Rangers Banter Archive October 03 2017

03 Oct 2017 17:56:23
I think some are being very short sighted. You are forgetting about who may be at the world cup next year. If say Morelos, Pena, Herrara, Hodson, Jack, Dorrans, Candeas, Bruno, Wallace could all be playing out of their skins to get picked for the squads. If so and actually play and play well in the tournament I would imagine their values would go up. This would also put Rangers back on the world stage to some extent. This business model is the only way forward, no Scottish manager would be able to attract any foreign talent without a huge war chest. I agree some in the end might not fit the Scottish game however that does not make these guys bad players, they would thrive in more technical league, like Spain or Italy. We will make profit in all of the players no matter what. Where is the benefit in stumbling along with all Scottish players and being second to Celtic all the time we would be no better than Aberdeen. We have a management team that have contacts far and wide, this is why we employed Pedro and team + Johanssen. It goes like this - Get players in, make a profit, get better players in, start winning everything, sell some, make a bigger profit, champions league, get even better players and keep them or sell at huge profit. At that point we will have a sustainable model that will put as and keep us at the top, Mcinness could never do that in a month of Sundays, he can't even speak a foreign language . Being negative only helps our haters. Keep the faith guys and gals, and don't read papers.

03 Oct 2017 18:43:26
It's sounds good but will never happen. not a chance mate

03 Oct 2017 21:14:01
TJBB

Welcome to fantasy island

03 Oct 2017 22:50:13
Candeias pena herrera have no chance.

04 Oct 2017 00:47:07
Tell us why not, Delboy.

04 Oct 2017 07:09:28
No chance as they are rubbish. Scotland have better players then them enough said

03 Oct 2017 13:43:56
Like it or hate it pedro is going to be in charge for the next months so instead if trying to get him sacked or slate him every chance Yous get why not just get behind the guy untill he is no longer the rangers manager.
The guy has for me anyway improves our team massively from last season.
Would you rather cardoso and alves? Or should we bring back the keirnans and waghorns?

#imbackingpedro.

03 Oct 2017 13:54:47
Thats like asking if you would rather have pish or shite when you compare cardoso and kiernan.

03 Oct 2017 14:04:33
It's like have a better player than the last one.
If you can't see the difference then thank **** your not the manager

03 Oct 2017 16:26:12
That's an appalling statement - you aren't honestly expecting people who pay hundreds of pounds to back vocally someone that they honestly believe shouldn't be assistant manager at a club our size, let alone manager, making our club a laughing stock with his touchline bust ups, anecdotes and transfer strategy?

If the fans don't like him, why shouldn't they be able to voice their concerns on here?
I have yet to hear him being jeered or ridiculed in the stadium.

03 Oct 2017 18:11:55
Trueger just because a player is better than kiernan or last seasons clowns doesn't make them a good player ya muppet.

03 Oct 2017 18:36:24
I'm not saying there good players
If you actually knew the point I'm making you would know that I'm saying good or bad players it don't matter. There out player. So support them.

03 Oct 2017 18:46:13
coldo, he didn't say he was good, he said he was an improvement, i think you just agreed to that

03 Oct 2017 20:01:21
Geesadodothat he said the team has improved massively, the team hasn't improved massively. We are still struggling and I never agreed on anything, I said just because a player is better than kiernan ( his theory, not mine) doesn't make them a good player. To improve the team massively (his words) then logic dictates that the players must be good? The team has not improved massively as we continue to struggle against the same teams we struggled against last year, thus concluding with the exception of a few that the new players are shite. Or is it pedro who is not upto the job? Its both by the way, incase you were struggling to work that out.

03 Oct 2017 23:27:42
I would love to see these improvements? can't win more than. 2 games in a row! since pedro came in the only decent result we have had is Aberdeen last season 3.0 with warburtons team that allegedly we can’t judge him on? so where is the improvement trueger?

