue to be a top club has got to start at Murray park with the kids, we can't afford to keep letting these kids with potential getting wasted. For example we have players like healy, broadfoot, ortiz. Guys on probually near £10k a week on the bench when we could have young exciting, hungry players. We have got to focus on better coaching methods to make ourselfs self efficient on players and don't need to spend millions and millions on duds. I also refer to barcalona because they are a prime example of the way a football club should be... Successful with home growing players. I'm not silly and I know we maybe don't have the same standard of player in Scotland than they do in spain but why can't we? It's got to start at the coaching of these guys at a very young age and this is the only way I see us able to compete again on a European stage but it will take time and I don't think it will happen but something needs to change or scottish football and rangers are going to fade into the shaddow..... {Ed001's Note - the top coaches go to Scotland to get their badges, so there really is no excuse for Scottish football to suffer from poor coaching!}

Ed, Top Coaches coming to Scotland doesn't affect the grass roots level. There needs to be a fresh at schools

Look at holland as the number one Prime example. Different weighted balls for different age groups, Focus on touch and passing, Education on how to look after your body and maintain phisique, all tied in with their normal school curriculum

Then look at Scotland, Run round cones, Focus on stamina (At age 10 WTF), and if your too wee, you'll be on the bench. Coaches and parents abusing officials and opposition players. I have witnessed police escorts at games for an Under 12's game

There is nothing in place in schools to develop kids, on a large scale using sport of any kind. it is viewed as a treat rather than education and opportunity. A huge change within education and Scottish Government has to happen if we want to have successful athletes be it football, athletics, rugby whatever.

You can't say, cause guardiola/Mourinho or whoever got a Grade 1 Coaching badge in scotland that there shouldn't be an issue with coaching. Thats mental

Rikkisixx {Ed001's Note - yes I can, because clearly Scotland has the facilities necessary to produce top coaches. So the issue is down to the SFA, they are clearly not doing enough to make sure that coaches are learning the right things to pass on to the players that they coach.}

Want to know what the problem is these days kids sit around in there room all day playing fifa and football manager instead of going out and having a good old game a football when was the last time yous seen kids out in the park playing football these days never because they sit about eating chocolate and crisps and playing there computer all day they cant be bothered anymore

I agree with the above post, our kids are tought the wrong way. In Scotland they are tought "if in doubt get it out" in Spain the saying is "if in doubt play the ball" major difference. We play with no confidence

Clearly Scotland has the Facilities?

Sorry but maybe you should take a wee survey of Primary, Secondary schools and glasgow, and then work out if all these schools are catered for by enough Staff, Facilities and council support.

You point was coaches come here for a qualification so that proves we have the facilities. The original Posters point was coaching methods aimed at grass roots, as was mine, and if you think there is even close to adaquate support for todays youth in terms of staff/coaches and opportunities to develop in sport, from the ages of 5-16 (without paying for private tutoring/coaching) then you are are missing the point

I have coached in 3 countries Scotland, USA and Germany. Germany has the best way of doing things out of the 3. Scotland does not have the right method and the coaches are not that good. I went thru the system myself and some of the coaches were just okay. When I look back it is clear there are issues in getting kids off the street. I played with some of the best kids when I was between 14-18 winning Scottish cups etc and half my team were out their face on drugs and drink at the weekends. There needs to be a residential school for football players at each club to get them away from friends who get them into bad habits and also to get them working on the right things. It will not happen for ages until one club puts the funds in and gets the rewards. Murray park is decent but still not up to scratch and we could be doing much more with the young kids. Can you imagin what the 3-4 mil spent on healy, beattie and velichca (bad spelling), would have bought in terms of setting something so simple up? Fat boy Fleck would not be in the situation he is now.

GB

I coach at youth level and have done for a number of years.
The problem isn't with the talent, but the piss poor facilities we have.
We have only been able to play 3 league matches this season (since August) due to the weather and as a result of that many of our boys have drifted away.
It will never change due to budgetary constraints being placed on Councils.
We are doomed.

The problem is leisure centres and sports complex's charging over the odds for young children to play football. Why charge the youth of scotland to play football. The SFA should set a program that lets young kids play in sports comlexes and leisure centres for free.

If kids play for free then more kids will join in.

I used to play football in tollcross park every day when I was younger, nowadays the greenkeepers are chasing the youngsters away for fear of damage to the green. Hardly see any youngsters kickin a ball about in there now...

Glasgow Green sports complex for example. Great facilities, but do they really need to charge the younger generation to use them?

Free football for youngsters = more participants.

Thats what I think. It has nothing to do with coaching

TonyTheGer

We don't have enough facilities for young kis to play on. In my town there is two football pitches and one of them you have to pay £20 to play for 1 hour on it and the other pitch is full of mud and the goals don't even have nets.

I think theres too much of a drink/drugs culture in scotland and as a small nation we can't really afford to have this AND produce world class players. Every once in a while a player may come along who's 100% focused on football and wont be stupid and drink... that player will be snapped up by a premiership team at the age of 15 as scottish teams don't have the determination or finances to keep a hold of them.. Muzz

This actually develops a great discussion, everyone (Except Ed001) seems to know that there is definitely a problem with youngsters and the lack of Coaching and Facilities for them,

I can't blame computer games as that didn't affect me.....but I did have places and facilities to use, maybe the kids that stay in and play fifa don't have the facilities.
Toryglen is an example of a great facility but is expected to cover the whole of the south side of glasgow.....
Every community should have a sports ground as should every school... but this all falls to budgets....

Maybe that should be the Councils "Legacy" for the commonwealth games, regenaration of Greenspaces within communities with the Profits made from TV and Sponsorship and maybe, just maybe, by World Cup 2030 Scotland will have a team reprensenting us....well... as long as Team GB doesn't get its way ;)

Just a Thought, better than throwing £6 billion at a motorway {Ed001's Note - there are the facilities to produce top players, that is clear, a lot of money has been spent to improve them. The problem is in how they are utilised. I am sorry but Brazil, Argentina and Uruguay do not have the facilities that Scotland have and they manage ok. You are spoilt and expect to have it all handed to you on a plate, that is where most of the problem lies with youngsters these days.}

What some people are forgetting is Scotland only has a population of 5 million. London itself has a larger population than Scotland.

Countries with lesser populations are very unlikely to succeed unlike your Brazils, Argentinas and Englands.

We can all blame this and that but at the end of the day there is just lack of interest now, it's as simple as that.

TonyThe Ger

I don't think That is true Ed, I think in a country Such as Brazil (Population 192 Million, Scotland 5 Milliion), Argentina (40 million, Scotland 5) or Uruguay (Don't know why were using them as an example) where kids are allowed to Play football on the streets or the beach aren't comparable to scotland for many reasons, social, Economical, and as i have pointed out The population is far greater (more people = More Footballers).
In Scotland you cannot play football on the streets, either because of vast traffic or the neighbours constantly moaning and complaining, or as mentioned earlier, Greenspaces that are littered with "No Ball games" signs.
Facilities Don't produce players....they don't come off of convayor belts. They are grown and nutured over 10 or so years..Then once a kid is picked up by a team they develop further mainly physically. why cant we develop kids at the youngest age in terms of Learning about the game, touch, passing, working as a team...or even getting them to study players off-the-ball movements (LIKE EVERY OTHER F*CKIN DEVELOPED COUNTRY IN EUROPE)

Building Glasgow Green or Toryglen doesn't guarentee a fantastic never ending supply of young footballers. New Coaching...More opportunities in the community by using Greenspaces....It just provides the council with more money to build "No Ball Games" signs

I still don't think you see my point. A better and consistant way of coaching kids from 5-6 onwards across all schools, mixed with more places to play without fear of getting hit by a car, or chased by a neighbour/greenkeeper may actually provide us with the next Dalgliesh, Baxter, Souness, Jinky....If we stay where we are, we will be forever wondering why we keep developing Caldwells

You seem to be not wanting to listen to anyones ways of thinking, or contribute, or even constructively criticise. Your answer is "You are Spoilt" doesn't work as kids DO want to work on being a footballer...you know why, because its about 80% of all Young Glasweigan males ambition...If you give them the opportunity they will work at it, Its actually quite sad that you have so much little faith in Kids of today.