02 Oct 2017 22:58:43
fod the prod, will u ever come on here before we win the league and say something positive or are u so blue eyed that only a win over celtic and a league title would make u say something nice.
let me ask u then fodtheprod, who should we bring in and who do u think would give us what we need .

so that's manager his staff and new signings needed as well as having to pay off ped and his staff, exactly where is the money tpo come from.

doesnt matter what u say as there is no more money we can't aford a sinclaire and wqe can afford to do what u want so all u are doing is putting out a negative comment after negative comment its tiresome.

03 Oct 2017 00:23:03
Get mcinnes, bring in moult walker mclean shinnie and a cb, get shot of pena herrera cardoso dalcio. That would give us a bit of dig and fight in the team. Build from there. that's what we should have done instead of ped and the banditos, would have cost half what ped spent. So peds11 are you happy to just drag on because we can't afford to sack ped? Who said we can't afford to sack ped? Or is that just more pish you are talking ped11

03 Oct 2017 00:46:42
Tony pulis!

03 Oct 2017 05:58:23
Look pedz I will be happy when we can win a string of matches in a row, when we look hungry and fully fit and when the players don't look lost. I've said a million times that I don't expect miracles but what I do expect is a rangers team who are performing at a high standard, at the end of the day that 10 million came out our pockets.

03 Oct 2017 06:01:16
I'm most certainly with peds11 on this one! To coldo out there, IF pedro caixinha were to go, we would have to bring in imo, a much better manager/ head coach than derek mcinnes, my friend! A manager that could take on brendan rodgers! This continual hype about mcinnes becoming our saviour, does my nut in, honestly! He's a decent manager but wouldn't lay a glove on brendan rodgers over in the eastend! We would need MUCH better than delboy, i'm afraid coldo! Someone who has got pedigree and done the business with teams he's managed! For example sam allardyce, harry redknapp, chris coleman, as jason brown said, tony pulis, michael o'neill, billy davies etc!

03 Oct 2017 07:42:34
We definitely need someone decent on the left wing now but we need to strengthen other areas of the squad in January but I am not sure we have the money.

03 Oct 2017 10:17:37
Billy davies, stop it coop you're killing me😂😂😂

03 Oct 2017 10:25:09
Walter smith came from dundee utd, alex mcleish came from hibs, they done ok if my memory serves me right. Why does it have to be a big name? Supercoop you don't half talk shoite mate.

03 Oct 2017 10:46:11
If it has to be a big name as you say, then by your own theory you admit ped was the wrong appointment to begin with as he isn't a big name. 🤔😩🔫

03 Oct 2017 10:33:15
Deep down i don't think Pedros the man to take us forward but while he's still at the helm the least we can do is show him and the team our full support or we've no chance of any sort of success. also i value all my fellow Bears opinions and it doesn't make you's any less of a fan if you's don't think Pedros the man but all i ask is while he's here we support him.

03 Oct 2017 10:43:10
i have to say we look a better side than last season and that's all we can ask for the now.

next season we will be challenging but need to stick with pedro as he has a vision.

yes not all of his signings are good but the majority are and that's all we can ask for on a shoestring budget.

03 Oct 2017 11:23:18
Shoe string budget, we spent 8mil. And it wouldn't be hard to have a better team than last year, doesn't mean we going in the right direction. We spent 8mil and we are struggling. that's fact.

03 Oct 2017 11:27:54
Mcinnes is on a shoe string budget and he's joint top of the league😳 #justsaying👍

03 Oct 2017 11:30:09
To peds we not any better than last season only signings that have improved squad are dormers and Jack. alves ok when fit but he is not player for future. buffalo inconsistent and when penna plays like playing with 10 men as he crap. we will win nothing this season and prob finish 4th or 5th in league so if that progress for you that ok

03 Oct 2017 11:46:32
I hear a lot of hype about how much money we have spent but 8 million on 7 players is not a lot of cash yes it is to a club struggling with money but you don't get much footballer for a million these days much as I hate to say it I agree with Davy provan when he said 8 million gets you a mediocre English championship player so I think we have done well with a couple of our buys.