I am not wanting an arguement, I am wanting a discusion outwith the usual b*llocks you get about HMRC, Craig WHyte or Timolloy...

Its actually a discussion that can unite both forums

Rikksixx {Ed001's Note - actually Uruguay has a smaller population than Scotland (below 4 million) and has a lot less poverty than Brazil or Argentina, hence why I included them. I could also have included Chile.}

I agree with you Tony The Ger....But am a Dreamer lol ;)

Fair Enough, but how good can the south american leagues be outwith Argentina and Brazil. I wouldn't call Uruguay league successful and something that Scotland should be aiming for, however, Holland generate quality players every season....The Holland set up should certainly be in our grasp....They have facilities in almost every town just next to school grounds that are comparable to the old 50 pitches, Queens Park Rex or the old Toryglen. And an education system that ties Football and education together.....and the smoke dope (Where do they find the time)

But seriously, You think I think it should all be done for me, but these things begin with an interesting topic/discussion like this involving all fans, then it develops into some small actions and then bigger ones.
It is a kinda Scottish Mentality to knock radical thinking on the head nowadays, but why not be positive and ask why cant we do something as simple as making sure kids have a place to play sports, and get the right coaching and develpment at school.

Rikkisixx

My young lad plays pro youth at the Falkirk academy get yourself down there And I will tell you that there is great potential in the Scottish game we played rangers a few weeks a go and I was impressed with the young Gers team Alan kerrnigan is doing a great job. It's not all doom and gloom down at Falkirk they do more ball work than running. Then again what's wrong with youth football that's it getting a middle class game not a working mans game because a lot of parents can't afford to travel and buy expensive training gear am in a good enough job and I struggle to fill my car with fuel as am taking my car 4 times a week I would urge the government to get better and cheaper facilities so every body can play the game. There is great Scottish talent out there

I think the above comment made the main point, it has to get cheaper. Its all well in good improving tbe facilitys but you then have to pay more to use them. I live in Livingston and just behind me the high school had 3 11's grass pitches that they used for the school team but they got 2 all weather 11's pitches installed that they hire out all week and sold the grass pitches to housing developers and now there is nowhere for the kids to play football, and I'm sure the parents won't shell out £45 for them to have a kick about for an hour.
dmrangers

Think i will put my input into this. I am 17 YO and from my own experiances i blame the lack of interest in football nowadays. My school team cant enter a league and we play around 3 or 4 games a season because we dont have enough boys interested in playing. Also There is a very little number of places to play football now. even open areas of grass are hard to come by, so this is why a lot of boys dont want to play because they simply cant. And on another point, i know a couple boys who have played for teams like Inverness Caley at youth level but as they progress threw the ages, they stop concentrating on touches and passing and more on stamina and strength and so the game turns into a game of who is stronger. Personally i would love to see Football be added into school curiculums. Then maybe i might be able to get an 'A'.

My friend did his coaching badges and started from ground level ie how to teach first touch, dribble to 5-6 year olds. if an ex pro goes for his badge he goes straight to a higher level and is never shown how to develop the young children. Example used was bomber at rangers. just thought i would add my tupins worth

badboybob

03 Nov 2011 10:55:25
How you all doing this morning bears.

I got tickets in for the Dundee united game this morning and it says they are restricted view. They are in the enclosure, sw3 row t. Does anyone sit he or has anyone sat there before, is it a bad view. Never sat there before

Ive got tickets too thanks to Rangers donating some to the RAF as part of tickets for troops which they regularly support. We will be on the park at half time for a photo and show thanks to the rest of the Rangers fans and Dundee fans.
Glad to see the champions taking part unlike the other side of Glasgow.