03 Oct 2017 12:21:15
So pena and herrera are worth the 5mil we paid because as you say you don't get much for your money these days? Why feeking spend it then! We should have promoted the youth rather than spend millions when we know we will just get a piss poor player because as you say piss poor players are valued at over a mil. Do people actually read what they write before posting.

03 Oct 2017 14:10:25
who shat in your weetabix this morning coldo mate? every single post with an angry reply.

03 Oct 2017 18:18:42
The shite on here snell, people defend the fact that we spent 8mil and we are struggling. Its not good enough, yet we get all sorts of pathetic excuses on here.

03 Oct 2017 18:38:54
I have to agree with SG34.

My heart wants Pedro to do well but my head tells me a different story. I want him to do well but I also understand where people are coming from saying they don't like him.

I also think the support at the games has been great as well (although I do wish we would stop all the silly songs) .

03 Oct 2017 23:34:19
Am with you coldo I can’t believe some of the posts on here! pedro is not the answer and never will be and just for the record cooper11 neither will billy Davies u must be related to keep bringing his name up a would rather keep Pedro and that’s saying something! billy Davies is arrogant and has a history of falling out with chairmen our club is struggling enough without having him to bring us down further

04 Oct 2017 00:31:35
Derek Mcinnes has spent 350k in 4 and a half year which is good going when u look how well Aberdeen have done.

04 Oct 2017 00:34:54
coldo mate listen aberdeen have a settled squad that's been in the making for a good few years so naw 8 million isn't enough to build an entire first team squad and challange for the title first time of asking.
you need a check up fae the neck up if u think that's how easy it is to be better than the rest.

ped has done well with very ;little money especially since the bulk of it went on two guys who didn't work out.

that happens everywher at any club a player comes in and doesn't live up to his hype/ potential.

stop being unrealistic about what we should get for 8 mill when realistically 1 decent lb from the championship would cost that.

04 Oct 2017 02:19:07
Coldo what I was trying to say was in years gone by 1 million was the benchmark for a certain quality of player and now you can spend much more than that for far inferior product hence with our 8 million its been a bit hit and miss.

04 Oct 2017 09:14:14
Peds stop the excuses, aberdeen haven't spent 8mil in the last 10years. Settled squad is a pathetic excuse. Take the blue specs off👍

04 Oct 2017 09:18:30
So what's the point in spending the money if we know that we can only buy crap? What a load of pish. So you're saying that its acceptable to spend 3mil on pena because you can't expect much of a player for 3mil these days? Larkyinoz are you serious?

04 Oct 2017 09:22:33
Peds, you say that ped done well with very little money considering the bulk of it went on two guys who didn't work out. Can't you see what you've just done there? #contradiction. Literally buckled 😂

04 Oct 2017 09:39:39
peds, "ped has done well with very ;little money especially since the bulk of it went on two guys who didn't work out. " explain to me how this is doing well with the money he spent.

04 Oct 2017 11:08:37
What I am saying coldo is no matter how much you spend on a player you are always taking a gamble on whether he will perform or not, take Ross McCormack as an example Aston villa paid over 14 million for him last year and so far he has been on. loan at forest and did very little and now he's on loan to Melbourne city in Australia doesn't look like villa is getting any value so far.

04 Oct 2017 12:07:10
Larky the 8mil was very badly spent and the manager must take the responsibility for that. Just because you spend 1mil doesn't mean the player will be crap because that's the going rate these days. Its not a gamble if you do your homework. Now for the 5mil we spent on the two mexicans we could have went for moult walker shinnie mclean which would not be the gamble you speak of. These 4 are very good proven players in our league and would improve the quality and fight in our team and we would be in a much better position as a team.

05 Oct 2017 05:50:57
Yes I agree coldo Pedro underestimated the quality of the available players in the spfl and gambled on pena when we couldn't afford to gamble plus he thought Herrera was good enough for our league which to be honest he still has to prove.