Always support for the british armed forces at ibrox stadium have a great day and enjoy what will be a very warm welcome rtid

I think you might have one of the pillars in front of you. If you go to the Rangers website and look at the stadium map, they have taken photos from each area to show the view you get.

GovanFR

Cheers

It may just mean you cant see right into the corner of pitch so you need to stand up for corners

There's not such thing as a bad view when you're at Ibrox, it's the place to be. Absolutely beautiful stadium and the view might not be the best but i'm sure you'll see all 5 of Rangers' goals ;). WATP.

03 Nov 2011 09:40:57
The Sun reporting David Templeton has been offered to the Champions for £500k, Absolute Bargain if it turns our to be true, boy is a great talent and usually rips Whittaker to shreds when we play Hearts

I would rip whittaker to bits he is rank rotten

I would take him just so that the boy does not get charged with 8'pe every time he meets What?aker ! but, i just can't see it happening bears.

If we don't take him celtic will - i think we've GOT to take this deal. Think we could put him on the left and keep wylde on the right and we'd have fantastic pace on both flanks. Muzz

If we get him for that and Weiss for free we wil be deadly in attack

03 Nov 2011 06:23:36
A nice wee poem for Ma fellow bears to start the morning off!

A guy called Lennon had so much to say,
Stating this is just the beginning we will have our day,
He promised the fans, to play the septic way, attacking style football like Barca play,
He rallied the crowd & set out his stall, but by f***, how the ginger chap did fall,
We're 13 games in & 12 points clear, so much for having nothing to fear!!
We may have issues, with cash-flow & tax,
But we play for the jersey we wear on our backs,
For We Are The Rangers, Scotlands premier team,
Founded by 4 boys, who once had a dream.
They had no money, no kit or a ball, but they still carried on, and The Rangers were born,
54 Titles, and we're still going strong,
WE WELCOME THE CHASE !!

Haw

The chase from who:

So far it's between Motherwell & Celtic, then the chase of the tax man, then you need to chase whyte when he turns rangers over, then it's a race between hearts & rangers to see how will go burst 1st lol

Heard its goin to be a 10 team spl next year without rangers & hearts as the two of them will be burst lol

Lenny

Your lot might finish second if that haooens

Spoken like a true poet...

03 Nov 2011 05:32:27
High-earning taxpayers who have avoided or deferred tax and national insurance contributions through the use of Employee Benefit Trust (EBT) arrangements are the latest targets of the taxman, following the announcement by HM Revenue & Customs (HMRC) of a new EBT settlement opportunity on this type of tax planning.

With the hole in the public finances still to be plugged, the Government is on a quest to bring in extra funds by cracking down on those who seek to minimise their tax liabilities.

My previous blog posts have discussed some of the tactics that HMRC has employed in bringing non-compliant taxpayers in from the cold, such as the LDF, Plumbers Tax Safe Plan, targeting of High Net Worth individuals and, more recently, a project to tackle tax evasion in the restaurant trade.

The EBT settlement opportunity
For its challenge to EBTs, however, HMRC has taken a different approach, and is offering a negotiated settlement opportunity for those with an open enquiry into their arrangements. Businesses currently subject to an HMRC enquiry into their EBT arrangements can expect a letter from HMRC before the end of August, inviting them to enter discussions about reaching a settlement.

Get closure without going to court
So what is HMRC hoping to achieve with this initiative? Put simply, it wants to avoid costly litigation at a time when the department’s budget is tight. Similarly, for taxpayers keen to obtain closure, the opportunity to avoid the cost and inconvenience of litigation could be the carrot that encourages them to engage with this new settlement opportunity. The problem for HMRC, however, is that many taxpayers who have used EBTs will not regard themselves as having done anything wrong, and instead see themselves as having used legitimate planning to mitigate their tax liabilities.

It’s not a tax amnesty
It is important to note that this is neither an amnesty nor a ‘one-size fits all’ attempt to settle open enquiries and HMRC has made it clear that each case will be settled on the basis of its individual facts. It has, however, stated that steps have been taken to ensure that a consistent approach is taken in agreeing settlements. Settlements will be reached in respect to all duties, and HMRC has made clear its view that any sub-trusts are relevant trusts for inheritance tax (IHT) purposes, and potentially liable to the 10-year and exit charges provisions.

What happens if you ignore the offer?
So what are the dangers of ignoring HMRC’s offer? For those unable to reach a negotiated agreement, or who do not wish to take part in the EBT settlement opportunity, HMRC has made clear that its cases will be subject to a full enquiry and progressed in accordance with the department’s Litigation and Settlement Strategy (LSS) [PDF].

The LSS always gave HMRC a remit to seek an agreed settlement but it also advised on an ‘all or nothing approach’ and most tax inspectors would be reluctant to opt for ‘nothing’, hence a backlog of cases awaiting court litigation.

While there is no official deadline for this opportunity, HMRC has stated that if employers or companies have not responded to the incentive by 31 December 2011, it will be assumed that they have no interest in taking part and will progress enquiries formally with the probability of court litigation.

Making EBTs less desirable
The use of trusts by employers without operating PAYE has been an issue for HMRC for many years. The case of Dextra Accessories Limited vs Macdonald (HMIT), for example, initially found in favour of the taxpayer in 2002 but ultimately the House of Lords decided for HMRC. This has not stopped the use of EBTs and HMRC is clearly keen to make them as unattractive as possible.

Warning of more employment remuneration targets
This settlement opportunity is part of a wider programme by the Government to target the use of trusts and other tools to avoid or defer tax on employment remuneration. In his Emergency Budget of 22 June 2010, Chancellor George Osborne announced that new legislation would be introduced to combat this ‘disguised remuneration’ and draft legislation published on 9 December 2010 introduced a new charge, triggered when a third party makes a provision, or earmarks, a reward linked to an individual’s employment.

03 Nov 2011 01:02:52
Can't stand all the fans who badmouth Boyd! Say what you want about him but you simply can't argue with 30 goals a season! Were you moaning when the league was coming down to goal difference? All those goals against "pishy teams" seemed to be important then.

Boyd was given a contract and served it then moved on. What about players who come on 3 year deals and are out the door after a year?

I'll take Boydy and his goals back any day of the week with open arms!

Rossco Cyprus bear

Fat waste of space.... rather have a 33-year old Kenny Miller back

Fat waste of space? You clearly haven't seen him lately!
Dmrangers

Money Grabber!!! Doesn't give a f**k about the Rangers

If you were offered 2-3 times your wages to go and work for another company what would you do? He is on 40 grand per week, we were paying him about 14 per week. Nothing to do with not wanting to play for the gers and I don't blame anyone for taking the money if we cant pay up for league winning players.

My issue with Boyd is not that he left. Good luck to him.

His problem in my opinion is he was lazy and arrogant. He was (allegedly) not interested in improving his game. He thought scoring goals was enough. He didn't want to do more.

He wasn't good enough to think of himself that highly! Take Charlie Adam. He would stay on and do training with free kicks every day in his own time, he ends up at Liverpool. Boyd does the minimum necessary and ends up championship!

Bluegenius

Going back to Boyd would have been very bad. Teams and players sometimes have to move on from each other as teams change. Boyd wouldn't fit int this side. We need new players who are new to the club with a point to prove.

03 Nov 2011 00:24:35
Rikkisixx m8 nae offence intended but di canio & fergie was a different game so this confused me the goal we scored that game was another calamity for the manks this added 2 my confusion & further 2 this there was no fight as if there was facist di canio would still be lying on his arse fergie would have kicked s**te oot of him
NTYABOW

Fair do's buddy,

Still an awesome period for Auld firm games ;)